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Re: 2008 - Week 13 College Football Polls

DormRoomGear — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:19:23 -0000

Ha, I would never use the USA Today rankings they do not know anything about college sports, and defintly not enough about college football, they should stick to writing stories about college politics and dorm room supplies

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Porcine — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:37:17 -0000

Maybe, i don't remember.

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NMLSooner — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:13:36 -0000

45-35, 65-21, 39-33. They all go together. If OU had beat TT 45-35 they would still be in the discussion, but because OU DESTROYED them it eliminates OU? That's not logical. If you wanted 45-35 to stand alone, should have beat TT!

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1Tomcat — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:56:16 -0000

www.45-35.com
Texas beat OU

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Zac — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:28:06 -0000

OK, NMLSooner, here goes nothing.

TX did beat a higher ranked OK on neutral ground, and, though they lost to a highly, albeit lesser ranked TX Tech, it was at TX Tech. OK's epic win against Tech was in Norman. Consider also, that while it is likely OK would have breezed through TX's early schedule, said schedule didn't include a single 1-AA team; not so with OK's schedule..

Which brings me to the overall strength of schedule. Currently, the teams OK has played have a combined won/loss record of 66-58; likely there will be 4 wins & 4 losses added to each column, or no net change, by the end of this weekend. TX's schedule has a combined record of 75-46. Although their aggregate may change by as many as +2 in the loss column, that's still a combined record of 79-53.

So, in conclusion, I think it can be said, and reasonably so, even if OK wins in Stillwater, TX should go to the Big 12 Championship to meet MO. This, by the way, is the opinion of someone who's neither an OK nor TX fan. While you may argue my points at length, you can't argue my objectivity.

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OU_Ron — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:06:44 -0000

Must have been in your younger days, when you had more energy.....

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deathvalley56 — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:54:38 -0000

BP, I agree that Ole MIss is underrated. Afterall, they are in the S.E.C. But, they're inconsistent, that's all. Ole Miss did beat Florida, which is a remarkable feat in itself; and they came from 21 down against Alabama, only to lose by 4, 24-20. In fact, I think it was 24-3 at halftime, Alabama, and Ole Miss shut out Alabama in the 2nd half (If I recall correctly anyway), only to lose by just 4 points. I think Florida losing to Ole Miss was a good thing for Florida, though; and they've been on a rampage ever since.

You could be right about Ole Miss deserving to be in that pack of teams too; and Utah might be able to go 9-3 (Even in the powerful S.E.C.) as well. You could, very well, be right on both accounts, BP. In fact, I think It would be a very good game between Ole Miss and Utah. Nonetheless, Utah might be a bit better than Ole Miss. But, I still feel that it would be a very good competitive game.

Ole Miss beatin' Florida wasn't a fluke. But ..... dog gone ...... the least one could say about Ole Miss is that they are so inconsistent since they beat Florida ........ and Ole Miss has lost 4 games, I believe, but by something like a total of 19 points, or something like that. But, I'm pretty sure it's by a total of 19 points, though. Later, BP ..........

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Ben Prather — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:24:49 -0000

Ole Miss is underrated. They deserve to be in that pack of teams.

I think Utah is a bit better than Ole' Miss so I think they go 9-3 in the SEC.

But remember:

Ole Miss beat Florida...

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deathvalley56 — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:05:13 -0000

BP, 1st of all, no, i didn't watch the Utah TCU game. I just heard the final score 13-10 Utah; and I certainly didn't know that Utah was very fortunate to win, that's for sure. TCU IS PROBABLY UNDERRATED, according to you ....... then ................ since you think TCU is probably better than Utah. This is especially true since Utah is ranked 7th or 8th, whichever poll you choose to go by. I look mostly at the one where Utah is ranked 7th since I feel that Texas Tech is really overrated (Definitely not ranked 7th, that's for sure) after Oklahoma laid it on 'em this past weekend 65-21. As far as Boise State is concerned, I don't care if they're undefeated or not, I feel that they're definitely overrated as well.

But, I think if any of these teams played in the S.E.C. none of them would be undefeated. U.S.C. would probably have another loss or two, besides the one that they had vs. Oregon State. The S.E.C. is not as strong this year for sure. But, in the S.E.C., it's still more physicial than any other conference; and, in the S.E.C., there are many injuries takin' some key players out of the game from game to game all the time (It's an ongoing thing too from week to week too). The S.E.C. teams just beat up on one another period.

Besides Boise State, I also feel that Ball State is overrated; and I agree with your whole last statement , BP, that any of the other teams excluding these 2 teams, of course, that really any team can win any given week, really depending on how fired up they are for the entire 60 minutes (I'm speakin' of emotions, of course) ............ and also for the extra minutes if an overtime is required. Have a great day, BP.

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Porcine — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:57:44 -0000

I got some longer ones from about 2 years ago.

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NMLSooner — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:32:17 -0000

UT still got beat by a team OU beat by 44, and could have beat worse, and that team was ranked #2 in the country. Head to head doesn't work in a three-way tie. Find another argument

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Ben Prather — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:59:00 -0000

Did you watch the Utah TCU game? Utah was VERY fortunate to win that one.

I actually think TCU is probably better than Utah, definately better than Boise State.

That whole pack from USC to Oregon State, excluding Boise State and Ball State, is pretty close, to where any team can win any week.

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OU_Ron — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:28:42 -0000

I think that's the longest post you've ever written....:-)

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Porcine — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:58:32 -0000

Boston College in 83' beat Penn State and Clemson. In 72' Oklahoma beat Texas 70', 69' and Nebraska 70', 71'. In 71' Texas lost to Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Penn State. In 67' Purdue and Southern cal both beat Notre Dame and Michigan State. Arizona State and Texas both beat Nebraska in 96' coming off of back-back titles. Same thing in 76' with Oklahoma losing to Colorado and Oklahoma State. In 94" Florida beat Alabama, but only tied and later lost to Florida State. Any other time happened before 1960. I might look it up later.

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deathvalley56 — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:53:39 -0000

H.T., I can't remember the last time any team beat the past 2 previous national champions either; and, also when the last two National champions played each other, the visiting team has never won. This year L.S.U. was that visiting team vs. Florida; and we had to follow up right behind you guys huge win (31-30) the following week. We were the 1st victim in line with many more victims for this year's National Champions, the Florida Gators. I'm just pretty sure they're gonna get it. But, when things seem to be so sure, in college football, something strange happens. No matter what, I think it'll be Florida vs Texas (Because of the B.C.S., if Texas beats Texas A & M, of course); and Florida will be the winner vs. Texas (If they get by Missouri also, that is, I think they definitely will). That's just my opinion, though; and I think you're right that Ole Miss may be the only team ever to beat the last two National Champions. I'll need to check up on that one. Nevertheless, if y'all aren't or are, y'all have to be in a very small elite group that has achieved this anyway. I also feel that Ole Miss is underrated this year as well. For me, it was sad, but I was at the L.S.U. vs Ole Miss Game this past weekend.

If I haven't said so, y'all also beat this year's National Champions as well, the Florida Gators (Which coincidentally happens to to be the same National Champion as in '06 and this year, '08). On the other hand, I have said that already; haven't I? Now, y'all probably are DEFINITELY the only team to do all 3 of these things, for sure, for sure (Beating the champs of '06, '07, and '08 during the later season). I'm just referring to a combination of any 3 seasons like this in a row in history, of course. Florida winning this year in '08 just happens to be my personal selection of who I think will take it all.

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Hotty_Toddy — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:35:47 -0000

I can't remember the last time any team beat the past 2 previous year's national champions in one season -- we beat 06's National Champ Florida, and 07's LSU.

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deathvalley56 — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:13:56 -0000

Keven @ Fanflogs, I agree that Texas Tech = Overrated!!!

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deathvalley56 — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:06:30 -0000

BP, I can certainly understand Ole Miss being uderrated. They blew us (L.S.U.) out 31-13 and they're also the only team that beat this year's National Champion, The Florida Gators; and I know that Utah blew out T.C.U. 13-10. So, how is T.C.U. underrated? From this score, then, should Utah be ranked # 7 and T.C.U. be ranked # 8 or something? I'm pretty sure (you being a die hard Ute Fan) that you don't feel the Utes are overrated, do you? T.C.U. also got beaten by the Sooners, 35-10; and Texas Tech got blown away by the Sooners 65-21. Therefore, I can see your point about T.C.U., possibly being underrated. Thus, Texas Tech is, in deed, overrated, for sure. T.C.U. should be ranked somewhere right below the Utes. The Utes and T.C.U. both beat B.Y.U. and the Utes barely beat T.C.U. By the way, I was just kiddin' when I said that Utah blew away T.C.U. I thought from the score that you could see my humor. Nonetheless, you could be right concerning T.C.U. being underrated, for sure, for sure. Have good one, BP.

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OleBlueDog — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:31:30 -0000

Very true. I'd like to see the Pac 10 and Big 10 go to 12 teams and a championship game. Then the Big East dropped to mid-major status, at which point you could have the champions of the 12 team leagues (5) and three at large bids (giving automatic bids to champions of mid majors if in the top 15). There you have your 8 team playoff. First round uses these meaningless Toronto and Washingtoton DC bowls at the start of bowl season. Then the BCS bowls are your next round, followed by a true National Championship Game a 2 weeks later.

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ROODOGS12 — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:53:28 -0000

The arguement that the Sooners are playing better football post Texas versus pre Texas is absolute bunk!!First 5 games"pre" Texas,average margin of victory.....35.8 ,"post" Texas........30.6 !The point is that the Horns beat OU when they were playing their best football ,ON A NEUTRAL FIELD,NOT BY A FIELD GOAL,NOT BY A TOUCHDOWN,BUT BY A FIELD GOAL" AND" A TOUCHDOWN!! WAKE UP COACHES,THIS ONE'S EASY! NUFF SAID!

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thebuckstopshere — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:41:42 -0000

"this whole BCS is a mess!"

Yeah, but it does get your talking and thinking about Utah and how good or bad they might be. I don't think in any other system you would be giving it any thought at all.

As far as Utah being ranked so high I don't see where I could penalize them. Utah's SOS would have been a lot better had Michigan not sucked so badly. But I would say I don't think they would be undefeated had they played the schedules of the teams you mentioned. But that's not what the rankings are based on for the most part. It's more about what you've done on the field, and not all the subjective opinions of hypothetical games.

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Dawgy — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:10:33 -0000

Ben,
Utah and Boise are fine programs no doubt. Can they compete, no doubt but, let me ask you a question and try to be honest about your answer. Currently Utah is ranked ahead of Texas Tech, Penn State, Ohio State, Georgia and, Oklahoma State. Would Utah be undefeated playing any of these teams schedule? Is it really fair to these programs who play much tougher games week in and week out? It is a much different world getting your team up for 2-3 games in a season verses 8-9 games. It also afftects injuries and team fatigue. Utah may well be better than these teams but, my opinion is that you suffer 2-4 loses playing any their schedules.

I'm a Georgia fan and no doubt biased but, Georgia's current strength of schedule is 6th and Utah's is 73rd and Boise's is 118th. Georgia has suffered through 18 season-ending injuries this year.

This whole BCS is a mess!

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Ben Prather — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:19:02 -0000

These teams have 8 conference games, leaving them with only 4 out of conference games. How do you propose allowing them to play 2 or 3 more games per year?

Also, are you really going to dismiss top 25 TCU and BYU as worse than the average BCS team? Lets look at the MWC vs BCS this year:

MWC vs PAC 10: 6-1
MWC vs SEC: 1-0 ( a win over an SEC team did not save Wyoming's Glenn his job )
MWC vs Big 10: 1-0
MWC vs ACC: 0-0
MWC vs Big East: 0-0
MWC vs Big 12: 1-3

MWC vs BCS: 9-4

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Dawgy — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:45:30 -0000

Boise State has played (1) BCS team and Utah has Played (2). If these teams want to be included in BCS bowl games they should have to play at least 5-6 BCS teams. According to Sagarin, Boise's strength of schedule is somewhere south of 100th and Utah's is like 75th. This is not fair to teams who have to play a schedule with 8,9,10 BCS teams. How many teams in the top 25 could run Boise's schedule?

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Wardboy3 — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:00:22 -0000

I agree that Ole Miss is better than expected, but I also think LSU is way OVERRATED. I can't beleive they hung around in the polls so long & if you still look they are only 2 - 3 slots from #25. WTF?