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Fanblogs.com: 2008 - Week 6 College Football Polls

  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    LSU wins and has an open week, and for two weeks in a row, they move downward on the poll.

    That's alright...If we win, all of that won't matter.
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    I agree man. As long was we hang around the top 5 we'll be ok. The top teams are about to be into the meat of their schedules so anything can happen.

    Hey, you doin the Pick 'Em contest on Yahoo? There's somebody listed as LSU and I was wondering if that was you.

    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • JB · 1 year ago
    no thatwould be meee. lol, i keep forgetting to do it
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    The polls are starting to converge to something resembling reasonable.
  • Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago
    I still think they are way off, but they are better than they were a few weeks back.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    As a Longhorn fan I'm glad we play #1 OU 5-0 next week, then we host #2 Missouri 5-0 then we play#17 Oklahoma State 5-0 before playing at #7 Texas Tech 5-0.
    Hookem-Horns
  • gatorhippy · 1 year ago
    Bama will fall...

    I repeat: Watch out for PSU...

    BYU and UTah will be exposed but perhaps not until thier bowl game (Sorry, Ben)...

    Gates are still too high and should be ranked below Vandy...
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    I thought it was particularly interesting that Alabama scored all of 10 points on offense against an unranked foe and moved up a spot in the Top 5...

    But, what the hell...We benefited from some crazy shenanigans last year in the rankings...
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Ya TE You just gotta focus on next weeks opponent and everything else will work itself out in the end.
  • gatorhippy · 1 year ago
    Dude, I think you guys are going to punch us in the face this weekend...
  • Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago
    Note to self: Tivo that game in case Gatorhippy is right. ;-)
  • gatorhippy · 1 year ago
    You should...

    I keep the last three Wake/Nole contests in the DVR hopper to remind me how bad it could be...
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    Note to self: Be in fanblogs sunday afternoon to witness the aftermath...
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    I was thinkining with Alabama preformance the rankings should have been:

    1) Oklahoma
    2) Louisiana State
    3) Missouri
    4) Texas
    5) Alabama

    I was wrong!
  • "BC" · 1 year ago
    why all the love for LSU?
    was it the BIG (2 points) win over Auburn (lost to Vandy)??
    was it the struggle with Miss. St.??
    what happened in past seasons?

    i dont get it.
    at least alabama blew out georgia at home. and thats way more impressive than anything LSUs done at this point.
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    At least get your facts straight, BKotex...

    We won over Auburn 26-21...

    ...and don't take things for granted, BC...It would be really interesting to pull out your posts should Alabama make a return to form and tank the 2nd half of the season...

    We get love because we have PROVEN we are a team to be reckoned with...

    That's why the offshore books already started us off at -6 at Florida this week, & that's why the on-shore books have already moved us to a -4...

    We bring it week in-week out...

    We also score multiple offensive touchdowns on the road, something your team couldn't muster this past week...

    6 possessions in the 3rd quarter, and ZERO points to show for it Saturday...

    Which means you haven't scored in the 3rd quarter in two straight games...Now, UGA was an alright excuse...but Kentucky? You should've pounded them...

    Trust me, BC, the big leather couch at Daddy Warbucks' house where you sat and watched the CBS HD broadcast with Punjab and Pappy Pension-Funder pinched a tad bit more than a little when Coffee coughed up Nick Saban's football at the 2, only to have it dribble its way harmlessly out of bounds...

    Had UK had anything more than a horrible quarterback, your team was in sincere trouble, throughout, and gave up late points-AGAIN in the 2nd half.

    Seems familiar?

    Hmmm...2nd half failure...lack of focus...underwhelming and playing down to your opponent...Not able to put together a 4 quarter performance...

    Sounds like the #2 team in America to me, LOL...

    I'm not worrying with you anymore this week...As my team has more important goals at this point, and I'm sure your team and even you, BC, would also agree.

    We have a ways to go until November, and I will be sincerely impressed if my team is undefeated by that time. Our starting quarterback will be facing his first road start in a terrible environment, in a place where our opponent hasn't lost back-to-back games in forever...

    Looking any further beyond that is counterproductive, but...

    Enjoy that #2 ranking, BC...Better hope your grip is nice and tight...
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    Slow down Bleed Crimson...all I am saying if a ranked team, that includes Oklahoma, does not play well at home they should drop. By the way LSU beat Auburn by 5 points. Don't start getting upset...I don't hate any SEC teams but I view all of them the same...overhyped!
  • JB · 1 year ago
    just wait bud...November 8th will tell the tale....we will get our chance to duke it out just like OU an UT this weekend

    ----just for the record...does anyone on this site honestly believe, regardless of team affiliation, realisticly that a Nick-Saban coached team will win in Tiger Stadium (he is 0-1 there with the Dolphins post-Katrina)
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Lennie:

    I can't believe that we could agree on anything. But, I might just be able to see this poll you've constructed. Alabama should drop after a very less than impressive win over Kentucky. In fact - they played well enough to lose. LSU is the defending champ in the SEC and should stay that way until somebody beats them. Besides, they have Alabama at home this year. I might put Texas over Missouri even. But, your close enough. What happened? You run outta crack tonight?
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    No, I am drug free! I might be Crimson & Cream True BUT I am not bais like a few posters on here. If Oklahoma beats Texas and does not cover the point spread...they should drop as well! What's good enough for the SEC is good enough for the Big 12!
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    I don't agree with you Lennie, just because someone in Las Vegas thinks one team should beat another team by so many points, IMO don't mean JACK.........if Oklahoma gets beat..they drop, if Alabama gets beat, they drop, if Texas wins, they move up..again, JMO..
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    It's more like thousands of people taking a weighted median based on each selectors confidence value of their prediction.

    While winning and losing are the dominant factor, the results vs spread are a factor in the polls. Other effects exist between these, like various biases present in the system.
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    Like the Isley Brothers sang in 1969...It's you thang! You gotz yo' opinion and I gotz mindz!
  • JB · 1 year ago
    for me
    1) Oklahoma
    2)Missouri
    3)Alabama
    4) Texas
    5) LSU

    though they are my team, i see that we havent been tested so far
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    JB most teams in the Top 7 have not been tested.
  • "BC" · 1 year ago
    well if you look at the scoreboard, it looks like alabama really struggled with kentucky, but the win was never in doubt.
    the tide never trailed and it was just one of those BS games.
    some very biased officiating (alabama was the least penalized team in the SEC through 5 games, yet gets 100 yards in penalties? what changed? the refs)
    2 missed FGs, a fumble on UKs 5 yd line, and 2 30 yd. + pass plays called back on one of the aforementioned BS calls.

    if the score showed the game, it wouldve been at least a 16 point win, but oh well.
    at least we beat Kentucky right TE??
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    Yeah, BC...Here's the difference between LSU & Alabama:

    Alabama beat Kentucky and they might still win the SEC.

    LSU lost to Kentucky in overtime, and they won a national title.

    Keep on trying, BC...Your team might get to that plateau, someday....
  • Bama_DevilDog · 1 year ago
    TE & BC,

    Let's just wait and see Gentleman.

    destiny approches, and W's keep coming.

    Alabama makes a strong case for #2, by replacing Georgia as top ranked SEC team

    As long as both of the West's best are in the Top 5, there is nothing to fear.
    Other than the big ole letter L.

    So Bama fans, should just sit, wait, and shut-up. And pray we play better than we did against Kentucky (even if the score is not a good assesment of the game).
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    I'm afraid the W's will be placed on a temporary moratorium this weekend--at least for LSU.

    GO GATORS!!
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    Utah keeps playing like they want to drop one any week now. The computers like them, maybe their opponents are just good enough to make them look bad.

    BYU looks like the real deal.

    BCS bowls could get interesting, but if they play a Big East or ACC team they will not be exposed. Against a #2 SEC or Big 12 team could be interesting.

    I suppose the possibility that Penn State goes to the title game and the Big 10 does not have a second team eligible should be considered. Utah or BYU vs the PAC 10 champion in the Rose Bowl could be interesting.
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Ben:

    You can't be serious about the part "could be interesting" - could you? I guess that it could be - but not real likely. The Pac 10 Champ would normally smack both of those teams around pretty good. I can give you some pretty good examples of that.
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    I would emphasis normally. I don't think this is a normal year.
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Ben:

    These are the MWC signiture games for 2008:

    BYU 28 Washington 27
    Utah 25 Michigan 23
    Utah 31 Oregon State 28
    Oklahoma 35 TCU 10

    Now, I'm only taking games of your top three teams. What has BYU really done? Do you understand that both Oregon and Arizona have actually blasted Washington? Is the UCLA game really a "Big Win"? These are teams that are on the bottom of the PAC. Utah's wins were okay. But, is Michigan really any good at all? Isn't Oregon State the traditional 4th best team in the PAC? TCU played a really good National contender. What happened? They were smoked.

    So, I really fail to understand what has made the MWC so great this year? I just can't seem to see it. Is it because Arizona and Arizona State got upset? Does that make BYU, Utah and TCU any better than they really are? It hasn't been anybody in the MWC who has been leading the country in recruiting for the last several years. That distinction belongs to Southern Cal. Now, if USC has been blasting MWC teams since the stoneage, what is it that makes you think it's gonna be any different now? Have you outrecruited us? Have you found a better "Big Game Coach" than Pete Carroll? What specifically is it that is gonna allow for any of your Top Three teams to stay on the field with USC - should that opportunity be presented to you? Give me some specifics.
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    The MWC teams have something western college football usually lack. Its called defense. BYU has pitched two shut outs. Except for at Washington, they has been firing on all cylinders.

    Utah can hold Rogers to 101 yards rushing. We can hold Air Force's triple option to 58 yards rushing.

    Both of these teams are deep in maturity thanks to the added year or two to the average age of their players due to a large proportion serving two year LDS missions before playing. This helps tremendously in team leadership and discipline.

    You are the king of conference records for comparison. It is your base ammo in all discussions, especially with the SEC fans. Why be biased when it comes to comparing the MWC to the PAC 10? What part of 6-1 do you not understand? Maybe how CSU could drop one to California?

    Is Michigan looking any worse than Ohio State? Does Virginia have anything on Air Force? UNLV?

    I will give you that beating Oregon was good, except for their loss to Boise State.

    At least we won against Oregon State. USC's hubris is their greatest weakness.
  • Jon · 1 year ago
    Correct..

    PSU is taking Ohio States place in their annual "raping by an SEC team for the national title" game. I spent the entire 90's watching Penn State be way over-ranked with their cupcake schedule -- nice to see we have come full circle. That conference = WAC
  • badgerballer · 1 year ago
    Please, somebody shoot me.
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    I will, once I reload from my own self-inflicted wound...
  • Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago
    It ain't over til it's over. Wisky still has a shot at the Big 10(11) title. Mark my words, the league will be all jacked up this year, and my example is an undefeated Northwestern.
  • KMONEY · 1 year ago
    ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS....ROLL TIDE!!!!!!
  • clemson1981 · 1 year ago
    Why on God's green earth is Florida State still not ranked? FSU is almost back to there true form. It's just a matter of time before they are back on top. But they should be ranked at least between 20 and 25.

    Now onto the the team who is going to the national championship.......Mizzou showed on Saturday why they have the best offense in the nation, and a rather impressive D as well. From the way it seems if the National Title was today I would like to see Missouri v. Penn State. Just anybody besides OU, USC, UF, LSU, or Ohio St. I think most would agree that we all want to see a different team from usual win for once. Wasn't the expansion of the conferences and the creation of the BCS suppose to open doors to more competition? So far I am sick of having to watch USC or Ohio St in the national title every year, or watching OU choke every year. Let's make this season interesting!
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    At least USF, UF and LSU actually won. I think mostly people are sick of watching the same teams lose every year.

    Oh, and about FSU, maybe 2 FCS teams and a loss to WF are a part of the reason.
  • Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago
    FSU has played 14 good to great quarters this year on offense. Eight of those were against FCS. On the other hand, they've played 18 good-to-great quarters on defense (again, 8 against FCS teams). I still contend that FSU is a team on the way up, but you already expect me to say that. #3 defense, #32 offense... or roughly the same as unranked TCU. They just haven't played enough someones, so no rank-ie.
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    If they win their next two they will jump up pretty good. Its only NC State and Virginia Tech...
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    clemson 1981:

    I disagree. If it's Missouri and Penn State - I'll make sure that I don't watch it. I would like to see the best two teams play - period. You claim that Missouri just showed that they have the best offense in the land (against the worst defense in the land last year) against a very poor defense. Nobody in the Big 12 plays any defense - except for maybe Oklahoma and Texas. Still, the Big 12 defenses overall are a real joke. The Big 12 plays football exactly the way the Pac 10 used to play - all offense and no defense. Right now the Big 12 has plenty of real good passing QB's. This wears your own teams defenses out - as your own offense is not on the field enough. By season's end - all of these defenses will be worn down to the bone. Any team will be able to score at will by that time. We'll see how Missouri can do against some teams that understand how to cover receivers. Nebraska is not one of those teams. I'm not quite sold yet.
  • clemson1981 · 1 year ago
    Tommy:

    Im sure you won't watch PSU v. Mizzou because it won't have your beloved Trojans. Either way millions of people will, whats one more person that FOX loses?

    But my main point was I want to see something different for once. I think it would be great to see Penn St. in what could be Joe Pa's last year make it to the National Title game and play shut down D that tops Heisman trophy winner Chase Daniels and the all powerful Mizzou Offense. Thats a great story besides the usual "Wow USC wins again" or "This just once again proves OU can't win BCS games" or "It's true (like we have for 5 years) the SEC is the best conference in America" or my personal favorite "Ohio St. once again has to suffer a loss at the hands of an SEC team in the National Title game." Im tired of predictable football, and im tired of seeing the same 4-6 teams every year play for the prize, it gets old, just like watching New England win the Super Bowl got old. , no matter how good, it gets old.....fast.
  • GA_Boy · 1 year ago
    Is it just me or didn't Mizzou have the perfect opportunity to get into the championship game last year and blow it at the end? If they win out, they deserve but I doubt they pull that off. I myself go with a 1 loss USC, FLA, LSU, GA, BAMA, over a 1 loss Mizzou. The Southern Conference of the Big 12 is about to canabilize itself like a scene from Dawn of the Dead. Nobody will get through the next 5 weeks without a loss, maybe two. You could have something nutty like last year where the VOLS showed up in the SEC championship game from the East. I will go ahead and say it, Okie St in the Big 12 championship game.
    WEA, my condolences on the Vandy loss. They look like the team to beat in the East.
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    clemson1981:

    I can understand wanting to see somebody different: it's just that you should want to see the two best teams. Now, I know that Missouri looks real good right now, but they still have some tough games to get through. And, they'll have to win the Big 12 to get into the game. It's a tall order. I've seen Penn State play - and I'm really not too impressed. I know that they are better than they were last year - but I'm not too sure that they would stop Missouri either. I just haven't seen enough of Penn State against good teams yet. I'm not sold on either of these two teams. My Trojans have nothing to do with it right now. I'm more inclined to think that Oklahoma and either LSU or Alabama might be the game. I know that whoever comes out of the SEC with only a loss - probably deserves to play in the game. Anybody else might have to be unbeaten.
  • clemson1981 · 1 year ago
    Tommy:

    You may be right about Penn State not playing well, or that Mizzou will wear down. But looking at the schedule and looking at the talent, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that Mizzou and Penn St. could play. It not beyond that same realm that LSU, Bama, OU, and USC could play in the national title, any one of them. But based on schedule Penn St. could make it without a single problem, so could Mizzou, there only threat is OU in the Big 12 title game, Penn St. has OSU, thats it and the way the Buckeyes are playing and the way Penn St D is playing.........think of it like that.
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    The Big 12 teams don't play defense? I guess the Pacific 10 teams are the only ones that play real solid defense? All of them! Sounds like you are still bitter about what those Pesky Rodents did to your beloved Effeminate Warriors! Crimson and Cream True!
  • WestCoaster · 1 year ago
    What is the relevance of bringing up USC's loss to the Beavers in regards to the fact that the offenses in the Big 12 are much stronger than their defenses, as a whole? (OU, Tex, and Mizzou look like the exceptions) You should look at the all the offensive points scored in conference games by the Big 12, especially last year, and it shows that there is some validity to the argument.

    I know everyone loves to kick the Trojans when they fall, but come on, don't be tacky. Unless you're the team who beats them, it's just lame. Are any of these hard feelings related to the 2004 NC game?
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    As usual, another person who makes a comment without reading. Clemson1981 posted some stats about points allowed and it seems that the Pacific 10 is giving up 7 mo' points a game than the Big 12. Did you read that post. I stated that ol' Tommy Trojan could be bitter about the Trojans lost in regards to not watching the National Title Game if it were Missouri and Penn State in it. Read the whole post before you respond to me from now on!
  • WestCoaster · 1 year ago
    I did read the whole post. Stop being such a smart ass. And really, if you want to talk about defense points scored against, you have to look at the quality of the opponent. For example, Washington has played the hardest OOC schedule, and the Pac 10 is known for playing a daunting OOC schedule. The Big 12 ranks near the bottom. You want to try to talk down to me, fine, but at least make an intelligent argument while you're at it.
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    Westcoaster...I would not waste my time OR your time tryin' to argue. I agree 100% that Washington has had the hardest schedule and that I am a fan of Ol' Ty. But you better check your tone when you response to me!
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Yeah,

    Or maybe he won't talk to you no more. You might even make it onto "the list". Don't piss him off!
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    Was it something I posted(said)?
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    What is that icon by his name? Why, is that Wilson from Tom Hank's Castaway?
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Lennie:

    I could care less if USC lost to Oregon State. What does that have to do with the BIG 12? Don't tell me that most of those teams play any defense - they don't. And, neither do most of the teams in the PAC 10 either. The fact is: it's not really impressive that Missouri got 52 on Nebraska. Who doesn't? Didn't Kansas roll 70 on them last year? Nebraska had almost the worst defense in Division I last year - that's why Callahan was canned. You know all of this anyway. You just had to get your shot in at the Trojans. That's okay. I'm gonna be there for you when you lose to Colorado or Iowa State or the Cowboys. Oklahoma is just as notorious as USC is when it comes to losing to crappy teams.
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    If  you read the post in its whole content I said you were bitter because you would not watch the National Title Game if Missouri and Penn State were in it. it was not a "shot'. Like Westcoaster you did read the entire post. By the way it's been awhile since Iowa State beat Oklahoma...you might wanna look that up! The Sooners don't play the Cyclones again until 2010. Will ya' be there for me then?
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Lennie:

    My gripe is that I don't really wanna watch another Big 10 team in the MNC game. I don't mind if it's Missouri. But please - not another Big 10 team. One thing about Penn State though - they do win their bowl games. But, really, it's been established lately that the Big 10 has been overmatched in the Title games. And, I'm not bitter about USC's loss. I've stated all along that we'll lose at least one. We didn't go in the last two years - and I watched those two games just fine. I'd probably have to even watch Missouri/Penn State if that was all that was on. But, if a rerun of "the Simpson's" was on at the same time, I'd probably rather watch that.
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    Me, personally, I don't care who is in it! I want to see the best two teams play! If it's Ball State and Vanderbilt then doggone it''s Ball State and Vanderbilt.
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Lennie:

    Furthermore, as of today, these are the "official NCAA stats" pertaining to total defense:

    Arizona 226.2 ypg - 2nd
    USC 244.0 ypg - 4th
    California 290.0 ypg - 25th
    Oregon State 323.2 ypg - 40th
    Arizona State 324.8 ypg - 42nd

    Oklahoma 256.2 ypg - 11th
    Texas 295.8 ypg - 28th
    Kansas 322.8 ypg - 38th

    I think that even you might be able to see, that the teams at the top of the PAC, play better defense than the teams at the top of the Big 12 (only by the numbers). Now, certainly, the Big 12 would also lead in "Total offense". Does that make it harder for defenses to defend them? Yes. But the fact is: most of these stats have been accrued against OOC foes. We'll know alot more as the year goes on. But for now, it is very clear, that even the top teams in the Big 12 do not play that great of defense.
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    Now goes check points allowed...then get back with me!
  • clemson1981 · 1 year ago
    And one more quick fact:

    Combined Big 12 Points allowed per game: 19.1

    Combined Pac-10 Points allowed per game: 26.3

    Defense much? And lets not forget that WAZU and The Huskies are allowing the most points in the nation, 40 and 44 respectively.
  • WestCoaster · 1 year ago
    If you're going to get ticky tacky, I think the opponents played should also be factored in. The Big 12 has played one of the easiest OOC schedules of all the BCS conferences.

    And the Pac-10 is down this year, so I'm not arguing anything about the Pac 10. Don't come back at me with how the Pac 10 this, or Pac 10 that. I'm not one to usually side with a Trojan, but I don't understand why you would bring up the Pac 10 anyway. He made a comparison to the Pac 10 in the past, but the point of the paragraph was just an observation regarding the Big 12. Regardless of how many points the Pac 10 has given up doesn't change the fact that overall, the Big 12 has a much higher flying offense than strong defense. The conference game scores from last year especially speak volumes to this argument.
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    westcoaster:

    It's just amazing to me, and it's proven over and over again, that you simply have to be from the west coast to have any common sense, the ability to read, and the ability to comprehend what you have read - if you were able to read at all. I sure am glad that the last bastion of civilized thought still resides on the left coast.
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    What a shockingly typical post from you...

    The drivel that spews out of your feeble mind doesn't even warrant responses, anymore...
  • The_Observer · 1 year ago
    Hey look everyone, TE made it through a post without talking about Alabama! Keep it up buddy!
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    TE:

    It's a joke, son. You need to get a sense of humor. It's intended to get a response from someone. I'm amazed that it was you. I was thinkin' that it was gonna come from an Okie. If you can't get my sense of humor - you should probably leave the posts alone. Of course, the left coast, doesn't have any patent on common sense. In fact, all things taken into consideration, there is probably alot less out here than anyplace else. That is obvious - and that is the context of the pun. I'm sure that the combined SAT scores in California are the worst in the country.
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    TE:

    Furthermore, California is a 3rd world country run by the Kennedy's. California was traded to "the Kennedy's" and Vicente Fox as part of the NAFTA agreement. I'm not gonna run you down the whole political spectrum here, or describe the horrendous living conditions, but many folks on here know that I'm on my way out. By football season 2010 (I've been delayed by litigation a year), I'll be in Northern Nevada, and have my whole family out of this state. And, I mean everyone. This is a thing that I have been working on for two years already. The sinking economy is causing me lots of problems - but it is gonna happen. So, try not to take me too seriously. If I bash other sectors of the country, it's all in fun, as there is nothing as disfunctional as California is. It's all over here - and it's not even worth fighting about anymore.
  • clemson1981 · 1 year ago
    Tommy:

    Im glad this discussion has turned into politicalblogs.com in steed of our normal fanblogs.

    Anyways back to my point that I was trying to make from the beginning that all of you continue to ignore for some reason:

    All I am saying is that I as in ME not you not your friend, I would like to see something different this bowl season. Just to clarify. I do realize you probably will pull out California facts again but hopefully you now realize the original purpose of my original paragraph. Now start talking football and not politics.
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Clem1981:

    How does Penn State make it any different? That's about like wanting to see California play for the MNC. Haven't we seen enough of the Big 10 conference yet? I know I have. My bias is based on the fact that we have to get stuck, pounding those teams in the Rose Bowl, year after year after year. Man, I'm the one who wants something different. If you've seen as many Big 10 beatdowns as I have - you'd feel the same way. What I'm telling you is that no Big 10 team belongs in a MNS game. Not until they start winning something. I really want to see a PAC Champ play a SEC Champ for a change - in some BCS bowl game. I can't stand this Rose Bowl contract in this day and age. It's really quite pathetic to me. We are really limiting ourselves to have to continually show up and beat down Big 10 teams. And, it does not do us any good whatsoever.
  • JB · 1 year ago
    i wouldnt either........i bet PSU loses three games this year...........and to the earlier comment from someone about someone else be in the game.......that is dumb...i wonder why those same teams are in it every year ( it couldnt be because the earn it, could it)
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    I can't believe that GA Tech hasn't cracked the top 25 and that Auburn is still ranked...

    Can anyone tell that I'm hiding from my homer site? Man, I'd rather catch spears from strangers than my own brethren...
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    This has got to the tamest Sunday After I have ever seen. No spears anywhere.

    As long as Vandy wins the East its OK right? That is what you said, no?
  • Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago
    No offense, but I was rooting for Vandy, and will be rooting for them to go undefeated.
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    WEA:

    Don't worry, man, your safe in here. If any SEC'ers come in here lookin' for you - I'll blow them out my own dayum self.

    I can't believe that GT isn't ranked either. Auburn just keep getting caught in these pitching duels. It's not like they're gettin' blown out or anything. They look just good enough to keep being ranked. They better get some offense going. This is becoming pretty serious now. I was hoping that Auburn could make things alot more interesting before they year is over. I'm gonna be needing for Alabama to beat LSU and for Auburn to beat Bama - so your boyz need to get on the stick.
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    That's about all we can hope for now is to play spoiler. I think we might be able to get something going before Amen Corner--our last two games against Georgia and Alabama. We can usually work these things out in tyime to have a decent season. We have the personnel, but something's missing.
  • "BC" · 1 year ago
    i agree something's missing.
    a decent OC, a decent QB, decent WRs, and decent DBs, a winning attitude, team chemistry, and hype around the AU program

    thats about it...
    yall lost to vanderbilt (have hit rock-bottom)
  • TigerEducated · 1 year ago
    I'm saving every single one of these posts...

    I'm also about to go find your pre-season prognostication post where you dismantled and trashed your own quarterback...

    Now you're taking shots at Auburn's...

    Nice...

    You stay classy, Trustafarian...
  • The_Central_Scrutinizer · 1 year ago
    WEA - If Tommy T had any sense, he'd petition the NCAA rules committee to grant bonus points for striking the uprights with the ball on a place kick - his guys have shown one helluva knack for it over the years.
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    Hmmm. He IS on the rules committee...

    Shame we didn't get a second chance on that one...
  • The_Central_Scrutinizer · 1 year ago
    Shame we didn't get a second chance on that one...
    Again? Yeah. Doesn't it just *suck* when you can't count on a zebra to pull some bizarre penalty out his crack to give you a mulligan on a PAT?

    Tubby had it coming. :-D
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Auburn ought to petition to move to the PAC 10. That way, they would have plenty of help from the zebras, when times are a goin' bad. You can always count on a PAC referee "to pull some bizarre penalty out his crack" just when you need it the most.
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    Unless you are Washington. Then it goes to the other team.

    Unless the Ref''s are in the know about future expansion plans...
  • Antony George · 1 year ago
    I am a true blood Arkansas Razorback Fan. We are having a bad year, but this week was the best three quarters of football I've seen those guys play all season. That aside, I am a SEC fan. After week one Georgia was taken out of 1st because I believe they said that they didn't play a good enough team that could possibly reach a bowl game. Then how the hell can they justify keeping Oklahoma at number one when they haven't play anybody. I mean they played Baylor. You think there gonna make it to a bowl game. Now I'm no Alabama fan but they played a hell of a game against Kentucky. The SEC is the toughest conference in college football. Hands down they should have put Alabama at number 1. I guess we will see next week when Oklahoma gets it handed to them by Texas. Go Hogs!
  • John · 1 year ago
    This is coming from a non Georgia lover. If Georgia got beat by the #2 team in the country and USC was beaten by an unranked opponent. How could USC be ranked ahead of Georgia? The rankings should be based on games, and how teams play. Teams like USC should not be ranked based on their recruiting class!
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    The rankings appear to consider difficulty of the remaining schedule into the polls. Georgia is seen as more likely to lose a game than USC, so they are knocked down a little for that. This is hurting the SEC a little. The SEC teams can pass others when these close games are played.

    USC is stuck without anyway to pass anyone, as they are already counted as undefeated. If they lose again though, they will fall like a rock, down to around 20.
  • The_Central_Scrutinizer · 1 year ago
    Ben - that's true, but when you look at the round-robin yet to come among the Big12 in the top 10 and the pending King of the Hill tournament in the SEC, PSU and USCw aren't out of the hunt just yet. It's possible the champ of either the B12 or the SEC will run the table but not likely - I think it's probable that both will have 1 loss. PSU's not out of the woods but only needs 1 conference group to collectively fall out of a top slot - USCw needs both of them (or PSU) to get back in.
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    Anyone ranked 17 and above still has a chance. Boise State's is by far the longest shot, but not yet 0.

    Michigan State and Northwestern can't be ruled out yet.

    I am ruling out USCw because I don't think they are done losing yet.
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Ben:

    Las Vegas currently lists both USC and Oklahoma at 5/2 to win the BCS National Championship. Alabama is 3rd at 5/1. Maybe the smart boyz in Vegas have it figured that there is gonna be a way for USC to pass all these teams. Have you ever been to a horse race? The horse that starts out in the lead usually always loses. Then, there is this horse that comes from way down in the back of the pack.......
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    The way is called SOS. The SEC and Big 12 will all lose a game or two, opening a way for USC.

    If I am wrong, and they are done losing, they will have a great chance of getting in.
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    John:

    Southern Cal is ranked based on a 35-3 win over Ohio State and a 44-10 win over Oregon. Both of those wins rival Alabama's wins over Clemson and Georgia. Alabama is rated higher than USC because they have not lost yet. Georgia has no signature wins as of yet this season. As soon as they start getting some - they will rise back up in the polls. The 31-0 halftime deficit against Alabama, at home, did them in. That is gonna be hard to recover from in the eyes of the voters.
  • MIZZOU · 1 year ago
    to get off topic how many of you guys think Texas tech is gonna colapse
  • Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago
    All of us do. ;-)
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Mizzou:

    I do. You got my vote. Haven't ever seen it not happen yet. Etch it into stone.
  • Mr2Bits · 1 year ago
    Big Dance is going to be Big 12 winner vs SEC champ.

    I'm still trying to calculate how many Sperry top-siders were at the GA/Bama game last week. I'm at about two in five attendees right now.

    Anyone there with some overall number would help!
  • clemson1981 · 1 year ago
    Defiantly agree with that first statement I personally would like to see Mizzou go all the way or Penn St. but I see Mizzou or Oklahoma vs. LSU/Bama/UGA pick one haha.

    And my estimation for your second statement: every 9 out of 10 people
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    20 million people in Texas would disagree, we will get our shot at OU and Missu in back to back weeks, then yall can continue with your predictions and waive your dang pomp-pomps, anything is possible at this point in the season.
    Hookem-Horns
  • Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago
    That game this weekend is setting up to be a classic for the ages. Both teams look outstanding. I don't have a clue who's going to take it, but I'm pumped up for it, and I don't even have a dog in that fight.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Ya Clemson Joe
    I wouldnt have responded except 1981 said Missu/OU well they aint played UT yet.
    If he woulda said Missu/OU/UT/TTech/Ok st vs LSU/Bama//Vandy because its way early to be predicting anything.
    Hookem-Horns
  • Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago
    Oh, I wasn't trying to get in on the conversation. It was just a side comment about the game this weekend. What's your take on it?
  • clemson1981 · 1 year ago
    Why should we believe that UT has a shot against OU? I like UT wayyy more than OU, orange is better than red of any kind any day, but OU has owned you guys since Mack became HC. Granted Texas has won in 05 and 06 but only 4 of the last 10 overall. It will be a great game, no doubt but even if you are to beat OU, and I would love it just as much as you, then you get Mizzou. If you guys can beat those two teams back-2-back weeks, then WOW you are the #1 team in the nation and have the fast track to the title game, but I don't see that happening.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Hey clemson 1981 Games are played on the feild not on paper and stats are what you make of them, you can go back 10 years or 100 yrs it doesnt really matter because thats all ancient history. The teams that are playing today, right now this year even with red-shirts are 2-2 against one another 2 outa the last 3 going to Texas and last years game was a real close hard fought game that coulda went either way.
    There is no fast track to anything, could texas beat OU and Missu in back to back weeks, yes its possible, but theres no fast track to anything , even if they were to pull that off next week there is Oklahoma State who will probably beat Missu this weekend and then there's Texas Tech and Kansas could Texas win against all those tough teams week after week- highly unlikely, but you never know, might win half of them, might lose them all, but theres no fast track, because even if by some miracle they survive the guanlet known as the toughest to survive in the nation, then they can play Missu or KU again- aint no fast track to anything. The Horns just started conference play and nothing is automatic for anybody including OU, Missu, OK St, KU and TTech
    Hookem-Horns
  • clemson1981 · 1 year ago
    Tomcat:
    "Hey clemson 1981 Games are played on the feild not on paper and stats are what you make of them"

    Games are indeed played on the field, but what happens on the field goes to paper mighty fast my friend, always has always will.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Clemson1981 We are in agreement, there have been streaks before were UT has one 8 straight in the series-none of that stuff matters. The only thing that really matters is the scoreboard at the end of the game. I'm really kinda glad that OU has had alot of success because that makes it a better rivalry.
    Adios Tomcat