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So, does this "special admission" thing constitute a lowering of standards in all cases, or is there more to it?
I'm not sure those folks are telling the truth...
I would think he would have to be a special admit due to learning disabilities, but I believe for this report he doesn't count since he wasn't specially admitted the same year he became football eligible. In other words, he might not count as a special admission for football purposes, only academic ones.
About that whole "SEC lowering its admission standards" bit...
I suggest you guys take a look at Mike Slive's comments at SEC Media Daysbefore the beginning of the season that clears up the misconception of that (of which I also admittedly misunderstood)...
On another subject, there has been confusion about a recent amendment that the conference made to its bylaws with respect to student athlete eligibility, with some reports indicating the conference has relaxed its academic standards. In fact, the opposite is true. I want to take this opportunity to clear up that confusion.
As you may know, and some of this is more than a lot of you want to know, the NCAA revised its bylaws several years ago to eliminate the status known as partial qualifier, leaving only two classes of student athletes: qualifier and non qualifier, which are determined based on a student athlete's high school academic credentials.
This spring, the conference revised its bylaws effective August the 1st of this year to maintain standards more stringent than the NCAA standards governing the enrollment of non qualifiers. In addition to modifying the labels describing a student athlete's initial eligibility status, the NCAA's initial eligibility index was extended to include the full range of possible standardized test scores. A 2.0 high school GPA was established as the minimum for a student athlete to be a qualifier, and the number of required high school core courses was increased, first from 13 to 14, and now to the new requirement of 16.
It is inappropriate to associate this legislative change with any individual student athlete or prospective student athlete. Rather the revision is based on the need to update SEC rules to properly reflect new NCAA standards and to ensure accommodation of individuals challenged by learning disabilities.
These revised bylaws, known to most of us as Proposal 1, make it clear that only a limited number of recruited student athletes who are non qualifiers at the time of enrollment at an SEC institution may become eligible to compete in the SEC and that each of those limited number of student athletes may become eligible only if he or she presents an average high school GPA of at least 2.0 as certified by the NCAA and at least 12 core courses. The institution submits a special report to the conference known as Proposal 9A, and a prospective student athlete who was a non qualifier and who does not meet these standards can enroll as a first year student in the SEC at an institution in our league, but cannot later become eligible for SEC competition.
Another path to eligibility is available for such a student athlete, however. He or she can enroll in junior college and become eligible as a transfer student. For those interested in more, we have prepared a document comparing the old and new provision of SEC Bylaw 14.3, and that's available to you outside on the table after we finish.
I'm just pointing out it ain't so...
It's all there in black and white...
And some gray, too...
That is really shocking considering the overall academic integrity of the school...
However, impugning the academic integrity of the University? I feel sorry for Auburn that they could have such an ignorant fan.
To set the record straight, Georgia happens to be ranked 58th, and in Tier 1, in the US NEWS rankings. http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/c...
Not exactly where you would expect to find a school with an overwhelming lack of academic integrity". Despite my temptations, and in a show of class unknown to you but familiar to plenty of other normal and respectable Auburn fans and alum, I won't go so far as to point out where the school you support wound up. That simply isn't necessary as the point is, Georgia is Tier one and highly ranked according to legitimate sources. That War_Eagle_Atlanta, in all his ignorrant bliss does not consider UGA a respectable institution is nothing but a complement.
Still, in a display of the level of class you so proudly exude, I will ask you: how is that shinny 1993 National Champioship trophy? Does it bask in the glow of the ones from 1957 and 2004? Alll three are years Auburn went undefeated, and all years it spent on probation and, well you know the rest...
http://stanford.scout.com/2/267697.html
Stephen Davis never wanted to go to Georgia. He sat out one year to qualify to go to Auburn...
Auburn graduates almost more than twice the football players than Athens does.
It occurs to me that the Jan Kemp scandal is pretty unique in the history of scandals for one odd reason. How many times has a scandal been "named" for the whistleblower? Scandals are often named after the central figure (e.g. the Profumo Scandal) or after the place where the scandal started (e.g. Watergate), but rarely after the person who raised the red flag. Think about it, would you ever call the "Lewinsky Scandal" the "Linda Tripp Scandal"? Thanks to Watergate, most scandals are appended the -gate suffix. Did anyone ever call it Kemp-gate?
Yea, yea, Good point. Blame the victim...
An interesting observation. I guess the one who people dislike the most gets the honor of having the scandal name after them. Kemp has had a tough life since, won a big law suit, but a lot of personal battles, some related, some appear not to be. The -Gate suffix never was attached to Kemp that I no of. I wonder if "Deep Throat" had been Identified back then if the "Watergate" scandal would have had a different name.
http://stanford.scout.com/2/520523.html
FOOTBALL
Biggest Difference in Grad Rates Between Football Players and All Students: Division I-A (Difference of 20% or more)
Football Players All Students Difference
Cal 41% 84% -43%
Texas 31% 72% -41%
BYU 18% 55% -37%
Florida 42% 76% -34%
Pitt 31% 64% -33%
Michigan St. 39% 70% -31%
Georgia 43% 71% -28%
USC 50% 78% -28%
UCLA 57% 85% -28%
Miami (Ohio) 53% 80% -27%
Michigan 59% 85% -26%
North Carolina St. 39% 64% -25%
North Carolina 57% 81% -24%
Tennessee 36% 59% -23%
Missouri 43% 66% -23%
Clemson 49% 71% -22%
Georgia Tech 47% 69% -22%
Illinois 58% 80% -22%
Alabama 39% 61% -22%
Auburn 46% 67% -21%
Rutgers 51% 72% -21%
Virginia 71% 92% -21%
These graduation rate gaps reflect the difference between a school's overall student body and its football players. You could think of this gap as one indication of the extent to which a school has compromised its normal academic standards for the sake of football. Heading up the list this year, once again, are Cal and Texas. The two teams that played in the national championship game this past season, Texas
By The Bootleg Staff
Posted Apr 14, 2006
Auburn will get its just rewards
Click here for more on this story
Posted: Thursday November 23, 2000 12:49 AM
By Chris Low, Special to CNNSI.com
Making the grade
The SEC has taken its share of abuse over the years for not graduating enough football players.
But the latest NCAA graduation rates offered an interesting revelation.
Of the teams who finished in the final Associated Press Top 25 last season, SEC teams accounted for five of the seven highest graduation rates.
Mississippi was first (79%), Georgia third (75%), Mississippi State fourth (71%), Tennessee fifth (65%) and Alabama tied for seventh (56%).
The graduation rates released earlier this week by the NCAA were based on the 1993 recruiting classes.
All but four of the SEC schools were at least 50% or higher. The national average for Division I football programs was 48%.
The ones finishing below the national average were Auburn (47%), Kentucky (37%), LSU (36%) and Arkansas (5%).
Typical Ole Miss fan that woudn't look into the same fine print I failed to look into....Kevin points out himself that the term "special admission" could mean any number of things...
It's a brush the size of Texas that its painting with...
But, what is not up for debate is how unbelievably egregious this Jerrel Powe situation is for you guys...
I'm glad you're PROUD to have him as a "student athlete"...
In all honesty, I hope the best for the young man, because its obviously athletics that have taken his academic career as far as it has...I sincerely hope he doesn't blow out a knee or suffer a career ending injury, because something tells me Jerrell has precious few options left to fall back on if football is no longer one of said options...
UGA is on the list and so what!
There has to be standards and they exist, so if people don't like the standards change them. We've had plenty to graduate, plenty of academic all americans, plenty to go to the NFL, plenty to flunk out. We all recruit the same guys, etc...
This is the same thing I said to UofSC1978 just below. I just want to get an opinion from each side.
Unless you choose to keep your head in the sand, Ostrich...
I'll be in front of the stadium across the street from Bojangles' wearing Tennessee apparel from head to toe, so you can find me. Just kidding.
Actually I wear black/white when I go to USC games to remain neutral, but that is actually where I'll be, with Newcastle in hand.
Also, I'm assuming you'll be coming up I-20. Not far off of the path that you'd take, there is a "discount beverage warehouse" that has fantastic prices (better if you pay in cash). They open at 9:00 AM on Saturday and they have every kind of beer/wine/liquor you can think of. It's maybe 4 minutes out of the way for you if you go the way that I think you will. Anyway, when you're coming into town, you should stop and stock up. You can save some cash while you do it.
Green's in Piney Grove: 4012 Fernandina Road, Columbia, SC 29212 - 803-744-0570
Take I-26 West from I-20. Get off on Piney Grove. Turn right. Take almost immediate left beside Waffle House and you're in their parking lot.
There is also one downtown, but as I'm sure you know, maneuvering downtown on a gameday, especially one this big, isn't very easily done at all. So, I would strongly recommend hitting this one just outside of town. Hopefully that'll help you guys out.
And seeing what happened to Cornelius Ingram in the preseason; who can blame them...
You gotta strike while the iron is hot...
Or in C.I.'s case: In one piece...