The lead in the AP poll though is tenuous at best. The unofficial BCS standings could be different as well.
Kevin @ Fanblogs
· 1 year ago
Tenuous? They were #5 last week. How much of lead should they be expecting? They've got a gauntlet coming (Mizzou, Okie State, @ Texas Tech) so you have to think that -- if Texas can take care of business -- then they are going to be an exceptionally solid #1 for the rest of the season.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
17 point difference in a poll of 65 voters is not a large margin of separation.
I will give you that Texas will take a definitive lead if they can survive the gauntlet they have the next three weeks. Penn State has a better team in Ohio State then Alabama has in those three weeks and may close some ground.
After then it is off the the races, or losses, for Alabama.
SELIHARRIS
· 1 year ago
So when Bama beats Tenn in Knoxville, Lsu at home, then the auburn tigers. Penn State win over a slow beaten Ohio State will be enouge for the number 2 ranking. Ben, watch more college football. Try the sec. notice the d-line. Every one else is trying to catch the product the sec has. Dont hate on Bama. When we win the Sec west we will get a shot at the sec crown. To me thats more important than what some sports writer thinks.
Zac
· 1 year ago
Don't forget KS!
Zac
· 1 year ago
Kevin, I swear it. After having picked OK to win by 2, I woke up just before leaving for the ACS symposium from a dream in which Tomcat was playfully feeding my crow soup after his Longhorns beat OK by 12 (38-26). I didn't have time to log in and tell you guys about it, and by the time my speech began, the upset was in the making. What's really killing me is my wife forgot to record it AND Syracuse/WVU for me. I tell ya, I can't get a break!!!!!!!!
Jim
· 1 year ago
Ball State is overrated...How can they be ahead of Minnesota?
Zac
· 1 year ago
Consider this, not only are they undefeated (includes win at 5-1 Pitt), but many of Mini's games were won close. I think they're arguably an even match-up myself, but the State of "Ball" is still undefeated...for now.
Kevin @ Fanblogs
· 1 year ago
It pains me to see FSU lose votes during an OFF WEEK. Sheesh.
Zac
· 1 year ago
Kevin, can you explain that anomaly to me? Is it because a team is taking a break or something that they lose pts for an off weekend? If that's the case, then, why don't they give extra pts to teams which win following a short break, like 6 or even 5 days?
Kevin @ Fanblogs
· 1 year ago
Out of sight, out of mind... I suppose.
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
Who is the idiot that thinks that Notre Dame should be #25?
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
In the Harris poll? Probably the same guy who voted Utah #1.
Notre Dame got a point or two in each poll.
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
The Harris, the AP, or the 2 guys in the Coaches (or maybe 1 that voted them 24). Either way, deportation should be enacted for these fools.
Regan
· 1 year ago
AGREE! NOTRE DAME #1!!!!!
LOL, sorry, I don't care, I just love riling people up about the Irish. :)
SELIHARRIS
· 1 year ago
What a joke mccoy is, what would his completion % be if he played in the SEC. Bama would play man coverage and bring the house. We have the players in the seconday to do it...no team in the small 12 can come close. Another year where the SEC fan has to listen to alot of noise untill the last game.. then we had out the beating and everyone in the SEC gets a large check. Its our christmas bonus for having the biggest, loudest, and by far the best of everything. WE ARE JUST BETTER THAN YOU. and you hate it. I understand. I hate myself if i had to watch utah football too. GO BAMA GO BAMA GO BAMA GO
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
SELIHARRIS What you fail to realize is that I watched yalls performance yesterday at home vs Miss, yall scored exactlly zero points in the second half. If Bama played in the B-12 they would not be undefeated. The offense yesterday was totally flat, you gotta put points on the board to win games.You need to understand that Texas played an SEC team this year score was 52-10, learn that football does exist outside of the SEC- there are 107 Div1-A teams that do not belong to the SEC Tenn got destroyed out west and Ark got killed in Austin, I'd like to see more B-12 vs SEC games in the future, maybe the Tide can make it to the Cotton Bowl and face a B-12 team, that would be good, then you can talk noise. The Horns have future dates with Ole Miss, UCLA and Ark I hadnt looked at Bama's future schedule but lately UL Monroe,Tulane, tell Saban to schedule OU again that was a good one Hookem-Horns
Zac
· 1 year ago
Probably the same idiots that will grant them a BCS appearance after they've gone 8-4.
spreadeagle
· 1 year ago
As bad as Auburn is at least I still have the Atlanta Flacons....wow you think that is the first time anyone has ever said that.
U.of S.C.1978
· 1 year ago
LOL, probably not S E. Looks like the Falcons have something this year.
Dirty South
· 1 year ago
It's sad to see that College Football is highly favored on these prestigious teams such as USC, Ohio State, Texas, and Oklahoma. What I don't understand is how can USC lose and 2 weeks later, they're back to No. 4. How can Oklahoma lose and now ranked No. 6. Texas has played only one game on National TV and everybody wants to jump on the Texas bandwagon. I'ma SEC fan and HELLO, this conference has won the last 2 National Championships. The Oklahomas, Texans, Trojans, and Buckeyes get their recognition off beating the hell out of teams that a local High School team can beat, but when they play a worthy team, they choke. They always do. I personally think that Sam Bradford, Mark Sanchez, Terrelle Pryor and Todd Boeckman, and Colt McCoy all are horrible QB's that love to dominate the passing game on cupcake teams. Who can't beat OKLAHOMA now days?? Texas played one game and they're No.1?? If that's the case, Oregon State should be No.1 after beating USC. People don't respect the SEC, but come National Championship time, whoever the BCS decides to pair one of those horrible prestigious teams with one of the SEC teams the nation will see again the your beloved team will get pounded again as always. Respect the teams such as ALABAMA, OKLAHOMA STATE, TEXAS TECH, and BYU because they're all undefeated and the gets no respect in College Football. ROLL TIDE BABY! all them other conferences can get lost while the have the chance!!
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Oklahoma lost to Texas in a game closer than the 10 point score indicated. They deserve their ranking.
USC? They lost to a 3-3 Oregon State. The have an impressive win over Ohio State but other than that they have simply managed to run up the score a few times against teams they are expected to beat.
Which brings us to that impressive win over Ohio State...
6-1 with their best performance a 3 point win over Wisconsin. Since a 3 point win over Fresno State Wisconsin has won 3 straight to bring them to 3-3. Ohio State is over rated.
Ohio State should either earn their rank or get knocked down to reality in the next couple of weeks. USC has no real tests left. If they drop another game I think the love affair will be over.
Tom_Blogical
· 1 year ago
I agree. Ohio State should be ranked somewhere between 20-25. They might drop all the way out if they get blown out by PSU at home like I think they will.
They still have to play MSU on the road before that.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Dirty South Your post is obviuosly based upon regional bias and ignorance and probably doesn't even warrart a response, I'm going to go off on you, but I think you should probably take a step back and read this again. Everybody wants to jump on the Texas bandwagon-do what? get recognition out of beating the hell out of teams a local high school can beat ? Do you mean like Arkansas( SEC) 52-10 or Rice 52-10 a team that hung with Vanderbilt (SEC)or Colorado. Show me that high school team. Respect the teams like OK State & Texas Tech- heck we play those teams every year we respect them alot.- your post doesnt make any sense. Colt McCoy is a horrible QB ? Do What? You seen any games? I guess not The B-12 south division has 4 teams in the top ten nationally, will any excape unbeaten:? That remains to be seen, its early in the season. I would love to see a Alabama vs Texas game,maybe that can happen I would prefer to see Alabama #1 myself- who knows right now PSU ?? OK St?? Whatever you just got to prepare every week and do your best against your opponent all that other crap rankings etc etc will take care of itself Hookem-Horns
DizzOU08
· 1 year ago
Man, thats the first poll in awhile that I have seen that made any sense. I am a devoted OU fan, but I hope that Colt Mccoy starts getting the Heisman talk over that fat crybaby Chase Daniel. Sure glad we aint in that number one slot anymore. No more pressure now!Boomer Sooners!!!!!!!!
Zac
· 1 year ago
I don't know who'll win the Heisman, but here's my take on the Top-10:
1 Tx 2 Penn St 3 OK St 4 AL 5 FL 6 OK 7 BYU 8 USC 9 UT 10 Boisie St
Call me nuts, if you will; you won't be the 1st or the last.
Ah, he's using the state abbreviation. That threw me off.
Zac
· 1 year ago
That's it! I'm done being lazy; I'll spell it out from now on...promise!
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
LOL. Thanks.
USC1801
· 1 year ago
Dirty South:
Ours is not the only conference playing football, just like the SEC isn't comprised of just Alabama, Tennessee, LSU and Florida. But if you listened to the media, you'd think so. A tradition of winning doesn't hurt Alabama, just like it doesn't hurt Texas, SoCal, and OU. I don't know what your gripe is about since Alabama is ranked #2 - Give it time, if you think Texas is underserving, then the'll eventually lose over the course of the next three games.
Sonny
· 1 year ago
I think UT must be Utah?
Hotty_Toddy
· 1 year ago
errr...
#2 NO MORE!
fosterkeats
· 1 year ago
Tejas will lose 2 of the next 3...
Alabama is the only strong team left...
Zac
· 1 year ago
I don't know... I still like Joe Pa & Penn St. Winning at Camp Randal the way they did, that's saying something. Then, if Bama gets to the SEC championship game, they still have to likely get past FL. Lots of football left. It'll be fun to see how it all develops.
carnygators
· 1 year ago
gators!
JB
· 1 year ago
I have a question, does anyone on here think thst if LSU wins at home vs UGA and ALA, they can be back in it? I mean, UGA looks beatable and i personally dont think that Nick Saban could coach a Pro Bowl team to a win in Tger stadium...(all considering they beat Tulane SC Ark and Ole Miss)
TigerEducated
· 1 year ago
You don't play for a national title if you get 51 points scored on you...Period.
LSU needs to focus on shoring up the defense and rededicating themselves as a team to the running game next Saturday at South Carolina.
We need to go back to basics this week, stop reading press-clippings, and focus on the task at hand...
JB
· 1 year ago
I agree...but i think that the secondary is as weak as i have seen in my life time ( only years but still).....i mean, ii could have deflected that pass to harvin
i agree about the running game I would like to see charles get the ball more on O
i really think that les will have them QUIET and ready to play against SC.......
I think the ranking can play to our advantage in two weekss...it has been a while since wqe have been an underdog at home, much less out of the top ten. All of that said, i dont thinkthey need to over look the Gamecocks either
TigerEducated
· 1 year ago
Wow...Your lifetime? You don't remember the days of Demetrius "Hook-fear" Hookfin, Chris Cummings, and the like as a freshman & sophomores...
You don't remember the days of a 5-6 Auburn team coming in and throwing for 246 on us, do you?
Our secondary in 2001-a year in which we won a conference championship and a BCS Bowl-was part of the worst defense in LSU History...
That's right, statistically speaking, the 2000 & 2001 season were the two worst defenses in modern LSU Football history...
This defense is far better than they are so far...
How old are you, JB?
JB
· 1 year ago
Yea i was 10 and all i knew was Geaux Tigers
JB
· 1 year ago
16 haha
TigerEducated
· 1 year ago
Ahh...Okay...That explains a lot....
Friend...I have seen some SH!TTY defenses in Tiger Stadium in the past decade...The last two years of the DiNardon't Era were especially reprehensible...
JB
· 1 year ago
once again...i was below the age limit of actually knowing what is going on...the first 'real year' i can remember was the Sugar Bowl year in 2001...when we beat Tenn to win the SEC and Illinois in the Sugar.....but not much before that..and even then i had just turned nine
Bevo_Boy
· 1 year ago
JB, maybe it's somewhat different where you live, but did you suddenly have a bunch of Notre Dame and Texas (maybe Bama for you) just sort of pop out of nowhere at your high school? I'm glad that more people are supporting Texas, but it bothers me when people call themselves fans of a team and don't know who the starting quarterback is (I've asked 3 people who didn't know who Colt McCoy was and they said they were Texas fans and have been for years. I wonder why no one knew that before they beat OU?). Maybe it's just me, but I'm not a fan of the summer soldier or the sunshine patriot (sorry, writing an essay for english over the colonial period, figure if I at least incorporate that a little bit I'm not completely off task :-) )
Zac
· 1 year ago
Leave it to Bevo to finally come outta the wood-work. Where ya been? You finally get "un-grounded" or something. What do think of this past Saturday's game? How do you think TX'll fair against Mizzu?
JB
· 1 year ago
YES!!!!! I actually have a few friends who have decided that they are now huge Notre Dame fans. They Bama thing is different....there is a strong alleigence to LSU here and being a Bama bandwagon fan would be a two years worth of torment.......I do have one friend who is now a Florida fan just since Saturday....and he doesnt even know who the coach is....but yes we have the same problems with ND fans though. But due to LSU's monopoly over the college football here in Central Louisiana, there arent many Texas or SEC bandwagoneers
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Hey Leave it to Bevo Welcome back Dude, been holding down the fort for weeks against half a dozen or so Sooners. Did yall get the Arkansas & Colorado games up there, I realize now that alot of games like UTEP & Rice were regional broadcast, living down here the only game not televised was the FAU game, we attended that one Hookem-Horns
Bevo_Boy
· 1 year ago
Sorry guys, still just really busy. My classes this year all give me homework regularly, and English has me writing essays for homework every day, which I have to spend about two hours on to get a decent grade. Right now we have a speech for English: What is an American? We have to make a comparison, so I'm using Colt McCoy. I was kind of surprised that I could do that since he is an American, but it made my writing assignment so much easier. Yeah we got both of those games, but I didn't get a chance to watch the Arkansas one.
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
You don't play for a National Title if you get 51 points scored on you? What? Did not the Tigers of Louisiana State play for the National Title last year? Did not the Razorbacks of Arkansas hang half hun'red on them? That is 50 points. Did not the Wildcats of Kentucky drop 43 points on 'em? It's not half hun'red but close enough! I guess 50 is the cut-off this year!
TigerEducated
· 1 year ago
You beat me to it...
First, we gave up 51 points...
Second, we gave 50 up in 3 overtimes...and we gave up 14 points in the 1st two with a touchdown apiece, and then we gave up 8 points in the final OT stanza...
Same thing in Lexington, as well...
But, like I said...Our focus needs to be on South Carolina...Nothing but Columbia...
GA_Boy
· 1 year ago
But if you get 50 points scored on you 2 games before the National Championship game? Do you think they would let you play for the national title then? Oh yeah that was overtime points and Arkansas was such a good 8-5 team that year. Where is the TE we have come to know? Keep talking trash bro' because the Tigers proved last year that anything can happen. I like your back to the basics theory too.
GO DAWGS!
WestCoaster
· 1 year ago
Based on what I've seen on TV, I really think Penn State looks like the #1 team. They seem to be clicking on all cylinders. I think Mizzou is going to come into Austin with a chip on their shoulder and expose Texas's weak running game, forcing Colt McCoy to pass more. I know he had a good game against OK, but I'm still not sold on his ability, especially based on what I've seen in the past.
I think LSU got exposed and were rated too highly based on their accomplishments last season. The haven't had a quality win all season, as Auburn was clearly over rated as well. I think Auburn MUST win in Morgantown in two weeks to really be taken seriously again this season.
The Coastal Division of the ACC seems like a three team race among VT, UNC, and GT. I'm excited to see how that turns out. Wake Forest looks good in the Atlantic, but FSU has a chance if they can get a couple breaks.
I'm interested to see how MSU fares hosting Ohio State this coming weekend. My Bears beat them in Berkeley, but many teams are gelling in a way much different than in the beginning of the season. A win over Ohio State will legitimize them as true contenders for the Big Ten.
I think my Golden Bears haven't really earned their ranking yet, as that loss at Maryland is pretty inexcusable. Since the Pac 10 looks weak due to so many injuries, Cal has to beat USC to truly be considered a top tier team. I do think that Cal is better than Pitt though, especially when Jahvid Best is in the game.
Just some thoughts...
"BC"
· 1 year ago
id say there's about a 34.53516% chance we'll win out.
then about a 60% chance we'll beat florida in atlanta.
then about a 65% chance we'll beat Texas in miami.
that means there's a 13.4687124% chance Nick Saban will be holding the BCS crystal football come January without a loss.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Hey BC are you a mathematics major-? In order for Tex to advance, they would have to win 7 more 5 against ranked teams- odds are heavily stacked against them right now looks like, the next 3 could go either way, so what are the odds? Missu & OK State at home TTech & KU on the road BU could be a spoiler- never know Texas A&M in state rival- always give 100% then a 12 champ game if they make it that far against Missu or KU again!! Thanks Tomcat
"BC"
· 1 year ago
haha. no, i think math is boring. i do, however, like statistics. but im not a stats major either. but, im gonna take a break from my math homework to give you your chances.
i have come up with this:
43.943328% chance that Texas will win out
then a 65% chance Texas will win the rematch with Missouri
then a 35% chance Texas will beat Alabama in Miami
means there is a 9.99710712% chance Mack Brown will be holding the BCS crystal without a loss.
Implies Chance Alabama Meets Texas in Miami: 15.1% (.345*.439*100%) Chance Alabama beats Texas in Miami: 9.8% (.345*.439*.65*100%) Chance Texas beats Alabama in Miami: 5.3% (.345*.439*.35*100%)
I think your chances for Texas are a little high. I get 24.8% before the Big 12 championship and 14.9% after. With a loss by Penn State and USC, Texas and/or Alabama could drop a close one and still meet, increasing the odds above.
For the record: This is probability and combinatorics, strongly in the realm of math. Statistics is much more dry, more like accounting with an error estimate. Give me a standard deviation for your probability estimates and I will agree this is statistics.
"BC"
· 1 year ago
yeah, this is probability. youre right. i just used the basic principle that winning one coin toss = 50% winning two coin tosses = 25% but i learned that in Algebra III/Stats
haha and don't critique me on my predictions. you predicted auburn had the best chance of going undefeated in the SEC. and im not gonna seek help until i know what that stuff in the parentheses means.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
My Baysian prior was off for Auburn, the likelyhood function for the games played thus far has since deminished their outlook.
Alabama's stock has likewise gone up significantly.
And I never think any team in the SEC has a better than 7.5% chance to go undefeated any given year. Maybe USC can get up to 20%, but even that favors a loss or two along the way.
U.of S.C.1978
· 1 year ago
I'm gonna step up right here, I believe the Cocks will win out.
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
Spoken like a true Carolina fan. Always the eternal optimist about your 'cocks.
"BC"
· 1 year ago
moving right along.
there is a 2.178% chance the cocks will win out.
okay. back to math............
OU_Fan
· 1 year ago
I'm curious to see how for real the Oklahoma State Cowboys are. That team is looking impressive. But then again, Mizzou has no defense so we'll just have to see. But then again, OU's defense is not that great either so who am I to say that a team has no defense.
BOOMER!
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Fan, States defense has to be decent in order to hold MO's offense down, or it could have been a case where MO was looking ahead to Texas, either way it was the first time I found myself cheering for OSU........what's really bad is that I will pull for Texas when they play MO......I'm getting too old for this crap........
PrinceMarko
· 1 year ago
Florida is getting no respect in the polls besides the AP poll.
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
My Tigers have shown me no reason to think that 9-3 is not outside the realm of possibility. There's some serious work that needs to be done on the defensive side of the ball. Hopefully, the Florida loss will humble them (players) and piss them off as well.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
tyler_tech
· 1 year ago
maybe its because they lost to ole miss marko.......
"BC"
· 1 year ago
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
BC:
You don't say?
"BC"
· 1 year ago
just advertising myself. like a billboard. caught your attention huh?
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
BC:
Couldn't miss it. I thought that maybe you had a thought - and suddenly realized that you didn't. Is that even possible? What's your take on the Mississippi game? It's about time for Bama to rest on their laurel's - don't you think? Don't answer the latter part. With all these top teams goin' to sleep - maybe Bama could slip up also?
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
BC:
Oh, and BTW, how's your girlfriend's Daddy's portfolio been doing? You know that your future depends on it, right? You don't think that "the Old Man" might be having reservations about investing in another "bad investment", do you? Well, fortunately, the stocks have rebounded today. That might delay "the decision" for awhile......
Bevo_Boy
· 1 year ago
If I had been on yesterday you would have been "h"ed.
JB
· 1 year ago
Where have you been Bevo????
rick
· 1 year ago
1. There are no ohter conferences the same calibur as the SEC. 2. Polls are a total joke no matter which one you look at. 3. ESPN and other entities decide who is number 1 in the nation by telling the general audiences. (see #4) 4. The general audience is ignorant. They only say what they hear, not what they know. 5. The SEC will once again show why its teams are the most talented and best coached in the nation come Championship time. 6. The SEC will never get respect from ESPN or the polls until National Championship time. 7. Go DAWGS!!!!!
Bama_DevilDog
· 1 year ago
All but # 7 I agree totally!
bignick
· 1 year ago
all sounds like repeats from SEC newspapers or ESPN to me, so what does that tell you??
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Hey rick, believe it or not football does exist outside of the SEC conference 119 Div-1A college football programs thats 107 teams that do not belong to the SEC #6 on the contrary SEC gets alot of acolades from the press and Media BTW the polls had UGa as #1 at one time if I recall correctly #4 the general audience is ignorant- are you part of the general audience ? #2 at this point in the season, polls dont mean much, give it a few weeks and it will look alot different, hate to say it but in the B-12 and SEC teams are going to whup each other and those boys from the PAC-10 and B-10/11 are smiling and licking their chops watching the B-12 whup each other,as the best teams in the country face the toughest competition and a similar situation exist in the SEC Adios Tomcat
Tyler_Tech
· 1 year ago
your right rick.......NOT! sounds like your just twisting alot of facts, and saying things to get your own personal opinion across. We all have our teams, but your blinded by bias and probably making a case for your CONFERENCE because your team has allready been defeated.
Glass_Joe
· 1 year ago
Interesting that in the Coaches poll there is a much bigger gap between #8 BYU and #9 Georgia (133) then there is between #4 USC and #8 BYU (55).
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
I think the gaps in the listings show a lot more about where a team is than simply looking at the ranking alone. The gaps show where significant consensus exists and groups teams that are close. It is much easier to slide a few spots in a cluster than to cross into another group, unless you lose, where you fall down a few clusters.
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Hypothetical Question, I know--I know, this will never happen, but what if.... Texas wins out.. Oklahoma wins out... Alabama loses one.. Penn State loses one.. Would this be a BCS nightmare ?????
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
OU_Ron:
No disrespect to your team on this. But, I think I know where your going. This is the BCS nightmare: that Oklahoma wins out! Seriously, Texas would have to lose twice before Oklahoma gets into the Big 12 Championship game. Therefore, Oklahoma could win out, not even play in the Big 12 Championship, and get invited to play for the National Championship. This is a very real possibility - as Oklahoma did not drop very far in the polls. I, personally don't have much to bitch about, as the PAC doesn't play a Conference Championship. But, I know that many others will definately question that. Furthermore, Oklahoma could even end up ranked # 1, and not play in the Big 12 Championship. This is gonna cause a major problem. Therefore, for the sake of the BCS system, you'd better hope that the Sooners lose at least one more. LOL!
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Nice...
If Florida and USC lose one also, A RRR rematch would be guaranteed.
The most likely BCS scenario (Penn State vs Alabama) has about a 7% chance of happening, by my reckoning. It is WAY to early to say what will happen, but never too early to dream about what MAY happen!
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Ben, that would have to be the biggest cluster f#%k in the history of the BCS, LOL
TampaGator
· 1 year ago
Nightmare? Could potentially be a dream scenario: Oklahoma v. Ohio State--to determine once and for all, who's the biggest choker of them all!
GO GATORS!!
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Well TG, I can't argue your point, we have been bad in most big game, although your point would be better taken if Florida and OU would have played each other in the last several years, or if your team was an unstopable powerhouse, which it isn't........so I'll just shit can your point just like i do with the rest of your smart ass remarks......
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
I think both you guys are cool but...Ron....that last sentence is the funniest thing I've read all damn week! Thank you, sir.
No offense TG, my dyslexic brother.
BTW, did you hear about the suicidal dyslexic? He threw himself behind the bus! DYSLEXICS OF THE WORLD...UNTIE !
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
TampaGator
· 1 year ago
Dyslexic? I don't get it; where'd I confuse letters?
GO GATORS!!
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
You didn't man. You're TG, and I'm GT.....forget it bro..lol.
It was a bad joke. Never happen again, I promise.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
OU Ron ole TG's post was kinda a low blow, the Sooners didnt choke at all and the Sooners have only lost one game to a ranked opponent, the Gator fans are just plum giddy with their LSU win and have kinda forgot about losing to the unranked Rebels, maybe the Sooners can get Fla in a bowl that be purty cool. One thing I found interseting about the UT vs OU game- thats probably the first game all season that the first string for both teams played four quarters, because both teams have whuped their opponents Good luck con los fighting Manginos
TampaGator
· 1 year ago
TC:
It wasn't a reference to this week's game--OU had a respectable showing, this week. It was a reference to past flops. I'd direct you to my reply to OU Ron, but I'm not sure where it is--I think it went down to the bottom (can't make it stick where it belongs).
b/t/w: Gators ain't "plum giddy" over win v. LSU. We're duly satisfied, but we know there's a lot of FB ahead of us, and for all the talk of Texas' guantlet,UF's schedule ain't exactly a walk in the park: v. UGA, Kentucky, South Carolina, Vandy, and FSU. Granted, UGA isn't looking as tough as before the season, but Kentucky, Vandy, USC and FSU are ALL tough games. We ain't takin' anything for granted.
GO GATORS!!
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Hey TG I'd be completely out of character to side with OU on anything and I for one always pull against them in every game. I really have to admit that we as Texas fans are fed up and sick hearing about how Ou owns Texas and why Brown cant beat Stoops etc etc, streaks go back and fourth Texas has now won 3 outa the last 4 against OU. Both teams being in the same division in the same league is pretty wild. Much like the SEC we tend to beat each other up 04 for example, Texas only had one loss to OU, in 03 Texas beat KSU OU beat Texas KSU beat OU, Same thing like 07 OU beat Texas, Texas beat Texas Tech, Texas Tech beats OU, in 06 the B-12 champ game featured Neb vs OU two teams that Texas beat during regular season, but dropped 2 conference games so your outside looking in even after beating OU. These leagues B-12 and SEC are loaded with really good teams and your right that there is alot of CFB to be played. Who woulda ever thought a two loss team would play in the MNC game? Half way through the season is way too early to start talking Nat champ senerios bout whos in out whatever, have to take care of each opponent and I hope the UT boys can focus and not get too cocky/overconfident, because every team labeled #1 goes down week after week. Too bad that Texas Tech vs Oklahoma State is not early in the season like last year- 07 OK St over TTech TTech over OU OU over OK St sound familiar-kinda like yalls league Adios Tomcat Hookem-Horns
TampaGator
· 1 year ago
OU-Ron:
Touchy subject, huh? LOL!
"...your point would be better taken if Florida and OU would have played each other in the last several years..."
OU didn't need to get pasted by UF to become established as a choker. OU's flops against LSU, USC (blow out), Boise State and WVU measure up nicely against tOSU's back to back NC face plants--no need to dabble in hypotheticals to establish a hypothetical.
"...I'll just shit can your point just like i do with the rest of your smart ass remarks..."
In case you haven't figured it out, this is a blog. It's all one big shit can, so I'm sure my posts will be in fine company--along with yours.
GO GATORS!!
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
If it's such a shit forum, why do you even participate in it, someone with your superior intelect and knowledge should be solving problems and giving advice elsewhere........I don't recall anyone from Ohio State or Oklahoma saying anything to you when Florida lost to Ole Miss at home, don't you consider that a big game, especially where Florida was ranked and Title considerations on the line........I think you just like to post shit that you think is funny so you can laugh at yourself.....so have at it...you already know what I do with it...
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
OU Ron...forget the nonsense! Just go to his grill! If Oklahoma played Florida, If Oklahoma this, If Oklahoma that, If Florida this, If Florida that. Until these teams play no one knows!
TampaGator
· 1 year ago
OU-Ron:
Again--the comment was in reference to the BOWLS--not the Texas game--because this thread is about the BCS--not the AP rankings; in fact, YOUR POST, to which I replied--was about OU finishing in the NC.
As for comments re. the Ol Miss game--I'd happily welcome them, but I'm pretty sure that the reason no OSU or OU fan has made any comments, is because they knew they'd be eating them.
Frankly I don't know or care what you do with my comments, but judging from how worked up you're getting over them, I ain't buying the "shit can" bit. You obviously take this stuff WAY TOO SERIOUSLY--so I'll just keep pok'n, then sit back and read your angry posts about how little you care about mine--LMAO!!!
BOOMER dude!
GO GATORS!!
TampaGator
· 1 year ago
OU Ron (Take 3):
Touchy subject, huh?
OU's flops v. LSU, USC (blow out), Boise State and WVU measure up nicely against tOSU's back to back NC face plants--no need to deal in hypotheticals (UF pasting OU) to establish one.
GO GATORS!!
GA_Boy
· 1 year ago
Not at all, as long as the one that Bama loses is to a one loss GA or FLA in the SEC championship game and then the SEC champ plays Texas in MNC. End of story.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Purty funny stuff Ron and your right -highly unlikely right now looks like PSU & Bama have the best chance to make it Why in the world isnt OK state higher? they show no weakness-undefeated BTW BU whuped IA st big time they could be a spoiler in a few games for B-12 opponents
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
TC, I agree about Baylor and Okla State.......Baylors QB reminds me of VY.....He will be a force to recon with in the future.....BTW, I hope the Horns send MO back home with their heads hanging down...
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
They run a lot of screens, and OU burned Texas on some, miscommunication problems, Glad the Horns have them at home and yes college gameday coming to Austin- maybe Corso will put on a Tigerhead, always scares the H outa me when he puts a Bevo head. McCoy is only completing 79.2 % of his passes- think Miller DE dropped is one and only pass for his career Texas D gave up 35 points to OU, but only 48 rushing yards OK state picked off Daniel 3 times last week, winning the TO battle & the game Here again Texas needs to win the TO battle Kindle #2 has new position not LB anymore DPR desginated pass rusher Daneil will have to fire fast because they are going put heat on him- Kicking game edge- Texas 7 outa 7 field goals 100% Home Feild 93,000 plus, they wont be able to hear anything-edge Texas here again looks tough- the Horns will have to win the takeaways and limit mistakes penalties, turnovers, blown coverages to get the W Hookem-Horns BTW Pinkle is 0-3 vs Brown
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
TC, the word out of Austin is " Shipley is still open "
GA Dawg 47
· 1 year ago
How in the hell does a team that lost to (non ranked) Ole Miss jump the Georgia Bulldogs in the AP Poll? Oklahoma State beats Missouri. **WOW** Who has Missouri beat? ILLINIOS by 10 points. What about USC who lost to a no name (non ranked) Oregon State team. Of course they are above us in the poll as well. I mean give us a break. Georgia lost to the #2 ranked team in the nation by 11 points. We will never catch break like USC and Florida.
The_Observer
· 1 year ago
Saying that you lost by 11 points is being a little dishonest. Everyone saw the beatdown that the Dawgs were given at home (and I do mean EVERYONE)!
All that aside, I understand your frustration, but Georgia is just going to have to wait it out and hope everyone forgets witnessing the proverbial murdering of its NC hopes on national television.
TampaGator
· 1 year ago
"...How in the hell does a team that lost to (non ranked) Ole Miss jump the Georgia Bulldogs in the AP Poll? ...Georgia lost to the #2 ranked team in the nation by 11 points..."
Here's how: UGA was emasculated by Alabama--on national television, when it was supposed to show its stuff. Florida lost an off the radar, intra-conference squeaker fluke--then turned around and emasculated the reigning national champs.
You see? It's a simple matter of who still has their nut sacks intact, and who has anything left in 'em. In other words...
....the 'dawgs dun bin fixed.
That's how.
GO GATORS!!
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
TG:
I'm always amazed at how easily, the proverbial "off the radar, intra-conference squeaker fluke", goes over in the SEC. Somehow, it just seems okay when it happens in the SEC. Not that I disagree with anything you've said - cause we all know that "Mississippi plays in the SEC". Therefore they are definately one of the Top Ten teams in the country.
blackdawg
· 1 year ago
We may have been emasculated but that neutered dawg put 30 points on Bama in the second half (30-10). Never the less, we are 5-1 and still have some big games left. Plenty of opportunity ahead. I'm not worried about the polls, just the OL. The veterinarians in Athens are putting a lot of busted knees back together.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
GA Dawg 47 sounds like a victory chain type of thing going on right ? Tex> Ark>Aub>Miss St> Vanderbilt> Ole Miss>Fla > LSU
bignick
· 1 year ago
does anyone else but me find SEC fans somewhat ignorant??? i mean no disrespect(or maybe i do!) All they ever do is poll for their teams being number one, even if they lost embarrasing games to unranked teams or decent teams... no matter if it was a squeaker or not, Florida should not lose to unranked Ole Miss.... even though it was ONLY by 11 points and to a ranked opponent, UGA's lost to Alabama(i hate Nick Saban) was an embarrasment, especially after being down 31-0 after the first half. LSU, good defense or bad defense, does not deserve to be anywhere near the National Championship game after being annhilated, emasculated, embarrased by Florida last weekened... you guys need to keep Jean-Francois' mouth shut, sew it up or something, because he became a national punchline.... now, I am a Texas fan, and at this point, they deserve #1, but at least I am realistic, because I don't think they will survive the gauntlet of Mizzou, OK State, Texas Tech, Baylor(hopefully somewhat of a break), and Kansas, and if you SEC fans think that you have the best conference in football, by all means, go ahead, but be careful about what you say, because look at the Big 12- 4 teams in the top ten, 6 teams in the top 25, and it's not because these teams lost to unranked teams or got emasculated, annhillated, whatever.... OU lost to TX in probably the most exciting game in that rivalry, OK State was able to show up on defense to take a 5 point, exciting win over Mizzou..... so learn the facts and maybe, just maybe once, watch what you say because you may be eating those words at some point.....
The_Observer
· 1 year ago
I know that I have been criticized for pointing out grammar mistakes, but I just can't help giving this guy the crown for the longest sentence in 2008! I believe I am justified since he is ranting about ignorance. Please enjoy...
"LSU, good defense or bad defense, does not deserve to be anywhere near the National Championship game after being annhilated, emasculated, embarrased by Florida last weekened... you guys need to keep Jean-Francois' mouth shut, sew it up or something, because he became a national punchline.... now, I am a Texas fan, and at this point, they deserve #1, but at least I am realistic, because I don't think they will survive the gauntlet of Mizzou, OK State, Texas Tech, Baylor(hopefully somewhat of a break), and Kansas, and if you SEC fans think that you have the best conference in football, by all means, go ahead, but be careful about what you say, because look at the Big 12- 4 teams in the top ten, 6 teams in the top 25, and it's not because these teams lost to unranked teams or got emasculated, annhillated, whatever.... OU lost to TX in probably the most exciting game in that rivalry, OK State was able to show up on defense to take a 5 point, exciting win over Mizzou..... so learn the facts and maybe, just maybe once, watch what you say because you may be eating those words at some point"
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 1 year ago
Technically speaking, three periods (...) count as one. It's just a way to let the point linger for a second. I do it all the time. However, within that was this gem, which qualifies as a winner:
now, I am a Texas fan, and at this point, they deserve #1, but at least I am realistic, because I don't think they will survive the gauntlet of Mizzou, OK State, Texas Tech, Baylor(hopefully somewhat of a break), and Kansas, and if you SEC fans think that you have the best conference in football, by all means, go ahead, but be careful about what you say, because look at the Big 12- 4 teams in the top ten, 6 teams in the top 25, and it's not because these teams lost to unranked teams or got emasculated, annhillated, whatever....
Whew! That took forever to retype that...
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
<right click>, <copy>, <paste> is your friend WEA...lol.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 1 year ago
haha! You know I'm just kidding!!!
Really...
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Observer:
I was just about to maybe agree with "Big Nikki" - but you've clearly changed my mind. As many of you can see, our friend the Observer, has clearly indicated who might be "the most ignorant fan". Unmask that masked man!
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
I simply point out the argument that it takes one to know one.
By this construct bignick is more than qualified to determine how ignorant SEC fans are, as your evidence clearly points out.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Big Nikki:
I hear that everything in Texas is BIG - except for your Johnson and your brain. Is any of that true? Tell us all about it? You drive a Big Ol' Truck, stand about 5'1 and weigh in at about 125 soak and wet? Still live with momma?
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
Hey Tommy Trojan...Let him make it. He's alright folk. The man don't think the SEC is all that. I don't think the SEC is all that. I ain't gone describe my body parts and I don't live with my momma! Crimson & Cream True, STILL!
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Lennie:
Thanx for not. But, I needed a good laugh and was hopin' that he would "expose himself". Sadly, he didn't bite...
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
Hey Big Nick...I agree with. Go get a logo(picture) to go with your name so you can be legit!
bignick
· 1 year ago
oh yea, and USC.... completely overrated.... for example, see Oregon State
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Big Nikki:
Glad that you slipped that one in. What we need is more "original thinkers" like yourself. Great post!
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
LMAO. Subtle, yet to the point. A hint of sarcasm......but it may get missed by most.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
GT0107:
What? I'm dead serious. We just don't get enough of that out here. LMAO! This stuff is just comical. I am warming up to the idea that we probably are overrated though, I mean, everybody says so.
I can clearly see how the team with the best overall record over the last 6 1/2 season, with the best record against all OOC opposition, and having beat all those teams by the largest scoring margin - is clearly overrated. Add in that they have won the most BCS Bowl games (by the largest margins of victory), and beaten the most Top 25 teams over that time span, and it becomes crystal clear. It's practically a slam dunk. Heck, they only have one "Crystal Ball". That's proof enough! I'm sold.
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
Speaking of OOC, it looks like LSU and WVU are setting up a home and home series for 2010 and 2011 with the first being in Red Stick. That's great news for both programs. To think people say that we don't like to travel.
Washington next year then West Virginia following that.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 1 year ago
Ahhh. You guys don't like to travel...
You think they'll still have White and Devine then???
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
GT0107:
Well, if you just want to "go on vacation", those are some pretty good spots. The fishing is pretty good up there on the Columbia River. The scenery is beautiful also. But, if you were lookin' for a football game, I doubt if your gonna find one in the state of Washington. I'm kinda with WEA on the West Virginia thing also. Pat White is gonna be gone for sure. LSU will pound that team back into the stoneage. So, I hope that there is something else better to do in West Virginia. I hear that those "hillbilly women" are alot of fun, but while watching a Marshall game, I couldn't help but notice how dayum ugly they all really were. Obviously, you boyz are gonna have to be real careful, not to make their fathers and brothers too upset while your all up there. Watch out for birdshot...
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
I guess I worded that wrong....Instead of "to think people say that we don't like to travel", it should have said...to think people say that we don't travel. At any rate, I would say that no one "likes" to travel but I heard it mentioned by someone a while back that LSU doesn't travel, plays all of their games in Louisiana, blah, blah, blah. It was just a rebuttal to that, albeit an innocent one.
And I honestly didn't give any thought to White or Devine being there, though I should've. That definitely changes the landscape of things, unless they have someone waiting in the wings who can step up. The same scenario bit us on the azz a few years back with Arizona St. As far as Washington, I know, I know...they're not exactly mowing down the competition. Looks like Ty is probably gonna be looking for new gig soon so they'll be rebuilding (or maybe building, period). If Kiffin lands that job...and I don't know why he'd want to...he'll get 'em turned around, but not in one year. I heard his name mentioned with Washington and 'Cuse so who knows where he's going. Personally, I'd love to see him at Clemson just so I could watch them play. I get a few of their games a year and I always enjoy watching the maturation of a program under a new coach.
Concerning vacation spots and West Virginia, nah..don't see that happening but I get the jist of where you were heading with that. For some odd reason, the dueling banjo song comes to mind everytime I hear the word Virginia. However, I do visit Myrtle Beach once a year to play in a golf tournament. It's always a blast. The golf is top notch and we party hard at a few places in the pm. Shucker's and Marty's immediately come to mind.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
GT:
I get the "country roads" theme from John Denver pop into my melon. I try and stay away from the dueling banjos thing, as everytime that melody blasts thru my brain, somebody close by ends up "squeelin' like a pig". LOL! I'm trying to rehabilitate.
Oh, I remember that LSU did travel to Arizona State. There is simply more money to be had in the South. That's about it. I don't consider that LSU is one of them teams that tries to duck competition. There is a fine line now with that BCS system. You have to schedule just enough OOC strength - in order to pull it off at the end. LSU has taken on Virginia Tech last year, Fresno State and some others. They have tried to keep that upwards.
Kiffen could end up at Washington. Wouldn't be a bad gig for him. He might even come in 2nd. So, it wouldn't really surprise me if he pulls the trigger on that one. Yep, it'll take awhile though. But, they do have some pretty good players up there. The state of Washington does produce some really good 5-star players. Just not enough of them. If he could keep them all in state, while grabbing up some of the table scraps in Los Angeles, he could rebuild that program. I know that he'd be better off at Clemson - but I think that he'll probably land in Washington for awhile.
NMLSooner
· 1 year ago
I wonder if Jim Mora would back out of the Seahawks job to take the Washington job. I remember him in getting in trouble in Atlanta for making that statement. That's a lot of money to give up, but if he likes Seattle that much he's more likely to have a longer career in college.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Just like Miami ten years ago...
GA_Boy
· 1 year ago
Oh yeah, and by the way... you need to watch your words before you run the gaunlet....until then be careful what you say...because you don't want your mouth to bite off more than you can chew, (in other words don't write a check that your but can't cash...), so by all means, don't let the door hit ya, where the good lord split ya, for pete's sake.
All Comments
The lead in the AP poll though is tenuous at best. The unofficial BCS standings could be different as well.
I will give you that Texas will take a definitive lead if they can survive the gauntlet they have the next three weeks. Penn State has a better team in Ohio State then Alabama has in those three weeks and may close some ground.
After then it is off the the races, or losses, for Alabama.
Notre Dame got a point or two in each poll.
LOL, sorry, I don't care, I just love riling people up about the Irish. :)
Tenn got destroyed out west and Ark got killed in Austin, I'd like to see more B-12 vs SEC games in the future, maybe the Tide can make it to the Cotton Bowl and face a B-12 team, that would be good, then you can talk noise.
The Horns have future dates with Ole Miss, UCLA and Ark
I hadnt looked at Bama's future schedule but lately UL Monroe,Tulane, tell Saban to schedule OU again that was a good one
Hookem-Horns
USC? They lost to a 3-3 Oregon State. The have an impressive win over Ohio State but other than that they have simply managed to run up the score a few times against teams they are expected to beat.
Which brings us to that impressive win over Ohio State...
6-1 with their best performance a 3 point win over Wisconsin. Since a 3 point win over Fresno State Wisconsin has won 3 straight to bring them to 3-3. Ohio State is over rated.
Ohio State should either earn their rank or get knocked down to reality in the next couple of weeks. USC has no real tests left. If they drop another game I think the love affair will be over.
They still have to play MSU on the road before that.
get recognition out of beating the hell out of teams a local high school can beat ? Do you mean like Arkansas( SEC) 52-10 or Rice 52-10 a team that hung with Vanderbilt (SEC)or Colorado. Show me that high school team. Respect the teams like OK State & Texas Tech- heck we play those teams every year we respect them alot.- your post doesnt make any sense.
Colt McCoy is a horrible QB ? Do What? You seen any games? I guess not
The B-12 south division has 4 teams in the top ten nationally, will any excape unbeaten:? That remains to be seen, its early in the season.
I would love to see a Alabama vs Texas game,maybe that can happen
I would prefer to see Alabama #1 myself- who knows right now PSU ?? OK St??
Whatever you just got to prepare every week and do your best against your opponent all that other crap rankings etc etc will take care of itself
Hookem-Horns
1 Tx
2 Penn St
3 OK St
4 AL
5 FL
6 OK
7 BYU
8 USC
9 UT
10 Boisie St
Call me nuts, if you will; you won't be the 1st or the last.
Ours is not the only conference playing football, just like the SEC isn't comprised of just Alabama, Tennessee, LSU and Florida. But if you listened to the media, you'd think so. A tradition of winning doesn't hurt Alabama, just like it doesn't hurt Texas, SoCal, and OU. I don't know what your gripe is about since Alabama is ranked #2 - Give it time, if you think Texas is underserving, then the'll eventually lose over the course of the next three games.
#2 NO MORE!
Alabama is the only strong team left...
LSU needs to focus on shoring up the defense and rededicating themselves as a team to the running game next Saturday at South Carolina.
We need to go back to basics this week, stop reading press-clippings, and focus on the task at hand...
i agree about the running game I would like to see charles get the ball more on O
i really think that les will have them QUIET and ready to play against SC.......
I think the ranking can play to our advantage in two weekss...it has been a while since wqe have been an underdog at home, much less out of the top ten. All of that said, i dont thinkthey need to over look the Gamecocks either
You don't remember the days of a 5-6 Auburn team coming in and throwing for 246 on us, do you?
Our secondary in 2001-a year in which we won a conference championship and a BCS Bowl-was part of the worst defense in LSU History...
That's right, statistically speaking, the 2000 & 2001 season were the two worst defenses in modern LSU Football history...
This defense is far better than they are so far...
How old are you, JB?
Friend...I have seen some SH!TTY defenses in Tiger Stadium in the past decade...The last two years of the DiNardon't Era were especially reprehensible...
Welcome back Dude, been holding down the fort for weeks against half a dozen or so Sooners.
Did yall get the Arkansas & Colorado games up there, I realize now that alot of games like UTEP & Rice were regional broadcast, living down here the only game not televised was the FAU game, we attended that one
Hookem-Horns
First, we gave up 51 points...
Second, we gave 50 up in 3 overtimes...and we gave up 14 points in the 1st two with a touchdown apiece, and then we gave up 8 points in the final OT stanza...
Same thing in Lexington, as well...
But, like I said...Our focus needs to be on South Carolina...Nothing but Columbia...
Where is the TE we have come to know? Keep talking trash bro' because the Tigers proved last year that anything can happen. I like your back to the basics theory too.
GO DAWGS!
I think LSU got exposed and were rated too highly based on their accomplishments last season. The haven't had a quality win all season, as Auburn was clearly over rated as well. I think Auburn MUST win in Morgantown in two weeks to really be taken seriously again this season.
The Coastal Division of the ACC seems like a three team race among VT, UNC, and GT. I'm excited to see how that turns out. Wake Forest looks good in the Atlantic, but FSU has a chance if they can get a couple breaks.
I'm interested to see how MSU fares hosting Ohio State this coming weekend. My Bears beat them in Berkeley, but many teams are gelling in a way much different than in the beginning of the season. A win over Ohio State will legitimize them as true contenders for the Big Ten.
I think my Golden Bears haven't really earned their ranking yet, as that loss at Maryland is pretty inexcusable. Since the Pac 10 looks weak due to so many injuries, Cal has to beat USC to truly be considered a top tier team. I do think that Cal is better than Pitt though, especially when Jahvid Best is in the game.
Just some thoughts...
then about a 60% chance we'll beat florida in atlanta.
then about a 65% chance we'll beat Texas in miami.
that means there's a 13.4687124% chance Nick Saban will be holding the BCS crystal football come January without a loss.
In order for Tex to advance, they would have to win 7 more
5 against ranked teams- odds are heavily stacked against them
right now looks like, the next 3 could go either way, so what are the odds?
Missu & OK State at home TTech & KU on the road BU could be a spoiler- never know
Texas A&M in state rival- always give 100% then a 12 champ game if they make it that far against Missu or KU again!!
Thanks Tomcat
i do, however, like statistics. but im not a stats major either.
but, im gonna take a break from my math homework to give you your chances.
i have come up with this:
43.943328% chance that Texas will win out
then a 65% chance Texas will win the rematch with Missouri
then a 35% chance Texas will beat Alabama in Miami
means there is a 9.99710712% chance Mack Brown will be holding the BCS crystal without a loss.
I recommend seeking help IMMEDIATELY before it is too late...
Using your numbers though...
Alabama winning out: 34.5%
Texas winning out: 43.9%
Alabama beats texas: 0.65%
Implies
Chance Alabama Meets Texas in Miami: 15.1% (.345*.439*100%)
Chance Alabama beats Texas in Miami: 9.8% (.345*.439*.65*100%)
Chance Texas beats Alabama in Miami: 5.3% (.345*.439*.35*100%)
I think your chances for Texas are a little high. I get 24.8% before the Big 12 championship and 14.9% after. With a loss by Penn State and USC, Texas and/or Alabama could drop a close one and still meet, increasing the odds above.
For the record: This is probability and combinatorics, strongly in the realm of math. Statistics is much more dry, more like accounting with an error estimate. Give me a standard deviation for your probability estimates and I will agree this is statistics.
i just used the basic principle that winning one coin toss = 50%
winning two coin tosses = 25%
but i learned that in Algebra III/Stats
haha and don't critique me on my predictions. you predicted auburn had the best chance of going undefeated in the SEC.
and im not gonna seek help until i know what that stuff in the parentheses means.
Alabama's stock has likewise gone up significantly.
And I never think any team in the SEC has a better than 7.5% chance to go undefeated any given year. Maybe USC can get up to 20%, but even that favors a loss or two along the way.
there is a 2.178% chance the cocks will win out.
okay. back to math............
BOOMER!
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
You don't say?
caught your attention huh?
Couldn't miss it. I thought that maybe you had a thought - and suddenly realized that you didn't. Is that even possible? What's your take on the Mississippi game? It's about time for Bama to rest on their laurel's - don't you think? Don't answer the latter part. With all these top teams goin' to sleep - maybe Bama could slip up also?
Oh, and BTW, how's your girlfriend's Daddy's portfolio been doing? You know that your future depends on it, right? You don't think that "the Old Man" might be having reservations about investing in another "bad investment", do you? Well, fortunately, the stocks have rebounded today. That might delay "the decision" for awhile......
2. Polls are a total joke no matter which one you look at.
3. ESPN and other entities decide who is number 1 in the nation by telling the general audiences. (see #4)
4. The general audience is ignorant. They only say what they hear, not what they know.
5. The SEC will once again show why its teams are the most talented and best coached in the nation come Championship time.
6. The SEC will never get respect from ESPN or the polls until National Championship time.
7. Go DAWGS!!!!!
119 Div-1A college football programs thats 107 teams that do not belong to the SEC
#6 on the contrary SEC gets alot of acolades from the press and Media
BTW the polls had UGa as #1 at one time if I recall correctly
#4 the general audience is ignorant- are you part of the general audience ?
#2 at this point in the season, polls dont mean much, give it a few weeks and it will look alot different, hate to say it but in the B-12 and SEC teams are going to whup each other and those boys from the PAC-10 and B-10/11 are smiling and licking their chops watching the B-12 whup each other,as the best teams in the country face the toughest competition and a similar situation exist in the SEC
Adios Tomcat
Texas wins out..
Oklahoma wins out...
Alabama loses one..
Penn State loses one..
Would this be a BCS nightmare ?????
No disrespect to your team on this. But, I think I know where your going. This is the BCS nightmare: that Oklahoma wins out! Seriously, Texas would have to lose twice before Oklahoma gets into the Big 12 Championship game. Therefore, Oklahoma could win out, not even play in the Big 12 Championship, and get invited to play for the National Championship. This is a very real possibility - as Oklahoma did not drop very far in the polls. I, personally don't have much to bitch about, as the PAC doesn't play a Conference Championship. But, I know that many others will definately question that. Furthermore, Oklahoma could even end up ranked # 1, and not play in the Big 12 Championship. This is gonna cause a major problem. Therefore, for the sake of the BCS system, you'd better hope that the Sooners lose at least one more. LOL!
If Florida and USC lose one also, A RRR rematch would be guaranteed.
The most likely BCS scenario (Penn State vs Alabama) has about a 7% chance of happening, by my reckoning. It is WAY to early to say what will happen, but never too early to dream about what MAY happen!
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No offense TG, my dyslexic brother.
BTW, did you hear about the suicidal dyslexic? He threw himself behind the bus!
DYSLEXICS OF THE WORLD...UNTIE !
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It was a bad joke. Never happen again, I promise.
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One thing I found interseting about the UT vs OU game- thats probably the first game all season that the first string for both teams played four quarters, because both teams have whuped their opponents
Good luck con los fighting Manginos
It wasn't a reference to this week's game--OU had a respectable showing, this week. It was a reference to past flops. I'd direct you to my reply to OU Ron, but I'm not sure where it is--I think it went down to the bottom (can't make it stick where it belongs).
b/t/w: Gators ain't "plum giddy" over win v. LSU. We're duly satisfied, but we know there's a lot of FB ahead of us, and for all the talk of Texas' guantlet,UF's schedule ain't exactly a walk in the park: v. UGA, Kentucky, South Carolina, Vandy, and FSU. Granted, UGA isn't looking as tough as before the season, but Kentucky, Vandy, USC and FSU are ALL tough games. We ain't takin' anything for granted.
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These leagues B-12 and SEC are loaded with really good teams and your right that there is alot of CFB to be played.
Who woulda ever thought a two loss team would play in the MNC game?
Half way through the season is way too early to start talking Nat champ senerios bout whos in out whatever, have to take care of each opponent and I hope the UT boys can focus and not get too cocky/overconfident, because every team labeled #1 goes down week after week.
Too bad that Texas Tech vs Oklahoma State is not early in the season like last year- 07 OK St over TTech TTech over OU OU over OK St
sound familiar-kinda like yalls league
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Touchy subject, huh? LOL!
"...your point would be better taken if Florida and OU would have played each other in the last several years..."
OU didn't need to get pasted by UF to become established as a choker. OU's flops against LSU, USC (blow out), Boise State and WVU measure up nicely against tOSU's back to back NC face plants--no need to dabble in hypotheticals to establish a hypothetical.
"...I'll just shit can your point just like i do with the rest of your smart ass remarks..."
In case you haven't figured it out, this is a blog. It's all one big shit can, so I'm sure my posts will be in fine company--along with yours.
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Again--the comment was in reference to the BOWLS--not the Texas game--because this thread is about the BCS--not the AP rankings; in fact, YOUR POST, to which I replied--was about OU finishing in the NC.
As for comments re. the Ol Miss game--I'd happily welcome them, but I'm pretty sure that the reason no OSU or OU fan has made any comments, is because they knew they'd be eating them.
Frankly I don't know or care what you do with my comments, but judging from how worked up you're getting over them, I ain't buying the "shit can" bit. You obviously take this stuff WAY TOO SERIOUSLY--so I'll just keep pok'n, then sit back and read your angry posts about how little you care about mine--LMAO!!!
BOOMER dude!
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Touchy subject, huh?
OU's flops v. LSU, USC (blow out), Boise State and WVU measure up nicely against tOSU's back to back NC face plants--no need to deal in hypotheticals (UF pasting OU) to establish one.
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right now looks like PSU & Bama have the best chance to make it
Why in the world isnt OK state higher? they show no weakness-undefeated
BTW BU whuped IA st big time they could be a spoiler in a few games for B-12 opponents
McCoy is only completing 79.2 % of his passes- think Miller DE dropped is one and only pass for his career
Texas D gave up 35 points to OU, but only 48 rushing yards
OK state picked off Daniel 3 times last week, winning the TO battle & the game
Here again Texas needs to win the TO battle
Kindle #2 has new position not LB anymore DPR desginated pass rusher
Daneil will have to fire fast because they are going put heat on him-
Kicking game edge- Texas 7 outa 7 field goals 100%
Home Feild 93,000 plus, they wont be able to hear anything-edge Texas
here again looks tough- the Horns will have to win the takeaways and limit mistakes penalties, turnovers, blown coverages to get the W
Hookem-Horns
BTW Pinkle is 0-3 vs Brown
All that aside, I understand your frustration, but Georgia is just going to have to wait it out and hope everyone forgets witnessing the proverbial murdering of its NC hopes on national television.
Here's how: UGA was emasculated by Alabama--on national television, when it was supposed to show its stuff. Florida lost an off the radar, intra-conference squeaker fluke--then turned around and emasculated the reigning national champs.
You see? It's a simple matter of who still has their nut sacks intact, and who has anything left in 'em. In other words...
....the 'dawgs dun bin fixed.
That's how.
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I'm always amazed at how easily, the proverbial "off the radar, intra-conference squeaker fluke", goes over in the SEC. Somehow, it just seems okay when it happens in the SEC. Not that I disagree with anything you've said - cause we all know that "Mississippi plays in the SEC". Therefore they are definately one of the Top Ten teams in the country.
Tex> Ark>Aub>Miss St> Vanderbilt> Ole Miss>Fla > LSU
"LSU, good defense or bad defense, does not deserve to be anywhere near the National Championship game after being annhilated, emasculated, embarrased by Florida last weekened... you guys need to keep Jean-Francois' mouth shut, sew it up or something, because he became a national punchline.... now, I am a Texas fan, and at this point, they deserve #1, but at least I am realistic, because I don't think they will survive the gauntlet of Mizzou, OK State, Texas Tech, Baylor(hopefully somewhat of a break), and Kansas, and if you SEC fans think that you have the best conference in football, by all means, go ahead, but be careful about what you say, because look at the Big 12- 4 teams in the top ten, 6 teams in the top 25, and it's not because these teams lost to unranked teams or got emasculated, annhillated, whatever.... OU lost to TX in probably the most exciting game in that rivalry, OK State was able to show up on defense to take a 5 point, exciting win over Mizzou..... so learn the facts and maybe, just maybe once, watch what you say because you may be eating those words at some point"
now, I am a Texas fan, and at this point, they deserve #1, but at least I am realistic, because I don't think they will survive the gauntlet of Mizzou, OK State, Texas Tech, Baylor(hopefully somewhat of a break), and Kansas, and if you SEC fans think that you have the best conference in football, by all means, go ahead, but be careful about what you say, because look at the Big 12- 4 teams in the top ten, 6 teams in the top 25, and it's not because these teams lost to unranked teams or got emasculated, annhillated, whatever....
Whew! That took forever to retype that...
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Really...
I was just about to maybe agree with "Big Nikki" - but you've clearly changed my mind. As many of you can see, our friend the Observer, has clearly indicated who might be "the most ignorant fan". Unmask that masked man!
By this construct bignick is more than qualified to determine how ignorant SEC fans are, as your evidence clearly points out.
I hear that everything in Texas is BIG - except for your Johnson and your brain. Is any of that true? Tell us all about it? You drive a Big Ol' Truck, stand about 5'1 and weigh in at about 125 soak and wet? Still live with momma?
Thanx for not. But, I needed a good laugh and was hopin' that he would "expose himself". Sadly, he didn't bite...
Glad that you slipped that one in. What we need is more "original thinkers" like yourself. Great post!
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What? I'm dead serious. We just don't get enough of that out here. LMAO! This stuff is just comical. I am warming up to the idea that we probably are overrated though, I mean, everybody says so.
I can clearly see how the team with the best overall record over the last 6 1/2 season, with the best record against all OOC opposition, and having beat all those teams by the largest scoring margin - is clearly overrated. Add in that they have won the most BCS Bowl games (by the largest margins of victory), and beaten the most Top 25 teams over that time span, and it becomes crystal clear. It's practically a slam dunk. Heck, they only have one "Crystal Ball". That's proof enough! I'm sold.
Washington next year then West Virginia following that.
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You think they'll still have White and Devine then???
Well, if you just want to "go on vacation", those are some pretty good spots. The fishing is pretty good up there on the Columbia River. The scenery is beautiful also. But, if you were lookin' for a football game, I doubt if your gonna find one in the state of Washington. I'm kinda with WEA on the West Virginia thing also. Pat White is gonna be gone for sure. LSU will pound that team back into the stoneage. So, I hope that there is something else better to do in West Virginia. I hear that those "hillbilly women" are alot of fun, but while watching a Marshall game, I couldn't help but notice how dayum ugly they all really were. Obviously, you boyz are gonna have to be real careful, not to make their fathers and brothers too upset while your all up there. Watch out for birdshot...
And I honestly didn't give any thought to White or Devine being there, though I should've. That definitely changes the landscape of things, unless they have someone waiting in the wings who can step up. The same scenario bit us on the azz a few years back with Arizona St. As far as Washington, I know, I know...they're not exactly mowing down the competition. Looks like Ty is probably gonna be looking for new gig soon so they'll be rebuilding (or maybe building, period). If Kiffin lands that job...and I don't know why he'd want to...he'll get 'em turned around, but not in one year. I heard his name mentioned with Washington and 'Cuse so who knows where he's going. Personally, I'd love to see him at Clemson just so I could watch them play. I get a few of their games a year and I always enjoy watching the maturation of a program under a new coach.
Concerning vacation spots and West Virginia, nah..don't see that happening but I get the jist of where you were heading with that. For some odd reason, the dueling banjo song comes to mind everytime I hear the word Virginia. However, I do visit Myrtle Beach once a year to play in a golf tournament. It's always a blast. The golf is top notch and we party hard at a few places in the pm. Shucker's and Marty's immediately come to mind.
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I get the "country roads" theme from John Denver pop into my melon. I try and stay away from the dueling banjos thing, as everytime that melody blasts thru my brain, somebody close by ends up "squeelin' like a pig". LOL! I'm trying to rehabilitate.
Oh, I remember that LSU did travel to Arizona State. There is simply more money to be had in the South. That's about it. I don't consider that LSU is one of them teams that tries to duck competition. There is a fine line now with that BCS system. You have to schedule just enough OOC strength - in order to pull it off at the end. LSU has taken on Virginia Tech last year, Fresno State and some others. They have tried to keep that upwards.
Kiffen could end up at Washington. Wouldn't be a bad gig for him. He might even come in 2nd. So, it wouldn't really surprise me if he pulls the trigger on that one. Yep, it'll take awhile though. But, they do have some pretty good players up there. The state of Washington does produce some really good 5-star players. Just not enough of them. If he could keep them all in state, while grabbing up some of the table scraps in Los Angeles, he could rebuild that program. I know that he'd be better off at Clemson - but I think that he'll probably land in Washington for awhile.
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