BYU needs to find a way to get on TV on the east coast. I'm an east coast guy and I see the MAC, CUSA teams, but I'm intrigued by them.
hokieg
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Direct TV sports pack will give you the mtn and most of BYU's remianing games. You get Utah and TCU as a plus.
Or you can go to a place like Buffalo Wild wings and watch 20 games at a time.
Zac
· 1 year ago
I'm also an east coast guy, but I disagree. BYU need only go as far as Columbia, MO. I can only imagine that game between these 2 offensive juggernauts. I'm even willing to believe MO would take the early lead, but it would be no more than a 4 pt game at the half. In the 3rd qtr, they'd fight to a stand-still, before MO's defense would tire, and the Cougars would take over. Should they wind up in a bowl game together, and believe me; it could happen: BYU 48, MO 38. Remember; you heard it here 1st.
As for BYU playing the Hokies, I can get behind that. During the regular season, BYU wins by less than 6, and doesn't score more than 34. In a bowl match-up, Beamer Ball takes over. Remember; it's the offense that get's ya there, but it's the defense that wins it.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
BYU has 2 shut outs in a row, one over a PAC 10 team. If that is not defense I don't know what is.
It is better defense than Tennessee has, a low bar I admit.
Zac
· 1 year ago
My fault their, Ben. I'm so used to looking at BYU's winning side of the score, I don't consider the rest, not that shutting out UCLA could be considered a major accomplishment, mind you, but it is saying something.
grover
· 1 year ago
This is definitely borderline unthinkable, but Notre Dame could still go 10-1... I think this year one of these teams will make the final top 12, not because they are so much better this year than in years past, but simply because the 3 of the 5 BCS conferences are so down this year. I think there is also some sort of rule about being in the top 16 and ranked higher than a BCS conference champion for an automatic entry. I can certainly see the best ACC team ranked >12 come year end, so these teams may not even need to crack the top 12.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Notre Dame is DEFINATELY a BCS team...If they are eligible they will be in (guaranteed only if they are in the top 8, but really...). This could happen even with two losses.
You are correct about the ACC and the top 16 rule. I don't believe this opens a window for any other team but it certainly makes the window larger for the teams listed above.
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
I don't know who will be the BCS Buster but 1Tomcat has my vote for #1 Sack Buster on here!
Cougar_Fan
· 1 year ago
Good article, but are you sure that Cinderella thing is worth that many spots? I would say its worth only about three. For Hawaii it was worth just enough to get them into the BCS game. Its also worth mentioning that the Cinderella effect has a corresponding glass ceiling effect we'll see soon when BYU won't be able to jump in the polls past the fifth position, even though the MWC is widely considered better than the PAC 10, Big East, and ACC. Which is why you're utes had better slap the beavers around this weekend and keep winning so that BYU and Utah will both be around top 5 when they play each other!
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
5 spots in the polls, when the 2/3 weighting is considered, translates into a difference of 0.0167 points in the BCS standings. If you look at last year's final BCS standing this would mean Hawaii deserved to be between Florida and Illinois. This would have left them at #13 and out of the BCS.
All biases have a variable effect depending on where you are in the standings and generally decrease as you near the top. Once a non BCS team enters the top 10 the effect begins to diminish. This is how Utah got stagnated in the polls in 2004.
In general people watch the top of the rankings much more carefully and allow personal opinion to maybe make some difference on down the rankings. As teams reach the top 5 much greater consideration is given to the performance on the field, including the strength of the opposition.
BYU has an advantage over the 2004 Utes this year because the conference is much stronger in the computers this year. If a non BCS team is strong enough to break into the top 5 the BCS computers begin to help them more as they, IMO, do not factor in SOS nearly enough, relying too much on W/L record.
Outside of the Cinderella non BCS teams always do better in the computers and Utah in 2004 did better in the computers once they reached the top 10. Hawaii last year was the first time I ever saw the computers be significantly lower than the polls even for a Cinderella.
Fans of BCS non AQ conference teams have no room to argue about the formula, in fact I rather like it. The system as a whole, that makes it unreasonably hard for most teams to get a shot at the title, is another question altogether.
The BCS #1 vs #2 excludes any chance of an outsider getting a split champion unless they are #3, almost #2, and have a VERY CONVINCING win while the #2 squeaks out meager victory over #1.
Cougar_Fan
· 1 year ago
Ok Ben, so this time in 2004 Utah was 14th, and when they played BYU that year they were 5th. If both teams run the table up to that game this year I think it would be a safe bet to put Utah and BYU around 3 or 4 this year, especially considering that the MWC is much stronger this year than in 2004, I think it's a very real possibility that the Mountain West gets someone into the national championship! I know that sounds crazy but it shouldn't! why does USC still get a chance even though they lost to Oregon State, and they play in a conference which at least this year is inferior? If they can do that then an undefeated Utah beating an undefeated BYU can do it! or vice versa. Oh man this is an exciting year. It'll be interesting to see how things go with Fresno State and Boise State since they're also heading towards a colossal match up at the end of the season too! Can you imagine 4 non BCS teams in the top ten!!
Mars
· 1 year ago
Boo-hoo, BYU is ranked so high because of some "bubble", not because they have 0 conference losses the last two years and have finished in the Top 16 two seasons in a row, and returned their entire offense, and are the last non-BCS team to win a National Championship. Right.
Porcine
· 1 year ago
The BCS did not exist until 98'. What happened between 84' and 98'?
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
UPDATE:
LA Tech has been eliminated by Boise State. Air Force is eliminated due to its loss to Navy.
This leaves 7 BCS non-AQ conference members vying for a top 14 spot.
With a loss to Hawaii, Fresno State can not afford another loss.
All Comments
hokieg
Or you can go to a place like Buffalo Wild wings and watch 20 games at a time.
As for BYU playing the Hokies, I can get behind that. During the regular season, BYU wins by less than 6, and doesn't score more than 34. In a bowl match-up, Beamer Ball takes over. Remember; it's the offense that get's ya there, but it's the defense that wins it.
It is better defense than Tennessee has, a low bar I admit.
I think this year one of these teams will make the final top 12, not because they are so much better this year than in years past, but simply because the 3 of the 5 BCS conferences are so down this year.
I think there is also some sort of rule about being in the top 16 and ranked higher than a BCS conference champion for an automatic entry. I can certainly see the best ACC team ranked >12 come year end, so these teams may not even need to crack the top 12.
You are correct about the ACC and the top 16 rule. I don't believe this opens a window for any other team but it certainly makes the window larger for the teams listed above.
All biases have a variable effect depending on where you are in the standings and generally decrease as you near the top. Once a non BCS team enters the top 10 the effect begins to diminish. This is how Utah got stagnated in the polls in 2004.
In general people watch the top of the rankings much more carefully and allow personal opinion to maybe make some difference on down the rankings. As teams reach the top 5 much greater consideration is given to the performance on the field, including the strength of the opposition.
BYU has an advantage over the 2004 Utes this year because the conference is much stronger in the computers this year. If a non BCS team is strong enough to break into the top 5 the BCS computers begin to help them more as they, IMO, do not factor in SOS nearly enough, relying too much on W/L record.
Outside of the Cinderella non BCS teams always do better in the computers and Utah in 2004 did better in the computers once they reached the top 10. Hawaii last year was the first time I ever saw the computers be significantly lower than the polls even for a Cinderella.
Fans of BCS non AQ conference teams have no room to argue about the formula, in fact I rather like it. The system as a whole, that makes it unreasonably hard for most teams to get a shot at the title, is another question altogether.
The BCS #1 vs #2 excludes any chance of an outsider getting a split champion unless they are #3, almost #2, and have a VERY CONVINCING win while the #2 squeaks out meager victory over #1.
Oh man this is an exciting year. It'll be interesting to see how things go with Fresno State and Boise State since they're also heading towards a colossal match up at the end of the season too! Can you imagine 4 non BCS teams in the top ten!!
LA Tech has been eliminated by Boise State.
Air Force is eliminated due to its loss to Navy.
This leaves 7 BCS non-AQ conference members vying for a top 14 spot.
With a loss to Hawaii, Fresno State can not afford another loss.