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I think their success the last two weeks stems from their opponents being grossly overrated rather than the underrating of ECU...
Ala So.FL last season...
Just ask Hawaii...
By the way, how was S FL overrated last season. Were they even ranked about this time?
Still don't know if Auburn is deserving of a top 10 ranking. Probably not yet...
East Carolina at 14th and 20th. That's quite a differential, wouldn't you say?
For the BCS standings it was 2004.
**October 30th: Utah #6, Boise State #12, S. Miss #23 UTEP #24
**November 13th: Utah #6, Boise State #9, UTEP #24, Bowling Green #25
November 20th: Utah #6, Boise State #7, UTEP #24, Bowling Green #25
**All 4 in the top 25 in both polls.
Unless it happened duing the start of a season since then it must hvae been November 13th 2004.
To call the MWC, WAC, C-USA, MAC and Sun Belt non BCS conferences is a bit of a misnomer. They all have contracts with the BCS guaranteeing them money. Unlike the FCS conferences that get a cut they are also all specifically mentioned in the BCS Bowl eligibility language.
The difference is that their conference champion is not an automatic qualifier for a BCS Bowl, thus the conferences and their members would be better referred to by the terms BCS AQ and BCS non-AQ.
I stole this from someone around here, I am not sure who.
Somebody has to derail the Trojan train. Looks like it's the Bucs!
I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't share your optimism. I think OSU is top 15 material. This week. I'll be very surprised if they're in the top 20 next week. Realistically speaking, USC should win by 21, and I think I'm being conservative with that number. I could see USC winning by something like 42-7. We'll see what happens, but they're not playing like a team, and Boeckman has regressed every week since the Illinois game last year. They're also still playing their corners 10 yards off the ball, even in short yardage situations. Heacock didn't learn a damned thing the last two NC games.
I'm not the only fan deeply concerned. There are a lot of folks in Columbus bracing for a beatdown this Saturday.
Someone's gotta be top dog in the Big 10. If not OSU, then maybe Wisconsin?
I kinda agree. College football is so strange sometimes. Last year, it was Ohio State which had lost most of the best players to the NFL, and yet they were able to return to the BCS Championship. This year, the Trojans had lost the most to the NFL, and they were not supposed to be as good.
Ohio State should have come out looking great - instead they have not. I watched the whole Ohio game and was kinda convinced that maybe Ohio State hadn't prepped for Ohio at all. Maybe they had spent all week preparing for USC. Besides, So Cal will have had two weeks to prepare for the Bucks. Nevertheless, and even without Beanie Wells, Ohio State should have probably drilled that team. After all - they were 33 point favorites. I'm not sure that playing Youngstown and Ohio is gonna get you ready for USC either. Of course Virginia is no Ohio State either. But USC will have two weeks to prepare for the Bucks.
What I can say is that the Trojans will cover Buck receivers a lot tighter than Ohio was. Boeckman was having trouble with the Ohio secondary. He's gonna have alot more trouble than that with Southern Cal's. Ohio State has got to get Beanie Wells healthy and try to somehow establish the running game. If they cannot do that - I'm inclined to believe that this game could get uglier than any of us think it will. Hopefully, the Bucks can get Pryor more involved, and the Trojan's will have more trouble running him down. If Tressel has done his homework - he will understand that the Trojan's have alot more trouble with mobile QB's. If they are pocket QB's - USC will generally get to them. But players like Young at Texas, Dixon at Oregon, Pritchard at Stanford - have given the Trojan's fits. The best hope for the Bucks would be to get this guy out there if they can. If he can get outside the containment - then the Southern Cal secondary has a chance to break down. This is the way to beat the Trojan's - that along with some kinda running game. Good luck!
I don't foresee Ohio State's O-line establishing the running game if they couldn't move Ohio's DL of the ball. They were very lackluster against YSU the week before also.
Enjoy your blowout. It'll be ugly by halftime. I'd wish you good luck as well--but you guys won't need it. USC is strong this year and looks like a team with something to prove.
We have big problems with the pass rush, and against a NFL caliber passer like Sanchez, I just can't see us stopping the passing game at all.
I'm not so worried about the rush defense, at least at first, those guys have stopped the run for 2 years. The problem is that once USC opens up the passing game, Heacock will end up pulling a LB to add another safety, opening up the middle.
I'll be screaming Go Bucks all night, and will love them either way, but I'm seeing a 14-21 point loss.
Go Bucks!
In order for a running QB to make a difference, there has to be at least the threat of going downfield, which I don't think he's ready to do.
He is going to be a great one, you can see flashes of it when he runs, just not this year.
...you can leave the doubting to us; there are plenty of us SEC and other such fans who don't believe, and we're just chompin' at the bit to pile on next week!
Your beloved Bucks could probably use a bit of confidence and fan support going into this thing.
Just a suggestion.
GO GATORS!!
Go Bucks.
Did they watch a different game than I did? As far as SEC schools go, Florida is one school that I would rather win than LSU and Georgia, but I just didn't think they played well at all, at least not until Miami's freshmen were so worn down they could hardly walk.
I would have Mizzou and LSU above both Fl and OSU
...and perhaps a bit of recent history brought to the forefront after Sat's lackluster performance...
GO GATORS!!
PS--you see? There's plenty of us doubters!
BTW B-12 was 12-0 this week
Congrats to Vanderbilt, Rice and Ark st
Thank goodness OU doesnt have Tulsa this year!!
IF OU can beat Wash,TCU, UT, TTech,ATM ,KU and Missu then they deserve a title shot over whoever is left undefeated period. Right now the winner of Wisconsin vs Fresno is almost as important as Kansas vs USF game IMHO.
Tulsa and ECU have just as good a shot as Utah & TCU
There are alot of really good undefeated teams and I would like to see a
B-12 vs SEC in the MNC game because those are the toughest conferences and they have a CCG that the Pac-10 and B-10 dont have to play the same team twice.
The Trojans will probably try and pound the rock in this one. That's my guess. I think clock management and less turnovers is the theme for the day. Remember, Sanchez is not all that "blooded" yet either. This is not the secondary to try and earn a Heisman on. So, I think the Trojans will use the FB Havili on more short passes, maybe the TE McCoy more, and pound the rock with Johnson, McKnight and Gable mostly. The Bucks will probably try and run Wells alot. All I was saying about Pryor, is if they can get him into the game around 25% of the time, it'll give the Trojans alot more to think about.
So, with all that being said: I don't think that USC could possibly manage more than around 28 points and it might be as small as 21 or so. The biggest mismatch is gonna be when the Ohio State offense takes the field. But, they will score something. Nevertheless, because of the way that both coaches will attempt to manage this game, I think that it'll stay fairly close - provided that Ohio State does not turn it over too much.
Perhaps they do, but we'll never get to find that out if they're 10 yards off the line of scrimmage when the ball is snapped. Let me put it this way. There were at least 5 3rd and long situations that were converted by the Ohio Bobcats--a middle of the road MAC school--last Saturday. I don't care if they had a mobile QB or not. It would've been much worse if their receivers didn't have a case of the dropsies all day long.
USC wins by at least 21 this Saturday. Take it to the bank.
Well, you've still only given up 14 points in two games. That's seven a game. Southern Cal gave up seven to Virginia. What have you scored? 34.5 a game? So, 34.5-7.0 per game isn't too shabby. One of those games was without Wells. If you finish the year out beating opponents by 27.5 per game - you'll probably win the Championship. Trojan teams have had many "dog games" and still been very talented. They can always bounce back at some point and be very very good. I just think that you guys are gettin' too down on the team for one really lackluster game. And, it's really not that surprising with the Trojan's looming on the horizon. You know, it's quite possible that the Trojans could come out flat. It happens to almost all teams a few times during each year. The great trick is to win those games anyway - which is exactly what OSU has done.
Dude. Please. You are talking about a YSU team that might be average in I-AA and an Ohio team who will probably finish 4th or 5th in their conference. I HATE OSU's OOC schedule. I've long been a critic of cupcakes at the beginning of the year. It's no way to prep for the Big 10(11) or for teams like USC. You and I both know points scored and points allowed doesn't mean squat, unless you're talking about quality opponents.
I really am hoping you're right and that this was that one game where they played like garbage and didn't prepare at all for Ohio and they came out as flat as they could possibly play. However, my opinion is also based on what I saw against YSU.
This is the most ill-prepared Ohio State team I've seen the week prior to a big game in the Tressel era. I'm not exaggerating. I'm usually the one brimming with optimism and trying to pump up my friends who aren't so sure about OSU's chances in big games--but not this time, bro.
Well, what do you think Virginia is? Worst Virginia team in years. Might be barely better than Duke and NC State. I can't figure where all this Trojan love is coming from. I've watched the Trojans all my life. That was just a routine win over a bad football team. I didn't see anything very special at all. It was our worst running performance in many a game. Our O-Line is very young and unproven. Just because they pushed Virginia around a little does not mean much. We did not throw the ball down the field. We took what they gave us. My impression was that Pete Carroll did not want Jim Tressel to see what we might really want to do. And, Tressel might not want for Pete to see what he really wants to do either. So, all I'm saying is: let's wait and see what happens during the game. I think it will be closer than you think. And, I do think that USC wins the game because they are at home and might have a little more overall team speed. But, I think that since it is early in the year, a big blowout is very unlikely. Keep in mind, those Florida and LSU teams had played (13) games, been through the rigors of a tough SEC schedule - and won an SEC championship game. This Trojan team has only the Virginia game behind them. I really doubt if USC hits on all cylinders against a tough OSU defense this early in the season.
A better football team than Ohio is, for sure.
"That was just a routine win over a bad football team."
Exactly. Which is something Ohio State should've accomplished against Ohio. This was the same Ohio State team that went to the National Title game last year, and there they were on Saturday, struggling against the mighty Bobcats.
I never thought I'd be arguing with anybody on this site about how bad Ohio State is...LOL!! I hope the game is competitive, Double T. I would be more than pleasantly surprised. :-)
I didn't get to se USC-Va, but from the expert commentary I have been led to believe that USC was so dominant that the starters were all napping on the bench by the second quarter.
I am surprised as well by all the Trojan love, considering that for the last couple of years, most of us have considered them to be a team of extremely talented underachievers.
If USC does win, I will certainly be a new fan, much better that the PAC10 wins than the SEC (we'll never hear the end of it if Ga wins).
I still think OSU pulls off an upset 24-21.
Benefit of not being on TV i guess
Glad you're okay. Now go retrieve all your patio furniture from the bottom of your pool...
You know nervous parents can make you when you they use your middle name? Imagine that, and add in Hurricane Force sustained winds, and a freaking crying cat they forgot to bring in, and flying debris whizzing by your head...
It was hair-raising...
Certain places in and around River City look like a bomb went off down here...I live in the burbs outside of Baton Rouge, a little hamlet called Denham Springs...We got sustained winds of way over Hurricane strength for a few hours straight...
Two dozen trees down in my parents neighborhood, had to chainsaw their way out, and my friend who lives down in the southern part of my Parish (that's county to you! We cling to our guns AND our Religious relics down here...The Parish is a leftover from the French & Spanish days of yesteryear here in Sportsman's Paradise) had to do the same...
We didn't get a lot of national coverage for this storm when it was apparent that the evac was successful, which really pisses me off when you stop and think about it how much it proves the media bias out there. It was only a story if people lost their lives...
It'll turn out that this storm was far more damaging to our state as a whole than Katrina/Rita was (They were really a localized deal; New Orleans & Lake Charles took huge beatings in those storms, but the rest of the state was largely spared). Gustav knicked New Orleans, walloped the Five Parish Metro Baton Rouge Area, and went on up to North Louisiana kicking butt, causing flash floods, and the like...
But no Katie Couric in town when it was apparent that our new Governor knew the difference between scratching his ass and winding his watch, which our former First Mee Maw Kathleen Babineaux Blanco was often confused with...
Nobody dies, we get buses (and plans & trains, this time around, thank you very much, FEMA) to get New Orleanians out, and we have time to watch the Saints win in the SuperDome this weekend...
But, I'm channeling TE as a 50 year old, and not the soon to be 30 year old he actually is...I should ease up...I have wireless, I have electricity, and I have AC and a job to go to...It's more than 40% of my fellow Louisianians have at this point in time...
I believe we speak the same language as it pertains to clinging to certain items, your commentary regarding particular govt. officials, and opinion of the media--which reminds me of a Don Henley song called Dirty Laundry.
Like I said before, I'm glad you're alright down there and I sincerely hope the state gets everything back to normal quickly. Here's to hoping there will be another influx of help from around the country down there, too.
Dirty little lies...
Got their dirty little fingers, in everybody's pies...
Love to cut you down to size...
Give us dirty laundry...
Sorry. Shouldn't be singing. Now I'll have that song in my head the rest of the day...
It lives...
Hell, I was even a;little worried about ya, chief...
Nice to see you're okay, corndogger......
At least you didn't call him 'sports fans'...
With Katrina Mississippi got most of the inland damage which is often worse than the damage at the shoreline. Everyone only remembers the Levy failure and poor planning by the local government, a man made dissaster.
P.S. This next one looks scary.
-Ohio State can only redeem themselves with a win over USC
-Notre Dame should not get any votes at all in any poll
Now the Rice vs Vanderbilt is a big game between two undefeated teams
Go Owls
How about...for most over paid head coach in CFB?
GO GATORS!!
Most Overpaid Head Coaches:
1. Charlie "I'll sue you cause i'm fat" Weiss
2. Tommy "Please help me Saban" Bowden
3. Bobby "I recruit at the state pen" Bowden
PS. Gators should be ranked 2nd in the BCS polls, they seem to be coming together on defense. We'll see what happens with their SEC opponents.
#3 on your list is one of the greatest of all time !! deserves every nickle IMHO
June Jones- maybe= only time will tell
PLAYOFFS NOW!!
how to hold bama to 0 points in 2008:
rush 3 down guys, rush 3 linebackers, have a guy in zone coverage in both flats, have two guys in zone about 10 yds deep, covering the middle, then one safety.
ahhh, i should coach defense.
against Clemson, they brought the blitz a few times, but JPW was able to dump it off to the HB and pick up 15 yds.
JPW CANT HANDLE THE BLITZ!
JPW CANT THROW DEEP! (+ 20 yds.)
god, i hope Western Kentucky's DC doesn't read this...
I would HATE to have you people's emotional well-being in my hands...
I'd have you all overdosing on St. John's Wort and Zoloft...
Are you that insane to talk like this from one game to the next?
Let the season play out, man...
"Huge Step Back"? How many 18 year olds are you guys depending upon in skill positions and in positions of need? How much depth do you have? How much talent does your OL "really" have?
Yet you act like you guys are already national title contenders...
That's okay...Once the conference schedule starts, you'll come back down to Earth...
It's a process...Just like the mantra of your coach...
BC, your offensive line is nowhere near what you think it is, and I tried to point this out to you in the preseason...
I actually think Saban is going to remedy this through recruiting and building depth (read: competition makes us all better), but you have to face facts...
SJJPW is a QUALITY QB that every other team in your Division-save for Ole Miss-would probably be starting this year...
Let that sink in, man...Seriously...
Your problem is your Offensive Line...
You talk about rushing six guys, and you think your O-Line and your freshman running backs are going to pick that up? Heck, Hester was our 3rd most talented RB last year, but because he could read the blitz and knew when to check in to block or when to run the wheel route release into the flat, he was out there as our starter...
If you think an 18 year old, or a kid as green (and as slight of build) as Grant is going to do the job in pass rush blitz picking situations, you're dreaming...
You had zero experience at WR coming in, and youth at tailback, as well...Couple that with a poor OL, and if you have a secondary that can play aggressive press man and bump off the line, even "Julio & His Immortals" won't win consistently at this stage of their collegiate development...
You're delusional if you think Wilson's the problem...
TE, seriously??
you're really gonna try to tell me about my team??
Alabama's O-Line is the best part of our offense. we've got TWO '09 first-round NFL draft picks on our O-Line, and you're telling me it's our problem??
Tell that to Clemson.
Against Tulane, two of our starters on the O-Line were out including our best lineman, Andre Smith.
also, i talked about rushing 6 guys in order to beat the Alabama offense...
at WR, we are very deep. so deep that Julio Jones is the #2 guy. a Chicago Bears scout recently stated that Julio could play for them right now.
at TE (thats tight end, not you), we have two guys that will be playing on Sundays.
First off, our O-Line rarely ever misses a block. It's usually our true freshman HB who understandably doesn't fully understand his blocking assignments yet.
Secondly, Terry Grant hasn't seen the field hardly at all this season. i think he has like 4 touches in 2 games.
JPW is 15-13 as a starter. 15-13.
JPW hits his man in stride about 15% of the time a catch is made.
JPW hits his man about 10% of the time if his man is more than 15 yds. away.
JPW has a knack for losing games.
JPW panics in the face of a blitz.
JPW had the best WRs in the NCAA last year except for LSU, and still sucked it up.
JPW has yet to complete a pass further than 15 yds. in two games.
i agree, he's better than Chris Todd, but is Andrew Hatch really that bad??
i havent watched LSU yet. i might go hit up espn360.com
note: Create 50 clones of self, buy 50 plasma screens.
You merely have to have a guy who distributes the ball to your playmakers...
Oh, BTW, In Cox's last two seasons, Auburn went 11-2 and 9-3...He finished his career 29-9 as a starter, and his senior class at Auburn had 50 wins during their time on the Plains...
Cox also drove the length of the field last year to almost beat the eventual national champions, save for a heroic last minute touchdown from my Tigers...
You know not of what you speak, sir...
And while the last two seasons were not bad seasons Brandon C and our offense were in the bottom half of the counrty in almost every cat. but rushing.
And he may have lead the drives but he wasn't the reason why got in the endzone.
He was a smart QB but not a great QB hense the statement he won't lose it but won't win it.
And I do know of what I speak no matter what your opinion is sir............................
JPW does lose games.
in 2007: FSU, LSU, MSU, LAM.
i have!
i actually played QB!
part of being a QB is reading the blitz PRE-snap, and mentally preparing for what you're going to do with the ball. a blitz opens up passing lanes everywhere. you look the blitz right into the face, make a smart decision, make an accurate throw for 15 yds. +, take the hit, and they won't blitz you again for a while.
and JPW has at the very least, 3-4 seconds to throw when they bring the blitz. he legitimately shouldve been sacked 1 time vs. Tulane, instead of 4.
im tired of people blaming the O-Line. even Saban said it wasnt the O-Line in his post game conference.
its called a blitz! there are 5 guys on the line. when more than 5 defenders are brought, a guy WILL get through the line, and JPW will NOT have 5 seconds to throw.
now. why do defenses blitz JPW so much?
because it makes him erratic, and scared.
If JP would audible, take two steps, step into his throw, then launch a deep ball on target, and take the hit, they wouldnt blitz!
but when a QB is dependent upon time, and short passes against man coverage, well, a DC knows exactly how to beat him.
You continue to display a dazzling array of versatility here at FanBlogs...
You go from complicated mathematical formulas to support the National Championship Aspirations for your 2004 squad in Auburn, and then wheel around and drop Robert Duvall as The Great Santini references on opposing fans?
You're like a Swiss Army Knife, sir...
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/college
You got edited, dude...
Whatever that means...
This IS TE we are speaking of...
I p0wn3d myself...L0L!
Right on...
Glad to see you are back on the blog! The closest thing I have ever experienced is Opal in 1995. That girl came up the Chattahoochee and put a whipping on us in LaGrange GA. I couldn't imagine a direct hit on the coast. Glad you and your family made it though in good health.
Bleed Crimson
I can't believe you expected much more out of your offense this week. TE is dead on in his assessment of your O Line's inadequacies leading to JPW's poor performance. Throw in that you go from the national spotlight in a game that every player on that team from the holder to the QB was jacked sky high for to a game against TULANE and you get a lathargic offensive performance. You guys will be alright, but I assure you that Bama is "not back" in the terms of back on the national championship scene. You will have an up and down season, at times looking like the team we saw on 9/6 and at times looking like the team we saw Saturday. I wish you luck and I hope the DAWGS just maul you guys.
Tommie T
You sound like Larry Munson on the DAWGS tailgate show. You are trying to convince everyone that this will be a game. Larry is the champ at it. "Man you should see these guys. Central Michigan is dressed in white with maroon numbers and they look good. LaFevour was throwing it 80 yards in warm ups and the linemen look like lineman but were running like cornerbacks. Do you know we are in for a war today?" Give me a break. This is going to be a game for about 1 quarter. All you fanblogs pick em guys, here's a gimme--USC over OSU no matter what the spread is.
GO DAWGS!
I just hate to see people who claim to be fans - throw in the towel before the game is even played. I remember many times when So Cal would lose to an Oregon State, UCLA, Stanford or almost get beat by a Washington or Notre Dame or Cal - and I would always insist that the Trojans would always blow-out the next opponent (and they always did). It has never failed. Also, I do know that teams have off games or slow starts to a season. The reality is that the Trojans never have a slow start or a slow finish. So, I am in agreement that no matter what the spread is - I take the Trojans. It's just that I don't think that it will be 42-7 like alot of people think it will. And, I'm really not convinced that a win over Virginia means all that much. We'll see how the rebuilt O-Line looks against Ohio State's front seven. If So Cal blows this team out - then maybe I might even start to think that they are # 1. But, I am also very impressed with Florida, Georgia, LSU and Oklahoma right now. So, I'm just not quite in total agreement that the Trojans are all that right now. They are gonna have some "off games" also - just like every team does.