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but the biggest beef i have with the HUMAN polls, is why is OSU ranked so high??
we're human voters. were supposed to have the logical approach.
OSU has been embarrassed TWICE in the national spotlight, but yet, we rank them #2 because "theyre out to prove everyone wrong????"
OSU is a complete joke, and have NO business being in the top 5.
if they beat USC, then we can talk.
I think anyone that watched Sanchez play last year, and realizes that this team is capable of such spectacular mental lapses such as Stanford last year, could honestly say that a kid with a bum knee injury and that track record is going to pilot the Trojans to a Top 10 finish...
I sincerely believe they're going to underwhelm a lot of folks, but the media has set the winner of that USC/OSU game up as a national title contender simply by ranking them that highly...
Neither one is as good as advertised...
In fact most of the time they win.
if USC makes it to the title game, which, barring a mental lapse, could very well happen, could you see them getting blown out in the fashion that OSU does every year??
me neither.
I am going to have to disagree with Penn state, Alabama and Pittsbugh in the top 25.
Missouri is still IMO too high. Better poll than the USA today if closeness to my ideas are is being measured. I Like BYU at #16. Actually I like a MWC team at #2. Would rather it be Utah, TCU or anyone other than BYU.
TCU might end up in the picture as well.
I honestly feel many polsters are holding back on both Utah and Michigan, waiting to see the results of that opener. Same for Fresno and Rutgers.
Seems kind of odd that they could be ranked lower then Georgia and LSU.
Either way i give little thought to preseason polls.
Georgia returns the fewest total starts along their offensive line in the entire conference after losing Sturdivant...Just 25 games between the two guys from last year...
Their hopes for a national title are not going to make it out of Baton Rouge...Period.
As for Auburn...It's going to be a war in Jordan Hare, there's no doubting that...But I like LSU against AU...New QB, no offense, no experience, new DC, and NO secondary...It's tough but very doable...
it looks like Tubby's "high-character" recruits are causing brawls all over the field.
this is the 72nd fight, and 3rd major loss due to a fight.
What are the other two "major losses" to the team that you speak of?
J. Powers is the only one that I know of. D Furr is not what I would call a major loss only made it one day in practice, ran his mouth off got a LITTLE bet down and left tyhe team because he couldn't deal.
not to mention Antonio Coleman suffered a cervical sprain keeping him out of practice.
and to comment on the arrests:
obviously when you walk into a new group of players and you law down a strict code of conduct, some players won't abide by it.
they then distance themselves from the program and get arrested.
and you say well above 12??
Jimmy Johns, a walk-on, and Rashad Johnson are the only ones i can think of. and Rashad Johnson, after viewing the tape, was found innocent.
so... i dont get it.
and i think all of the bad apples are out now.
And didn't Alabama have like 15 or 16 arrests in like 11 months. Can't remember the exact number now but that's what I call "character" in a program.
Simon Castille is one more that I can think of.
Any way fights on the practice field happen everywhere even in T-town that can mean that the boys are just ready to hit someone( on the field that is)
A fan of the program can't really talk about "high-character" with guys like Julio "I knew the drug dealer, and the murdered person, and I was in the drug dealer murderer's car when he shot the murdered pereson, but I didn't know what was going on" Jones, and Jimmy "Crack" Corn Johns...
Just a friendly reminder, there, guy...
Julio Jones has never been arrested and didn't commit any crimes.
he was just asked to testify against his uncle.
dont hate on him just because he's straight from the hood.
hell, Adrian Peterson's dad is in jail. it says nothing about his character.
oh, and BTW, Julio Jones has officially won the #1 WR spot in fall camp.
in the last scrimmage he caught 5 passes, 125 yds., and a TD.
loook out!!
The quarterback was sacked on 10% of the plays, by the way...
Oh, and believe me, outside of DJ Hall, you don't have much at WR to begin with, so congrats that the #1 "playah" in America coming out of HS won the starting WR job...
Better hope he does a better job getting pressed at the line than he did against our second string corner Phelon Jones when they played each other in High School, or, better yet, when he got SHUT DOWN in the HS All-Star games...
The difference between LSU & Alabama:
At Alabama, it takes one scrimmage, 90 plays, and a sorry secondary to help the best player in America out of HS to win a starting WR job.
At LSU, the best corner in the nation has moved all the way up to...SECOND STRING...
Talent, developmenet, and scheme...You can't have 1/3 and compete, BC...
Heck, some of mine have been...and I've got a decade + 1 on GrasshopperBleedCrimson
I like BC he makes me feel young and fiesty. And im probably older then his Dad.
that was heresay.
but either way, its not good to have that spreading on the recruiting trail.
Or sort've like the fact that your team's almost got a DOUBLE DIGIT LEAD in the Fulmer Cup?
Or the fact that your player's get arrested for selling the blowcaine ON CAMPUS in the parking lot of the Bayyyyahhhur's own Stadium?
Holy Houndstooth, BC! Definitely don't want the kids reading that stuff...Unless the kid is Julio Jones...Shoot...Crack dealers, undercover stings, murder, capital murder trials? That sounds like JUST the place Julio needs to fit in!
Have been reading here on Fanblogs for some time now only posting every now and then. But of everybody on here You and WEA have to be my favorites. Even if I don't agree with you I almost always find the humor in your posts. Thanks
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Your right about one thing, this offense is unproven ,however it wouldnt take much to improve on our 108th ranking of a year ago.
We do return 10 guys that started games last year on offense,only new face is the QB. Well 10 since we dont use a full back anymore.
The secondary is thin but once again all the guys on the starting line up got a lot of playing time last year. Just no depth..
Hows your QB looking? I havent heard much about the Ivy leaguer
Really excited about this team, but the situation at that position is being handled a specific way for a specific reason...Rest assured, I love Les Miles...and I love Gary Crowton...They're easily the greatest offensive minds in this conference...
Some danged good recruiters, too...
Might see a few new wrinkles, or, should I say...a few less huddles...
:-)
I can't wait for Baylor/Wake Forest and South Carolina/NC State.
Bring on opening Thursday!
There is no pre-season in CFB and adjustments and rosters/ depth charts will change after week one. Some teams who may be favored will probably not try to show us too much, while others will be going all out,in order to prove themselves to all the doubters.
Seems like alot of teams on opening week, just look sloppy as hell and others completely dominate lesser opponents- like you , I cant wait either.
A lot of the early games are out of conference matchups and other than the Bowl games, its one of the only times we get to see these teams from other conferences against our regular opponents.
Sicem-Bears
Go Owls
Just tried to post in the "Mountain WAC" thread
got a disqus error.
notice: the term "Mountain WAC" is used with the permission of WEA
Houston is flat-UTEP is in the mountains
Take any team from MWC and put them in Big-12 south- sorry no 10 win seasons for any of them 6-6 would be phenominal, 4-8 more realistic
That argument has been beat to death. It does not need to be reopened.
This is a typical of my predictions when a top non-BCS team is put in a BCS conference.
Does anyone remember the last time it happened? Louisville won the Big East their first year.
OSU and Wisc were 10-1-1, so PSU ended up third, but 10 wins in the first season wasn't too bad.
Let's say you put the Utes in the Big12 South. Kids that wouldn't even consider going to Utah will now look at them differently.
Whittingham will have so much more ammunition to use on the recruiting trail, being in an elite conference.
I'd say 3 to 4 years before they will be considered a contender (by that I mean a 9 or 10 win season). As far as a big12 championship, I don't think so...It takes more than some talented kids to go that far.
maybe not.
Utes vs Oklahoma
Utes vs Colo
Utes vs Texas
Utes vs Texas Tech
Utes vs Missu
Utes vs Kansas
Utes vs Ok st
Ute vs Texas A&M
Now if you somehow get through that like Texas for example you have the CCG game a rematch if you will against Missu,KU, Neb or Colo
very difficult- this aint Wyoming,UNLV, Air force & TCU
This is the conference games you could subsitue Nebraska & KSU, IA St every two years with OCC play they could maybe win 6,7 or 8
OK, UT, TX, Toss-Up, MO, Toss-Up, Toss-Up, Toss-Up (I would favor the home team vs KS.)
So, that's 3 losses up front, the rest of which could go either way.
I said I would expect a 7-5 season, maybe 9-3 on a good year. how is this a 10 win season?
As for Utah in the Big 12 south:
Oklahoma and Texas are 2 losses.
Texas Tech, Texas A&M and Oklahoma State are close. 1.5 loses.
Baylor. Come on really?
3.5 loses times 5/6 because you only play 5 of them.
Divisional games:
Going by last year's results:
Missouri and Kansas are loses. 2 loses.
Colorado Kansas State and Nebraska are close, 1.5 loses.
Iowa State. come on really?
3.5 loses, times 3/6 for the number you play.
Add these together you get:
4.7 loses. Ok fine, 5 conference loses. 3-1 out of conference would give them a 6-6 record. On an average year.
That 2 game difference corresponds very well with the difference in ranking between teams from these conferences.
Not sure how a 12-0 Big 12 team would get 2 less losses in the MWC. Maybe they have a very large margin of victory each week?
Even though Baylor & Iowa State are at the bottom of the XII they would do real well in MWC or C-USA because the level of competition would be more on the same level with those programs. Teams like Baylor are better than their
3-9 record indicates because the level of competition is outrages.
I saw the TCU vs BU game last year and both teams looked really sloppy, Patterson did a better job in preperation than BU and BU was breaking in a new QB. I watched the TCU @ UT game and TCU looked alot better and played an outstanding first half, second half was all UT. I watched the UT @BU game in Waco and it was really close 17 to 10 in the fourth quarter BU has it in the red zone about to score and tie it up, kid is pressured in a hurry throws the Int and the UT man returns it the length of the feild TD. BU gets the ball back makes another long drive- boom same thing another int late UT. wins 31-10. I believe that if BU was in C-USA or WAC they would go bowling every year.
Iowa St was # 11 in the B-12 they beat Iowa & Colo not too shabby
When comparing conferences its very difficult to really predict with any certainty that a team from MWC for example would make any splash so to speak, but may be relagated towards the bottom.
ACC vs XII is interesting
FSU over Colo
TTech over UVA
KU over V Tech
Miami over Tex A&M
OU over Miami
I dont think that at this point that the ACC should be taken too lightly IMHO
Two of the biggest differences between BCS conference teams and the top non-BCS teams are quality depth and resources. Most BCS teams third string could hang half-a-hundred on the second string for a non-BCS. And one of the reasons is resources. Not only do the BCS out recruit the non-BCS, but they also have significantly better strength and conditioning programs to train their players.
You start to move that kind of advantage to a week-in, week-out schedule and it becomes a nearly insurmountable advantage. Generally, you are looking at 8-10 years for a significant rise.
Maybe Kevin can open them back up.
This was only posted yesterday!
Is it because the Fanblogs moderator was losing an argument about how bad the ACC is? If so, what a freaking wuss! Don't lock discussions because the ACC sucks in the future.
Of course, it probably would have been easier for me just to delete all these comments, no? Cmon dude. You know what they say about assumptions? That would apply here, dude.
Chill out or take a walk.
USA Today is coaches
AP sports writers
Lindy's magazine
Athlon magazine
Playboy
Sports Illustated
Dave Cambells
ESPN
Fox sports
and many more, perhaps only after the season starts will we have any idea as to who is closer with their predictions. I know last year I had one magazine with LSU on the cover guess somebody pegged it. This year I've got one with OU on the cover and one with Texas Tech on the cover- what the heck, in another part of the country its probably UGA .
Looking foward to the upcoming season
Based upon returning personnel, last year's results, and this year's schedule, Cinci, UConn, & S FL should be ranked arguably in that order. (Though personally, I would rank S FL higher than UConn.) Arguably, all should be ranked in the Top-30. Arguably, Pitt should be 5-1 over the 1st half of their schedule. Only if Pitt at least splits the 2nd half, including a win at ND, could I agree they too should be ranked Top-30.
Not that this is their fault, no one knows anything substantive about the 2008 season yet.
Ohio State (sadly) is probably worth their ranking this year - the last 2 years actually were supposed to be rebuilding years to begin with for the Buckeyes; now they have an experienced team.
Alabama is only in the Top 25 because of Saban, IMHO. If they beat Clemson in the first week, I will be happy to eat that, though, Tide fans...
I have no idea why Pittsburgh is #25; none whatsoever...
I mean putting Pitt ahead of...say California, Connecticut, or Boston College? If we're going on what they did last year....
LOL, but let's face it - chaos is why this sport is the best, isn't it?
And when they did win it was the ref's fault.
Must all be Miiiiiiichigan fans.
They have had some down years and have lost the media focus. For a team with the quality of Tennessee this could give them the freedom to relax and focus on winning the game at hand and not focus on the hype.
I'll vote them most likely to repeat Auburn 2004,
we don't want to mention your last two REAL games YOUR SCHOOL SCHEDULED outside your home state.
1. hmmm at virginia tech you got wacked in 2002.
2. and before that you actually have to go back to the reagan administration to see the previous time.
and you lost to the buckeyes in columbus.
congrats on posting your first win against the bucks in three chances and our worst team in the past 4 years.
since we can't hope to see you schedule somebody in the next 4 years... good luck with your toughest non-conference opponents
wait is that troy or a 1-aa team????