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Fanblogs.com: A look at the Big XII resumes

  • grover · 1 year ago
    Style points will matter next week. Texas beat Oklahoma State by only 4 points at home. If (big if) Oklahoma can put a smashing on Oklahoma State on the road and Texas wins unimpressively against A&M do you flip then?

    A couple other things to throw out there. What if the BCS is tied for #2 between OU and TX next week? It has happened before (I think mid-season poll some years back). In that case the Big 12 site says "the represenattive will be chosen by draw". That would be fun!

    How about Texas getting a slight nod over OU next week, but then playing very average / losing to Missouri in the championship game. Do you put OU as #2 in the polls, or do you allow Penn State to jump OU for the final BCS poll?

    Chaos is good. I like our new President-Elect, but I hope he is never able to introduce an 8 team playoff into college football. This way is much more fun!
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    did you forget texas beat missou by more than 20 with second string playing most of the second half, and didnt they beat ou by 10? style points are easy to get when you leave your starters in the whole game but mac brown knows that texas needs to develop their younger guys to stay competitve with ou, which has a gret program every year. i wouldnt worry about them playing average, after all they win their bowl games and national title games. werent they underdogs in 05
  • NMLSooner · 1 year ago
    Style points UT scored 21 points in the 4th quarter last night. OU at A&M? OU fourth quarter points: 0. points in 1-3 quarters: 66. You guys keep leaving Tech out of this thing. Who wins the Big XII south if OU loses to OSU? That's right TT! Not UT! Why? because you lost to them! You can't use head to head in a three way tie!
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    if you would have read my other posts you might have seen where i stand as far as TT goes..it's unfortunate that they lost so many spots in the rankings after the loss at norman. last week i said bob stoops was smart for scoring a lot because it looks as if it will help OU. i was just simply refering to the argument between OU and UT. everyone knows that if OU loses this whole argument is out the window......don't see it happening, but you never know..by the rankings right, that is truthfullyTT's only shot, respectfully.
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    I agree Kevin, I said as much yesterday in another post to Bevo Boy, Texas beat OU head to head, so they should stay in front.......that's what my head tells me, but my heart says something else....I'll be happy with whatever, I think.....
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    very respectful and true ron this is great for the conference theyre all very good
  • BigWarEagle · 1 year ago
    How can anyone say Oklahoma deserves it more than Texas when Texas beat them head to head on a neutral field? Isn't that why we play the games, to settle it on the field?
  • Jason · 1 year ago
    By that logic, Texas Tech deserves it more than Texas.
  • BigWarEagle · 1 year ago
    That' would be correct if Tech was still part of the national discussion. They lost later and by a huge margin and have now dropped in line behind the other one loss teams. The only argument now is Oklahoma or Texas.
  • NMLSooner · 1 year ago
    That's why we count the score from the TT game too. We are going to count ALL of the scores between the three that are TIED for first.
  • Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago
    For whatever reason, the voters are putting Texas behind OU this week. The ballots should be out shortly, but it's just not right. Now Texas is going to have to hang 70 on poor A&M.
  • BigWarEagle · 1 year ago
    yeah, but that's won't be as impressive as hanging 65 on the number 2 team in the country.
    These voters never look at the entire season but who appears to be the hottest team at the moment.
  • Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago
    I suppose it's relative if you don't believe TT was the #2 in the country.
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    I did believe they were #2, until they had 9 TD hung on them. I thought this game was going to be close. You said it would be over by the 3rd quarter. YOU WERE WRONG!! It was over by halftime... :-)

    I guess that's why I'm in 25th place in the pick 'em...
  • Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago
    What I meant by that was... with the exception of the Texas upset at the last second... Texas Tech really doesn't have a quality win. Texas Tech beat DI-AA Eastern Washington (home), Nevada (road), SMU (road), and DI-AA Massachusetts (home). They certainly don't have anything so substantial that they would be #2. They simply matriculated their way up the rankings as other teams took losses.
  • LacerateKane · 1 year ago
    Why do the "quality" wins against KU & OSU (both blowouts) not come into discussion? True UT beat Mizzu but slipped by OSU@home. Aren't the wins counted as the teams are ranked when played not in hindsight ("I knew they weren't that good" excuse)? A la Tenn, UGA, LSU, Clemson, etc. I'm sure EVERYONE had Cinn winning the BigE, right? Or OSU the P10? Thought so.
  • SanAntonioRaider · 1 year ago
    Wow, now I'm reminded why I don't come to this site anymore. You've been a Tech hater for a long time. Take your goggles off bud, beating 3 ranked opponents in consecutive weeks is a pretty tough thing to do. Name another school besides UT this year that can make that claim. There's not one to my knowledge.
  • Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago
    I didn't even bother to watch; I knew OU would win, but not the way that they did. Instead I spent my time playing Gears of War 2 (complete waste of time, BTW, I think I actually would have preferred to watch the game).

    And, of course, I agree that Texas should be number two, just like they are right now. I don't think OU should pass Texas unless Texas barely pulls off a win against A&M, and even then, OU would have to blow out Ok. St. Texas won it on the field, who're these pollsters to take that away from them? (And yes, I would say the same if the teams were switched, although I wouldn't be happy about it.)
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    Where you been all season long, BB?

    Wreck your parents car again?
  • Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago
    No, just been really busy with school. I have AP chem starting at 630 in the morning, at least two hours worth of homework a night, and with the exception of November, essays due twice a week for AP english that I have to spend at least two hours on if I want a C. In November we could write a novel for extra credit. If we write 50,000 words, we get all of 11 extra credit points, so I pretty much gave up on that after 500 words.
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    Good for you! Arrange those priorities, but don't forget to smell the manure, as Tomcat would say...

    OR the roses...

    50,000 words for a novel, huh? Let's see. I have over 1200 posts on here, 40 words per post EASILY, so...

    Just in time for Christmas:

    WEA--The Early Years

    Forward by Kevin Donahue
  • Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago
    Maybe I need to explain the criteria for this novel a little more thoroughly: 50,000 words (175 pages) written from 12:01 November 1 to 12:00 November 30 and it has to be fiction. I have an idea to try to get one extra credit point for creativity, but I don't think it will work.
  • Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago
    That doesn't sound worth it at all to me. I wouldn't do it if I were you. Colleges aren't going to care if you got a B instead of an A in that class anyway. It's all about the exam as far as whether or not you get credit.

    I'm going to pass on a bit of advice to you. Take it or leave it. I had to write a lot of very long papers in college, as my 2nd major was History. If the assignment specifies the length in number of pages but not in number of words, use the font "book antiqua". I've never had a teacher have a problem with it. It looks good, it's easy to read, and it gets you more pages with fewer words. Good luck, man.
  • Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago
    Yeah I chose not to do that novel. Instead, I'm going to try turning 5 pictures and saying, "a picture's worth 1000 words." Not much work, possibly one extra credit point.

    And thanks for the font. I'll have to remember that.
  • Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago
    No problem man. Good luck in school. I hope that font helps you as much as it did me.
  • Sker · 1 year ago
    Perhaps you should also pay more attention in math class.
    Damn.. kids these days.
  • Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago
    Ok, maybe I left this part out, but you get 1 point for every 5000 words, so my math is just fine.
  • LonghornfaninSECcountry · 1 year ago
    Morning all! What an UGLY whoopin the Sooners put on the unstoppable Red Raiders. That being said, if Texas beats A&M (which they should ) they should be on top of the Sooners. The Longhorns beat them at a venue that was not home to either team, and Texas lost by inches to Tech. This was a fantastic game for the Sooners, but one game does not a season make. If it ends up a 2 way tie there is a draw? Are you kidding me?? Where is Obama when we need him? ha ha!
  • TrueBornSooner · 1 year ago
    You can't say Texas deserves it more than OU, either. With a 3-way round-robin, none of them "deserve it" over the others based on the losses. Who has the largest combined margin of victory on the three games? Tech is -38, Texas is +4, OU is +34. At this point, style points matter as much as record. Why is Florida voted ahead of Texas in some polls? Style points.

    Also, when the loss occurs has historically mattered. OU lost early and rebuilt a defense when they lost the star linebacker playing Texas (remember, OU was leading that game until that injury).

    I won't be upset if Texas goes ahead of us, but I don't think it's clear cut that they HAVE to go ahead of us.
  • Mr2Bits · 1 year ago
    If you have to ask why Florida is ahead of Texas then you havn't watched CF this year. Florida (outside of my biased opinion) is the best team in the country right now. OU nor anyone in the big 12 would want a piece of Florida right now.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    yea thats what everyone says every year especially with usc in 05...who won that game by the way.........and the citadel, give me a seatbelt florida lost to an unranked team
  • Bama_Babe · 1 year ago
    For the sake of Florida, that unranked team they lost to continues to surprise people every week. They just blew out LSU. Sorry, but credit has to be given to Ole Miss. They're a good football team.

    Now, The Citadel......Florida is on their own for that one..
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    you mean 3 loss lsu, theyre just like usc lately.....popular...by the way, i hope alabama spanks florida
  • Mr2Bits · 1 year ago
    You’re knocking Florida’s schedule of Citadel when you play similar teams like Texas-El Paso Miners. Don't try and poke holes in their schedule as you know every team has fillers. Ole Miss is all of one fumble and a last second field goal from having the same W's as the Horns.

    I'd hope you are gunning for a Florida loss or else you'll be watching OU and UF in Miami. Outside of that, you need to become a cowboy fan and worry about winning your own conference.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    first of all dont call me names or insult me if you want to discuss the bcs.... secondly, i was knocking ou with my comments and have no doubt that florida is the best team in the country right now but seriously big 12 is far better then sec this year and at least im honest and can say that sec is dominant in almost every year and im not remembering texas playing anyone during regular season to pad style points because they lost to unranked teams....i would love to see texas uf in the big game so that they could be really underdogged like when they shocked the nation in 06 for that title...ole miss..a win is a win and a loss is a loss and that all that matters at the end of the season
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    GO HORNS:
    I am pretty sure some longhorn faithfull are about to be all over you like flies on waste. I believe you won the National Title in 05 not 06! Were you talking about Florida?
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    the game was played in 2006, smart guy wow..........
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    WOW yourself......You are officially recognized as the 05 National champions just so ya know.

    I know the game was played after the new year, here ya go "SMART GUY".You are the 05 national champions "SMART GUY".
    http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/nationalcham...
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    i dont need your link to know that...you're the smartass that sent the rude emails, hell we both live in texas, and we both like tech, so what are you so mad about? i would expect that kind of e-mail from a rival state or something...it will be allright dude
    mabee ok state will win and tech will get to play in the big twelve title game, texas will just have to settle for the bcs title game
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    What rude emails?I have not emailed you besides Disqus sending you an automatic email. I do not even have your email address I was only reading your post and was confused whether you meant texas or florida would be an underdog if they meet in the title game, and did not know which one you were talking about because your said 06 title game. Trust me man I am not a rude guy, and if I came across a little hasty I apologize. You snapped at me a little, so I snapped back. No hard feelings or nothing, I would love to have both of us playing in BCS games as well.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    sorry for the misunderstanding, i get a lot of rude ones and maybe took your comments wrong
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    Ole Miss is now ranked here and there.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    I agree and like Ole Miss they played-yall a game too
    Now Citadel needs to play SFA, SHSU,TSU etc etc and these teams dont really help anybodies SOS argument. Citadel played Texas A&M couple of years ago, well I really respect them and admire them, they should play smaller schools and really have no business against Div-1A teams from tough conferences.
    Sicem-Bears beat the H outa TTech
    Go Cowboys- Did I say that?
    Hookem-Horns
  • Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago
    If you take into account when they played, you should also take into account the teams that they played leading up to that game. When Texas played Tech, they had just played teams ranked 1, 11, and 6 leading up to it, where OU had a bye week before Texas. Do you think that your team will be better rested and better prepared after playing three top-11 teams in a row, or having the previous week off? Texas also played the top-two teams from the Big XII North, and OU didn't. Shouldn't other games matter, too? If you can literally spend all of your time preparing for two opponents, don't you think you'll do better than someone who plays a much tougher schedule than you? Texas took the best punch everyone in the Big XII had, and only came up with one loss (assuming nothing catastrophic happens against aTm). Oklahoma didn't even play the same Tech team that Texas did.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    wow style points over the citadel impressive...45 35 ..i think ou is great but do they have a second string and running up scores on crappy programs should very unstylish
  • Mr2Bits · 1 year ago
    You are a retarded fool. Unlike the Big12, other conferences pull their first string when winning by 28+. When was the last time you've seen Harrell or Colt come out before the last 10 minutes of the 4th? NEVER! I got the pleasure of watching Harrell tossing all but the last drive against OKST to pad his Heisman stats. Bradford played all the way up until 10 minutes left in the 4th despite winning 58-14 over Tech, once again Heisman stats. Colt McCoy did the same thing against Florida Atlantic (not coming out until the last drive in the 4th) and he even played the whole entire against UTEP despite being up by 35….stats. Maybe UF should take note and just play our starters the entire game rather than pulling them half way through the second quarter.

    What do you expect for UF's 2nd and 3rd string to take knees the rest of the game? It's college football brother, not intramurals. Change your tampon as you're starting to sound like a Big 10 fan.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    f o 2bits i never said anything about how bad they beat citadel and everyone knows tebow didn't play much at all and at the first of the season most qbs play most of the game as they are rusty from off season,,by the way colt only played about 2 and a half quatars against mizzou, baylor
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    Check back in after turkey day, after Mack put's it on poor ATM to the tune of 50 or more, then talk about running up the score on crappy programs, will Texas be UNSTYLISH ???
  • Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago
    I don't think they'll have a choice, Ron. I think they'll have to go full throttle all game long just to turn some heads.
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    Ditto for Oklahoma vs Oklahoam State

    *See Oklahoma vs Texas Tech

    **At least Oklahoma State and Texas Tech are ranked and should be able to do better than that. I think Texas loses ground if the game is within 50.
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    I understand that Kev, and don't have a problem with it, they're fighting for their spot in the BCS, the problem I have is with a Texas fan knocking Stoops when Mack does the same damn thing....
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    I agree with both of yall, BU held back and played the 2nd string and coulda scored again easily and didn't.I saw the BU Bears game in Waco and it was 41 to 7 at the end of the 3rd quarter. The A&M Aggies blocked a punt and had a little going at the end and the final was 41-21.
    Mack Daddy has to do more than get the win and I'm afraid this one has the potential to get ugly. I felt kinda sorry for A&M at the Baylor game.
    Hookem-Horns
    Sicem-Bears beat Tech----stranger things have happened
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    TC, sent you a pic, 156 field dressed, Tall 22" spread...
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Cool Ron- I'll check it later
    Been seeing alot of deer on a daily basis
    Might get one this evening- was watching-8 different ones last night
    Only one really good one-little too late in the evening and was moving
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    im not knocking stoops, hes probably the smartest coach in the ncaa, and dont want to argue with you because youre honest and your comments sound fair and make a lot of sense ....just chatting and having an opinion...like i said yesterday im happy for the big12
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    if you want to talk style points and running scores then consider that when ut-ou played the sooners were rated #1 and got there by style points.  however, thay got beat when they were playing their best football.  or were they? ou also got a bye in the middle of the beef of their schedule , last week, but did dismantle tech.  once again i dont want to knock the sooners because they have more talent than texas, but texas played better in the big game..  bottom line is that those two teams should be able to play again, but we dont get that luxury
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    You're the one who brought up style points, not me........I have already said that I don't think OU should be in front of texas because of the loss to the horns....if you don't think Mack runs up the score on his opponents, then you better wake up from that dream........in the post above to mr2Bits you say you were knocking OU, and now you're saying you don't want to knock OU, which is it.....
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    k i just meant the part of scoring a lot..which like i just said...stoops is smart and ou is very good....
  • Zac · 1 year ago
    TrueBornSooner, there's a lot riding on this. That is to say, if OK blows out OK St in Stillwater, everything else is arguably moot. If OK wins, but it's within say 4 points, then, in my opinion, it becomes arguable as to whether or not they should meet MO in the Big 12 Championship.

    Basis: TX did beat a higher ranked OK on neutral ground, and, though they lost to a highly, albeit lesser ranked TX Tech, it was at TX Tech. OK's epic win against Tech was in Norman. Consider also, that while it is likely OK would have breezed through TX's early schedule, said schedule didn't include a single 1-AA team.

    Finally, there's that arguably all-important overall strength of schedule. Currently, the teams OK has played have a combined w/l record of 66-58; likely there will be 4 wins & 4 losses added to each column, or no net change. TX's schedule has a combined record of 75-46. Although their aggregate may change by as many as +2 in the loss column, that's still a combined record of 79-53.

    So, in conclusion, I think it can be said, and reasonably so, even if OK wins in Stillwater, TX should go to the Big 12 Championship to meet MO. JMHO.
  • BigWarEagle · 1 year ago
    If Florida beats Bama, Florida will go to the NC even though they both have one loss and it will be because Florida beat them head to head. The Oklahoma/Texas game should be viewed the same way - as an elimination game. Everyone is always saying that it should be settled on the field and not by computers and voters. Well, this game has been played and the winner should move on.
  • TrueBornSooner · 1 year ago
    Then why isn't Texas eliminated by virtue of their loss to Texas Tech? We have a 3-way tie, not a 2-way. Everyone wants to now dismiss Tech as a flash in the pan, conveniently forgetting that they beat Texas. If it were a two-way tie, I'd have no problem with the argument, but that's not what's happened.
  • BigWarEagle · 1 year ago
    Because natiionally no one is arguing if Texas Tech belongs in the championship game anymore. The argument has become who should go between Texas and Oklahoma. If you isolate the argument just between those two teams, it stands to reason that the winner of the Texas/Oklahoma game should be the one to go.

    I am not cheering for one team over the other, it just seems logical to me that this is why we play the games....to decide who is the winner.
  • TrueBornSooner · 1 year ago
    And that's the flaw in the argument. Again, it's a 3-way tie, not a 2-way. Oklahoma is the only remaining team with a challenging game at OSU. No one expects Texas to lose to A&M, or Tech to Baylor. If OU loses there, (and I think that's possible, but not likely), then Tech WILL go to the Big XII championship game, because the HTH will go to them. So, you can't dismiss them yet.

    Side note, I hope you guys manage a huge upset next week. I really want Bama to fall on their backside. Not because I want BCS chaos - though that's a nice side effect - but because I have loathed Bama for many, many years. War Eagle!
  • BigWarEagle · 1 year ago
    I would love to be the reason that Bama is knocked out of the NC picture.

    And I would actually rather see a Oklahoma/Florida title match because I think it would be the most entertaining game.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    ou is hell against the run and tebow aint bradford, ou or texas would smash florida go florida state
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    because they cant win on the road...........and their most impressive win was at home in the last 9 seconds.......all of the others were gimmes especially nonconference.........just like tech knocked ou out of the tile game last year at home, same players.lubbock is a tough place to play........isint the cotten bowl actually 7 miles closer to norman than austin be humbled texas got it done
  • Jason · 1 year ago
    Texas couldn't win on the road either. Texas Tech actually owned Texas in the first half of the game. Its amazing how people forget how the game actually went down. Texas did come back to take the lead in the 4th quarter, but too bad so sad they couldn't hang on.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    yea too bad tech lost so late so i guess it really dosent matter, no one in the country had the body of work they did and you have to consider that...by the way im from west texas, 120 miles from tech and i respect them
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    i have a solution.. lets think about who beat the highest ranked teams at the time of the games..... ut beat #1ou #11 mizzou and #6 o k state......tech beat #1 texas and ou beat #23tcu and cinncinatti, and #2 ttu.......not enough? what team lost their 1 game by the lowest points........texas again, oh and they beat a ranked kansas team also.....ou fans would be singing the same song no matter who won the red river rivalry, which in my opinion is the biggest game in college this season and was handled by the horns by 10 points, its texas' turn and thats justice, ou had a chance to beat texas on a nuetral site, just like every year but im sure popularity and running up scores will unfortunately count. ou will probably get to the title game and they will probably win, but their in the back of everyones mind will be the loss to horns and how they wished they could gone undefeated like texas did in 05......bottom line texas deserves it more
  • TrueBornSooner · 1 year ago
    "Deserves it more"? No. In the BCS, no one deserves it unless they go undefeated (and even that doesn't matter if you aren't in a power conference). OU may go, or Texas may go. They may both still lay an egg. Whoever doesn't go happens to be the last one standing in a game of musical chairs. It's takes skill to get you into the top 5, and luck to get you into the top 2.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    thats true and im just glad the big 12 is thriving... i never doubt the sooners and dont mean to diss themat all.  both teams will make BCS appearences and possibly end up 1 and 2 after its all over
  • mark · 1 year ago
    If i here the word NUETRAL site again i'll puke!!! It's a JOKE. I'll quote the great Barry Switzer who said,(the last time i checked DALLAS was in TEXAS.)Even worse it's on the schedule for OU as a HOME game.How bout we play the game in STILLWATER every year.It's a NUETRAL site,and you won't here this absurd arguement from texas fans ever again!!
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Mark-What planet are you from?
    The stadium is split 50/50
    annual game every October-heard arguments both sides, to move it to a later time/date- doesn't matter fair for both programs
    Norman is actually closer to Dallas than Austin
    Sorry Mark- its doesn't get any better than this- Biggest rivalry in the whole friggin universe
    Maybe the MNC game was already been played?
    Neutral Site- Yes
    Why would UT vs OU be played in Stillwater?-doesnt make any sense man- reread your post
    Hookem-Horns
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    hey mark the cotton bowl is 7 miles closer to norman then austin and ou travels well..have you missed the games their its half crimson half orange so it is nuetral and would be the same in stillwater...after all ou usually wins their more than texas {cotton bowl} so your statement really has no case...bottom line texas won this year, oh and ou was ranked #1 at the time, so you cant say they were plaing poorly
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    i would like to add that texas had no running game all year and every team knew that. they also had two freshman in the secondary, which everyone knew as well. they still won the hardest shcedule between the three so completing roughly 80 percent with defenses anticipating the pass is getting it done...ou has twice the talent ut has but just didnt have the poise to win
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    Lets look at top 25 teams beat:

    Oklahoma: Texas Tech, TCU and Cincinnati
    Texas: Oklahoma, Missouri, Oklahoma State
    Texas Tech: Texas, Oklahoma State

    Right not I would personally give Texas a slight lead over Oklahoma. If Oklahoma wins next week over Oklahoma State my vote goes to Oklahoma.

    This all supposes they don't end up playing each other...
  • LacerateKane · 1 year ago
    Don't forget TTU beat #16 KU (at the time). If OU beats OSU, my vote is OU - they are playing better than UT (the situation is the same as when OU owned UT during RR Shootout; UT lost then would roll thru their remaining schedule). If 'Pokes win, two way tie between UT/TTU. Head to head TTU wins. Doesn't matter who is ranked higher. TTU wins B12 South.

    Big 12 Tie breaker rules: (in order)

    The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
    The records of the three teams will be compared within their division
    The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of fi nish (4, 5 and 6)
    The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents;
    The highest ranked team in the fi rst Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative
    The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative
    The representative will be chosen by draw.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    its easy to play better than a team with a bye didnt ut beat ku 35-7, texas beat ou heads up
  • Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago
    I would LOVE a rematch of Missouri-Ole Miss in the Cotton Bowl...
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
    I stand before you a humbled man. I do not know what it was, but I know for dang sure the best team won Saturday night. It was a great atmosphere and we fell flat on our face. It was the worst performance I have seen out of this group in a long time. With that being said, even if we would have played perfect, we still would have lost. So you will not see any excuses coming out of my corner. We have proven that we cannot handle great teams on the road. I still am a firm believer that we are truly a top 10 team and did simply did not rise to the challenge. OU did. We were outplayed, and outcoached in every part of the game. Especially up front on both sides of the ball. Good game OU. You have my vote to go to the NCG if you win out.
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    Oklahoma, Texas, and Florida are on a level no one can compete with when they are on.

    Alabama, USC, Penn State, Utah, Texas Tech, TCU, Georgia and Boise State can take advantage of missed opportunities if one of those teams is not ready to play, but not if they are on.

    Sorry for the loss, good luck to whichever bowl Texas Tech goes to. Oklahoma still needs to play a tough Oklahoma State team. Texas Tech will not fall out of the top 10.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Ben until they lose to the Baylor Bears
    Sicem-Bears beat the H-outa TTech
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    If any of the three lose it is most likely going to be Oklahoma. This would send Tech to the Big 12 Championship but Texas to the National Championship.
  • joe_the_quarterback · 1 year ago
    Teams don't decide their schedule. So putting timing on wins in order to justify your position for a team to go ahead of another is logically flawed. For me a decision between OU and Texas is simple, it has already been settled on neutral ground.

    Also on one loss teams: Florida lost to a team with a Texas reject quarterback and will probably beat Alabama. To me the best 1 lost teams are OU-Texas. They should be 1 and 2. They should play for the national championship. And of course in a flawed rankings system that never seems to satisfy fans such an event will never happen. What makes me angry is that there has to be so much uncertainty to who deserves the rankings. College football fans deserve something better than this disgrace of a ranking system.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    best blog i read tonight
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    Rather than re-invent the wheel, I figured I'd just cut and Past one of my prior posts on this theme:
    __________________________________________________________

    "...incest, incest is the best...put your sister to the test..."

    That how y'all do it out West?

    I don't give a damn how y'all figure out who the B-XII rep will be....just don't pretend your getting laid, when you're banging your sister.

    You get ONE team in the BCS-NCG. Only one. We--or some other deserving conference--will provide the other.

    Beat them, and we'll give you props for getting laid.

    Make it with your own....and you can expect the rest of us to turn away in disgust.


    GO GATORS!!
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    this is texas not arkansas{sec} and texas has beaten a better team for a bcs title on their home turf just 3 years ago so dont think the gators got it wrapped up and your ignorant comments show your states iq and make this disscussion childish, how old are you like 17? surely you can come up with facts instead of insults
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    Wrap your IQ around this, genius:

    Since the SEC won the last two NC's--rather decisively, I might add--it's obvious that the best football in the nation is being played in the SEC....

    ....therefore, regardless who wins the SEC championship in Atlanta, the NC should quite naturally be, a rematch between Florida and Alabama.

    How do you like me now, cowboy?


    GO GATORS!!
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    once again your true age shows, why even chat with people, unless you like being a smartass like most interenet tough guys.. and everyone knows that the big 12 is better this year, you're just in denial.  at least i can be honest and agree with you about the last two years, two years where a two loss team made it to the national chapionship....that spells great competitin...lets see florida go undefeated.  but hey, i'm an adult and can admit florida is a very good team and deserves the big game if they beat bama....everyone slips up.. but dont start sending people in texas messages about inscest and because the truth is hard for you to swallow.. thats childish and if its your iq, i forgive you , if your retatrded its not your fualt dude,check your family tree, and see if your just trashing other people because your sick of inscest and thats how you got that powerful iq
    i wont trash your state or your team just because of one ignorant person
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    You keep talking about intelligence, and betraying your own lack thereof.

    It's called an analogy. Perhaps metaphore would be more accurate; either way, no one's actually accusing anyone of having actual relations with their rely's...

    Now, as for last 2 years vs. this year--again, the shallowness of your anaylsis betrays your own limited intelligence. I brought up the preceding 2 years--in response to your ridiculous reference to '05. You, 2 posts up: "...texas has beaten a better team for a bcs title on their home turf just 3 years ago..." See how stupid that is?

    Ditto the suggestion from Joe the QB, which you echoed: "...To me the best 1 lost teams are OU-Texas. They should be 1 and 2. They should play for the national championship...."

    The point: my suggestion that UF and UA play a rematch of teh SEC CG is no less absurd than this ridiculous notion....can't you see the inherent absurdity of 2 teams from the same conference playing for the NATIONAL championship?

    Let's try the analogy thing, one more time: Boston Red Sox v. NYY for World Series....how about Dallas Cowboys v. NY Giants for Superbowl... Is the picture starting to come into focus for you?

    The bottom line: the point in proferring my SEC suggestion is simply to illustrate the patent absurdity of the suggestion that any 2 teams from virtually any conference should be permitted to play for a national championship.

    I assure you, I am far from alone, when i tell you i would not watch such a farce. It would be a complete waste of time.

    Final point: Am I 17? Fortunately for you, I am much older than that...cause wouldn't it be embarrassing, having to have things spelled out for you, by a 17 year old?


    GO GATORS!!
  • Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago
    Nice post. And I agree, two teams from the same conference should not play for the national championship, especially when they played earlier in the season. There can be exceptions to this, but as a general rule, I think it works.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    i never said that texas and ou should play for the bcs title. what i meant was it wold be cool to see them play again for the sake of the big twelve. yes it would not be right for the two to play for the bcs title just because ou fans aren't satisfied with the results from the conference game a few months ago. i'm not impressed by your stupid expressions or rude comments, which you started by the way, because thats all iv'e seen from you , insults and cheap shots at people who are'nt gators fans. everyone knows that people do that because they have a chip on their shoulder....whats eating you man? i have to admit i am a little jealous when the sec is the big disscussion for a season, but i dont forward insults by way of internet blog at them, i just be a man and accept it..what a waste of space you are
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    "...because thats all iv'e seen from you , insults and cheap shots at people who are'nt gators fans..."

    Yeah, that's all I do. You're just flat out funny, little boy.


    GO GATORS!!
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    you're funny to .   start crap and hide behiind your computer and trust me i'm far from little but here you go if youwant to see for yourself
    1st Lt. paul ryan taylor-- fort hood army base, killeen texas  attn.-mps office,   but hurry i will be going back to afgan soon  "  the dirty third  "
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    If you were looking to instill fear, you missed the mark...but you have earned my respect. I salute you, and thank you for your service, Lt.

    As for my pereference for anonymity on this site--it's kind of involved...part business decision (clients of different loyalties...), part a matter of keeping the posts isolated from the perspective--so that they stand or fall on their merits alone (IMO, once you start interjecting personal information, all of your posts are affected--for better or for worse, enhanced or compromised...by the perspective you disclose. The only "perspective" I care to disclose, is that of my orange and blue tint (...though I have let on before that I am a God fearing family man....not much more...).

    I assure you however, fear doesn't come into play...


    GO GATORS!!
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    no threat intended
  • Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago
    Watch yourself dude, I'm 17, and I'm pretty sure I'm better at making friends on here better than you, at least so far. You like the right team, though...
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    yes sir, of course,  iv'e only lashed out at someone that made a comment about texans and inscest. i don't remember talking to that guy or even caring about what he said until then.  i did , however take a comment wrong form a tech fan,and have straightend that one out. most of my comments to others have been respectful. thanks for worrying about me though. i probably wouldn't sleep well if i thought some smartass from florida didn't like me responding to his childlike cutdowns..i will sleep better knowing that you have friends and are good at making them over a screen-----------------after all i was 17, 17 years ago and thought i knew everything too---------------------------myofb---hook-em
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    Gohorns:

    "...i don't remember talking to that guy or even caring about what he said until then...."

    My incest ANALOGY was directed at JOE THE QB, dipshit--not you; YOU chimed in, because you haven't the intelligene to decifer ANALOGY from REALITY.

    Bevo Boy is 17 y/o, and he posts--and GETS IT--like an adult....you on the other hand, are a sniveling little baby who needs coddling, elementary concepts spelled out for you, and YOU lash out at others, then accuse others of lashing out....YOU insult people's intelligence, than cry uncle when your own is called out...you're defensive...hell, I could go on...I'll just leave it at that.


    GO GATORS!!
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    man you haven't the slightest clue who i am and havent tried to have a decent conversation with me and bevo boy is 17 and i have nothing against him or even you, be careful..and i havent lashed out at anyone that didn't lash out at me
  • Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago
    When did I say I know everything? If I knew everything, then I would have at least 100 percent in every class and would know the perfect solution to solve this problem here in the Big XII. I don't think I have either.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    lol. i never said you did dude.....no offense intended---hook=em
  • PFCP · 1 year ago
    UT should have lost the 05 game his knee was down.

    And since UF's loss they haven't given up more than 21 in a game and outscored their oppents 369-82

    Mind you that's while playing LSU, Georgia, South Carolina, Vandy, UK. The only "no body" UF played at all is Citadel and they still have FSU and Bama to play

    TT should have never been in discussion for the NC game,winning over KS is hardly a quality win.

    I'll give you the win over OSU as a quality win though.

    regardless the fluke that was TT is over finally.

    UT should go over OU simply because OU lost to UT they both don't deserve a NC shot though same thing as the old Mich OSU rematch people wanted.

    If UF wins out they get a NC shot almost garunteed if they do and they should be pitted against either UT or OU
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    how many contraversial calls were in that game? thats like saying the refs cheated, or that reggie bush outplayed vince young in that game...no excuses...
  • OU_Fan · 1 year ago
    Here's something to think about: If OU beats Oklahoma State in Stillwater, OU will have the only quality road win among the three-way tied schools. That has to count for something. And as much as Texas
    fans keep arguing that they beat OU on a neutral field, I haven't heard much about the fact that they lost
    to Texas Tech. Its like it never existed. There is no way to justify this argument but I can simplify it: If OU
    beats O-State, OU would have beaten 5 top 25 teams compared to UT's 4. And if OU beats State by more
    than 4 points which is something UT couldn't do in Austin, then what? BOOMER!
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    I agree. Obviously i am rooting for A&M and the cowboys, so we can get in the BCS. But OU should go to the big 12 champ game and will, if they beat OSU. The margin is so small between OU and texas that a quality road win would seal the deal. I also agree the loss to us seems to have dissapeared, but with the point differential OU has been putting up. It is hard to deny them a shot if they beat OSU. Like it has been stated before, it is better to end up losing early then late. Look and see what is going to happen. OU lost first, then Texas, then Tech. They will probably finish OU,Texas, then Tech in the BCS standings.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    yea except three of those ou wins were out of top ten, and im pretty sure kansas was ranked when ut beat them, mizzou-6 ou-1 okstate-11 idont give a damn how bad ou beats ok state they have lost two games now ---texas45 ou35 boomer that
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    Kansas was not ranked.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Now for all you fans that don't believe in home field advantage
    Check this out
    Oklahoma since 2000 has only two loses at home-fact
    Texas Tech vs OU last four years home team wins-sorry guys, but Home feild makes alot of difference
    I saw a rattled UT team that was dropping passes, missing blocks, missing tackles and dropping INT's at Lubbock, saw the same kind of thing out TTech Sat night at Norman.
    OU is definitely hot and firing on all cylinders, TTech beat OSU in Lubbock, UT beat OSU in Austin- Sooners travel to Stillwater- Sooners should be heavily favored, The Cowboys have a good team and have had a great season and their only two loses were on the road against top ten teams. It aint over till its over.
    Go Cowboys
    Hookem-Horns
    BTW the A&M game is in Austin
  • raider_nation96 · 1 year ago
    Does not help Texas's cause if Texas Tech wins and gets the Big 12 Champ game and wins it. I cannot believe that a 12-1 Big 12 Conference Champion Texas Tech with a win over the 11-1 Texas Longhorns, (#2 in this weeks BCS rankings) does not get the nod for BCS Title Game. Not the voters, computers, nor anyone with a damn objective brain in their head is leaving Texas Tech out of the NC game in favor of Texas in that scenario.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    I understand your pain man, but you kind of have to take an objective approach. We would have an argument if say we did not get beat by 44 last week. NC contenders do not play like that. I know we played are worst game in a long time and most likley expected to just walk in there and take a win.(That is what it looked like when I was in the stands) I think OU would be a better rep than Texas but if we end up winning the big 12 Texas will get the nod. The system is really flawed and needs a playoff. Always good to have a fellow raider on board. Welcome.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    tech just lost late and had an off week. all us from texas, utfans or not, is not leaving tech out or doubting their talent, they're very good. its the system that sucks..why not uxclude the north, since they have more than one loss, and have another round robin........that wont happen but it would be a hell of a party
  • BigWarEagle · 1 year ago
    Screw the OK/TX discussion. Just throw Utah or Boise State in the NC game and be done with it.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    yea thatd be better than au this year
  • raider_nation96 · 1 year ago
    Amen! Texas Tech walked into a hornets nest last weekend! We were flat on defense and just plain swarmed on offense. That makes for a 44-point loss. No excuses, and no complaints on where we are in BCS crap.

    I personally do not see a scenario where Texas gets to BCS title game unless both Texas Tech and OU lose this weekend. Or if OU or Texas Tech loses in Big 12 Championship Game. Because if OU wins at OSU, they are going to jump Texas in BCS standing and go to Big 12 champ. game. All that said, I cannot believe that a 12-1 Big 12 Conference Champion wouldn't win out over the 11-1 Texas Longhorns, (#2 in this weeks BCS rankings). Not the voters, computers, nor anyone with a damn objective brain in their head leaving is OU/Texas Tech out of the NC game in favor of Texas.

    Now what if everyone stumbles?!
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    dude taxas had a bye, should that really be held against them?
  • raider_nation96 · 1 year ago
    Not saying it should be held against them at all, just stating that I dont think Texas will keep that #2 spot unless OSU wins this weekend. But if that happens, then Texas Tech will have heads up win and advance to Big 12 championship game. Then if they win that, there will be a strange instance where a conference champion with 1-loss and a heads up win against another 1-loss non conference champion ranked ahead of them for that week. Then voters have to think pretty damn hard about that. Best scenario for Texas fans is 1-point win for the Sooners I would think, since there cant be ties.
  • FanoftheGame · 1 year ago
    I could care less about who the better team was a month ago. The idea with the rankings should be to determine who the better team is right now. I whole heartedly agree that when Texas met Oklahoma in Dallas, that UT was the better team....then. As the season progresses, some teams get worse and some teams get better and some teams get a lot better. I agree that TT shouldn't be considered by virtue of them losing big to OU. On the same note though UT last to TT, how is irrellevant since UT did not take care of business against the Red Raiders like the Sooners did. But UT did beat OU...earlier in the season. Which brings us back to the present. Right now I can't see how any unbiased person could think that UT is better than OU, right now. It's a two-way street and OU has benefitted from the hype, much in the same way that UT is benefitting from the "we beat OU" hype that seems to be their best argument for being ranked higher in the polls. What is really going to matter when all is said and done is that the higher ranked team OU or UT will ultimately get beat down by a better Florida team. The lower ranked team, OU or UT will get a bcs bowl game that they will probably win. As a result, whoever the BCS puts in the title game will end up ranked lower than the Big 12 team that got left out and this entire debate between OU/UT will mean nothing.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    thats funny, when you say 2008 bcs champions i would think it would represent the 2008 season.. iv'e never seen a bcs "best at the time " championship game. last season ou got beat out of national championship contention at the end of the year by texas tech, but still got the championship game, with two losses, one by unranked colorado. this disscussion has been settled on the field, just like every other year.
  • FanoftheGame · 1 year ago
    I don't think anyone has seen a "best at the time" championship game. Meaning, since the start of the BCS it has yet to be proven that the bcs system actually puts the 2 best teams in the championship game. They might put #1 against #2 in the title game but that is based on their ranking system and not necessarily the 2 best teams in the country. It's great for making money and selling tickets so why change it. Until there is a true playoff in college football then the NC will always be "mythical". I realize you must be a die-hard Texas fan and that explains your bias, but I'm not knocking the Horns. They have a great team. A team that I definately think is one of the best in the country, but in my opinion, and it is ony an opinion, Oklahoma is a better team. Maybe not a month ago, but right now they are. If OU beats Oklahoma State in Stillwater by 10+ points then the pollsters will probably agree with me and move OU ahead of Texas. If UT beats A&M by
    less than 30 points at home, then it might hurt the Horns chances in the polls as well. Personally, I think it would be great if Florida lost to Fla. State and then beat Alabama in the SEC title game. Then the BCS would have to figure out how to address the the obvious, which is a UT vs OU Natioanl Title Game. The Red River Shootout Pt.2. Now that would be good football.
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    FTG, good thought, but I wouldn't mention that too often, just the thought of it puts some people in a frenzy.....
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    "...the BCS would have to figure out how to address the the obvious, which is a UT vs OU Natioanl Title Game. The Red River Shootout Pt.2...."

    Would you please play that one out---so what happens if OU wins the BXII, and Texas beats them AGAIN? Second best team in a conference is "national champ"--seriously, who's buying that garbage?

    How about Texas wins conference, but loses to OU for NC. They're conference champs, they split 1-1 with OU on the year, but some how OU is NC. ...and again, second best team in a conference is called "national champ." Right.

    Meanwhile, UF/AU winner, Penn State, and USC--all could very likely take down the B-XII champ.

    They call SEC Fan arrogant, yet we're the only fan base that would never even think of pretending to have 2 of our teams play for the NC. That is the empitome of arrogance--to suggest that the 2nd best team in your conference deserves to be called NC.


    GO GATORS!!
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    TG,FOG and OU Ron this is all pretty funny and I beleive I mentioned this several weeks ago
    OU vs UT has already been played so has UT vs Missu
    Saw a interveiw with Don BeBe the XII commisioner the other day
    He is totally opposed to any playoff format and said that he is a bowl advocate
    He said he is also opposed to any restructure of the divisions his arguement that the North division had two big bowl wins last season KU and Missu
    Seems as though a 8 team playoff could be instituted with the existing bowls already in place and that right now, this season, there are more than two deserving teams.
    With the parity that currently exist and the level of competition, that the regular season games would still be important and those who are in power dont want to break the paradigm that currently exist in determining the MNC of CFB.
    Okay Regan -chime in now- been there done that
    Our new president-elect has some ideas and said he will throw his weight around.
    We will see how things play out and some deserving teams will be left out.
    Hookem-Horns
  • FanoftheGame · 1 year ago
    Easy TampaGator. Don't get so offended at the thought of your gators losing. First of all, last time I checked the Big 12 was not "my conference". Just based on which teams I like vetter than others, I can honestly say I would be pulling for the gators against either UT or OU. But that's just my preference and it doesn't take anything away from UT or OU's argument that they may be better teams. As I have stated in my other posts, I think the Gators would win either of those matchups. But another OU vs UT matchup in any bowl game would be a treat for any fan. Also, I believe OU played in and got spanked in a Bowl game for the NC in the same season that they lost the Big12 title to K-State. Had OU pulled off the win in the NC game, then we would in fact have a National Champion that didn't win their conference. It didn't happen, but the BCS did allow for the possibility for it to happen. As well, if Alabam and Florida lose again before the bowl games,
    where would they be ranked? I Alabama, Texas, Florida and Oklahoma are atop the BCS, then a Bama loss and a Florida loss would almost certainly move Texas and OU up in the polls to #1 and #2. I never said it was the right thing, but again....the BCS allows for this to happen. Will it? I doubt it, but it could. And that's all I was pointing out. I'm not a backer of the BCS system and this is just another reason why.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    FOG funny that you bring this up-KSU over OU- that same year Texas beat KSU I was there-That season Texas had one loss- right OU
  • TampaGator · 1 year ago
    "...Don't get so offended at the thought of your gators losing..."

    I assure you, that's not my motivation. If Bama loses to AU and UF, and UF loses to FSU, we both have 2 losses. If we're both locked out, so be it. But the other team should be a conference champion, unless there are simply no other champs with 1 loss. Penn State or USC (if they win PAC 10); perhaps even an undefeated non-auto-bid BCS team....

    ...ANYTHING better than an intra-conference rematch. I wouldn't watch it...and I'm sure I'd be far from alone in not bothering to tune in on a Monday night, to see a game we already saw, and which would resolve nothing.

    Re. the OU game--exactly...wouldn't that have been a disgrace? In fact, I believe they revamped the system as a result....

    Final point: discount it as you will, but there is a STRONG undercurrent against an intra-conference rematch game. If the midwestern-bent media's darling, the Big 10, couldn't pull it off 2 years ago, amidst a shameless media love fest with UM-OSU rematch (due to same undercurrent)--I doubt any other conference could pull it off against a stronger undercurrent.


    GO GATORS!!
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    I told you people got in a frenzy, the point is, it could happen, as you said the BCS allows for this to happen.....
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    i agree mostly, except that  the bcs champion should be the whole season champion, not the best now...ut was off this wekk so you cant really compare them to ou right now, they had just beaten kansas{7 and 3 not bad} and ou few games before were against off the radar nebraska and k state{4 and something}  not to hard to beat them convincingly
  • Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago
    Does it seem to anyone else that this discussion turned into "Let's see how we can misconstrue the facts to make it seem like Texas is not worthy of the NCG"? I said this before but I think I need to say it again:

    If you take into account when they played, you should also take into account the teams that they played leading up to that game. When Texas played Tech, they had just played teams ranked 1, 11, and 6 leading up to it, where OU had a bye week before Texas. Do you think that your team will be better rested and better prepared after playing three top-11 teams in a row, or having the previous week off? Texas also played the top-two teams from the Big XII North, and OU didn't. Shouldn't other games matter, too? If you can literally spend all of your time preparing for two opponents, don't you think you'll do better than someone who plays a much tougher schedule than you? Texas took the best punch everyone in the Big XII had, and only came up with one loss (assuming nothing catastrophic happens against aTm). Oklahoma didn't even play the same Tech team that Texas did.
  • gohorns1012 · 1 year ago
    ou had a bye before tech as well, but its alomost impossible to concieve that any team, even florida, could go in to norman and beet the 50 somthing and 2 at home sooners,and tech had the same bye week. as a texas fan but also a big12 fan, its great for the conference, and we can all be proud of our favorite teams this year/ figures that all 3 teams are possibly "best in the nation" and the deciding factor will ultimately be decided by the same device we use to plead our cases-------a computer, we love to argue, but we unfortuanately have no vote---------
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    BB, did tech leave the team texas played at home and brought a complete new team to Norman,,,,,,,you sound like a pretty nice young man, but that statement didn't make any sense....
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    I think the best way to settle this 3 way tie is if OU beats OSU on the road. When OU,Tech,Texas, and OSU have played each other the home team has won every time. If OU wins against OSU on the road that is good enough for me to send them to the big XII championship game.
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    TT, there's no doubt that I want OU to beat OSU on Saturday, but not so they can jump ahead of Texas, there is no doubt that I hate Texas, but they beat us head up and as I said before, they should should stay at least one ahead of us.............. NOW, thats my opinion only !!
  • Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago
    I meant they played like two completely different teams. Against Texas, they played with a passion to get to every ball and dominate Texas while they were still rattled by the crowd. Against Oklahoma, they expected to show up and have the game handed to them. Does this sound like the same team to you?
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    LOL
  • FanoftheGame · 1 year ago
    Here's the scenario......

    Alabama loses to Auburn and falls out of the top 5

    Florida later loses to Alabama in the SEC title game and in turn they fall out of the top 3 spots

    Oklahoma beats OSU by 17 in Stillwater, they leapfrog Texas and slide into the #1 spot vacated by Alabama

    Texas beats A&M, moves to #2 in the BCS, but loses the chance to lay in the Big 12 Title Game by virtue of OU being ranked higher in the BCS.

    Alabama beats Florida and wins the SEC, but only moves up to #4

    Florida falls out of the top 5.

    OU wins the Big 12 Title game adn stays at #1

    Texas is idle, but doesn't slip in the polls due to Bama and Florida being too far back in the points

    USC ends up #3 almost by virtue of default, but do not win the Pac-10


    In this scenario, the only logical way to keep OU from playing UT in the NC game is for the BCS to allow USC to leapfrog into the #2 spot. If that happened then you would have a team that didn't win their respective conference playing in the National Championship Game.

    Now this is all fairly unlikely, but it is possible in the BCS format...................and I don't like it.


    We need a playoff system!
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    FanOftheGame:

    Sorta like many other teams that played in the Championship game that did not win their conference. Like Florida in 06' and Oklahoma in 03' and on and on. BTW, you are wrong in the fact that USC didn't win the conference. With an 8-1 record they will have won the conference and won a split share of the title. It's just that Oregon State at 8-1 also, will go to the Rose Bowl, based on the head-to-head win. BTW, that will be seven conference championships in a row. Either change your handle - or learn something about the game.
  • blackdawg · 1 year ago
    Florida did win the conference in 06. They beat Arkansas in the Championship game, 38 to 28.