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  • Mr2Bits · 1 year ago
    Looks about right. Wonder if Florida will jump the #3 spot in the BCS?
  • david · 1 year ago
    alabama is the most conistent team in the country. the defense and offense will never give up and they all play together. nick saban will have them ready the next 2 games, and the scary part is alabama hasnt played their best game yet. either auburn or fla. is going to get a complete game out of bama, if not both of them and that is scary!!!! bama vs texas tech bcs title game, who would have called that one this year? coach saban is the best coach in the country whether you like it or not!!!!!
  • Zac · 1 year ago
    Dave, it's hard to argue with success, especially when the "W's" keep coming week after week after week.

    Now, one could point out Bama's weak non-conference schedule (W. KY, Tulane, AR St, & at Clemson - #9 at the time, but we've all seen what's happened since). One could point out only 5 away games in a 12 game season, one of which was to fading TN (before Fulmer got axed); another at LSU - a place where QB's serve up TD's to the opposing team at the rate of 1.5 times/game. One could even point out close wins at home against the likes of 6-5 KY & 6-4 Ole Miss. One could.

    To do that, one would also have to consider a solid win at GA. Not to mention, other than the Bull Dogs, no team has dropped more than 21 pts on the Tide, all year. So, I don't see where AL has gone unbeaten any differently than many unbeaten team which have come before them, including some of the Bear's teams.

    As for Nick Saban, I don't think anyone can argue; he's a good college coach. NFL aficionados wouldn't agree with your assessment, but he has still done well "THIS YEAR". Given his last 2 recruiting classes, it'll be interesting to see if he can keep it going. If only the next season could begin shortly after the last one ended… Well, I wanna see a play-offs, but I won't get my way there, either.
  • david · 1 year ago
    fla. is scary good but so is bamas defense. what a game that one will be
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Florida's defense is equally scary good as their offense is. That's the difference maker right there (their defense; plus special teams). Florida by 2 or 3 Touchdowns. Alabama also has no depth. They'll get tired.
  • david · 1 year ago
    roll tide everybody they just keep rolling and rolling and rolling, just like the energizer bunny!!!!
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    The energizer bunny is fixin' to get eaten up by an alligator, though!!!!!!!!!!! In the S.E.C Championship game, to be exact.
  • C-DOGG · 1 year ago
    Welcome back to the polls Miami....lets not blow it against G.Tech.

    Go Canes!!!
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    C-Dogg: Suit up with an avatar and a registration and join us in the locker room...
  • C-DOGG · 1 year ago
    WEA...
    after Disqus came along, I was lost. I'm just happy to be blogging here. I almost gave up during the transition...lol :o)
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    Well, at least get registered so your comments don't have to wait for approval.

    Looks like I'll be at Grant Field thursday night. Looks like I'll have to pull for the Techsters...
  • Zac · 1 year ago
    What'd the tickets run ya? (Ya bastage!)
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    Gratis! The best kind. My buddy writes the property insurance on Grant Field and gets them from the AD.

    Fun fact: How much does it cost GA Tech a year to insure their stadium against virtually all physical damage loss? About $450,000...
  • c-dogg · 1 year ago
    will do WEA......thanks
  • Horace Hill · 1 year ago
    WELL, Florida lost to Ole Miss, Texas Lost to Texas Tech on the last play of the game. Texas had a four game schedule of Oklahoma,Missouri,Oklahoma State ant then Texas Tech on the road in Lubbock. Other than Florida & and an over rated Alabama what does the SEC have to brag about. The only reason Alabama is # 1 is they are undefeated playing a medicore schedule and Florida has 1 loss playing the same type of schedule. Florida will kill Alabama in the SEC championship game which will no big deal. Alabama would lose to Missouri,Okla State, Oklahoma ,Texas & Texas Tech if they were in the Big 12. Don't talk about their defense because other than Florida there is no offense in the SEC.
  • Zac · 1 year ago
    Horace, are you and elgrandelobo the same guy, or just 2 kids who coppied off the same paper? Just curious. By the way, I think Bama would run out to a good lead against MO, then hold on for dear life, but still get the win. Games against the other 3 would likely be toss-ups. JMO.
  • elgrandelobo · 1 year ago
    Florida???, They lost to a medicore Ole Miss. Texas lost to Texas Tech in Lubbock on the last play of the game. They had just completed a schedule of Oklahoma,Missouri,Oklahoma State & then Texas Tech on the road all ranked in the top 10. The only reason Alabama is # 1 is because they are playing a medicore schedule. Other than Florida, what does the SEC have to brag about. Florida will kill Alabama in the SEC Championship game. If Alabama was in the Big 12 they would lose to Missouri,Oklahoma State,Oklahoma,Texas & Texas Tech. Don't tell me about their defense either, Florida is the only team in the SEC that has an offense. I would like to see Texas & Florida in the BCS Championship Game, would be a great game.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    you dream, texas is gonna miss out on the NC this year, and yes florida is alot better than Texas.
  • elgrandelobo · 1 year ago
    Based on what their schedule against Texas schedule.Get real. Oklahoma will
    beat Tech, the game is in Norman not Lubbock.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    That was not the issue. Alot of voters do not vote based on schedule anyways. Some voters vote on who they think is the best team in the country right now. Alot of people think that is Florida and I would probably agree with them. No reason to get hasty, and trust me I know where the game is as I will be in attendance.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    Once again on the last play of the game thing. Your team was dominated for 58 minutes. We did not score on 6 straight posessions in the second half. Stop beating a dead horse with this last second business. YOU LOST!! Maybe if your corner back was a little stronger, he could have tackled the best WR in the country. He did not. GET OVER IT. You are properly ranked, and still did not get jumped in the BCS. (you should have)
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    On the other hand, I think Crabtree may be the best receiver in the country. It may not have been completely their cornerback's fault at all. I believe their cornerback covering Crabtree was just a freshman. But, that's what Texas gets for covering the best receiver in the country (Crabtree) with just a freshman. Have a good one.
  • elgrandelobo · 1 year ago
    Not getting hasty. Just the facts. Again you are wrong, that is why each
    poll uses strength of Schedule as part of their equation. It's not what a
    lot of people think, it is only those that make up the BCS poll. What other
    polls including the AP poll say or think is meaningless. Enjoy your trip to
    Norman.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    Uh humans do not usually use alot of equations when they pick their ballot though. You see that Florida has 2 first place votes don't you.....That means that PEOPLE have placed them at number one. They obviously would not recieve first place votes if the HUMAN POLL was using an equation. Thanks.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    I know they have no effect on the BCS. So why are u griping then????????????????? You are the one complaining about Texas being ranked below florida in the AP poll.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    However T.T., Florida could be the B.C.S. # 1 after they beat Alabama in the S.E.C. Championship game; or yet, Texas Tech could be # 1 after they beat Oklahoma; and that would make Florida # 2 after they beat Bama, if Texas Tech will be rated # 1. But, according to this scenario, It should be Florida # 1 and Tech # 2. By gosh, when # 8, at the time, Alabama, beat then, # 3, Georgia, Alabama bounced all the way up to # 2. That didn't make any sense to me at all, especially that early in the season. Nevertheles, I would rather be # 2 going into the game anyway, and coming out of the game # 1. Later ......
  • elgrandelobo · 1 year ago
    Where is Florida ranked in the BCS Poll, fourth, right behind Texas, they
    could move in front of Texas today.. If O.U. beats Tech then we have a 3 way
    tie. The team with the highest BCS ranking will then go to the Big 12
    Championship Game. If Tech loses to O.U. & O.U. beats Okla.St. the next week
    they will more than likely jump over both Texas & Texas Tech because Tech &
    Texas both play weaker teams in their last games.. If not, I think Texas
    will be the higher ranked BCS team unless they lose to Texas A&M on
    Thanksgiving day. Don't get me wrong the only chance Texas has is for Tech
    to lose to O.U. You have no idea how difficult it is for me to pull for
    Oklahoma. O.U. Sucks.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    yeah I understand that. I think Missouri will play a bigger factor than people think. I wish your team luck the rest of the way, and please beat the crap out of AtM so the aggies cannot even begin to think they had any sort of high point in their season.
  • elgrandelobo · 1 year ago
    Missouri could be a problem, the Big 12 Championship will be played in
    Kansas City in an outdoor stadium and the weather could be a big equalizer.
    Texas beat them pretty easy earlier, was 35 -3 at the half & Texas played a
    lot of 2nd. & 3.rd. teamers in the second half. It is always difficult to
    beat a team twice in the same season. A few years ago we beat the crap out
    of Colorado in the regular season and lost to them in the Big 12
    Championship Game. Knocking us out of not only going to the National
    Championship but knocked us out of going to a BCS Bowl Game. I just saw
    today's BCS poll and the top five stayed the same as last week.
    1. Alabama
    2. Texas Tech
    3. Texas
    4. Oklahoma
    5. USC
    I still think Alabama is nothing more than an average team & Florida could
    be the best team in the nation.
    Trust me if Texas can't win the Big 12 South, I hope Texas Tech does & then
    wins the National Championship Game. My favorite team is the Longhorns & on
    any other week end except next Saturday my favorite team is who ever is
    playing Oklahoma. Good Luck.
  • otowngator · 1 year ago
    You may want to re-check .....I believe FL is # 4......
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Isn't Florida ranked # 3 in the latest B.C.S. poll? Texas is ranked # 4, Oklahoma # 5, and U.S.C. # 6. It doesn't really matter, though. Nonetheless, in my opinion, Florida will beat Alabama and represent the S.E.C. in the 2008 National Championship from Miami unless something strange happens; and it'll be either Oklahoma or Texas Tech. I think it'll be Tech; I'll be pulling for Tech for whatever reason, anyway. Later, and good luck to Florida ....... I hope you guys beat the living daylights out of Alabama (No mercy either).
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    I also pull for whoever is playing OU every week of every year-look I cant help it if OU-Sux
    teams I ,like
    Texas
    Baylor
    Rice
    TCU
    A&M
    Ole Miss
    La Tech
    I never liked UH, TTech or SMU
    in that order
    Like to see them lose to the Cowboys in Stillwater
    Also like to see Texas Tech lose To Baylor
    Hookem-Horns
    Sicem-Bears
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    The Bears beat the Aggies purty bad 41-21
    shoulda been 48-14 Aggs blocked a punt and had one good pass the whole game- That was The BU Bears dominated the Aggies- We were there at the game- A&M couldnt do nothing
    Texas is gonna demoralize them bad
    wont even be a game the third string can whupem
    Hookem-Horns
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    Yell loud, we'll do our best for you :-)
  • elgrandelobo · 1 year ago
    Tell OU Ron, they still suck.
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    They still suck, Ron.

    Look, I'm tired of being your message boy...
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    Thanks Greg, I guess he's not talking to me, really hurts my feelings :-)
  • Zac · 1 year ago
    WELL! U juthst tell WarEagle to tell elgrade-boy to tell you that I'm not talking to that thilly thavage either. Humph!!! (Thorry your feelinthz are hurt, by the way. Can I help any, big boy, hmmm?)
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    The Coaches and Harris poll listed here are 2/3 of the BCS formula.

    I would say that they matter.

    The AP offers an independent and recognized NC. I would argue they matter as well.
  • elgrandelobo · 1 year ago
    As I said previously, those polls that make up the BCS are the only ones
    that matter & that would include the Coaches & the Harris Poll.. What
    influences their decisions is another issue. The AP poll is primarily sports
    writers from around the country. The problem with that is a large majority
    of those are from the east coast, and another large group from the far west
    coach. Those from the east coast don't really believe that college football
    is played west of the Mississippi river, & those some of those from the west
    coast have the typical USC west coast bias. If you will remember just a
    couple of years ago everyone from the east & the west coast thought USC was
    the best team ever. Vince Young proved them wrong. I guarantee you they have
    no idea how good Texas Tech is. They think Tech is just another Boise St. or
    Hawaii. If Notre Dame was not going through hard times no matter what they
    would also be contenders for the title.That's just the way it works.
    I hope you can see that I have been involved in college football for a long
    time. Good Luck
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    That is a terrible comparison. I guarantee you they don't think we are another Boise State. Those teams were virtually untested until their bowl game, unless you would like to think Texas is just not that good. Last time i checked we are the number 2 ranked team in the country and beat a number 1 ranked Texas. I have a hard time buying that we are flying under the radar at this point....................
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    Nothing wrong with being like Boise State, last time I looked, they've been kicking ass....
  • elgrandelobo · 1 year ago
    It doesn't matter, on the east coast & the west coast you are just a west
    Texas school from where (Lubbock). I don't mean this as a put down but when
    was the last time you were # 2 in the country in November. Their respect for
    U.T. is the same compared to the Florida & USC,Ohio State, Penn State &
    Alabama Just follow ESPN & you will see who they are talking about. Again I
    wish you the best.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    I see where your coming from, but it is what it is. They like Cindarella stories as well....sometimes. haha.
  • elgrandelobo · 1 year ago
    Look at Ohio State & Georgia both with 2 losses. Where do you think they
    would rank Texas Tech or U.T. if they had two losses. If Oklahoma beats Tech
    it would not surprise me if Florida, & USC, & Texas jump in front of you.
    It's not right but that is the way it is. For many it is who do you see on
    T.V. or read about or see on the Internet the most. As I said earlier, if
    the Longhorns are not there I hope Texas Tech is.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    Oh i completely agree. If we lose we are done. They will show no mercy for us, and we prolly will get screwed out of the BCS all togeether even though we beat texas head to head.
  • elgrandelobo · 1 year ago
    I agree, but it's not right. If Oklahoma beats Tech & Okla St. they will
    move in front of Texas even though we beat them 45 to 35. It was no fluke, I
    was sitting on the 45 yard line at the Cotton Bowl & it was obvious who had
    won the game. If that happens we both are screwed.
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Tyler_Tech:

    Does anybody remember Oklahoma State? Another great undefeated team that the "pundits" built up out of nothing. Didn't you guys just pound that team back to where they really belong? Now, just imagine that Texas Tech can pound that OK State team 56-20. Who do you suppose might pound Tech by around the same score? I say that Florida and USC would. Too bad that we're never gonna get to find out.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    The pundits always build up USC, so do not give me that. You should not drink the "kool-aid" they are letting you sip on about your team. Whether you would like to admit it or not USC does not a have a complete football team. They are sub-par on offense. I would argue that we could beat you this year. Florida is the most complete team in the country. Your great team squeaked out a win over arizona, and came from behind over stanford. One final thought Oregon state......enough said.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Ok State would probably be undefeated in the Pac-10
    Yall couldnt stop the Beavers
    They beat Houston,Troy and Missu, would kill Wash,Wash St,Stanford,AZ st exc etc
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    There's no mercy in football.........Tech, with Leach as their HC, the man doesn't care if he is 8 or 80 ahead in a game, It's always ball's the wall from start to finish........Mercy ???
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    Tech would fall below Florida, but not USC.

    USC is over rated, but a lot of pollseters hold to the ethic that you don't move a team down when they win, keeping them up.
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    LittleMutt:

    So, you really think that if Texas Tech loses, that it would be an outrage for Florida, USC and Texas to jump over them? Who the hell is Texas Tech? You got one real lucky win over Texas and you think your really all that? Oklahoma is gonna whip your azz. Mark it down. You got no talent at all. Oklahoma is gonna beat that Raider azz red. Man, you guys and the Bama creed, play the weakest azz schedules in the country and really think your #1. Your day is coming. Let's see how your blabbering at the end of all this. You better hope that you don't get Florida or USC in some BCS bowl game. That'll let you know right where you stand. Leave the kitty's catnip alone.
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    Making new friends again Tommy ??
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    OU_Ron:

    Yeh, I just love to mess with these kinda guys. They all remind me of those Boise fans who came on here a few years back. They get one "lucky" win over somebody, like Oklahoma in 05' with their poorest team in a few years, and all of a sudden they think that they're National Champs. Just kills me. I'm just sittin' here waitin' for both Alabama and Texas Tech to fall hard. It's gonna happen. It's "Big Boy Ball" from here on out.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    Were you playing "big boy ball" against arizona, stanford and oregon state??
  • Bama_Babe · 1 year ago
    Tyler,
    Apparently beating top 10 teams isn't "Big Boy Ball". I guess you'll have to beat a number 1 team to be in that Big Boy league.

    ...Oh wait. Tech did that.

    I guess Tommy thinks you gotta beat the almighty Trojans to be in that league he speaks of.

    ..Big Boy Beavers!
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    haha, AGREED. I suppose going undefeated is not enough for USC fans. Apparently to be worthy to be ranked in the top 5 you have to play in the pac-10 and have a loss to oregon state. Wait lemme check real quick. Uh nope we do not apply. I thought you might respect teams from the big 12 a little more after your little run in with Texas in 05.
  • elgrandelobo · 1 year ago
    Well lets see Tommy Trojan, seems like we all heard that same garbage in
    December of 2005. Then on Jan. 4, 2006 a guy by the name of Vince Young let
    the hot air out of your balloon.
    Please tell me again how strong the PAC 10 really is, USC is the only one in
    the top 13 in the BCS Poll & they may not even win the PAC 10 Conference..
    The Big 12 has 5 in the top 13. Now lets look at the SEC, Alabama is no more
    than an average team, Georgia is not what it was supposed to be & Florida is
    very good & may be the best team in the nation. The rest are good but not
    great football teams.
    Texas Tech on the other hand is a vey good team with a great system and a
    crazy coach. I think a lot of people are in for a big shock if they play
    Tech in the championship game. By the way, check out the strength of
    schedule of the Big 12 teams before you make dumb statements.
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    LittleMutt:

    So, now your actually gonna start yappin', about how your in the class of Texas and USC of 05'. For realz? Texas Tech, as I have pointed out on many occasions statistically in the past (your new - so you just have not been informed), has absolutely the worst recruiting classes of any of the top players over the last five years. A football team is composed of 22 players - not two. Texas Tech will be exposed while they're playing against Oklahoma, Missouri and Florida. There is no way in the world, that your weak azz team, makes it through those three teams. You have one fine QB and one fine WR. That's about it. You don't have anything anywhere near the best OL in the country. I don't care how much the "pundits" want to lie to you. If you want to drink the "kool-aide" that is fine. I refuse to drink. Florida will be this years National Champion. Although USC won't get to play for it - they will finish ranked #2. Copy and paste this into the rest of your scrap collection. After that you won't be so "new" anymore. I strongly believe that we're not gonna be hearin' from you "Techie boyz" anymore after this coming weekend.
  • elgrandelobo · 1 year ago
    Just for your left coast information, I did many years ago graduate from the
    University of Texas & received my Masters from there as well and am not a
    Texas Tech fan. I was at both Rose Bowls we played in 2005 against Michigan
    and won and again in 2006 against USC which we also won when the whole world
    was saying USC was the best team ever. Sitting on the 50 yard line at both
    games. I have also attended every major bowl game for the past 50 years that
    Texas has ever played in and was also at the Ohio State game in 2005 when we
    beat them before playing USC in the championship game. So I really don't
    think I am uninformed as you say.
    What I am trying to tell you is I was at Lubbock when Texas Tech dominated
    most of the game with us. We came back late to go ahead with 1.29 on the
    clock and lost the game on the last play of the game.This is not the same
    Tech as we have known for the past few years. A team that would score 42 but
    give up 62. A team that in the past did not have a running game now has a
    good running game. A team that in the past could not protect their QB now
    has a very good offensive line and protects the QB.
    I was also in Dallas when Texas beat Oklahoma & that was no fluke either.
    Our pass defense with 3 freshmen & 1 sophomore is not very good, Oklahoma's
    is worse.
    The biggest advantage Oklahoma has is they are playing at home & the Tech
    Coach Leach was at Oklahoma as the Offensive Coordinator under Bob Stoops
    before he went to Texas Tech. If any one understands Tech's offense it is
    Bob Stoops.
    I would love to see Oklahoma win the game and also beat Okla. St. the next
    week end. That would put Texas, Oklahoma & Texas Tech in a three way tie for
    the Big 12 South and the one ranked highest by the BCS would play Missouri
    in the Big 12 Championship Game. That is about the only chance Texas has to
    making it to the National Championship Game.
    Go back a couple of years when Cal. who had visions of a BCS Bowl game
    played Texas Tech in the Holiday Bowl instead and got embarrassed big time.
    Cal finally made it look better late in the game against the 2nd. & 3rd.
    teamers. As I said earlier Florida could be the best team in the country.
    So before you start running your mouth off about someone being new &
    uninformed, you might politely ( if you know how ) ask the other person
    where you are coming from.

    Good luck to you and have a
    GREAT DAY
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    elgrandelobo:

    I'll go with what you got. But, please, one lucky win over Texas don't mean jack to me. You forgot what happened to Texas Tech last time they played USC. I think that it was 55-7 or something like that. Bowl game when we sucked. Didn't much matter. They caught a Cal team that had just been smooth ripped off by the BCS. That team was very disappointed even playing Texas Tech. Like I said - Texas Tech does not have enough talent. If Oklahoma don't roll these guys up - I'm gonna be shocked. It's very tough for anybody to go unbeaten. Texas just had their off game against these guys. And, then they got a "miracle" play at the end. They aren't even close to being the best team in the country. You guys are all gonna find that out real soon.
  • elgrandelobo · 1 year ago
    Hey Man, I'm a true Longhorn and I was at the Texas?Texas Tech game and have
    no love for Texas Tech. They dominated the first half & much of the third
    quarter and we were behind by at least 21 points most of the game. That
    wasn't luck. We finally put it together and went in front with 1:29 left in
    the fourth quarter. We should have won the game but made too many mistakes
    in the last 1:29 and they scored a TD with one second on the clock. We play
    Tech every year, don't make the mistake that they are the same old Tech from
    the past.
    I was also in Dallas for the Texas/O.U. game & their pass defense is not
    good. Texas clearly was the best team on that day.
    I did not say they are the best team in the country, they are simply one
    team you don't want to have to play to reach a championship. I think the Big
    12 South is the strongest in the country & Texas Tech is still undefeated,
    sure they could lose to Oklahoma in Norman Oklahoma but I doubt that Bob
    Stoops has slept much this week.
    Tech has the right talent to fit their system, that's why they win. USC
    every year has more individual talent than most but when it doesn't fit you
    have a down year. Again, I think Florida has more talent on both sides of
    the ball and may be the best team in the country. I also believe that Texas,
    TexasTech & Oklahoma should rank in the top five.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Tommie they do have a O-line probably alot better than any team the Trojans have faced
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Tomcat:

    Now you know damn well we'd have Harrell on his azz all game long. There wouldn't be a single receiver open all game long. It wouldn't even be a game. What would these guys be able to do against this defense? Run the ball? Don't think so. Look it up. Tell me who has the most overwhelming pass defense in the country? Any ideas?
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Tech beat Oklahoma State 56-20 and Texas beat Oklahoma State 28-24. Does that sound like Tech isn't better than Texas? Tech beat them' head on too. Good teams always come through in the clutch ...... sort of like U.S.C. did at Oregon this year .... Duh????
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    But, the beat Kentucky 63-5; South Carolina 56-6; Vanderbilt 42-14; L.S.U. (the National Champions) 51-21; Georgia 49-10. Uh ......... ? I wonder what Alabama did against these teams. Can you tell me what Alabama did against the same teams. I'm not sure if they play Vanderbilt. Right off hand, there's bound to be another score that doesn't compare to Florida's domination since the Ole Miss game; and believe it or not, I"m pretty impartial between Alabama and Florida. I'm a huge L.S.U. fan, and I can't stand either Florida or Alabama. It has nothing to do with Nick Sabin, arguably the best coach in the history of College Football. I wish Nick well.......
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    DV56:

    Yep, Nick Saban ranks right there with Bear Bryant, Joe Paterno and Bobby Bowden. What's he got? One National Champion? Greatest of all time - no doubt about it! I doubt if any other coach has ever won one Championship. There simply is no comparison - Saban is the greatest that has ever coached. Put down the shine while there is still time.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I agree with you, that Nick Saban is probably the greatest coach of all time. Bryant only bothered me when I was young. Bryant doesn't affect me anymore, nor does Saban. Saban has a right to be where he wants to be. I have no hard feelings at all concerning what he thought was best for him and his family. Like I said, I was young when Bryant put that bad taste in my mouth concerning Alabama. L.S.U. just couldn't beat them when he was coach, that's all. However, him not coaching (May he rest in peace?) doesn't change my opinion about the Crimson Tide. I still don't like them & it has nothing to do with Nick Saban's departure from Baton Rouge either. Oh ........ I think Saban is the finest coach & definitely equal to or better than Paterno (Penn State), Bobby Bowden (Florida State), John McKay (U.S.C's really successful coach a few years ago), Jimmy Johnson (Miami), Darrel Royal (Texas), Frank Broyles (Arkansas), Steve Spurrier (Florida & now South Carolina), Barry Switzer (Oklahoma), and any other coach that has ever coached college football. We'll certainly miss Saban at L.S.U., even though many other Tiger fans would probably throw stones (so-to-speak; not literally) at him if he came close to Tiger Stadium again. He did have extra security at the last game because of many L.S.U. fans have hard feelings. But, me personally, I wish him all the luck in the world. I just hope that he doesn't dominate us like the Bear did during his tenure there (how long; that remains to be seen?); or we're in deep trouble. Saban is the greatest college coach of all time, no doubt. But, because of him leaving us at L.S.U., I, personally don't hold anything against him; and like I've said 2 or 3 times, he's probably the greatest coach in college football history. Later ......... and have a good day.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Just compare the other common teams that both have played unless you can't find both schedules, especially since the Ole Miss game. That game woke them up. It was just a wake up call. Alabama has just been very lucky. They'll have to be more than lucky when they play Florida. Alabama would have beaten Florida the day that Ole Miss did, but not likely in the S.E.C. championship' game, however.
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    Hopefully, our wake up game took place Saturday night vs Troy.


    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I totally agree with ya, T.E. because Ole Miss is a very, very good football team; and that's a real understatement. We better be playing our ..... A ...... game if we have a chance to win this game, that's for sure.
  • Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago
    Ole Miss is far from mediocre this year. Sorry pal.
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    Agreed.


    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • JB · 1 year ago
    I agree as well, the game this Saturday scares me a lot.
    Jevon Snead is verrrrrry good and the D isnt bad either
    between our secondary getting eaten alive and Jarrett Lee throwing as many INT-TDs as possible, a loss not only seem possible, but imminent


    But i remain hopeful all the same..Geaux Tigers
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Snead is a very good QB, and Lee will improve. I just hope his improvement takes a huge step forward this Saturday afternoon against Ole Miss. Lee has got alot of potential. I think that he stops focusing on what is at hand (just stops his concentration or something). In the S.E.C., especially, the QB has to maintain focus because the S.E.C. has so much speed on defense as well as offense; and before he gets it to his receivers, one of those quick linebackers or cornerbacks picks it off. Sometimes, ya just don't know where in the h........ he's throwing to ...... like the pick 6 he threw in the Bama game (Way overthrown). Later ......
  • JB · 1 year ago
    Yea...his mistakes are unbelievable!!!!! I could get out there and not stare down my wide reciever!
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Yeah, his mistakes are unbelievable right now ....... and I surely hope we see major improvement this week vs. Ole Miss. Ole Miss is good. We'll definitely need Lee to play much better with no pick 6's. I think that he'll get there. I just hope it's this week. He's brilliant when he's on, but when he's off, he's probably the worst QB in the nation. I hope this week is the week we see no pick 6's and to see just how good Lee is gonna be because he's gonna be really good when he matures. But, I hope that major part of his maturity is this week, though. We do have Jefferson (Jordan), but he does not have enough experience. Lee does .... and he's exposed himself to extreme scrutiny all across the football world, esecially by us die hard Tiger fans. Lee has extreme pressure on him now ..... and he's earned it too with all of his pick 6's. But, he's gonna have to work out of it and get some confidence because if he doesn't, Tiger fans are gonna continue to really criticize. Nonetheless, he's really all that we have right now. We just need to pull for him and hope that he doesn't throw any more pick 6's (or no interceptions at all). I think he need to improve this Saturday vs. Ole Miss, nevertheless. Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • JB · 1 year ago
    I agree.....i know that when he matures, he will be very good! I agree that this week (and next week vs. Ark) are key to his developement. And, if i remember correctly, Matt Stafford threw 15 INT's his first year as the starter in Athens, and look where he is now! So, i agree the future looks bright. Geaux Tigers!
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Man! .......... You're right on ...... Stafford did throw allot of Int's; and Alabama fans don't have memories like elephants like they should. But, they do have S.E.L.E.C.T.I.V.E. M.E.M.O.R.I.E.S. John parker Wilson threw alot his freshman, sophomore, and junior years. In fact, he threw, I believe a pick 6 vs. Miss. State just last year and Miss. St. beat them. In fact, Mississippi State beat them the last two years in a row!!!!!!!!! I can't remember when L.S.U. even lost to Mississippi State 1 time, much less 2 times in a row. Both, John Parker Wilson and Stafford have had their share of difficulties, that's for sure. They have no reason to make fun of Lee, even though, as a Tiger fan, it's pretty frustrating. I guess we are going through what Georgia and Alabama has had to go through with Stafford and Wilson, respectively (In that order, in other words). Nonethelss, like you, I hope Lee's bright future starts this Saturday vs. Ole Miss. I think, eventually that he's gonna be one of the best there is, in fact ............. if he sticks with it ....... that is. Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • JB · 1 year ago
    Well said, my friend
    Geuax Tigers!!!
    FUSC
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    J.B., Thanks, I"m glad womeone likes my thoughts on these posts. I guess, really, T.E. and his friend, Bama_Babe, are the only ones to really voice their bad feelings towards what I think. Being a Bama fan, I can sort of understand Bama_Babe for not liking what I say because I don't like Bama and I tell the truth of what I think will happen in the Florida vs. Alabama game. Florida ..... and if Florida plays the way they've been playing, Alabama can play their very best & Florida will still beat them by 2 or more T.D.'s Well anyway, thanks for the compliment!!!!!! Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!!! Now, we need Lee to really improve starting this Saturday vs. Ole Miss ....... and to get nothing but better ......and better.......and better ...... as I know he can and he probably will. I think that he'll eventually be one of the best myself, if he sticks with it, that is ...... as I had said. Well, thanks once again J.B.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    TheMayor, Not staring down his receivers as a true freshman, for him, might just come with experience. Maybe, as a freshman, you, yourself, may not need any experience. That would make you very few and far between. Most young players just need experience; and improvement for Lee (I believe), improvement is really inevitable. It will come ...... improvement is fast tor few ....... and experience is slow for many. I just hope it's sort of fast for Lee ...... with it coming this Saturday vs. Ole Miss. We'll need him to improve to win. But, it just depends on each individual athlete and his true grit to succeed, his own persistence to succeed, his character is very important, and his dedication to overcome his faults (Namely pick 6's & Int's, in general). I believe in him that he will get better; and I hope it'll be this Saturday night. Against Ole Miss., we'll need him to not throw any pick 6's, though, and to be brilliant like he has been at various (particular) times ........ only more consistantly consistant. Ole Miss can have the word 'consistent' to even describe them. They're 'consistentlyinconsistant', sort of like the true freshman, Lee is rigeed Ole Miss to be bad inconsistant to have a chance this week unless Lee happens to start coming into his own ......so-to-speak....... this week vs. the Rebels!!!!!!! Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago
    As a Gators fan, I wish Ole Miss WAS mediocre.
  • Mr2Bits · 1 year ago
    As do I. I actyually think that loss was a good thing for Florida. I don't think we'd be near as dominate if not for that wake-up call.

    Florida is still right where they need to be to make the NC run. Just keep hanging half a hundred every week and there will be no question.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I agree with ya totally, Mr2Bits. It gave Florida an excellent chance of makin' this N.C. run, that's for sure. I think Florida is definitely the best college football team in the country this year. But, they must remain focused because Ole Miss came right on in and beat the mighty powerful Florida Gators right in their own house 'in the Swamp'; and we (L.S.U.) HAD TO PLAY THEM the following week. That was the worst time to have to play them (In the Swamp, where Florida losing 2 in a row is next to impossible; Well, we got creamed 51-21 ........ and that really, really hurt me and the rest of the Tiger faithful, for sure!). Nevertheless, sometimes, we do have to have something bad happen for good things to start happening, such as Ole Miss BEATING Florida in their own back yard. That was a good thing for Florida because it made them focus every down, every play, every minute of each subsequent game (EACH GAME AFTER THE OLE MISS GAME, THIAT IS). Now, if they can just keep that same focus, THE FLORIDA GATORS WILL DEFINITELY BE the 2008 National Champions, for sure.

    That will, then, make Florida and L.S.U. the only two teams in the country with 2 B.C.S. National Championships. Right on ........ S.E.C.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • gatorhippy · 1 year ago
    I'm just glad Ole Miss isn't on the Florida schedule next season...

    Rebs will be pretty damn good in 2009...
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    The Rebs are on our schedule every year, and Florida (you guys) are the only team from the East that's on our schedule every year. We alternate the other 5 teams from the East (Somehow, they pick 2 of the other 5 teams and alternate them every few years). We play everyone from the West (We're in the West, of course) every year and we play 3 teams from the East (One of them always being Florida for L.S.U. anyway); Alabama didn't have to play Florida during the regular S.E.C season. They played Tennessee instead; and yeah ..... we're gonna have our hands full this Saturday afternoon against the Rebels. We'll have to play those suckers every year too, and I definitely agree that they'll be very good next year too. Later .........
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    What about ranked ACC teams penchant for losing?

    This could bode well for FSU this week as Maryland is ranked in every poll.
  • Zac · 1 year ago
    Two problems with that, Ben. 1) The Noles play AT MD. 2) Their next game is home against the Gators. It'll be an interesting test of character to see to what extent they look ahead, and you know they will.
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    I just think it is funny that some people say Alabama is average and Florida is awesome.we both have played pretty much the same SEC teams they lost one of them and we are 11-0. here are my pics for Auburn and Florida. Bama- AU 7, Bama 28- Fl.24 Of course i'm Biased
  • Zac · 1 year ago
    Who wouldn't be in your shoes? I'm neither an SEC, FL, nor Bama fan. FL 27, AL 23. Remember; you heard it here 1st.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I think Florida will win by a much larger amount ........ maybe even 14 - 21 points. Florida is dominant right now, offensively, defensively, and special teams (all 3 phases of the game).
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    L.S.U. will be back. This is just a down year. Recruiting is going very well; and I hope it continues. For all the high school stars around the country, L.S.U. is THE VERY best place to be whether one is a player, and or, a fan on a Saturday night (In Death Valley)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Zac:

    Sorry, I think I said it would be Florida 56 Alabama 10 - in like the 1st week of the season. Your way too late on this one. Bleed, can back me up.
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    I dunno, Tommy. I think Bama keeps them under 30, which would be quite an accomplishment considering how Florida's been playing...
  • Bama_Babe · 1 year ago
    WEA,

    I agree.

    And if the offense can manage the clock, finding a way to get the ball in the endzone - and keeping Tebow and Co. off the field - , I think we have a good chance. However, if Florida plays like they have the last few weeks and Bama as they have, it could be a long night in the Georgia Dome.....
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Agreed, young lady.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    But, compare the other scores between Florida and Alabama....... both ..... (For Florida) before the Ole Miss-Florida game and after that game. There's a huge difference. They became more serious and more focused. Please just check out Florida's domination since that game and before that game in which it woke them up. Use some common sense. I don't like Florida or Alabama. My opinion is very impartial. Florida is definitely the best team in the country. For the NC, I believe it will be Florida against Texas Tech. But, it could be Oklahoma. But, I believe Tech is the best in the Big 12 right now after they beat Texas 39-33 and completely dismantled Oklahoma State 56-20. The only way Alabama will be able to beat Florida is with emotion and also Florida not playing very well at all; and also Alabama will have to play their best game of the year with no mistakes or very few mistakes.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    DV 56
    Your purty funny you consider Ole Miss over Fla a Fluke but not Texas Tech over Texas?
    was Vandy over Ole Miss a fluke? Texas over OU wasnt no fluke
    Did you see the game a missed tackle by a freshman will one second on the clock
    Hookem-Horns
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    oops Bama21 -Auburn 7
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    Lets compare SEC schedules.

    Tennessee: Both at Tennessee
    Florida 30-6, Alabama 29-9

    Ole Miss: Both home
    Florida 30-31, Alabama 24-20, Point for Alabama, but far from a convincing performance of superiority over Florida.

    Arkansas: Both away
    Florida 38-7, Alabama 49-14

    LSU: Alabama away
    Florida 51-21, Alabama 27-21(OT) , Point for Florida. 23 points is more than the home filed edge.

    Kentucky: Both home
    Florida 63-5, Alabama 17-14, Point for Florida

    Georgia: Alabama away
    Florida 49-10, Alabama 41-30, The Alabama game was not that close, not points

    Florida 42 @ Vanderbilt 14, Mississippi State 32 @ Alabama 7. These are about even. No point scored.

    South Carolina 6 @ Florida 56, Auburn @ Alabama TBD

    Florida is ahead by a point, and I don't know how Alabama can beat Auburn more convincingly than Florida's win over South Carolina, as Auburn is a worse team than South Carolina this year.
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    Ben Id say your about right their I don't argue the fact that Florida is played great football. and have some more impressive wins.but for some to say we don't have a chance is ridiculous.Auburn will play their best game against us I'm sure.and the score will not be like SC and Fl.ill just say that now It never has been.I like the fact the Florida will be picked to win.
  • "BC" · 1 year ago
    alright ben. i wanna get your opinion on this because this has a HUGE influence on how everybody views a team.
    in my opinion, comparing final scores is completely stupid because i don't think it tells you anything about how good a team is.
    like i've been preaching:

    how many points a team scores is based on the style of offense the team plays. A spread offense scores quickly and passes the ball a lot, so there will be a lot more time on the clock to score points. you can see this especially when two spread teams play each other because you'll end up with a basketball score.

    another thing is coaching philosophy.
    what a coach chooses to do when he knows he's won is a big player. nick saban likes to take his foot off the gas. when we've got a team beat he throws in backups and starts doing nothing but running up the middle.
    he calls this the 4 minute offense.
    urban meyer on the other hand, doesn't take his starters out until they've scored at least 40 points, and when he puts his backups in, he still doesn't let up one bit. he'll have his 2nd string QB throwing TD passes as time expires en route to a 40-point win.
    that's nothing against either coach. it's just the truth.

    Nick Saban could've hung at least 40 points on Mississippi St.. on the last possession, he decided to start kneeling inside the redzone with the 2nd string. urban meyer would've taken shots at the end zone.

    am i wrong in this?
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    You are wrong about Meyer.

    He consistently calls out his first string after they are up by 21 after the third quarter.

    If they are up by 70 in the third quarter he is going for the score with the starters. If he is up by 14 late in the fourth he is going for the score with his starters. If he is up by 24 in the fourth he is going for the score with his second string.

    Anyone who thinks the SEC championship is not a must see game that could go either way is either an avid Alabama or Florida fan. I doubt they would argue that it is not a must see event.

    I still want to see Auburn and FSU win this week, but barring that very unlikely result this game should be for a spot in the national title.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    You made your point quite well, except that Alabama blew a 31-0 lead and lacked the knockout blow. They almost let Georgia come from 31 down at halftime, only for Georgia to lose by a very respectable final score. A champion would have the knockout blow, and Florida surely did vs. Georgia (49-10). Vanderbilt is better than Mississippi State and Vandy was even ranked in the top 15 in the nation at one point. Mississippi State has only won 3 games. Vandy was 6-0 (at least) at one time. South Carolina, again, is no Auburn, or visa versa (comparing is arduous here). South Carolina, by the way, was ranked # 24 when they got whipped even worse than we (L.S.U.) did. We beat South Carolina 24-17 and we beat Auburn 26-21, but Auburn is not in the top 25 as South Carolina was as late as their whippin' by Florida 56-6. So, even if one wants to call them even based on the L.S.U. game, Alabama should be able to beat Auburn November 29th similar to the 56-6 whippin' Florida put on South Carolina.

    Consequently, all of Florida's pastings came in anger after being what most people would say totally embarrassed in The Swamp 31-30; and unfortunately, we (L.S.U.) had to play Florida the following week at The Swamp. Florida hasn't lost too many games at the Swamp and I don't think that they've lost 2 in a row there in 10 to 15 years. So, when Florida beat their oponents, it came after being humilitated in their house; and they're still angry with Tebow leading the way ....... and, as Tebow always says, "God bless". I predict Florida over Florida State, then Florida over Alabama and it shouldn't be close if they're still angry and focused after being totally humiliated in The Swamp. Alabama should beat Auburn, but ya never can tell in that intrastate rivalry, no matters who is favored. This is Auburn's own personal National Championship (At least, State Championship, for real).
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    LSU 21
    Alabama 27

    LSU 21
    Florida 51

    Case closed...
  • Bama_Babe · 1 year ago
    Ole Miss 31
    Florida 30

    Ole Miss 20
    Alabama 24

    Your point??

    You'll probably hit Kentucky scores next, right?
    Yeah - KY 5, FL 63
    KY 14, BAMA 17

    Who cares though? Just because the two scores between Alabama and Florida's games with LSU are a big difference, it doesn't prove a thing about the SECCG. Sure, Florida is the more complete team and, on paper - should win. But then again, TE, wasn't LSU better on paper than Georgia and Alabama?

    I like doubters though...makes it more fun when they're proven wrong ;)

    Gotta beat AU first though!
    Good Luck this weekend with the Rebels!
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    You're using the wrong tense...We ARE better...at 21/22 positions...

    We gave Georgia 17 points off turnovers...and we gave you 7 points off turnovers...

    All from the 1 position we need decent play from...

    Coulda/woulda/shoulda, I know...But, the stats don't lie...The final scores don't, either, but let's be honest...if we got anything even remotely resembling serviceable quarterback play, we win both of those games...

    Hell, if Jarret just doens't throw a pick in either game, we win...But, again, wins and losses don't lie...

    The truth of the matter is that Florida has more wide receiver talent than you have secondary help. They have more waterbugs at running back than you have folks to chase them.

    I know the game's played on the field, and definitely not here, but...well...how else can I put this, other than indelicately?

    Don't drop the soap in Atlanta, 'Bama...
  • Bama_Babe · 1 year ago
    Yeah, you're right. It's played on the field. Yes, Florida is the better team overall. Yes, Florida should win. But I guarantee you nobody thought Ole Miss would go down to the swamp and pull out a win.

    Sure, Florida has stepped it up since that game and "Tim Tebow stood in front of cameras with tears in his eyes and promised ..."blah blah blah. I heard that 5 too many times watching the UF - SC game Saturday. But whatever. None of that matters. No one thinks Bama can win. Fine. Maybe they can, maybe the can't. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. We'll find out December 6th, and I'll be there to witness whatever the outcome may be... ;)
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    I just sold tree of mine on CraigsList...

    Shoulda sent me an e-mail, woman...They could've been yours....

    (Wait...I'm sure you're probably in a suite somewhere, aren'tcha? LOL!)
  • Bama_Babe · 1 year ago
    haha nah, just regular seats.
    And no planes for that trip either! ;)
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    Drop in and say hi, BB (just to make TE jealous...)
  • Bama_Babe · 1 year ago
    Haha will you be at the game?
    Or do you only go when AU makes it?
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    I go whenever tickets fall into my lap, which is to say, virtually never...

    I'm probably going to get stuck babysitting my friend's children for the game this year when they come into town to stay with me while my AU alum friend takes his UF alum wife to the game...

    I hope they bring the Wii....
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Point well made, T.E. I totally agree with ya. Later ......
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Florida is much better than Alabama, comparing the scores. For example, Florida-63; Kentucky-5; Alabama-17; Kentucky-14; Then there's this one Florida 49; Georgia-10; Alabama-41; Georgia-30; Then there's this one Florida-51; The National Champions (L.S.U.) - 21 in regulation; Alabama 27; L.S.U.-21 in overtime, the only team to take Alababma to overtime. The only one that is close, but narrowly in Alabama's favor is Ole MIss, and I believe Florida overlooked Ole Miss. Ole Miss is a pretty good team, and as Alabama would agree, you can't overlook a pretty good team (Like L.S.U.), and expect a cake walk. If it wasn't for L.S.U.'s freshman quarterback making freshman mistakes (Like John Parker Wilson made his first 2 or 3 years at Bama), L.S.U. would've beaten Alabama. He's gonna be a good one once he matures and calms down. But, talent-wise, Florida should beat Alabama by 2 to 3 touchdowns. However, the best team does not always win with emotion is involved. For instance, the best team didn't even win the Alabama-L.S.U. game. But, L.S.U. had beaten Alabama the 5 previous years in a row.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Compare all the scores, not just the Ole Miss-Florida fluke. Compare all the Florida scores with all the Alabama scores and see what you come up with. Since Ole Miss woke them up, they've pretty much demolished everyone that that they've played, including the National Champions, the L.S.U. Tigers. That's right! L.S.U is still the national champions until Jan. no matter what planet you live on. Here are Florida's scores : Florida over Kentucky 63-5; South Carolina 56-6; Vanderbilt 42-14; L.S.U. 51-21; Georgia 49-10; Arkansas 38-7; and before the Ole Miss fluke, Tennessee 30-6; Miami Hurricanes 26-3; and Hawaii 56-10. Does Alabama have any common games against any of these teams? I rest my case ...........
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Alabama 17; Kentucky 14; Alabama 41; Georgia-30; Alabama 27; L.S.U.-21 in overtime. The only games that compared very closely were games that came before the Ole Miss fluke. Alabama-49; Arkansas-14 and Alabama-29; Tennessee 9. I just had to go ahead and mention some of the common games that each have played, especially since the Ole MIss fluke. Alabama is .... at best .... the 3rd best team in the country. But, I believe they're probably no better than 4th or 5th. Emotion is the only thing that can beat the more talented Florida team; and I don't even like Florida. Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! L.S.U. is still the reigning National Champions; and the only team to win 2 B.C.S. National Championships. Alabama has never won a B.C.S. National Championship and they won't win one this year either.
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    OK so they beat Ark.38- to 7, we beat Ark. 49-14, they beat Tenn.30-6 we beat Tenn.29-9, they beat Ga. 49-10 and we beat Ga.41-30 (20 points in the 4th qtr one on a punt return were they should have been called back for about 3 clipping calls and two tds in the last 4 Min's against the 2nd and 3rd string D.) the Georgia game was never close and we pretty much scored at will.Ole Miss we beat 24-20 they lost 31-30 call it a fluke but on that day Ole Miss played their heart out and beat Florida I don't think it was a fluke.LSU and Kentucky I will give you but we still won the games. And if you read my post I said I think it is funny that some people say Alabama is average at best you say is #3 to #5 at best if so would you call the the # 3 or the # 5 team average.As for your two BCS titles hang on to them tight because the next will be a long time coming.My other prediction Ole Miss 23-LSU 20
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I didin't say, 'average'. They had to beat us in OVERTIME. That means we're not average either. I think the Tigers going down to # 20, and or, # 19, after getting beat by the supposedly # 1 team in the country is a joke. If Alabama is the # 1 team in the country, L.S.U. (my team should definitely be ranked higher, or maybe, even in the top ten along with the team that had to beat us in OVERTIME. Getting back to Alabama being called just 'average', I didn't say that. Some other jerk did, probably from someone that likes some weak conference, such as the Big Ten or the Pac whatever they are, the Pac 10 or Pac 12. Well anyway, they're weak from top to bottom.

    I would like to stress one thing ....... and it 's very important here: Florida has done all their a....... kickin' after they got woken up by Ole MIss, not before. If that guy was right calling Alabama 'average', he could be speakin' of the way they way they beat similar teams to Florida and the way Alabama beat the same teams before Florida lost to Ole MIss. Since that loss, Florida has been on a mission dominating everyone, even the National Champion L.S.U. Tigers, whom Florida beat 51-21 and Alabama had to go into overtime against, 27-21; and I was there. L.S.U. outplayed Alabama. It was only because our freshman quarterback throwing his 6th pick 6. He's now thrown 7 pick 6's. Statisticly, we won 382 yards to 355 .......... and we're # 20? Go figure. Florida will beat Alabama talent-wise. Only mentally can Alabama win that game. Football is 90% mental and 10% physical ......and right now, Florida is simply dominating both categories (Since the Ole Miss game, that is).
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    I know you didn't say average some others have on this blog........Alabama will be ready for the game against Florida mentally.especially if were the underdog we play better when picked to lose.If you don't think Alabama is out to prove something this year your wrong and that is in part to everyone selling them short.Alabama is good this year and will better the next and the next and the next. we have one of the youngest teams in the country starting 16 freshman.we will lose Caldwell on the o line but that is about it. we will lose Wilson but we all our rbs will be back.and our defence will all be back.
  • don't tempt me · 1 year ago
    Let me state from the get-go...I'm not trying to start anything...I'm genuinely curious. With JPW leaving...how do you feel about bama's QB situation next year? How much of a setback do you think it will be, if at all?
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    No its a good question.... one I have asked myself I think McElroy will be the starter and he has looked good in limited play and he has a good arm and is mobile. I think athletically he is better the JPW has been.How he will handle the pressure of the stating roll I'm not sure. He was a awesome player in high school played at the same High school as Chase Daniels passed for 4600 yards (something like that) and ran for 700 more scored 56 tds in the one year he started....now how that translates to college we will have to see but i think he will be good.it will help that we will have a strong o line and all the RB's back with Julio Jones as a target down field.from a experience stand point it will hurt losing JPW.one thing he does has in his favor he has had two years to learn the system and I think we will see more of McElwains Offensive play calling.I mean he is making the calls this year but it is a very watered down version for JPW.I dont think it will be a major set back but we will have to see.
  • "BC" · 1 year ago
    absolutely.
    i think mechanically, and as far as raw talent goes, McElroy is better than JPW right now.
    i think what seperates them is the big experience factor. i'm sure eventually McElroy will hit his stride, but every QB has a tough first year in the SEC. we're talking about playing in the most intimidating environments in the world.
    but as far as a significant drop-off?
    i think next year we will have a more productive passing game, but i also think we'll see more mistakes made by the QB.
    McElroy is on the Dean's List, so the kid is very bright, it's just the nervousness factor.

    but also, don't count out Star Jackson and AJ McCarron.
    i would compare McCarron to Graham Harrell
    id compare Star Jackson to Pat White at WVU.
    and Greg McElroy to Colt McCoy.
    it will be interesting.
    i think we'll be back-to-back divisional champs at least.
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    I'm not counting out Jackson or Mccarron just fell McElroy will be the starter next year due to him being the Jr., and having more experience.I think Jackson will get some playing time as the Back up. McCarron we wont see next year he will be red-shirted.again we will have to see but I don't see a drop off as a team if anything I feel we will be better.
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    I watched them both throw, side by side, in Tiger Stadium, in their pregames, in shorts, in no pads, and then in warm ups prior to the LSU game, and the kid's footwork is NOWHERE NEAR Wilson's, nor is his delivery, nor is his velocity...

    There is no credibility in that comparison, at all. The difference in velocity alone is enough to basically discredit the entirety of that post...and I'm being kind here, BC...

    McElroy is nowhere near as strong armed or technically sound as JPW is, right now...
  • Bama_Babe · 1 year ago
    deathvalley,

    Has it ever occured to you that maybe your "National Champion L.S.U. Tigers" are ranked lower because they have 3 losses? Two of those being blowouts??

    No team with 3 losses is in the top 10 right now.

    So if you are so worried about the ranking, maybe you should worry about Ole Miss and Arkansas instead of how you think the outcome of the SEC Championship game will be....
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    you will get nowhere with this guy I told him almost the exact same thing he don't listen
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    RT-73
    Purty good post
    BTW Ole Miss played yall a close one too
    I'm glad those Hogs run off coach Nutt
    Texas beat the Hogs-52-10
    They scored a TD against our 2nd & 3rd stringers
    The Ole Miss QB is purty good and I like the Rebs over Tigers-
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    Ole Miss is a very physical team and when we lost Cody up front in that game they really took it to us.Im going with Ole Miss by 3
  • T · 1 year ago
    How on earth can Mizzou win + clintch division + put up more nombers than anyone and drop a spot in the BCS. Can anyone say Playoff's????
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Probably because the Texas Longhorns totally whuped that A-s and so did the OK St Cowboys
    remember those games werent even close and yall barley got past and shoulda lost against the BU Bears 5th place team in the B-12 south.
    Remember the Texas game? was it 28-0 first quarter or something- totally dominated the Tigers
    Hookem-Horns
  • Wardboy3 · 1 year ago
    Maybe it is just me but for the last couple of weeks this Alabama team remindes of the 98 TN team that won the BCS title.

    TN had 7 games against ranked teams (ranked when they played). Some close games (4 won by 7pts or less, including one in OT), the breaks going your way (questionable pass interference against Syracuse to keep drive alive to kick winning FG & everybody remembers Clint Stoerner), everybody keeps thinking you are going to loose...but TN never did.
  • Mr2Bits · 1 year ago
    It's lose and they will do so in Atlanta.
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    your 2 bits are worth about 1 cent. Florida can be and have been beat,and they will lose again in atlanta.
  • Mr2Bits · 1 year ago
    2 bits are worth a dollar, you'll find that out in ATL.

    If you feel so confident about your dominance, put your topsiders and seersucker where your mouth is.
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    i know what 2 bits are worth.......your 2 bits on the other hand is worth 1 cent.
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    Apparently you don't...no matter. The only bits you need to be concerned with, are the broken bits of bama's NC dream, which you will be picking up after our little rendevous in the ATL.


    GO GATORS!!
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    FYI: 2 bits = a quarter...hence "...2 bits, 4 bits, 6 bits..."

    ....the next in sequence= 8 bits, or $1.00.

    ...otherwise, good posting!


    GO GATORS!!
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    I never said 2 bits were a dollar mr 2 bits did all.And the only picking up thats going to be happening is Tebow picking his a** up off the ground.
    ROLL TIDE!!
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    "...I know what 2 bits are worth..." in reply to "...2 bits are worth a dollar..." = you saying 2 bits are worth a dollar--or at the very least, = you don't know what they're worth--let alone the historical context....

    We've heard that before about Tebow...pretty much before every game. Hopefully one of your players will say it--a la Geno Hayes, last year/FSU, or Jean-Claude van-Francois/LSU...

    ...that we may expect similar results (59-20, and 51-21, respectively).


    GO GATORS!!
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    well don't expect that to happen i think Saban would cut their tongue out ...not really but I don't think the players will say that.I do know this we have played only 5 times since 1998 and and we have taken 3 of the five I have heard this same talk before each game Florida was picked to win all 5.
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    Touche....but this game is in ATL--our swamp away from the Swamp. UF= 3-1 v. UA there all time (3-2 if you factor in the first game in '92, in B'ham). UF is 6-1 all time in Atlanta, 6-2 overall in SEC -CG's.

    That said, I think we can throw all the past out the window, as this game should be determined by rosters, more than anything else. IMO--my completely unbiased, objective, scientific opinion--if both teams show up healthy and ready for go, UF wins big!

    ...now, if bama is full throttle, but Tebow is injured--my confidence would decline significantly.

    ...that's quite a consession, wouldn't you say?


    GO GATORS!!
  • Wardboy3 · 1 year ago
    I'm not saying ALA will win in ATL or not..I'm not saying ALA will win against Auburn, I am just saying that this ALA team remindes ME of the 98 TN team. That is all I am saying.
  • Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago
    How many times was the word "fluke" just used? Seriously, get over yourself. We beat Florida fair and square on THEIR turf. We dominate the Swamp, its historical fact. We swapped blows with them the entire game. EVERY aspect of the game is -- guess what? PART of the game. Whether its a touchdown or a blocked PAT. We had to put them in that position before they even had to try to get ahead of us at the last minute.

    So cut out the "fluke" part. I'm sick of hearing that. This season for Ole Miss isn't a "fluke" either, though i'm still somewhat saying its a rebuilding season... even though we're going to a bowl game. I'll be optimistic and even say we have a shot at the SEC title next year.
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    HT I agree with you it wasnt a fluke and the rebels will be very good.
  • Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago
    And don't be surprised if your Tigers are underdogs this Saturday, either. Because while you had to wake up in the 4th quarter and realize, "Oh s%$t! We're playing Troy!" to come back and win, the Rebels calmly slammed the Warhawks into the turf at Vaught-Hemingway and made them "deeply impressed." Pun intended.
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    You won't be favored, but I think you have a damn good chance to win it !!
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Let me tell you something about (L.S.U) Tiger pride. We didn't have any the 1st three quarters. But, we showed character in the 4th quarter. After a game, we should have won (If it weren't for our freshman quarterback's mistakes), L.S.U. just stopped the pitty party and dominated the co-leader in the Sun Belt conference by a tune of 37-0 in the final 17 minutes. Did I say just 17 minutes ...... Yeah, I'm sure did.
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    Honestly, laying 37 on Troy in 17 min don't mean a whole lot to me, OU laid 28 on Nebraska in 6 1/2 min, still no big deal.......don't give Ole Miss that much of a head start.......you'll never catch up.....
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    I'm glad I'm back now...Maybe you should let me hold our banner here, for awhile...

    I'm the biggest Purple & Kool-Aid drinking member of this site...and trust me, there was NOT much to be excited over in beating Troy Saturday...

    I stayed until 0:00 in the 4th quarter, and I watched it all unfold...Jarret played inspired football, we FINALLY went vertical with the passing offense, but Troy GAVE that game away on offense because their receivers started acting like they were from the Sun Belt and actually started dropping passes that hit them in the hands. Pure & simple.

    That was the 4th spread offense this team has faced this year, and it still took us 3 quarters to begin to stop them...and I've got news for you...they stopped themselves.

    The one adjustment made did NOT come at halftime...We FINALLY lined Chad Jones up perpendicular to the end of the defensive line on the slotback side to allow him to pick up the drag route across the middle that they were picking us apart with...and even THEN they went vertical and simply had guys drop the ball...

    That adjustment with Chad Jones was AFTER they torched us to go up 31-3...

    Miles has made a clusterfack of this Co-Defensive Coordinator hire, and it shows...

    We should've beaten that team 54-0, but instead, our defense got embarassed by a Sun Belt Conference opponent...

    I'm all for LSU...till the day I die...But if you're happy with that defense, you may want to go to your doctor and check to see if you were the victim of a frontal lobotomy unbeknownst to you...
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Thanks for your personal insight. I appreciate it. For sure ..... we don't have the same team (players) that we had last year. Some very important players graduated (most notably, Flynn and Hester; but there are many others). I can name most of them. But, I'm not going to. Well anyway, I'm a glass 1/2 full person; and I take a W anyway that I can get it until we get reinforcements (Referring to our present # 3 recruiting class this year so far). I still take this W anyway we can get it. Ole Miss should be a real challenge. I just hope that we're fired up, similar to the Alabama game. It's a conference game against our long time arch rival.
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    Reinforcements? Our corners-the position we were missing all of our starters from-is the one bright spot on this team, as we have THREE starters, counting Hawkins, Eugene, & Patrick Peterson now (Who should've started out there on the island from DAY FREAKING ONE!)...

    The safety position returned a two year starter and a kid who came in for Steltz and played GANGBUSTERS in the NCG against tOSU last year...

    We also returned Chad Jones & McCray there...

    The safety position REGRESSED this year until we inserted McCray to the position and had to BENCH A SENIOR in Curtis Taylor...

    What reinforcements did we need at linebacker? We had a 1st team All-SEC three year starter coming back in Beckwith, who is at best a negligible, sub-par performer this year. He has REGRESSED.

    Cutrera, Riley, & Shepherd have all played well, but since they didn't see time last year, they're susceptible to being schemed against.

    On the line, don't even get me started...We had the biggest, most embarassing wealth of riches there, and we have less sacks than Troy does for the season...Nobody runs on us, but our pressure packages are vanilla-and we didn't even start using them until halfway through the year-and they're always checked out of and schemed against.

    We don't disguise coverages, we don't disguise pressure, we didn't twist and stunt until the South Carolina game this year...

    Our defense is a DISGRACE to the multi-talented players operating it...They come on and off the field confused...They call angry timeouts wondering WTF is going on...

    We have a guy whose coordinated at three different D-1 schools whose doing nothing on the sidelines but calming angry kids down and calling in plays from some dumb@ss in the booth with no coordinating experience...

    He DOES HAVE, however, four Michigan letters on resume from where he played there in the mid 80's...

    What kind of sense did that make? About the same kind of sense our defensive performances have looked this year...

    Every single one of our defensive statistical rankings are DOWN from the previous four years...Points per game, yards per game, yards rushing, yards passing, red zone defense (a HUGE stat for us)...

    We don't need reinforcements...the TALEN is not the problem...Miles and staff have done a DYNAMITE job of recruiting talent...

    It's player development and scheme that's off...and its GLARING...

    Please don't come over here floating that "its the players" tird in the FanBlogs Punchbowl...
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Patience is something most, if not all, L.S.U. fans don't have. In 2005, L.S.U. was 22nd in recruiting, according Rivals.com. This year, we're currently # 3, right behind U.S.C. and Ohio State; and it's not over with, for sure. We could end up with the # 1 recruiting class. I would say that we're about 2 years away from being back up there again. It's impossible to be too patient. I believe that was either the first year or 2nd(2005) after Saban left Baton Rouge for Miami. I believe things are gonna get better. Have a blessed day.
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    You just completely ignored what I said and focused on our recruiting...

    Thanks for proving you don't really know what you're talking about...

    I'm glad you're a Tiger Fan, but you posted a heckuva lot of blather about our team to completely ignore a substantitive post from me about what are issues are...

    Makes me think those X's & O's you're talking about are more like a game of Tic-Tac-Toe these days...

    I have PLENTY of patience, when its warranted. I agree that our 2003 QB class was great, but Saban not signing a quarterback in 2004 was idiotic-as Bleed Crimson first pointed out, and I've mentioned on my home site plenty of times.

    In 2005, you can't NOT sign the best player in America if you're Les Miles. We had to take Ryan Perrilloux, and I don't blame Colt McCoy for switching to Texas. It's not every day you can find a quarterback with the character of Matt Flynn, whose willing to sign and play backup behind JaMarcus for 3 years.

    So, in 2004, we signed no one. In 2005, we signed one kid. In 2006, we signed Jarret, and in 2007, we signed Jordan Jefferson...

    When we lost Ryan, that meant that from 2004-2006, LSU didn't sign a quarterback.

    That's the root cause of all of our problems. If nothing else, had we gotten at least a serviceable backup out of those three seasons, we'd have been able to outscore Alabama & Georgia, and we'd be a one loss team looking for a rematch and to muscle our way back into the national title debate...

    Instead, we're 7-3, some of our seniors are p!ssed at Miles for running Ryan off, as he should have (once again proving this man puts character ahead of winning at all costs), and we're taking our lumps with green QB's, spotting teams plenty of points and wins in the process...

    But, there is no excuse, and I have no patience for, the defensive situation...

    Miles gave a loyalty hire to Mallory, and we've paid the price...He promoted him far before he was ready, and even his position-safeties-on this team has been a letdown. We have regressed with Curtis Taylor getting BENCHED.

    The schemes don't disguise coverage. On the surface, the fact that we play man almost exclusively is great. The problem is, the point isn't to out-athlete the other team. The bottom line is that folks will ultimately always have the upper hand on that side of the ball, even against great athletes, because the wideouts and the quarterback KNOW where the ball is going, and we don't.

    Which means you have to do your best to make the quarterback uncomfortable. You do that with pressure, and with disguising coverages. You throw at LEAST a little zone coverage mixed in there and disguise it when you do to throw his timing and read/recognition pace off...

    We don't do it all, and we get TORCHED...Matter of fact, South Carolina is the only team that has NOT scored 20+ points on our defense this year in conference...How terrible is that?

    The thinking behind this scheme stinks, and the athletes are not getting coached up...

    Recruiting is NOT going to fix the nuts and bolts of this defense...NEW THINKING and a FRESH PERSPECTIVE, as well as TEACHING at practice will...
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I appreciate your insight (opinion). But, ya know what they say about opinions, don't ya? If you don't, I'll surely let ya know. Have a blessed day.
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    ...and since I appreciate yours, you tell me which one of our players is underperforming and will be replaced as a starter by our current recruits...

    I'll hang up and listen...
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I don't want to damage our recruiting. But, I will say there is one player's committment that might be very vital to the success of our TEAM in the next year or two. Right now, I see us as two years away from returning to prominence. Both of these players may play a very important role to the ultimate total success of our team too. We've got others. One player won't fix anything; and a quick fix USUALLY doesn't work. As of right now, we're # 3 in recruiting, and I hope to definitely climb to # 1. All things are possible. Be patient. Have a very blessed day. Alabama is # 6 in recruiting.
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    Russell Shepard is an unbelievable talent, and may just be our best recruiter...

    Having said that, Jarret Lee is your starting quarterback next fall...

    Dig it.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I know he's yours and my starting quarterback. In my opinion, I think Lee will be ONE of the best quarterbacks in the nation in a couple of years, if not, next year, contrary to allot of L.S.U. fans' beliefs, I think. That's one place we have to be patient, with Lee, that is. Shepard is the one that I have in mind; if Lee isn't performing Shepard may be an impact freshman to come in make a difference, that's all. Shepard is the # 8 overall recruit and the # 2 QB recruit in the country, and I think we need him to make us better. U.S.C. has the # 1 overall and # 1 QB recruit in the country committed to them. Be patient and and have a blessed day.
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    We're in complete agreement, and my earlier posts regarding this subject split up the offensive and defensive issues on this team.

    It was done so to show you that I am VERY capable of exhibiting patience for situations that are beyond this staff, and our player's control...

    Our Wide Receiver haul this year needs to be what you focus on. Shep is a great talent, but if we can keep Bell here, and bring in Randle, DeBose, & finally get Benton into school, we'll have the best wide receiver group in the nation, with DeAngelo Peterson, Tim Molton, & Toliver & LaFell back from this year...

    Lights out for the SEC...
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    We may have taken the long route. We're finally on the same page. Nevertheless, you're right on (target) here. I wholeheartedly agree with everything that you had to say here. Have a blessed day.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Are you a disgruntled player or coach? I surely hope not. We don't need that as part of our team, and or, fan base. Thinking positive is the only way to be (In the Name of the Lord). If you aren't a coach, maybe you can go in there and correct things. Apply for the job. Be an L.S.U. coach and correct things since you're so L.S.U. educated. If you're a player, I hope things get better for ya and make good grades as a student/athlete, not athlete/student; and if you're a fan, lighten up and have a very blessed day. Be patient because it's impossible to be too patient.
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    So, in other words...

    I just showed that I'm being patient with the offense...

    I just pointed out the specifics with the defense...

    ...I also explained our recruiting and how one player's shooting star meteoric rise, and subsequent flameout, have caused most of our problems this year, even eschewing our defensive woes...

    You, for the 2nd time (or 3rd, since you responded to me twice), have completely ignored the SUBSTANCE of my post to make comments about me personally...

    Glad we know where we both stand, now...
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I just think you should apply for an L.S.U. football coaching job. You're L.S.U. educated; aren't you? And you care about The Tigers; don't you? It sounds like you are; and I care about their success also. It just sounds like you would improve L.S.U's football team; and; to make a long story short, that's what both of us want, isn't it? L.S.U. to be # 1 again!!! I do. Have a very blessed day.
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    So, we've come full circle...

    Some folks have a basic knowledge of what they see beyond, "This feller's open when that feller threw the ball. Must be BAD DEFENSE!"

    I cannot teach technique. I've never worked with a player one-on-one...Never recruited a day in my life. Never helped put together a gameplan...

    But, I can read a coverage based on where the safety & the corner line up. That's not difficult.

    Reading zone or press man based on the corner's isn't some highly technical thing. You just have to have someone show you the differences in spacing and scheme.

    That doesn't mean I should coach.

    It also means that I'm not blind...and I can see a problem...

    You've gone from rambling towards other fans with nary an ounce of nuts and bolts to back you up, to personally taking shots at me saying I should be a coach, to trying to find common ground...

    Whatever makes you happy, DV56...
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I just thought you knew more than you actually admit to knowing, that's all; and I wanted to acknowledge you for knowing your stuff. Have a blessed day; and please read the book of John. Start with the Book of John, anyway.
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    Get. The. Last. Word...
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I'm fixin' to get The. Last. Word. and Final. Word. I'm headed to the Lord's Supper. Bye. Have a blessed day (night).
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Now, if you're not gonna apply for the coaching job at L.S.U. Always, remember this. It takes one to know one ..... concerning it proves that I really don't know what I'm talking about. Have a very blessed day.
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    It's ironic that as soon as someone starts talking about X's & O's, you start talking in circles and asking if they're a disgruntled player or coach...

    I love LSU. I'm a season ticket holder in football, I belong to a booster group here in Baton Rouge, and I also hold season tix in Hoops, as of this year, as well...

    Loving LSU does not mean I suddenly watch a different football team.

    I think Alabama's a paper tiger. I think Florida's the most complete teamin America. I think the Big XII doesn't play any defense, but its because nobody's figured out a way to defend the Spread adequately, regardless of the athletes you recruit, and those teams there have recruited with the elites. The system there works as those coaches naturally intended it to, and the results are telling.

    What I am not is some pollyana...I call it like I see it...Your lack of history here would show that I have castigated and ostracized every single member here when we won, and even talked sh!t when we lost...It's because I LOVE LSU, no matter what...

    Part of loving them is recognizing and pointing out when the kids who represent my school aren't being done right. Or that folks whose salaries I pay aren't doing right by me or those players or my school. If they aren't performing, I expect to have that remedied, with the extreme prejudice.

    Being a fan isn't always about daffodills and babbling brooks and blue skies...It's about lauding coaches for all they've done (and Miles has done lots), and pointing out when their mistakes...
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    TE I applause yo uon your efforts to make sence of DV56 but i do think its a lost cause.And dont forget read the book of John and have a blessed day.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I would rather be an underdog. I'll be there to watch my underdogs play their little hearts out. B'y the way, they were toying with Troy; and that was the largest comeback in Tiger history. After losing ...... not Alabama winning, they were still mopin', that's all. They just decided to have the character that I knew they had all alone .......... playing with Tiger pride .......... and makin' the largest comeback in L.S.U. Tiger history.
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    Deathvalley56: We have the same love for our Tigers but I've got news for you....LSU wasn't "toying" with Troy. They came out flat, lack-a-daisical, and mistake-prone. The defense was back on it's heels for 3 1/2 quarters. Fortunately for us, they finally got fired up, never gave up hope and Jarrett "Stagger" Lee started getting a little confidence. The coaches used a very vanilla approach with him in the first half to help get that confidence going but found out, after being down 31-3, that it's time to let him make it or break it. And make it he did, going 18 for 25 in the second half.

    You are right on one point, it was/is the biggest comeback in the schools history.


    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I know a heck allot about L.S.U. football. I've been a fan ever since Bert Jone and his cousin, Andy Hamilton played for them back in 1970. Bert was 4th in the Heisman that year.
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    Questioning your fandom, if you will, was never the issue here. I'm nearly 40 now, though I refuse to act it, and as long as I've known my Dad, I was raised on LSU. Those are all mute points though.

    The point was and still is, that you saying LSU was "toying" with Troy is utter bullsh_t. Whether or not you choose to admit that fact is up to you. Even that little white speck on top of chicken sh_t is still considered chicken sh_t. So no matter how much you turn it around, it is still what it is.....LSU was dominated for 3 1/2 quarters. Like it or not, that is a fact. And I don't care if you were sitting in the stadium or on your favorite Barca-lounger, it changes nothing.

    Again, we're on the same side man. Just don't go around spreading that crap and giving the rest of us knowledgeable fans a bad rap.

    Peace

    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Hey GT 0107 got to admit ole DV 56 is purty funny
    Good comic relief
    Both LSU & Ole Miss shoulda beat Bama IMHO
    Yall got the Rebs at home- ought to be a good one
    I'm kinda pullin for the Rebs- no dog in the fight other than I like Nutt and I've been to Oxford great place
    Adios Tomcat
    P.S. A Tiger fan that can distort reality to fit his bias opinions- kinda like BC does with Bama- purty funny Bo
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    I hear ya Tom. I've never had anything against Ole Piss either. There's supposed to be some kind of rivalry there, but I don't see it.

    With that said, I've gotta say that I have respect for the way those guys have played this year. Ole Nutt is making the best of the hand he was dealt and that in itself is pretty impressive. If we come out vs Ole Piss the way we came out against Troy, we lose. Period.

    But yeah man....DV 56 has his heart in the right place. It's just shrouded in fan bias. I hate to fault that but I gotta call a spade a spade. Bottom line is our team is a notch above mediocre at this point. Some will disagree, but that is my stance. Comparo to BC is spot on.

    Good luck in your guys game this weekend.


    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Don't ya think it could've been a couple of factors why L.S.U. played so badly the first 3 quarters. # 1 Emotionally devastated losing to # 1 Alabama in OVERTIME # 2 Lookin' ahead to Ole Miss, a conference (arch rivalry going back to the Billy Cannon days). L.S.U and Ole Miss could be fightin for a birth in the Cotton Bowl (Probably the winner of this game will be in the Cotton Bowl; L.S.U. is anyway); and just maybe L.S.U. was probably overlooking Troy (For 3 quarters too; almost too late) thinking they were gonna win easily, despite just beating them 24-20 in 2004 by the skin of their chinny chin chin. These players weren't even on that team on that 2004 team that played Troy, unless they're 5th year seniors like Matt Flynn was last year. I don't think that they have any impact 5 year seniors, or if they have any at all this year, for that matter. So, they had no idea just how dangerous overlooking Troy could be. They found out in just the nick (pun unintended; we have no Nick, of course) of time. Well anyway, I look at the glass as being 1/2 full, not half empty. Being positive is much less stressful, don't ya think? Ole Miss is a very dangerous team, especially if they play the way they played against Florida. God bless you.
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    Hey deathvalley, I think you may have broke the record for the most post's in one day, BTW, you don't happen to live in Austin Texas, do you ????
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the compliment. I enjoy the smack. But, don't let it get to me. I've been an L.S.U. die hard fan for almost 40 years, 38 to be exact (Since I was 14, my first year of playing football myself). In my six years of playing from 7th grade through 12th grade, I don't remember but losing 4 or 5 games; and one of those losses was to the same team that was twice as big as us in the 7th grade. Well anyway, I'm a loyal L.S.U. football who knows football very well (the X's and the O's). People always said I should have been either a coach or a preacher.
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    You and TE should get together, another LSU fan, he not only knows the X's and O's, but also the A's thru the Z's......He is one heck of an Author........at least I understand most of what you post....:-)
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Gettin' together with whoever TE would be nice.

    But, when I speak of X's and O's, that's the way a coach would draw it up on the chalk board (blackboard). The way we did it was the offense was the O's and the defense was the X's; and the coach would draw up plays, and or, offensive and defesive adjustments at halftime. Before and after practice, he would also do this to make sure that the whole team was on the same page; and we all (the whole team) better be on the same page as the coach, that's for sure.
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    Is there other ways to use the X's and O's in relation to football.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Either, ya really don't know anything about football, or you're makin' fun of me. Nevertheless, I'll look to the positive side of things. Therefore, I'm not aware of any other ways, as an X high school football jock and student of the game. Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!!
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    Hey Ron Looks Like TE and DV56 met .Could DV56 be the LSU version of BC
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    Ding ding ding! We may have a winner! 37 so far! I'm not sure who's record got broken though. Maybe Lennie Collins'?

    The prize for breaking the record is two VIP tickets to this year's Independence Bowl in beautiful Shreveport, LA. We can either Fedex you the tickets or you can go by next month and pick them up at the stadium...

    With an upset next week at Tuscaloosa, I fully expect Auburn to be one of the participants...
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I would love Auburn to beat Alabama. That would make Bama have their 1st of 2 losses. There next loss will come Dec.6th in the S.E.C Championship game. Dog gone ...... I would hate to win ........ just to lose my last 2 games. Poor Alabama .............. Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!! L.S.U, that is!!!!! But, in this case, I'm pullin' for the Auburn Tigers kick some 'Bama a......s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    GT 0107
    Look Troy is a good team and I always liked those guys, but look thats the same Troy team that got blowed away by Ok St Cowboys. That same Ok state team that whuped Houston and beat Missu only to fall to Texas Tech.
    Looks like Texas Tech vs OU is realy the big one this week.
    The Horns have an open date prior to the A&M slaughter
    Wont see any football this weekend- going up to Junction on a TPWD deer hunt with my son, camping in the hill country.
    I like DV 56 hes good people
    Save a jar of that jungle juice
    Adios Tomcat
    Hookem-Horns
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    Right on TC. I agree with ya all the way. Troy never gets overlooked by LSU, at least I hope not, for the very same reason DV mentioned. I think they only have 2 losses, maybe 3 now, and all have been to ranked opponents.

    Good luck on the deer hunt with the lil guy. Enjoy that quality time. I'm looking to get in the woods next week after Thanksgiving and drinking a few....er, uh....shooting a few bambis. Should be blast, as always.

    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    GT 0107 I know Kev wants us to stay on topic, but Ive been hunting a scrape that I found thurs and friday didnt see anything- went to the football game Saturday, went out to the same place Sunday and found the Buck I was hunting- not 20 ft from were I I've been sitting- dead-the land owners little nephew 13 yr old went hunting in my spot Sat shot the thing and I found it Sunday.
    Took three of us to load him up in the truck heavy- big buck- Oh well- its early yet
    The thing we are going on this weekend is on a state wildlife mangement area- we got drawn- bout time after about 18 years of applications
    This is west of San Antonio-we are allowed 1 good one and 1 cull- no drinking-not your regular hunting camp- game warden takes us out on thousands of acres- my son has a decent chance of really getting a good one.
    Adios Tomcat
  • Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago
    Congrats. Nice haul.
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    Cat, doesn't that make you sick? The same thing happened to me year before last.

    I hunt in Amite Louisiana on a friends 900+ acres. He has 12 stands set up and only invites 3-4 close friends. No charge. I"m lucky enough to be one of the 3 or 4 he invites regularly.

    Anyway....
    The trail cam pics showed a sweet 8pt migrating down to a creek bottom regularly in the pm. I hunted it religiously for 3 weeks and never got a glimpse of him, but the trail cam pics and tracks were enough evidence.

    Sure enough, the one week after I had to go back offshore, the buck was dropped by another guest who decided to hunt my stand out of shere luck. He didn't know about the pics but saw the tracks when scouting and killed my buck....lol. I nearly wanted to cry but whatcha gonna do? He dropped him 75yds out of the left window of the box stand.

    Good luck in the Mgmt area. You can find some nice racks in there. The hard part is getting picked to hunt it and you've got that so you're halfway there.

    Back on topic:
    What's the thread about again?

    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Geaux Tigers0107
    Alot of times I've sat at the truck listening to some of the greatest comefrom behind Longhorn victories on the radio while the others at the camp sat around the campfire telling stories. Then some years its lets hurry up and skin these things before the Liquor store closes. Then there was the time I got to go to Rock Springs Texas on El Perdido Ranch and only had three shells.
    .300 Sav hard to find in the middle of nowhere 30/30. .243, .270 ,30-06 etc or your outa ammo.
    Check out www.loscazadores.com
    click on contest leaderboard
    Good Luck
    Adios Tomcat
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    OMG!!! I wouldn't know how to act if even a 160 class B&C walked out on me, much less the ones I saw on there.

    You up there anywhere?

    I shoot an old Model 70 300 Win Mag. Got a killer deal on it and couldn't pass it up for 250 smackers. One of these days, I wanna get me a guided hunt on one of those ranches. Just can't decide on which one. Kansas has always been high on my list but you really don't have to go that far to kill a wall hanger.

    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    I cannot afford to go on any guided deals, I'm just an opportunist, tagg along with friends etc etc. I hunt around here locally and the best I got is 142 BC nice big ten, but I wasnt really hunting, just checkin cows. I used to shoot a few purty good ones behind my Dads bar bout 5 miles away.Right now I'm hunting bout 3 miles away and theres quite a few, I see deer on a daily basis, sometimes more than others. Most of those big ones are south and west of San Antonio. You can also check out the Texas Big Game awards our county sherrif got a 153 purty good for around here.
    I shoot an old model 99 .300 Savage lever action, but I put it in the house a few days ago, I think I must have bumped it a little or something- missed a coyote- and the last time I fired it I hit a hog in the eye.We have way to many hogs around here and I waste alot of shells on them and they eat alot of feed/corn etc.
    I bought my son a .243 Savage a couple of years ago and that thing is really nice-accutrigger 3-9 scope- no recoil 3 shots- 3 deer
    Place we are going is 120 miles west of San Antonio- real rugged rocky hilly country- good luck
    Adios Tomcat
    P.S. you cant eat those horns and I like to make sausage
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    TC, here's an invitation for you, I'll take you to a spot in western Oklahoma where you don't have to hunt'em, they just show up about 30 min before sundown and you take your pick....heated blind about 15 ft in the air with a recliner, river bottom land with plenty of open shooting lanes....I found this to be more comfortable than sitting in a tree stand in 20 degree weather...I did plenty of that in my younger days....besides it's harder to climb trees now day's :-).....all it will cost you is your out of state license and tag's.....one more thing, wear bright orange and not burnt, people around here take target practice at burnt orange...
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Thanks Ron
    We have some bright orange- I'll holler at ya
    when we get back
    Leaving Friday morn as soon as I get my Chev out of the shop back late Sun Nite
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I've already told you toying with Troy was not what I really meant. I think that they played the 4th quarter the way that I know they can play (the whole 60 minutes too). They showed allot of character to come back after a devastating loss (In OVERTIME to # 1, Alabama). I believe that they were still down (emotionally) from that devastating loss to Alabama in OVERTIME. I would be down also. It was heart breaking, to say the least, when you had the # 1 team on the ropes the week before; and to let it slip away from you. I'm just glad that they (L.S.U.) decided stop mulling around (still having that pitty party as a team) by the end of the 3rd quarter. It was almost too late to finally get motivated to pull it out. I know that they didn't do it on purpose too, I guarantee ya that. I do feel like, as a team, they were still feeling sorry for themselves and they played the 4th quarter the way they are capable of (playing the whole game too). They may have found some identity of who and just how good they can be. I hope so anyway. But, they were not toying with Troy. Hey ...... It just rhymed ....... Lighten up ......... There's no room for bad language either; and by the way, L.S.U. wasn't dominated for 3 1/2 quarters (Rather, it was almost 3 quarters). L.S.U. just dominated the last 17 minutes against who happened to be the co-leaders of the Sun Belt Conference (Certainly not the S.E.C., but they were emotionally drained from the Alabama game. I would be too. Hey, I'm on your side, man. L.S.U. fans should never fight amongst themselves. Death Valley is where an L.S.U. fan can be among 92,400 of their closest friends. Congratulations, good luck, and have a safe trip wherever you may go (I hope to Death Valley to see the Tigers play; It's worth it). God bless.
  • Rich · 1 year ago
    Troy is a damn good football team. In 06 they nearly toppled LSU, last year they put 31 points on Florida's starters, they were within a touchdown in the fourth quarter against Georgia, blew out Oklahoma State, and this year it was 14 to 10 in the fourth quarter before Ohio State finally pulled away.

    Troy is a damn good team, and LSU wasn't hitting on all cylinders early and paid the price dearly. If the Troy receivers didn't have so many drops on the 4th, Troy would have won. Levi Brown is twice the QB Lee is.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I agree with you that Troy is a very good football team; and I thought that was '04 that they nearly beat us (24-20?). I don't know the facts about all those other scores. But, if it's accurate, I totally agree with you. I know L.S.U. wasn't hitting on all cylinders. I think Alabama (losing in overtime) and looking forward to Ole Miss might have played a role in that, though. But, I do think L.S.U.'s defensive backs had something to do with distracting the receivers. They were more closely covered and ready to make a hit on them when they caught it. That might make one miss a pass, getting hit as the ball got there, don't ya think? I also think Levi Brown is twice the quarterback Lee is right now. But, I believe Lee is gonna be one of the best once he settles down (maybe next year or the next). But, we have another quarterback (# 8 overall in the country too) coming in as a freshman in 2009 that could be an impact player right out of the starting gate. Depth is very important to winning the National Championship; and I believe we (L.S.U.) will be back there within the next couple of years too. Therefore, having Lee there is very important too. He's gonna ge good; not yet; but he's gonna be.
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    We're all good DV56. No worries. I just disagreed when you said we were toying with Troy, that's all. Didnt catch the part where you said that's not what you meant. When you say "LSU was toying with Troy"...that's exactly how I took it.

    Anyway, they could've been hung over from the Bama loss but I don't blame it on that. I blame it on the coaches dumbing down the offense the give Stagger Lee time to find his rythme. Les even said as much in his Sunday night show. So honestly, I'm just paraphrasing him.

    And this isn't fighting either....lol. Just a minor debate. Nothing personal at all my friend.

    I do, however, like the name Ole Piss.

    Welcome to Fanblogs.

    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    It's all good; no worries with me either. Alabama fans are so cocky right now that I just ddn't say what I meant. However, I still think the hangover is part of the reason (just my opinion), plus it being a non-conference team, such as Troy, and lookin' ahead to one of their all time arch rivals, the Ole Miss Rebels, who happens to be the only team that's beaten Florida; and we lost to them by 30, 51-21. That, all by itself, would take my mind off the present and look forward to the future (the Ole Miss game). It's hard to concentrate on the present when one is dwelling on or thinking about the future, and at the same time, hurting because of that overtime loss to Alabama took awhile for the team to get a hold of themselves. They didn't trail Troy on purpose. I believe it was a combination of a number of things (Mostly what I've mentioned). If we would have won (beaten Alabama), Auburn could beat Alabama November 29th (I believe that's the date) and we would be in the championship game against Flrorida. We were that close, in my opinion. When Auburn and Alabama play, anything can happen too. We've (L.S.U. has) backed into the championship that way before, by the way, either by Auburn beating Alabama or visa versa in the past. I look at the glass half full, not half empty. All things are possible; but not now however. I think it's highly impobable that Alabama will beat Florida on potential alone. Florida has more talent (more depth too). However, with emotions in the mix, anything is possible; and in that case Florida better be equal emotionally to be ready to be able to beat them as I expect them to be ready for the task. Football is 90% mentally and 10% physically. Florida has been making that total equal 100% ever since the Ole MIss game.
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    GT0107:

    Your right. The place was half empty after halftime. People were driving home when they heard the comeback mounting. I think they all turned around and got back into their seats. The place was back to being full in the 4th quarter. All those folks thought it was over. I don't think that they were leaving because it looked like the Cats were "toyin' with them". It was one of the greatest comebacks I've ever seen. Just prior to that, LSU was playing about as poorly, as any team could possibly play. I know that you guys wish that this Jarrett Lee would just find a "middle-of-the-road" somewhere and just stay there. There is just too many peeks and valley's with this guy. Hopefully, eventually, he plays with the greatness that he has exibited on a much more consitent basis. Jarrett Lee has alot to do with why LSU is all over the place right now. That's gonna end eventually.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I'm sure we will be. I just hope your Ole Miss Rebels don't beat us too bad. We had trouble with Troy. Can you believe that? Have a blessed day, Hotty_Toddy.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    If Alabama is # 1, L.S.U. should be in the top ten. We lost to them in overtime. And we lost. That's right ...... L.O.S.T. Alabama cerftainly didn't win. Interceptions by a young quarterback ...... like John Parker Wilson used to do his 1st THREE years .....is the only reason we lost too. L.S.U. total yards - 382 ......... Alabama 355. That's pretty even. But, just to play the supposedly # 1 team close, either makes L.S.U. better or Alabama a little worse ....... say between #3 and # 5. We fell to # 20. That doesn't make any sense if we lost to the # 1 team in the country. Unfortunately, we lost to Florida 51 - 21 (After the Ole Miss game; Check all Florida's scores ..... before and after the Ole MIss Game; You'll see a difference ... I do believe).
  • Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago
    You lost because you got beat. Alabama isn't doing anything fancy, they're just getting the job done. Your quarterback is consistently inconsistent. You're not in the top 10 because both Georgia and Florida hung half a hundred on you, one of them at Death Valley. And you only have four away games. I'd feel like I got my money's worth if I was an LSU season ticket holder.
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    You have lost 3 games and had to come back and score 30 points in the fourth to win against Troy.That is why your not in the top10.how is Alabama's win over LSU any different than LSU's win over Alabama last year.people say ALABAMA fans a delusional dude your pic should be next to the definition in Webster's
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Alabama sucks ........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • The_Observer · 1 year ago
    It looks like you've run out of thing to say. Maybe you should space out your posts so you have time to reload your thoughts.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    You're being funny now; and, No ....... I haven't run out of things to say.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    You have lost 3 games, and almost lost to troy. Just ride this one out deathvalley. You do not deserve to be in the top 10. Not even close. Your starting to sound like a spoiled T-shirt fan.................
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I think it'll be Tech and Florida in the National Championship Game. But, defense wins games. So, I think Flrorida will win the National Championship ........ and I don't like Florida very much. But, I know football ....... especially, college football. God bless you
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    That's right, but that young (freshman) quarterback will mature; and I believe he'll be one of the best. However, the difference in this game (statistics all even) was his pick 6. We wouldn't have had to go into overtime if he wouldn't have had that pick six. I was there too; and I witnessed L.S.U. winning everywhere, but on the scoreboard and completion to interception ratio.
  • Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago
    LOL oh yeah... i'm sure the Tiger faithful were saying at halftime when they were down 31-3, "Haha, this is great... i'm so glad ol' Les has decided to break another record tonight with the greatest LSU comeback ever. Those poor Trojans."
  • Bama_Babe · 1 year ago
    You mean the 50 Tiger faithful that were still in the stadium at halftime...??

    ;)
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    BB, it was around 30,000 by all accounts but point taken.

    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Over 2/3 left then. I was one of the 30,000. I'm proud of that and I was also very proud of the for stop mulling around (Pitty party). They were flat because of the devastating overtime loss to Alabama; and they pulled out a miracle in just a little over a quarter (17 minutes).
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    we had 3 turnovers in that game too we went down feild on our first drive and fumbled out of the end zone. if we didnt their wouldnt have been ot either.if if if
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Against Georgia, our young quarterback (freshman) had 3 interceptions that cost us 17 points, one leading to a field goal and the other 2 were pick 6's; and we've beaten Alabama the last 5 years until this year when we gave it to Alabama on a silver platter. I believe last year Alabama lost to University of Louisiana Monroe. If we lost to them, L.S.U. would quit football. Since Troy is in Alabama, isn't the U.L.M. game similar the Troy game, even though Troy is probably much better in comparison & they are co-leaders of the Sun Belt Conference. I can't say the same about that tiny team from Monroe, Louisiana. I don't believe University of Louisiana at Monroe were co-leaders of anything. They've pretty much always been weak, except when they were in the Gulf South Conference ages ago.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    No ...... I wouldn't say that. Most of the Tiger faithful left at halftime, or shortly thereafter (Not me, however). And my faith is not in L.S.U. or Les Miles. It's in Jesus Christ. I wasn't praying for L.S.U. to miraculously comeback either. God doesn't take sides. Les and the L.S.U. Tigers just showed me tremendous character in not givin' up after a heart breakin' lost to the team that I think should be ranked no better than # 3 to # 5, Alabama.
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    there is a big difference between Alabama 2007 and 2008 just ask every one we have played 11-0 you cant argue with the numbers on this. we are undefeated.and as for the 5 in a row how many came over a Alabama team on probation. two years later were undefeated.now I'm going to say this but your NC last year means nothing this year and the two you have won mean nothing now either just like Alabamas NCs mean nothing now they are something to be proud of but they don't mean a thing in relevance to the current season.and if you didnt throw the 2 pick six against georiga you still lose the game.
  • Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago
    Last year's NC, or an NC 30 years ago doesn't count for anything the next season. Its all about the present season. What are -you- gonna do with the "now." You were the best last season, but you're not this season. LSU doesn't deserve to be in the top 10. After this Saturday, if the Rebels can pull a win out of Death Valley, they probably don't deserve to be in the top 25.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Thats up for debate as to who was the best last season
    They happened to play in the MNC game and win against the B10/11 champ
    doesnt really mean they were the best IMHO
    Right now this season The Texas Longhorns are the best and can beat anybody including a rematch against Texas Tech. They may not get a shot at it though with the current BCS=BS system that exist.
    Our new Pres-Elect wants a 8 team playoff- I have to agree
    If OU beats TTech- probable then OU will jump Texas for the winner of the south and face Missu- Two Teams that lost to Texas in the B-12 game- huge cluster-F
    If Fla beats Bama
    Then we will have
    1 loss Tex
    1 loss Fla
    1 loss OU
    1 loss Bama
    1 loss TTech
    1 loss PSU
    1 loss USC
    0 loss Utah
    Bois st-- forget it- ya yall beat OU in 06-so what- so did the Longhorns 38-21
    Hookem-Horns
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    GO REBS
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    GO AUBURN !!! ROLL THAT TIDE UP AND FLUSH IT!!

    Geaux Tigers
    La and Ala.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    If L.S.U. beats Ole Miss, L.S.U. deserves to be # 1. Afterall, they'll be beating the only team in the nation that beat this year's National Champion, Florida. Florida will beat Florida State, take care of business against Alabama, and then beat either Texas Tech or Oklahoma. So, if we can somehow win this game against Ole MIss, we should be # 1, not Alabama because we would've beaten the only team that beat this year's national champion (2008).
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    you make no sense
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Thats purty funny right there- dang roll another one
    Doesnt sound like you are too confident
    News flash- The Baylor Bears offense would light yall up 4-7 team from B-12 south Americas toughest division in Americas toughest conference, yall just need to get a Texas QB like Ole Miss,UGa,Texas,Texas Tech, Houston,Utah,Missu,KU and Baylor
    Hope we get yall in a Bowl
    Hookem-Horns
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    we got one he is a sophmore back up (mcElroy) Starred for national high school power Southlake Carroll High School in Texas ... took over as a starter in his senior season after playing behind Chase Daniel, the 2004 National High School Player of the Year who went on to star at Missouri ... racked up 4,687 yards with 56 touchdowns and only nine interceptions in his one year as a starter ... the 56 touchdowns set a new Texas high school record ... led his team to the Texas Class 5A state title, the team's third in four seasons, and a mythical high school national championship in 2005 ... named Offensive Player of the Year in Texas ... completed 321-of-450 pass attempts and ran for over 700 yards and 12 touchdowns as a senior ... completed 21-of-31 passes for 328 yards and four touchdowns en route to MVP honors in the state championship win over Katy ...
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Rolltide-73 My response was to the Tiger-fan-
    Glad yall got McElroy-heck of a player- played for coach Todd Dodge former Longhorn QB who is now HC at N Tex
    I witnessed a Bad-A true fresh QB this weekend at Waco Texas-Robert Griffin
    He played for Coppras Cove H/S My cousin has coached against him at Harker Hights H/S- BTW my cousin played for A&M and coach RC. The Bears whooped A&M and had them down 41-7 at the end of the 3rd.
    He has state H/S records in huddles and is Olympic caliber athelette, will probably get a Heisman or Davy Obrein before its all said and done.
    He is a true dual threat QB with amazing speed and accuaracy- kinda reminds me of that guy that used to play for Houston Madison H/S.
    I'm glad that LSU got RP instead of UT, at a place like UT alot of guys go elsewhere so they can get some playing time like Snead,and Daniel.
    Good luck in the future
    I would love to see a Texas vs Bama bowl game
    Hookem-Horns
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    sorry about that some times its hard to tell who is talking to who.I think McElroy will be the starter next year he has done well as a back up. though he hasnt got to play as often as I would have liked.
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    C'mon man. Please don't tell me you honestly believe that. Please...............


    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago
    Wake Forest, Vanderbilt, Alabama, and South Carolina all beat Ole Miss. So, I'd have to say that it's VERY obvious that Wake Forest should be # 1.

    By the way, I'd like to have the phone number of your dealer. That must be some killer stuff you're getting.
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    LMMFAO!! Joe.....you're supposed to play nice man....lol. Thanks for the laugh though. I needed it. For a while there, I kinda felt like I was on an island trying to convince my friend DV56 what the deal was.

    And the latest on the "lemonade" from NC is looking pretty damn good. We're up to 2 cases now, as word of the goodness gets around to close friends.

    Plane tickets are locked. Flying to Charleston on the 13th of Jan. Landing at 10:46am. Then it's on like Donkey Kong.

    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago
    Sounds great. I might get down there that day for a beer and a jar of lemonade if possible. I'd certainly love to, but I'll have to tweak the old schedule a bit to do it. I'll let you know for sure.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Florida is presently the best team in the nation, guranteed.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    They aint played Texas,Texas Tech,Oklahoma State, Missu,KU or Oklahoma
    They couldnt stop Ole Miss at Home- how in the H-ll would they stop teams that actually have explosive offensive attacks- you know teams were the QB actually hits their receivers.
    Hookem-Horns
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    After they beat Florida State and Alabama (For the S.E.C. Championship), they'll beat either Texas Tech or Oklahoma for the National Championship unless they don't play the way they're capable; or the way they've been playing ever since the Ole Miss game.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    Why even play the games deathvalley? Why don't you just hand Florida the trophy. I guarantee you if your Tigers were going to play the gators for the chance at a N.C. you would feel a little different about the gators. You dissapoint me beyond belief. Remember this deathvalley. The best team always wins, that is why they play the game.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    The reason Alabama has fallen apart in the second half is because of their depth. They fell apart against Georgia and Ole Miss; and L.S.U. gave Alabama the game on a silver platter in the form of interceptions by a freshman quarterback (Just like John Parker Wilson did for 2 or 3 years). John Parker Wilson was like a freshman for 2 or 3 years.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Lee won't be like John Parker Wilson for so long because he's better than John Parker Wilson. Lee will be a good one. When he's been brilliant, he's been really brilliant. But, when he's been bad, he's been like John Parker Wilson was for 2 or 3 years.
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    are you responding to yourself now
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    DV 56:

    With all due respect, G'Lee sucks out loud. Youth mitigates under performance, the occasional mistake, not so good pocket presence, things like that. Hitting LB's square in the #'s repeatedly, giving up pick 6's like they're advertising brochures, and otherwise failing to demonstrate even the most rudamentary understanding of the game...tells me LSU is in the market for a new QB. Stop kidding yourself; he is not your future...he is the reason LSU's present looks so bleak.

    ...and before you ask, Chris Leak and Tim Tebow, and before them, Rex Grossman--all, looked MUCH better as freshmen than Lee. In Leak's case, the greatest thing I remember thinking about him as a starting F'man: he didn't throw games away. Seriously; some of his best work as a f'man was simply throwing the f'n ball out of bounds, instead of taking a sack, or throwing a pick.

    How grateful would you be, if you could say the same bout Lee?

    How much different might LSU's season look right now, if you could say that?

    I'll leave it at that...


    GO GATORS!!
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    But, when Lee hits them square the #'s, that's just Lee being a freshman, or should I say, 'that's Lee being a John Parker Wilson' (For his 1st 2 or 3 years anyway); and speaking of quarterbacks, we've got a committment from the 8th best (overall; and # 2 QB) in the country. He's picked the best place to play in college football, that being Death Valley, Baton Rouge, La. We'll surely have depth at QB because of our great recruiting class; and Lee will mature. Like MIles, I see something in him that even allot of L.S.U. fans don't see in him. L.S.U. fans are very impatient. It's impossible to be too patient. But, it'll be great to know that we've now got someone that can come in at any paticular moment to beat Bama in Tuscaloosa next year and Flrorida in Death Valley.

    By the way, those quarterbacks that you mentioned did look good. But, not all quarterbacks, such as John Parker Wilson and Lee mature as quickly; and that's okay. L.S.U. will be back with a vengence, I guarantee it. Death Valley is the best place to play and watch one's college football team on a Saturday night. There's no other place in the country that remotely compares to the best college football atmosphere in the land. As for Lee, he's is young and he's playing like he's young. As for Leak and the others, they were few and far between. At least, I'm truthful and realistic because you know I'm telling the truth of how it really is.
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    I respect your loyalty. I still think Lee will be relegated to mop up duties, as soon as LSU identfies its true starter...and the only other point I have to take exception with, is DV being the best place to play cfb. Naturally I favor the Swamp....

    ...as do oh-so-many recruits!


    GO GATORS!!
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    b/t/w: "...you know I'm telling the truth of how it really is..."

    Actually, I don't know--in fact, I'm not even sure what that comment relates to; care to elaborate?


    GO GATORS!!
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    TG, good post.

    On a positive note regarding Stagger Lee, he finally threw a ball away Saturday night instead of trying to be Brett Favre. That's the first one I can remember him throwing away all year.

    So it is improvement. There's still alot more that needs to be made though.


    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    That's promising....but if you step back and look at the big pic, you know RP was the man going in, and GL is a patch. That's no sleight at all to LSU (see above, my post to RT 73 re. Tebow; if we lost Tebow, we'd be similarly screwed). That's simply acknowledging that LSU deserves better than a 2nd rate qb; and Lee, IMO, is 2nd rate.

    As for comps with RPW--maybe I wasn't paying enough attention to bama, but I don't remember him being near the santa clause this guy has been this year.

    Maybe I'm wrong...


    GO GATORS!!
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    Well I think your abbreviations are asckew a bit my Gator friend, but my deciphering skills are up to the challenge.

    RP was definitely the annoited one but that, as we all know, is history. Imagine, if you will, Chris Leak's SR season. Tebow is doing his best Ryan Perriloux impersonation and Chris has no choice but to graduate. Timothy keeps pushing the envelope. Finally Coach Meyers has to pull the chord....that's it........it's over..........and who's playing 3rd sting again??? Well he's your new starter..lol. So assuming GL is supposed to be "JL" (Jarrett Lee), I somewhat agree but wouldn't necessarily call him a patch. He is the next guy in line, as the progressions go. The problem comes in realizing where he's at in his skill set. And, unfortunately, the prognosis is not good.

    And I will have to agree that comparisons with RPW (I'm assuming this to be JPW-John Parker Wilson) are accurate. I also don't remember J-Sarah Jessica-PW being this bad, but an investigation into the actual numbers may show different. It just doesn't "seem" as bad now as it was with JSJPW.

    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    JPW was very inconsistent when he was on he was good when he was off he was OFF.That has been the biggest difference for him this year. he has been consistant not alot of mistakes.
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    GT-0107:

    Yeah, looks like my abbreviations were all over the place...fine decoding skills...

    My reference to JL as a patch wasn't intended as a jab--though I do think very little of him as a qb based on what I've seen....but I'd say the same if Tebow went down, and we had to go with Cam Newton or John Brantley--and both of those guys are excellent PROSPECTS. The point--which you touched on--is that going into the season, the system has been expressly conformed to fit Tim Tebow. If he goes down after the system is in place--kind of like RP so close to the begining of the season--the next guy in line is essentially a patch---someone who covers the hole, but clearly wasn't designed to fit the fabric (or vice versa)--and therefore doesn't mesh.

    ....carrying the analogy one step further....when you have a patch in place, it's best to at least try to divert stress away from it (i.e.--don't rely on it)--since the seams are more vulnerable. So basically, once the coaches realized RP would not be their qb, the game plan should have taken the patchwork into account, and diverted stress away from the qb--focusing more on the run, employing more quick outs, fade routes (safer passes)etc.--little things designed to minimize reliance on the qb.

    ...but that's going a bit astray....I'll defer to TE's anaylsis of your coaching.



    GO GATORS!!
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    He's gettin' better .......and I think it will continue to improve ..... maybe not as fast as some L.S.U. fans would like. It's impossible to be too patient.
  • Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago
    Here we come, Cotton Bowl.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I know they weren't really toying with Troy. I believe they had a let down from the Alabama overtime loss and it finally sunk in. We can't let Troy beat us in ou house; and they proved it. it wasn't an intentional comeback record. It just happened; and L.S.U. showed some character.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Troy is not a bad team that we came back against by the way. I know the Sun Belt Conference is not the S.E.C. But, Troy is the Co-Leader of that conference; and we put up 37 points after being flat for 43 minutes; right after a devastating OVERTIME loss to the supposedly #1 team in the country, Alabama too.
  • Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago
    No matter how you slice and dice it, there's still an "L" on your schedule next to Alabama.
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    Can I get a AMEN
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I agree the Swamp is up there, maybe in the top 5, could even be # 2 place to play a college football game. Even during the 90's when L.S.U. went 2-9 and 3-8, ESPN voted Death Valley as the most feared place for a visitor to come in and play. That's not me. That's ESPN! As for recruits, and as of today. L.S.U. is # 3 in recruiting, only behind U.S.C. and Ohio State. Florida is somewhere down the list. Oh yeah ....... in 2005, we were # 22 in recruiting. That would make those recruits seniors this year, I believe. Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    You don't even have the correct spelling of since. You better go back to school, not L.S.U. L.S.U. wouldn't accept you. You don't meet the standards (criteria).
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    LMAO! I had to scroll through much of your sililoquy to determine what the hell that "...spelling of since..." was directed to. Here's the closest I could come up with:

    "...you make no sense..." by RollTide 73.

    Followed by your little gem:

    "...You don't even have the correct spelling of since. You better go back to school, not L.S.U. L.S.U. wouldn't accept you. You don't meet the standards (criteria)...."

    That is perhaps the signle funniest combination of posts ever!

    Suggestion: You may want to consider employing the "edit" feature--for the good of LSU.

    Hell, maybe a new handle is in order...

    ...and please, by all means, correct me if I have this wrong...

    GO GATORS!!
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Considering how you spelled single (signle), I think the edit feture would go good in your life too. You had it wrong. So, I corrected you as you had asked me to. .......... God bless.

    Someone else said, 'You make no since'; not me. I spell sense : sense, as in 'You make no sense.' God bless.
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    Even if RT did spell it "since", The lesson stands; grammar posts are lame.

    I'll proudly leave my little typo there, to burn a hole in the retinas of the anal retentive....

    God bless you too.


    GO GATORS!!
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I'm not actually saying L.S.U. should be # 1. That's ridiculous. Just like the year that we lost to Ole Miss 20-19 and University of Louisiana at Laffayette beat Ole Miss 21-20. That didn't mean U.L.L. was better than we were either that year. We beat some teams they would've gotten creamed by.

    But, what I am saying is this: Florida will be playing in Miami against either Texas Tech or Oklahoma; and if we beat them (just like Wake Forest, Vanderbilt, South Carolina and even Alabama), we will be in an elite group by beating the 2008 National Champions.

    However, you can be smokin' crack, though.
  • The_Observer · 1 year ago
    This guy makes me miss TE.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    Lol now that is funny. You went from "god bless" to "However, you can be smokin' crack, though." Nice deathvalley. At least we all know now we can take your posts and opinions seriously......
  • Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago
    Both quoted from your posts:
    "If L.S.U. beats Ole Miss, L.S.U. deserves to be # 1."

    "I'm not actually saying L.S.U. should be # 1. That's ridiculous. "

    Also..
    "and if we beat them (just like Wake Forest, Vanderbilt, South Carolina and even Alabama), we will be in an elite group by beating the 2008 National Champions."

    Ole Miss beat Florida, so unless you're talking about Ole Miss, this makes absolutely no sense.

    Hmm. I must be "smokin' crack" as you say. I thought we were using logic here. I just didn't realize that it was expectant mother-in-3rd-trimester logic.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Just look back at the U.S.L.-Ole Miss game a few years ago. U.S.L. 21; Ole Miss 20. The L.S.U. lost to Ole Miss 20 - 19. U.S.L. fans were saying :U.S.L - 21
    Ole Miss - 20
    L.S.U. - 19
    U.S.L. was no better than L.S.U. then as L.S.U. deserving to be # 1 this season (2009). That's all I'm referring to here Therefore, it's ridiculous that I think L.S.U. deserves to be # 1 base only on an OVERTIME loss to the presently # 1 team in the land. But, we don't deserve to be # 19 or # 20 either. There are plenty of teams ahead of us that I know we're better than. Please forgive me as far as that crack remark that I made to you. That was unnecessary. It was because of something about the number for my dealer. That was uncalled for too. God bless you!!!!!!
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    And you used the correct version of sense congrats .....if you read some of the other posts you will know what I mean
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Alabama had to hang for their dear life as they had to watch their lead evaporate against Ole MIss from 24-3; and barely get out alive against them too 24-20 (Just like they barely got out alive against L.S.U. in OVERTIME.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    I do spell it sense and not since like you did; and by the way ....... I send you God's richest blessings. That's the way Tebow would be; and I respect Tebow for being a Christian. He's a heck of good quarterback too. It's a gift from God, that's for sure.
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    I copy & pasted your post there, chief. RT 73 correctly spelled it "sense"--you corrected him, rather arrogantly I might add, saying it should be "since".

    Lesson: GRAMMAR POSTS ARE ALWAYS LAME (although in this case, hilarious--but for unintended reasons...).

    May the Lord bless you abundantly too...


    GO GATORS!!
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    In my e-mail, someone had spelled sense like this : since. My e-mail must have boo booed. I apologize for the boo boo. Thanks for the blessings. God will reward you for that. I hope that you sending me your blessings abundantly was as sincere as mine was. But, I definitely need to be blessed, that's for sure. I hope that you are saved from hell. Just start with John 3:16. Aw shucks ... Just start with the whole book of John. God bless you & I look forward to seein' you in heaven.
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    LOL ......ok guys enough with correcting each others grammer and blessing one another...Roll Tide and may God bless us one and all.... ok that was the last one
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    Wait one more rolltide. God bless you.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    Wait ..... just one more now ..... Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!!! ......... God bless all of you out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!; and please check out the book of John. Thanks!!!
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    LMAO.....and God Bless you Mr. Tech
  • don't tempt me · 1 year ago
    Seriously guys?!.... DV, let's drop it...whatever point it is that you're trying to make. Pray that our Tigers can pull through in Tiger Stadium this Saturday.
  • deathvalley56 · 1 year ago
    This year I tell you they deserve the trophy. They beat the reining National Champions dominantly; and Alabama squeaked by in overtime; plus all the common games that they've played with Alabama since the Ole Miss game have been very lopsided. Alabama has gotten very lucky to win most of those common games. But, this is COLLEGE FOOTBALL, and when kids get emotionally, the strangest things can happen, even Alabama pulling one of the biggest upsets of the year (By beating Florida). The difference between Florida's wins and Alabama's is that they weren't even close. God bless you.
  • don't tempt me · 1 year ago
    i think i'm changing my pic....too close...may cause confusion!
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    Don't worry, the content of your post's will differentiate...:-)
  • don't tempt me · 1 year ago
    I'll mull over that. Perhaps I'm better safe than sorry. Changing the subject. What's your prediction for the big game y'all have this weekend? Will we see you in the cotton bowl or nc game?
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    Sooners best just 'sume pick cotton this year!!! ;)
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    Sooners by two............that's two TD's, Bradford show's Tech who the real Heisman hopeful really is.....
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    They done been to the Cotton & got beat
    CFB is great -predictions
    OU beats TTech
    OK st beats OU
    BU beats TTech
    So then The Longhorns will be the only 1 loss team in the B-12 and will whup Missu for a second time
    Kill & embarrass however they face in a bowl Fla,Bama,USC whoever is left and claim the crown
    Hookem-Horns
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    Sounds like you're cheering for the Sooners TC, is that a first.........I wouldn't pack your bags to go to the NC game just yet......
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Hey Ron with all due respect- Have my predictions ever been right?LOL
    I really dont like either team and TTech is purty good
    Yall got them at home and it looks like a good matchup
    No disrespect to Red Raider fans, just an objective non-bias prediction
    No way would I ever root for the Sooners- you oughta know that Ron
    Which Red Raider team is gonna show up?
    They took care of business against OK st but the same team was behind at the half against A&M and had a bit of trouble with Neb
    I know the Raiders won those games and thats all good- not knocking anybody. My predictions are really just wishful thinking, since TTech is undefeated I figure they need to lose two and I still like the Cowboys in Stillwater and The Bears in Lubbock- yes folks
    The Raiders could get caught up in alot of glory etc etc and overlook the Bears which just whuped the H outa A&M it was embarrassing.
    Who knows whats gonna happen except Texas will whup up on A&M and generations of Aggies will tell stories of the beatdown to their grandchildren and cry tears into those terrible towels. They will reminiss about way back when they had a football program under R.C. and take their place at the bottom on The B-12 south for the rest of eternity
    Hookem-Horns
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    LOL, well I'm sure the Sooners will do their best to make sure one of those predictions come true......BTW, I would be happy to play LSU in the Cotton...........I don't envy anyone who has to play Florida....
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    A more realistic prediction Tomcat. We beat OU, then lose to Baylor. Go out in true tech style...:).
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    Don't Tempt Me:
    Highly encouraged my friend.


    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago
    What time is the game set for kick off
  • Rich · 1 year ago
    You guys really all ought to realize that maybe LSU isn't that good, but Troy is a very good team. They just cant recruit a lot of depth, and thats why they always fade in the fourth quarter. In the last three years, theyve gone toe-to-toe with Arkansas, Florida, Florida State, Ohio State, and Georgia, theyve beaten Mississippi State, almost beat LSU in 04, and blew out Oklahoma State just last year.

    Next year Troy will keep their quarterback and two best receivers, and add Josh Jarboe to the receiving corps. Their defense will mature a little bit, and I predict they will only lost one game in 2009, to Florida. They should mop up the rest of competition, including Arkansas.
  • UGA1971 · 1 year ago
    USC and Texas fans....jeez....Why do you get upset when your team has to step out of the spot light? The SEC championship will be a better game to watch than the NC. So, sit back and enjoy some great football.
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    I'll just say this...

    We had to mount a furious comeback to beat a Sun Belt Conference team with its backup quarterback...

    There's something to be taken from the offense standing up for Jarret Lee after dissension in the ranks from some alleged Senior Leaders were castigating him for yet another pick 6, and the marginalization of our seniors on this squad save for a few, as they completely stopped buying in after Les Miles kicked Ryan Perrilloux off the team, and "allegedly" ruined their season...

    But, there is no, I repeat NO, real positive you can take away from this performance on defense, and the offense has shown to be very predictable and vanilla if we aren't putting Lee in the shotgun no-huddle spread...
  • The_Observer · 1 year ago
    Atleast you guys won, nobody will even remember this "close win" in a year or two (besides LSU fans). A loss to a team such as Troy could hang over the program and coach for much longer and it could derail the rest of your season.

    I would chalk it up as a learning experience for the team, especially for the younger players (everyone that will be around next year anyways). It was a very close call, but it wasn't a loss.
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    You're absolutely right. Counter-e.g.--had Michigan beaten app'y state last year, it would've been long forgotten; instead, it stands as one the (IMO, THE) greatest upsets of all time (forget Stanford/USC; they're conference opponents--not even in the same league (no pun intended), as appy state/Mich in the BH).

    So LSU-Troy joins an endless list of almost happened's....a list so long and meaningless, I can scarcely conjure up any one of note from peceeding years.


    GO GATORS!!
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    This defense has given up 20 points to every conference opponent save for South Carolina...Which gave Steven Garcia his first ever start in their game against us...

    They only scored 17 there...

    I mentioned it above to this new LSU fan here...We don't disguise coverages or even try to mix zone into our mainly man scheme to attempt to make the quarterback have to THINK to read our defense...We make it too easy, even for backups, first time starters (MSU's put 24 up against us in his first start), and Sun Belt backups...

    The offense rallied around its quarterback, and I'm glad Miles made a principled decision against W's & L's this year in favor of running that cokefiend Perrilloux off, but the defense is inexcusable...

    35 points at home to Georgia-forget the 17 that Jarret Lee spotted them via pick 6's and turnovers-is inexcusable...

    Our defense is broken, and that has NOTHING to do with our offense, which i think has an extremely bright future...
  • The_Observer · 1 year ago
    Oh I agree the LSU Defense needs some serious work! It sounds like the problem starts from the DC after reading your comments. You guys CERTAINLY have the personnel, so I figure you just need to rearrange the coaching staff a bit.

    Is there any talk of Miles changing up his staff in the offseason?
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    Well...That's something I've heard a lot about..

    The problem is that our Defensive Line has completely underwhelmed this year, on top of our Co-DC issues, as well...

    So, in essence, you've got a DL coach, a LB Coach, and a DB coach who are on the hotseat...YOUR ENTIRE DEFENSIVE STAFF has performed so poorly there are honest grounds for termination, in this fan's opinion...

    I think the two biggest things we can do to change things around are:

    1.) Firing Doug Mallory. Corey Raymond-a former LSU CB-coaches the CB's and has gotten EXCELLENT RESULTS this year with a first year group of starters and youngsters. Mallory-who mainly works with safeties-has completely underwhelmed from a player development standpoint. I think if you don't run him out of here on a rail, then I have serious issues with Miles as a coach. I have faith that objectivity will win out over loyalty here. You promote Raymond to secondary coach here. The players like him, and he'd be an excellent recruiter.

    2.) Fire Earl Lane and bring back former AU and current La Tech DL coach Jimmy Brumbaugh. He did wonders last year as a de facto S&C coach who worked with the DL year round. He has their unit up in Ruston performing very well. With a bunch of kids LSU didn't even offer. Lane will hurt in terms of recruiting Florida, but this year's poor play from the DL is simply inexcusable, and his lack of player development during his time in TigerTown is equally inexcusable.

    3.) Keep Bradley Dale Peveto and give him the DC spot.

    This is the perfect world, for me...But, who am I? I'm just a fan...
  • Rukus · 1 year ago
    I'm trying to log on here, but can't seem to find it. Help guys!
  • Rukus · 1 year ago
    I'll make one comment while I look to log in. All you dumbq$$es that think that any team in the SEC or the BIG 12 have easy schedules is easy or mediocre... You are wrong! If you play in the SEC or BIG 12, you have very hard schedules! Having one or two good team, I.E. ACC or Pac 10, where there are only one or two teams that are good??? The SEC and the BIG 12 are the good teams! Jealous, yeah! USC is a used to be! The SEC or the BIG 12 will will the BC! Period! Roll Tide! (I think FL is the best team in the nation BTW.)