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Unless they get to the top 8 with less than 9 wins they don't go to a BCS bowl.
I am first. Ric Flair is the Greatest.
Re. remainder of schedule: I think ND could quite possibly/easily go 9-4:
North Carolina---Loss (how is NC not ranked yet?);
Washington--slam dunk (better be);
Pitt--Loss. (Maybe USF and WVU were Thursday "Twighlight Zone" games--but both were roadies for Pitt, as is this one v. ND; and Pitt has historically given ND fits);
Boston College--Win. BC has lost a bit, ND IS much improved.
Navy--Win (return to normalcy; last year was just an aberration).
Syracuse--Slam dunk.
USC--Loss (no elaboration necessary).
I'd say 9 wins would get ND into the BCS.
Note: those aren't predictions, as much as simply acknowledging a very realistic scenario.
GO GATORS!!
I see a real possibility of losses to North Carolina, Pittsburgh and Boston College. Boston College always beats Notre Dame. Washington has too many injuries - or they might have even beaten them. If they even have two losses heading into USC - it'll be over for them. The beatdown in that game - they will not be able to recover from. They could end up at (9-3) - but a big time spanking from Southern Cal knocks them out of the box. On the other hand, if they play well, it'll probably help them somewhat. Either way, I can't see a (9-3) Notre Dame, being BCS worthy. I think that there would be several teams with two or less losses being more deserving.
To quote Clint Eastwood in Unforgiven:
"...deserves got nothin' to do with it..."
You may be right about the effects of a USC blowout of Notre Dame vis-a-vis BCS; I still think however, that 9-4 Notre Dame in a nightmare economny is either BCS bound, or next-best bowl bound. Too hard to pass up on that big, loyal and generous a following, especially when the purse strings are being tightened all around. 10-3: forget about it; they're in (btw: they play 13 games, so it's either 9-4 or 10-3).
Re. Boston Catholic: true they've racked up quite a streak against the domers; however, those games are always close. Moreover, last year--when Notre Dame sucked out-loud, with an amplifier--the game was STILL close. Now factor in for the loss of Matt Ryan, and a much improved Irish team--I think they stop the streak this year.
Pitt is more of a coin toss. Wanstache can't coach his way out of a paper bag, but then he has pulled a couple of big time roadies out of his a$$, as alluded to above. There's really no telling which Pitt team shows up, until well into the 2nd quarter. That said, I'm lean'n towards Pitt in this one, for the same reason I think UNC smokes 'em--they're both tough, physical teams, which seem to fare well v. Weis' Irsih (Pitt not quite as much as NC).
I'm gonna' pay very close attention to that UNC game. To me, this is the game that will tell us if ND is for real (i.e.--top 10 calibur), or not. I think they lose handily, but if they win, I'd have to completely re-evaluage where I think this team is.
Final point: if Notre Dame does get BCS invite with 4 loses---I think it's pretty safe to say the ND haters will come out in force--understandably.
GO GATORS!!
Well, you certainly have a point about the money and all. Clint Eastwood's line in "the Outlaw Josey Wales" applies more to Notre Dame: "Dyin' aint much of a livin', boy"! I agree then if Notre Dame has thirteen games and ends up 10-3. Does seem like we've pasted that team about six times in a row, and every time they even end up with a winning record, they're thrown to the lions in some BCS bowl game. I keep forgetting about that conspiracy. I just a soon let them keep losing forever and not have to even think about. A 3-9 season was just fine with me. Hope there are many more.
Funny, getting called out for the same thing I called someone else (TT) on!
Num-num humble pie!
So I'll agree with you and Tommie on second point; 8-4 will NOT do the trick; 9-3 on the other hand, will fall in the gray area--in other words, it will depend on how they get to 9-3, vis-a-vis the remainder of the field (e.g.--a close game with USC, coupled with 1-2 losses by most of the teams ahead of them, gets them in).
GO GATORS!!
9-10 wins puts them in one of the BCS games, what a crock, playing their shitty schedule...
They are going to lose to UNC and say good bye to any chance they had. In fact Notre Dame can't even claim they beat a good team this season...
I think it's fair to say they will easily make a bowl, but no way they are even talked about as a BCS team after the UNC game.
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I'm not a fan at all, but when they are on TV and there's no other good games on. I'll watch