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Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

bama_R_number_one — Sun, 17 May 2009 12:52:02 -0000

uh ima little late but seems like th barners are jelious of out 12 titles as normal. ROLL TIDE TOLL

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Tue, 05 May 2009 11:41:24 -0000

Don't waste time arguing about the cupcakes. Just state that Auburn played 4 teams ranked in the top 15 that season, USC-2, and OU-1. That's the SOS argument you want to make...

And our games against top 15 schools were all SEC and not lollypop conferences...

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

1Tomcat — Mon, 04 May 2009 20:01:54 -0000

Zac Texas played UTEP,Rice,Arkansas & FAU
Arkansas & FAU both had great 07 seasons and fell off in 08
OU had Div-11 Tenn Chat, Wash, Cinn & TCU
OU smashed Cinn and the Frogs had a good team- danged near beat Utah
Like Foster said earlier these games are sometimes scheduled years in advance and not only do you have to look at OOC schedules, but also have to figure in timing- The Horns whuped Missu in the first half earlier in the season- Texas sat at home and OU got to play them later in the season in the CCG game- that fatcor boosted them up, plus the margin of vicory also helped OU against similar opponents-Texas has a more favoratble schedule this year, but without the big-time opponent, the media will hurt them like- see AU 04

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

AU03 — Mon, 04 May 2009 16:10:01 -0000

"I completely agree, just don't complain about the 2004 season b/c you all played La Monroe, The Citadel & La Tech, that killed your chances..."

Auburn was supposed to play Georgia Tech in 2004, but the NCAA shortened the regular season by a week, and GT dropped Auburn.

Auburn was also supposed to play Bowling Green that same year (finished season 9-3), but they backed out of that game at the last minute to play Oklahoma.

So while Auburn ended up with a very poor non-conference schedule in 2004, the original plan was for it to be a good bit more respectable.

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

Cobia — Sat, 02 May 2009 22:12:42 -0000

Great post zac!

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

Zac — Sat, 02 May 2009 19:45:37 -0000

"Big 12 rules are...in case of a 3 way tie, the team ranked highest in the BCS will play in the CCG..."

Well, that's a lot simpler than I was expecting. (I prefer "simple", and subscribe to the "KISS" principle - *Keep it simple, stupid.*) I find it interesting that OK would be ranked higher based upon wins against Cinci & TCU (good wins, mind you), especially given OK also played WA (0-12) & UTEP (1-11). Their non-conference slate had a cumulative record of 23-28. TX's non-conference slate had a cumulative record of 27-23. So, if the logic of the non-conference slate was used to determine which team should be ranked higher, in my opinion, it was flawed logic. BUT, as I've already said, that's just me. We are where we are, and I'm OK with that.

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

OU_Ron — Sat, 02 May 2009 16:49:41 -0000

Big 12 rules are...in case of a 3 way tie, the team ranked highest in the BCS will play in the CCG game.......Oklahoma was ranked highest in the BCS because of their wins over TCU and Cinci.......If it was the other way around...that being if Texas had played TCU and Cinci and OU had played Texas OOC games...then Texas would have been ranked higher and would have played in the CCG........now that tells me OU"s OOC was stronger than Texas..

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

Zac — Sat, 02 May 2009 11:48:45 -0000

That would only be true, IF that were the criteria under which the Big 12 Champ was selected. Under Big 12 rules, the "tie-breaker" favored OK. Agree with the rules, now, or not, that's what every Big 12 team agreed to when they signed up. Besides, I don't agree with the premise that one team is not as good as another, based upon a weaker non-conference schedule. That's the luck of the draw, as all too often a team which is decent can be going through tough times by the time your team plays them. Washington is a good example.

I'm not privy to Big 12 rules; I don't know how their tie-breaker works. Something tells me it has more to do with games in common, than those which are not. A little while back, when many of us were arguing whether OK or TX should go to the NC game, I performed an analysis. Given I'm neither an OK nor TX fan, I'd like to think it was objective and unbiased. My analysis barely favored TX, and part of that was based upon what appeared to be a stronger non-conference schedule. Does that mean I'm right? No. Does it mean TX would have faired better against MO in the Big 12 Championship or against FL for the NC? No. It's just an opinion, Ron, and we all know I'm no pundit.

Bottom line: The Big 12 had an exceptional year finishing the regular season with 3 Top-10 teams on one side of the house. OK is the 2008 season Big 12 Champ. They did their level best to win against FL for the NC. Though they fell short, I think they represented the Big 12 every bit as good as either TX or TX Tech might have. Neither OK nor the Big 12 has anything of which to be ashamed. BUT, again, that's just my opinion.

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

OU_Ron — Fri, 01 May 2009 23:43:47 -0000

If it was stronger Zac, Texas would have played in the CCG...

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

Zac — Fri, 01 May 2009 19:26:34 -0000

Now, just yawl wait a minute. What's missing from this argument, hmmm? Come on now. What have I been telling uze gize from the beginning? It's all about the money! That's right. Show me the MONEY!!!

What have we got here? We've got a team with a new HC and coaching staff going into their 1st year together. In 2010 (only their 2nd year) they'll play 8 (Count Em!) EIGHT HOME GAMES. AND, none of em will be WVU…
(OK, I threw that in for comic relief.)

So, can anyone tell me what Auburn banks each home game, even when they're playing the Jill St. John School of the Blind? I'm willing to bet it's a lot more than they would have taken home from a trip to Atlanta against perennial power UCLA. AND, that doesn't include the boon to the local area (hotels, restaurants, other travel expenses, etc.).

There's something else to consider: The teams they're playing. OK, so most of these are considered canon fodder; not much honor in playing them, I suppose. Still, these teams are probably making more by playing at Auburn than at home against their conference schedule. So, there's at least some honor in giving them a boon; not to mention keeping one's word. In other words, a deal's a deal.

BUT, things like this can be worked around, right? Other teams do it all the time, right? Well, maybe, just maybe, this Jacobs guy tried and got nowhere with any of the non-conference teams from the 2010 schedule. I mean, did anyone ask him?

I'll be the 1st to admit; I prefer to see old "Div-1A" teams play old "Div-1A" teams. I absolutely hate it when BCS teams play PCS teams (Is that the right acronym?), and my alma mater does it all the time. But let's face it. If the money and the circumstances aren't right, why bother with all the inconvenience involving such a change? I mean; this is not like changing socks. Besides, all the "glory", and potential recruiting advantages, from playing and beating a mediocre PAC-10 team on neutral ground doesn't add up to one's community singing "Thanks for staying at home." Just a thought.

(Ya know whut? I get a big kick outta the fact that this isn't about the Big East…for once.)

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

Zac — Fri, 01 May 2009 18:46:29 -0000

But if you do an analysis, Ron, last season TX's non-conference schedule was arguably stronger than OK's; not by much, mind you, but still arguably stronger.

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

AUtigerman — Fri, 01 May 2009 18:28:39 -0000

Your talking about 17 and 18 year old kids. And the top recruits at those schools knew all 7 coaches were there because of them. That was the big thing.

So what i mean by it might work. It may help to generate some excitment amoung recruits in the state of Alabama. Certainly has them talking.
And to AU fans it shows that AU isnt going to sit back and let Saban just take his pick without a fight.

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

The_Observer — Fri, 01 May 2009 14:55:32 -0000

Lucky you.

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

The_Observer — Fri, 01 May 2009 14:54:59 -0000

What do you mean by work? Explain to me why driving a limo around is going to help your program.

I didn't know that Auburn had fallen so far off the map that a limo is what it takes to peak the interest of recruits.

C'mon! What is going through a recruits head..."Geez, I was thinking about going to Florida, LSU or Alabama, but now that I've see Auburn in a rented LIMO I want to play for them!"

It's gimicky, but maybe you guys are right. It has certainly garnered attention, but we will have to wait until February to find out whether or not it is positive.

My final point...

It shouldn't take a freaking limousine to get recruits to go to Auburn. You guys are better than that.

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Fri, 01 May 2009 14:31:13 -0000

Actually, I don't. I've never seen one episode...

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

AUtigerman — Fri, 01 May 2009 14:15:24 -0000

Yea but it just might work.

heres a quote

It was really exciting," the 6-foot-4, 235-pound Sanders said. "I didn't get to talk to them or anything because I was in the classroom. But we were looking out the window when their Hummer limo was coming down our street.

"It was pretty cool."

An Alabama coach also visited Ariton High School Tuesday.

"They said Coach (Kirby) Smart came by but I didn't ever see him," Sanders said.

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

The_Observer — Fri, 01 May 2009 13:20:22 -0000

Yeah it is like American Idol...it's just like the first 3 episodes (and I think you know why).

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Fri, 01 May 2009 11:56:48 -0000

Don't get me wrong. On it's face, it is real cheesy, but highly popular. Kinda like American Idol.

There are always a certain number of kids who want to flee their home state, and so they will. It's the same reason I prefer to drive foreign cars. I want to be different. But not like short-limo different...

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

Bama_Babe — Fri, 01 May 2009 11:49:29 -0000

What's even cooler/funnier is that Chizik and Co have to go out and get a limosine, decorate it, add a catchy name and parade around in it to get any attention from recruits....?? ;)

But careful there, WEA. The goal there at AU, according to Mr. Trooper Taylor, is to just simply "keep kids in-state". He says it's not an Alabama vs Auburn thing...he just doesn't want them going out of state.

As we all know, and as you stated above, Saban has the state locked down ... So as long as this "Tiger Prowl" is keeping recruits confined to the state of Alabama, I have no problem with it nor am I worried. Because if they remain in-state, we all know where they'll end up. ;)

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Fri, 01 May 2009 10:38:27 -0000

What's even cooler than that is the Sabanites are now huddled up trying to dream up an effective counter to the Auburn Limousine tour.

Saban is supposed to have the state locked down. How dare these upstarts do something so ridiculous as to assuage the dominance that is Capstone recruiting?

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

AUtigerman — Fri, 01 May 2009 09:52:11 -0000

WEA

Well seems you had Scarbinsky pegged pretty good. He actually heap some praise on AU this week i may frame it.
http://blog.al.com/kevin-sc...

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

"BC" — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:08:32 -0000

I hope not.
i LOVE Jay Jacobs.

"i asked him THREE times!....."

haha. gotta love a guy that has the guts to lie when everyone already knows the truth.

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

fosterkeats — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:14:16 -0000

woops... the USF was meant to be F$U, b/c the Bulls weren't official members of the Big East when Bama played them...

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:30:21 -0000

Don't forget Alabama-FSU 2 years ago...

Re: Auburn walks away from matchup with UCLA

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:29:24 -0000

Brooks was always drunk, and Keats, well, I don't know yet...