With a win this weekend Utah will be in a BCS Bowl. It will be the Fiesta or Sugar Bowl vs an SEC or Big 12 team currently in the top 5 or Missouri.
Utah's offense can't keep up with Texas Tech, Florida, Oklahoma of Texas. Utah would perform best in a defensive battle. Of the 6 possibilities, the team Utah matches up with best is Alabama. Alabama is over rated.
- Cue dream sequence music -
So, Suppose Oklahoma faces Florida in the NC Game and Utah upsets Alabama convincingly in the Sugar Bowl. Further, suppose Oregon State wins the rematch with Penn State in the Rose Bowl.
Utah would be the lone unbeaten BCS bowl team, having beat two teams in BCS bowls including a BCS Bowl winner, Oregon State. Could this be enough to convince AP voters to split the title?
It is a media product and that would make for a story to cover for a while...
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U.of S.C.1978
· 1 year ago
A more likely scenario:
- cue death knell bell music -
Alabama submarines Utah, ends a dream season.
- end the scary bell music -
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I wouldn't mind Bama submarining Utah just to show how they're (Utah is) really over-rated, sort of like Georgia did to Hawaii in last year's Sugar Bowl. I believe that was last year wasn't it? ...........when Georgia just demolished (creamed) Hawaii's undefeated and untied Rainbows by 40 - 50 points. This could happen again to Utah, for sure ......... if Utah plays Alabama, that is. I can really see that happening again. ....... deja vu ..........
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Yes. Utah is just like Hawaii.
I will give you that we have barely won several of our games like Hawaii. The difference is we will have played 3 top 25 teams on the way, not the worst schedule in FBS. Unlike Hawaii (or Boise State for that matter) Utah actually has a line and a defense.
Alabama is not as strong as Georgia was last year either. Of all the teams in the top 5 Alabama is the team Utah matches up with the best.
If Utah is over rated, Alabama is even more so. The picture would be closer to what Boise State did to Oklahoma in 2006, only with a much lower score.
I liked the Utah State fans yelling over rated at BYU when BYU was only winning by 20. How is that for fan support.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
B.P., You make some very valid points if all your facts are true. If they are true concerning Utah's top 25 competition and everything, I agree with you totally, even though one of those top 25 wins, I know, came against T.C.U.. They (T.C.U.) might have had a good day against B.Y.U, but barely escaping with a 13-10 win. B.Y.U. is another team that's been over-rated all year, according to me. Nevertheless, Oklahoma, beat T.C.U. 35-10. I guess, based on those two scores, I would say you definitely make a valid point. Oklahoma, I would say, would kill Alabama, almost, if not worst than they beat T.C.U.; and Alabama is definitely over-rated. YOU'VE REALLY CONVINCED ME that a Utah vs Alabama tilt might be very competitive. That could be a very entertaining game between A WAY-OVER-RATED TEAM, Alabama and a LITTLE LESS OVER-RATED TEAM, Utah. Alabama just beat L.S.U. 27-21 in overtime, be you me; and I feel that Utah and L.S.U. should be rated about the same, 12th or 13th, with either team being 12th or 13th. TheMayor said that Vegas had them both Utah and L.S.U. (I believe that Vegas had both Utah and L.S.U. rated that way anyway) rated somewhere around those 2 positions in their poll 12th and 13th,; and I mostly agree with that whole Vegas poll except for 1 team. I can't remember what team that was right now (right off hand, anyway). But, that team will come to me, no doubt. But, I believe you've now convinced me concerning the Alabama vs. Utah matchup. I just didn't have all the information you just supplied me. I just felt that Utah was over-rated, but not as much as Alabama, for sure. Thanks, B.P.
Lookin' back at that whole Vegas Poll just then, I like it; and I pretty much agree with that poll, even though U.S.C. will not play in the N.C. game, unless some VERY WEIRD THINGS HAPPEN in the next 2 or 3 weeks happen. Of course, we go by the final B.C.S. Poll and some really strange things would have to happen for U.S.C. to get in there, for sure. But, we definitely go by the B.C.S. Poll, not Vegas or any other poll. So, however the B.C.S. plays out will determine the B.C.S.; and the bowl games as well (I would say).
Utah vs. Alabama looks good, though, now.
Zac
· 1 year ago
The year Boise St beat Big-12 Champ, OK, in the Fiesta Bowl, they had beaten 6 teams which went to bowl games, 5 which won them. One of them was 10-game winner, OR St. That win, the undefeated season, and their win against the Sooners, got them a #5 ranking. My point is, none of it helped to elevate Bosie St any higher. I don't think Utah having beaten at team which is BCS past, present, or future will help either.
Besides, USC is going to the Rose Bowl, provided they don't fall a 2nd time. They did lose to OR St, a ranked team. But OR St lost to Stanford, an unranked team, who USC beat. While I would like very much to see an AL/UT match-up, and it may happen, I don't think a win against the Tide will get them any closer than Boise got; not if the BCS committee has already made up their minds.
I will say this. Given undefeated Boise St is not in the same conference as BYU & UT, should UT beat BYU, both should go to BCS bowls. JMO.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Oregon State is going to the Rose Bowl by virtue of both having 1 loss. But, the tie breaker is their head to head competion, in which, Oregon State won. If both end up with one loss, and I believe that's 100% probable, Oregon State, as co-champion of the Pac 10 (With the tie breaker, of course) goes to the Rose Bowl against the Big 10 champion. That's the way it's always been. Pac-10 vs. Big 10 champion. But, with B.C.S. picture, I'm not sure how the Big 10 looks in this scenario now. I believe it's the same this year.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Alabama is over-rated. But, Utah is too (In my opinion). I think Alabama would beat Utah soundly, if not destroy Utah. I don't think Utah would do nearly as well if they were in the S.E.C. I can see at least 4 losses if they were in the S.E.C. I think you know who the 4 teams I would choose that would beat them; don't you? In this order of strength ........ Florida, Alabama, Georgia, L.S.U., probably Ole Miss (Ole Miss is strong, ya better know it!). There are others that I believe Utah might have trouble with in the S.E.C. also.
OK vs. Fl. is an extreme possibility; T.T. vs. Fl.; Not very likely Alabama will be there, though.
If Utah could beat Alabama, it could be enough reason for A.P. voters to split the title. We beat # 1 in the B.C.S. OK in '03, but we were #2 and OK was # 1 at the time. We were B.C.S. champions and Coach's Poll Champions. U.S.C. was # 1 or # 2 A.P., but # 3 in the B.C.S. They won the Rose Bowl, not that convincingly, and still won the the A.P. Poll for a Split National Championship. In that case, U.S.C. had one loss (California) and L.S.U. had one loss (Florida). But, the A.P. gave them a share of the title. They were clearly # 3 in the B.C.S., and they got a share of the title by virtue of winning the Rose Bowl by the A.P. voters. I didn't agree at all. L.S.U. won 2/3 of the National Title. We need a playoff really.
The only way is to change the B.C.S system and have a playoff to really determine the true National Champion, like the NAIA has or something.
TheMayor
· 1 year ago
Ben,
I like your dream sequence...
You asked me earlier about The Las Vegas Bowl opponent that I'd prefer the Ducks to face...that would be anyone but BYU or Utah. Too much LDS support in Las Vegas.
I am in a pickle as I would love to see Oregon State go to the Rose Bowl, but in order to do that my Ducks have to lose in The Civil War. If OSU loses to UA this weekend I will be totally pissed.
I don't think people outsideof the Pac-10 realize that USC may not go to the Rose Bowl even with an 11-1 record. The Beavers control their own destiny.
A PSU/Oregon State Rose Bowl or a USC/Buckeye Rose Bowl would be such a let down.
I am pulling for an OSU/OSU Rose Bowl.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
I think most people don't believe Oregon State will win their last two games.
Even if they do, USC will go to the Fiesta Bowl.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
But, I want U.S.C. to play Bama in the Sugar Bowl ....... even though a Texas, Texas Tech, or Oklahoma State, or Oklahoma vs. U.S.C. would be sort of interesting too (In the Fiesta Bowl, that is). Of those 4 teams, I would prefer U.S.C. play either Texas or Oklahoma, though, ........ if there's no Bama vs U.S.C. matchup possible in the Sugar Bowl..
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
I didn't think Oklahoma State could get tot he Rose Bowl...
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
B.P., In most normal circumstances, Oklahoma State can't go to the Rose Bowl because It's usually the Pac-10 vs. the Big 10 champ that plays in this bowl. But, with us now going by the B.C.S. teams and selections , I think things could be different these days. Nonetheless, these 2 conference champs, the Pac 10 and the Big 10 have always had ties to the Rose Bowl. But now, depending how they're ranked in the B.C.S., who knows? Anything is possible. Personally, I think it should be or it'll be Oregon State (the co-champs in the Pac 10, but goes by virtue of a victory over U.S.C., the other co-champ) vs. Penn State (Who'll probably be the outright champs in the Big 10, unless something unexpected happens in the Michigan State vs. Penn State matchup in their final game. I expect Penn State to beat the Spartans (Mich. St.) go to the Rose Bowl vs. Oregon State, unless Penn State is obligated to go to some other B.C.S. Bowl; and if they're a B.C.S. team as they are at the present time. Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!
But, I do't think Oklahoma State will get to play in the Rose Bowl in any way, fashion, or form, myself.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Obviously the Mayer was refering to Oregon State vs Ohio State with his OSU vs OSU Rose Bowl matchup, and I was being silly with Oklahoma State.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
B.P., Oh ....... I forgot about Ohio State. Penn State already beat them; and I'm expecting the same outcome when Penn State plays Michigan State in their next game (this weekend?). ......... and oh ...... how silly of me to think you really meant Oklahoma St.. But, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt if they may or may not know something concerning something, and, in this case, college football. I'm still learning allot of things everyday myself concerning college football or anything else, for that matter (even when I'm wearing my toga and selling flowers at the airport, as T.E. suggests; If T.E. says it, it must be true; right?). The rules and everytning are constantly changing like everything else does (change). Thanks for letting me know you were just being silly. Ya see? If someone didn't even know what a first down was, I would explain it to them without makin' fun of it. Well ............ thanks for lettin' me know, nonetheless.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
TheMayor:
Jeez, I sure hope we don't go to the Rose Bowl. That has become a rather boring beatdown of a Big 10 team. I'm actually pulling for Oregon State - so that we can get to go and play in the Sugar, Orange or Fiesta bowls instead. Besides, it'll give Oregon State a chance to show what they can do. Oregon is a nice team also. Normally, I like Oregon more, but this time I am goin' to be hopin' that Oregon State wins out. I don't care if they end up at 9-3 and in the Rose Bowl. It'll make up for those Oregon and California teams that were passed over while being 11-1 and ranked in the Top 5 in the country. Let's see if they snub an 11-1 Trojan team from BCS consideration? I can almost see them putting a 10-2 Ohio State team ahead of us though. That would be about par for the BCS course.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
With yawl's weak conference, I think yawl should go to the Independence Bowl. Yawl should be in the S.E.C.; and, if yawl are lucky, yawl might finish 5th .......... of course, in the S.E.C West. Well anyway ...... some people in Shreveport might want to see yawl play. I would love to make the long trip to Shreveport myself, even though the Independence Bowl has ties to the mighty S.E.C. and the Big 12. By God bless ya.
TheMayor
· 1 year ago
What is a Yawl?
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I forgot. You're not from the deep south, say, Louisana, and or, Texas. That's what we in the south refer to when we mean more than 1 person. Like in the north, they say 'you guys' or in the state of Mass., they say 'yous guys', like in Bauston (Boston), Massatusits (Mass.). You might say 'you people' in California, I don't know'. But, if we said 'you people' down here in the south to a black person or a Tex Mex, it would be known as or considered as discriminition. They would think I was talkin' about just blacks or Mexicans; and they get mad (very mad) when one refers to them that they are the ones that do whatever one would be referring to in the case of 'you people'. One might even get fired for discrimination over such thing just for saying 'you poeple' to someone you thought you knew but really didn't actually know very well (when they get mad and telll the boss, for example). Nonetheless, 'yawl' is just when we're referring to more than 1 as in 'we' and 'yawl'. ?Comprendo, mi amigo? or Do you understand, my friend?
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
Very similar to y'all.......which is southern slang for "you all"......lol.
"Your honor, is it possible da two yoots....." "Excuse me, the two what....Uh, wha...what was that word?" "What word...what?" "Two what?" "Did you say Yoot?"
I asked that question before GT, I was told it was two Utah football players....but then I am from Oklahoma...
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
T.E., you're so smart. You explain things so well. This Saturday when we see each at the Ole Miss game, please teach me your logic. You explain things so well. Just maybe you might give me your autograph and give me some pointers of just how you do it. You can sign your name on my bald head, on my L.S.U. toga that I'll be wearing, or even one of the purple and gold L.S.U. flowers that I'll be giving out at the game. That would make you a flower child .......... now, wouldn't it? I'm lookin' forward to your personal tudoring. You can teach me a whole lot, don't ya know? But, it'll be an incredible experience if you ever teach me a fraction of what you know, or, as some might say, 'I want to be like you when I grow up'. But, I definitely want your autograph .......... for real .......... preferrably on my L.S.U. toga ........ and I look forward to meeting and knowing ya, for sure.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Thanks GT0107 I'm surprized that the word yall is not universal. It really burns me up when someone says you guys especially down here When in Rome do as the Romans do It also sounds funny to watch a movie or T.V. show set in Texas because of the phoney fake corny accents.Its ridiculous to hear Yankee's-no offense[thats what we call yall] try and sound Texan - Like TV Dallas, King of the Hill,or Friday night lights etc etc BTW I loved that movie[My Cus Vin} and enjoy listening to those Jersy accents-like on Sopranos etc etc Hookem-Horns
I can picture U.S.C. vs. Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. That would be a great matchup; plus it would settle some things concerning just how US.C. compares to the 2nd best team in the S.E.C. If they fair well, they could compete in the S.E.C. But, I don't think their record would have just one loss and even 0 losses during their regular season. The S.E.C. is much more physical than the Pac. 10 Conference; and competition from top to bottom in the S.E.C. is much stronger than that of the Pac 10. Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!!
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
deathvalley56:
You can forget about your picture. Please do adjust your set. There is something the matter with your picture. First off, they would never throw Alabama to USC, in any kinda bowl game. Alabama will go to the Sugar Bowl and get to play the Big East Chump. That's the way they play the SEC in Bowl games. They will never let Southern Cal knock the crap outta any of your top teams.
Furthermore, Alabama is a nothing game. The marquee game would be in the Fiesta Bowl with USC playing the Big 12 runnerup. That's the game that the BCS will set up. Oregon State has got to win out though. That game will either be USC vs Oklahoma or Texas. That's the "other" National Championship game that they want. Alabama would be blasted off the face of the planet by Southern Cal - just like their gonna be by Florida.
The "Vegas Boyz" rank the teams like this:
1.) Florida (9-1) 2.) USC (9-1) 3.) Oklahoma (9-1) 4.) Texas (10-1) 5.) Texas Tech (10-0) 6.) Penn State (10-1) 7.) Alabama (11-0) 8.) Missouri (9-2) 9.) Georgia (9-2) 10.) Oklahoma State (9-2) 11.) Ohio State (9-2) 12.) Utah (11-0) 13.) LSU (7-3) 14.) TCU (9-2) 15.) Boise State (10-0) 16.) Oregon State (7-3) 16.) Oregon (8-3) 18.) Arizona (6-4) 19.) BYU (10-1) 19.) California (6-4)
Sagarin's Predictor ranks them in this manner:
1.) Florida (9-1) 100.90 2.) USC (9-1) 100.70 3.) Texas (10-1) 95.26 4.) Penn State (10-1) 95.15 5.) Oklahoma (9-1) 92.56 6.) Texas Tech (10-0) 90.96 7.) Missouri (9-2) 89.05 8.) Alabama (11-0) 88.06 9.) Ohio State (9-2) 87.46 10.) TCU (9-2) 86.76 11.) Oregon State (7-3) 85.34 12.) Iowa (7-4) 85.28 13.) Oklahoma State (9-2) 85.11 14.) North Carolina (7-3) 83.94 15.) Boise State (10-0) 83.78 16.) Utah (11-0) 83.64 17.) Georgia (9-2) 83.16 18.) California (6-4) 83.01 19.) Boston College (7-3) 81.85 20.) Arizona (6-4) 81.84
This means that Florida would beat Texas Tech by 9.94 points on a nuetral field. It means that USC would beat Alabama by 12.64 on a nuetral field. Is it a coincidence that the two most common tools that set the "betting line" do not have Texas Tech or Alabama even in the same vicinity as Florida or USC? I'll tell you what - I'll stick with the guys who do this stuff for a living. Some stupid sportswriter from the east or the south, who only looks into the paper every Sunday morning, and tries to determine who are the best teams - I'm just gonna have to pass on that guy. If you all want to keep "gargling that koolaide" - well just go ahead and be my guest. In the end, you'll all get to find out that "Cinderella" not only lost her slipper, but she never made it back home either. This is college football here. This isn't fantasy land.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Wow! Vegas ranks them pretty close to the way I would. But, unfortunately, we go by the B.C.S., and I see it playing out with the winner between Florida/Alabama and Oklahoma/Texas Tech to play for the N.C., unless something unexpected happens in the championship game with Missouri. Florida should beat Alabama, bouncing them to probably # 1. Alabama went from # 8 to # 2 after beating the then # 3 Georgia. That was crazy!!! But, I think by virtue of a Florida victory vs. Alabama (unless they lose to Auburn 1st). Florida needs to pull for Alabama vs. Auburn or that will, no doubt, hinder their chances tremendously, even if they beat Alabama. If Florida just smeared Alabama after an Alabama loss, who knows what the B.C.S. would rate the teams, then. But, that Vegas poll is pretty good. But, I think, even being 11-0 should be below L.S.U. L.S.U. should be between 11th and 13th, though, but I believe ahead of Utah in any case. They (Utah doesn't) don't play a powerful S.E.C. schedule. That's why they're undefeated. They would have at least 3 losses if they played L.S.U.'s schedule (Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and L.S.U., at least).
Nonetheless, I just heard on 'College Football LIve' (Direct TV) that they would love a Sugar Bowl matchup with U.S.C and Alabama; and I thought that would be nice too. The # 2 team in Big 12 will end up being the Tech/Oklahoma vs Missouri loser; and I expect that to be Missouri, even though there's 3 or 4 teams from the South that are better than they are, unless they go by rankings. That would make the 2nd highest ranked team (Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, or Oklahoma State), as you say playing U.S.C. in the Fiesta Bowl. In the later case, that would be a very good matchup with U.S.C., one of those 4 Big 12 South teams, that is. But, Alabama is better than Missouri, thus, making the U.S.C. vs Alabama game much more interesting (to me, and I believe to most experts as well). But, if U.S.C. were to play one of those 4 teams from the South, that would be as eqally as interesting. MIssouri ......... NO, though.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
One other thing, even according to the B.C.S., Missouri is only the 5th best team in the Big 12. I hope they would put the 2nd highest ranked team from the Big 12 in the Fiesta Bowl against U.S.C. On the other hand, that's how they do it, I believe, anyway. The Fiesta Bowl is one of the B.C.S. games, isn't it. Then, the # 2 team from the Big 12 vs. U.S.C. would be a pretty good one too, not to say that an Alabama vs U.S.C. game would also be a great one too. Have a great day.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
The only way that U.S.C. (in your scenario) would get to pleay either Texas or Oklahoma is if Texas Tech beats Oklahoma. That's not as much a given as Florida beating Alabama. Missouri surely wouldn't be any match for U.S.C. But, even though I don't like Alabama, they would be a more formidable foe for you guys might think. They wouldn't be undefeated; and in the top two in the S.E.C. (Florida a distant # 1). Whether it's Oklahoma, Texas, or Texas Tech playing U.S.C., they all should and would also be very entertaining to watch. However, for myself, I would love to see U.S.C. beat the crap out of Alabama to really show them and their cocky fans just how strong they're not. They're very forturnate to be undefeated anyway, just like we were last year (IN REGULATION; 2 LOSSES IN TRIPLE OVERTIME). However, we did go on and win the National Championship vs Ohio State 38-24. If they (Alabama) can continue to be as fortunate as we were last year and win it all, they deserve it just like we did last year (The B.C.S. N.C.). But, I don't think that's the way it's gonna play out for them, and I, myself, would hate to go undefeated and lose their 2nd to the last game (Florida) and possibly losting their last game too (In a Bowl Game). Ouch!!!!!!!!!! That would hurt alot worse than havin' a loss, 2, or even 3 lkie we do. Later ........
I'm just showing .... that a game finally between U.S.C. and Alabama would just show everyone just how good U.S.C. really is, and or, just how bad Alabama really is since they'll probably demolish Alabama. If it's close, then, it may not settle anything. They both could be very strong then afterall (If both look good, that is). I think it would let alot of people know something about both teams to see if either really is for real, though.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Why in the world would anybody rank Missu ahead of Oklahoma st- OK st beat Missu Missu shoulda lost to BU- Do any of these pollsters actually watch the games? OK st only has two loses both to top ten teams- Texas & Texas Tech
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I hope YOU GUYS play in the Sugar Bowl vs. Bama. That would be very interesting. Ya see? ....... The Bear learned alot from U.S.C. back in his day when he took his team out west to play powerful U.S.C. After that, Bear's Crimson Tide became a powerhouse themselves. But, I definitely want that matchup in the Sugar Bowl this year, unless Bama gets there and gets to show just HOW NOT GOOD UTAH really is (that is, if Utah makes it there against Bama). That right!!! I said 'UTAH'!!! It could be Bama vs. Utah, don't ya know? It could be like deja vu from when Georgia played the the undefeated and untied Hawaii Rainbows (I believe, last year) and destroyed them by 40 or 50 points in the "08 Sugar Bowl. Of course, this year's Sugar Bowl will be the '09 Sugar Bowl, for the record. Nonetheless, either situation would okay with me. But, U.S.C. vs. 'Bama would be a great matchup this year, I believe; and it would settle alot of questions (Arguments over just how good U.S.C. really is (Alabama too!!!!!) and how they stack up with the S.E.C. this year) concerning just how good each program really and truly is.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
deathvalley56:
The USC/Alabama game is probably not gonna happen. The Oregon State RB Jaquizz Rodgers is listed as "doubtful" for Oregon. The Beavs will probably also use Canfield as the QB in that game. He's not the most effective QB - but the other guy has been hurt. It will be extremely tough for the "Beavs" to beat the "Quacks" in this one. Besides, the Ducks are coming out in their new "outfits". They usually debut pretty good in their new unis. Should Oregon beat Oregon State - then we're gonna have USC vs Penn State in the Rose Bowl. That's a very good game for both. But, I really would have rather played a Big 12 or SEC team in another matchup. It's very unlikely right now.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I agree, but I still would like the Alabama vs U.S.C. matchup from an S.E.C. standpoint and for anyone that wants to see Alabama get smeared standpoint. I think U.S.C. would lay it on 'em myself. Alabama wouldn't know what freight train hit 'em. As far as that Oregon and Oregon State info. you gave me, I didn't know that. No matter what concerning it, I would rather Oregon State win that game against Oregon because Penn State never has excited me with their brand and style of football; and I would rather not see an overpowering and snazzy U.S.C. squad play what I consider to be a boring style of Penn State team. To me, a U.S.C. vs Penn State is not a very interesting game at all. I would rather see what Utah is really made of; and some how they could get matched with U.S.C. myself. Nonetheless, I know that my preference of U.S.C. vs Alabama probably won't transpire, despite my wishes. Have a good day; and 'thanks' for the information concerning the Oregon State vs. Oregon game.
NMLSooner
· 1 year ago
If the playoffs started this Saturday: 8 Cincinnati @ 1 Alabama 5 Boise State @ 4 Penn State 6 Georgia @ 3 Oklahoma 7 Missouri @ 2 Florida 8 Ball State @ 1 Texas Tech 5 Ohio State @ 4 Utah 6 Oklahoma State @ 3 Georgia 7 BYU @ 2 Texas
PFCP
· 1 year ago
Okay so the rankings just prove how jacked up the BCS is.
Texas Tech shouldn't be #2 period come on Eastern Washington, Southern Methodist, Nevada, Are you kidding me?
You beat TX with a last second TD at the end of the game AT HOME. Then you beat OK St, really only credible win where you actually dominated throughout while actually playing a decent team.
Don't get me started on the garbage of the PAC10 you have USC and no one else. go play in a real conference, I will give USC the fact they actually played some ranked teams
TX at least played quality teams before losing a real close one on the road so they should STILL be over TX Tech who played garbage teams until then.
Bama played decent teams and UF since their loss has out scored opponetts 299-63 and they've played "someone" all year and they still have FSU and Bama to play the only real "scrimage team" they play is the citadel unlike TX Tech who plays Southern Methodist and Eastern Washington seriously GTFO
sure some of the teams UF has played have had down right awful seasons but TN Ark and UK are still way bigger names than Eastern Mich or Southern Methodist. Hell even Hawaii is at least 5-5
If UF runs the gauntlet and beats FSU and Bama in the SEC championship there is no way they shouldn't be in the NC game
And UF has destroyed highly touted teams LSU 51-21 UGA 49-10 where TX Tech barely squeaks by TX and then gets a legit win over OK St.
The Championship game as of right now should be either Bama/UF vs TX or OK
TX Tech shouldn't even be in the picture PERIOD why the hell they are is beyond me.
you could make an argument for Utah to play but they haven't really played anyone either except Michigan (which sucks this season but its still MICH football) and TCU Utah's conference really hurts em IMO
AUtigerman
· 1 year ago
What planet are you from?
Bama has the 90th ranked strenght of schedule compared to TT 22. Seems to me its a bit switched around. Not to mention that TT is a pretty darn good football team.
SOS dosent count in the BCS standings, but my goodness the disparety of this should raise some eyebrows in the other polls wouldnt you think? My prediction is that if TT wins over Oklahoma they will jump Alabama.
TSOBO
· 1 year ago
Accoring to Sagarin a wuss and liar. Fact Bama has played better teams than TT. TT has played 1 team that is good Texas. The Big 2 OU and Texas and the rest are overrated this year.....way overrated.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
You're right about one of the championship teams. But, I believe there's 99% chance it'll be Flroida rather than Alabama. On the other hand, Texas Tech beat Texas; and if they beat Oklahoma, in which I think they will (50/50 chance, though), Tech should be playing Florida for the National Championship. Tech came through in the clutch. There was no luck involved either. Crabtree just caught the pass with one second left on the clock and calmly scored the winning T.D. Still, I think Texas got lucky against Oklahoma, though (the Ball bounced their way); and if they played again, Oklahoma would beat Texas. That's just my opinion; and I know ya only get one shot at a team during a season (usually). This is the case this time too. So, it will be, in my opinion, Florida vs. Texas Tech for the National Championship.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Your Wrong-Did you see the game? Texas beat Oklahoma by 10 points-Texas got lucky? DV 56 Texas has beat OU 3 outa the last 4 and still gets no respect-it was a-hell of a game Texas won How bout if Texas vs Texas Tech had a rematch-what would be the results? a last second score the other way? Hookem-Horns
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
1Tomcat, ........Yeah ..... I did. 45-35 ...... Texas got alot of breaks going their way. I realize good teams make breaks. That's what happened in Lubbuck when y'all squared off against TT (39-33) on the pass to Crabtree from Harrell with 1 second on the clock. T.T. methodically marched down the field to beat Texas that game. Concerning the rematch with T.T. ....... and had it go the other way ...... that's a question that one can only speculate. That's 20/20 hindsight and that won't happen. On the other hand (We'll see this weekend O.U. vs. T.T.), we'll see if O.U. can beat T.T. (or better, will beat T.T.). If they do beat T.T., you could have a valid point. But, if T.T. beats O.U., they officially would've run the table on other 3 best teams in the Big 12, Texas (39-33), Oklahoma State (56-20), and Oklahoma (TBD). Anyway, what did Texas beat Oklahoma State by again ........... huh? I didn't hear ya ................. shhhhhhh (28-24, that's what it was).
P.S.-I even like Texas the best (I'm partial to Texas out of those teams). In fact, behind L.S.U., Texas could be my distant 2nd overall favorite team in the country. But, facts and numbers don't lie here.
If O.U. wins, it could be a real mess in the B.C.S. But, if OK beats T.T., because of the timing of the game (the schedule and everything), I'm sorry. But, because of this scenario (OK beating T.T., that is), I believe that OK will be at least # 2 then, and in the N.C. game, probably vs. Florida.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
PFCP, As of right now, I see it as being Florida vs. Texas in the N.C. game unless something weird happens in any of these games : Texas vs. Texas A & M, Florida vs. Florida State, Oklahoma vs. Oklahoma State, or Auburn vs. Alabama; and with these rivalries still yet to be played, U.S.C. could even be back up there, expecially if all those favored teams lose. Then .... Utah is even in the the picture. Can you believe that? It could even be U.S.C. vs Utah in the B.C.S. National Championship Game (Very, very, very unlikely, though ...... and this is really a pretty huge understatement, although it is conceivable). If all expected favored teams prevail, however, I think Florida will take care of business vs. Alabama, and since the B.C.S. has Texas as being higher rated than Oklahoma mainly becaause of head to head competition (45-35 Texas over Oklahoma), Texas will be in the Big 12 Championship game and Texas will take care of business vs. Missouri, thus making for a Florida vs. Texas B.C.S. N.C. Matchup; and I think Florida will prevail vs. Texas for the B.C.S. National Championship. Have a great day, PFCP!!!
PFCP
· 1 year ago
What planet are you from?
Bama has a weak schedule yes, but I hope you're not trying to tell me that playing Eastern Washington (big sky conference 5-5) Southern Meth (C-USA 1-10) Mass ( CAA team who plays no one) Nevada (WAC) is in any way comparable to playing teams in the SEC/ACC even the bad SEC/ACC teams are way above the best CAA Big Sky and WAC teams only exception might be Bosie State out of the WAC
TX T plays BS scrimmage game teams all season barely beats TX at home and has one legit win, let them go to the NC it will be like watching OK play USC that was a fun game to watch *rolls eyes* 55-19 I think it was...when that massacre finally ended.
I'll give them KS game too so 2 legit wins, barely beating Nebraska at home again in OT
If TT beats OK they still be no where near deserving to be a NC contending team.
UF vs TX or OK should be the title game
Tyler_Tech
· 1 year ago
You are an idiot. Why is Texas deserving????? They bearly beat ok state at home and we kicked the crap out of them!!! DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE TT VS. TEXAS GAME????? Texas was dominated in every aspect of the game!!!! We did not score on 6 straight drives and still won the game!!!!!! WOW stop now while you are behind!!!!!! IF WE BEAT OKLAHOMA WE DO NOT DESERVE TO BE IN THE TITLE GAME??!?!?!?!? WHO EXACTLY HAS OU OR TEXAS PLAYED THAT WE HAVE NOT!!! WE ARE IN THE SAME CONFERENCE JACK ASS!!! Someone please ban this little boy from the site!!!! P.S. BAMA AND TT ARE AT THE TOP BECAUSE THEY PLAY IN MAJOR CONFERENCES AND ARE UNDEFEATED. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT BEAT THEM!!!!!
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Calm down, man. I agree with ya. Texas Tech deserves to be playing for the national title if they beat Oklahoma, and I think they will. But, it's gonna be close, I think. Hopefully, they'll pull it out like they did against Texas. Better yet ..... that was way too close. I hope it's not that close. Florida will play Texas Tech for the National Title. That's my opinion, anyway. If you don't know my prediction for that game (Between Florida and Texas Tech), you probably don't want to hear it though. I've predicted the winner many times on the post.
PFCP
· 1 year ago
I'm an idiot. And you're the one typing big blobs of text in all caps like a little kid.
Tyler_Tech
· 1 year ago
yes you are an idiot
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I think PFCP and you, T.T., need a time out, don't ya think? He might be an idiot. But, you are so immature. it's incredible that you can act like a 5 year old. Try to be nicer to each other. It takes whole lot less energy, ya better know it.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Yall havent played Oklahoma,Missu,Ark,Rice,Baylor,Colo,FAU,UTEP Yall played E. Wash,Nev,SMU,UMass,K St,Neb The only mutual opponents so far are KU & OK st Texas beat them too I saw yalls A&M game, it was close A&M was actually leading at the half-thats A&M a team that got destroyed by Baylor The game I saw at Lubbock was a last second hail Mary in which a true Fresh missed a tackle or Texas would be undefeated- Yall aint beat OU or BU yet- we have and the Horns are fixing to whup A&M in a convincing victory at Home Hookem-Horns
Tyler_Tech
· 1 year ago
Haily mary???? I expect better from you tomcat. We could have kicked a field golad to win FYI. Come one your better than this garbage post.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Do what- Na That walk on kid couldnt hit it from there, If that Fresh DB coulda held on to the INT game over Horns win, same with the missed tackle at the end push him out game over. Nothing garbage about my post its fair and objective. Tech made one lucky shot and barely squeezed by with 1 second If yall win in Norman and get past BU then Missu shouldnt be a problem- hows that for garbage Hookem Horns Sicem-Bears beat Tech Go Cowboys beat OU
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I totally disagree with your last statement PFCP. They'll still be undefeated, and if they beat Missouri in the Big 12 Championship game, they certainly deserve it. They would've officially run the table in Big 12 and their whole schedule, no matter what luck to get there they got along the way. Great teams produce luck along with their great skill. Sometimes, if a great team's skill isn't there, somehow they produce (manufacture) their own luck. Beats me how that happens. It just does. So, if they win out, they should definitely be in the N.C. game, that's for sure, PFCP.
We (L.S.U.) could have lost 5 or 6 games last year, not just the only two games that we did lose (in triple overtime, be you me). We beat Auburn on a miracle pass on the last play of the game. We beat Alabama with just a few seconds on the clock, and we played subpar against Florida, and we got very lucky to get out of that game with a win. Then, we totally dominated Ohio State (Then, B.C.S. # 1) in the title game and won 38 -24; and I think that we could've beaten Ohio State worse if we didn't lighten up on them in the 4th, and call our dogs off of them by playing some replacements and by just not really trying to run up the score.
AUtigerman
· 1 year ago
You honestly think your out of conference record is tougher then theres?
Clemson 5-5 Tulane 2-8 Western Kentucky 2-9 Arkansas state 4-5
Im an Auburn Fan and an SEC fan but the reality is that TT is in the toughest division of any conference this year.
The SEC west is way way down. Not to take away from Bama ,obviously a well coached team but your schedule has turned out to be a cream puff.
IMO the voters ought to grow a pair and put TT,Texas, Oklahoma and Florida above Bama in the rankings. If Bama goes on to win the SEC then they would move up. Based on how they are playing now
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I agree with you. When the Tigers went down, so did the whole conference ........ both the Auburn Tigers and the L.S.U. Tigers. It only makes sense why the conference has gone down. The Big 12 is stronger from top to bottom. However, our top team, in which I think is Florida, is better than their top team. I think TT, Texas, Oklahoma, and, of course, Florida all should be above Alabama, that's for sure. On the other hand, and unless Alabama has a miracle, Alabama will not come close against Florida. I hope even Auburn beats them before the S.E.C. Championship game. That should be like Auburn's personal National Championship game. Nevertheless, in the S.E.C. Championship game, Florida needs to play with allot of emotion, though. That goes for Auburn in their game with Alabama (I believe, November 29th) Nonetheless, with college kid's emotions, anything can happen. Geaux L.S.U. Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!
AUtigerman
· 1 year ago
I agree with your assessment of Florida as well. Since im an AU fan living in Florida and surrounded by Florida fans i hate to admit it , but they do look like the best team right now.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Agreed, unfortunately ...... I don't like Florida or Alabama. I'm an L.S.U. fan in Texas ......... and I'm surrounded by Texas fans ........ not too many Texas Tech fans, however. I'm not near Lubbuck But, I believe Texas Tech is the best over here ...... but, not better than Florida ........ but, Texas Tech is better than Alabama.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
DV 56 dont tell us your in the Austin area, we had a guy on here all the time that was a Sooner fan living in Austin.I dont think that Longhorn fans would live in Norman. Glad your on here enjoy reading your post Hookem-Horns
TampaGator
· 1 year ago
LOL! Lennie found God, and came back a LSU Tigers fan...
GO GATORS!!
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
LMAO!! That's too much, man. Way too much.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Thanks for your insight, 1Tomcat. I enjoy reading your posts, as well. Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One other thing, by the way, the year before we won the 2003 National Championship, I was at the Cotton Bowl when y'all put it on us, 31-20, and it should have been alot worse. Texas dominated us, for sure!!! Regardless, however, we still won the B.C.S. National Championship the following year (2003). So far (2003 and 2007), L.S.U. is the only team in the country that has won 2 B.C.S. National Championships. I think Texas could get their 2nd B.C.S. N.C. if they have some positive things go their way in the next 2 or 3 weeks. This week really (O.U. vs Texas Tech) will be very important, I think for this years' Texas' N.C. picture.
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
That would be hilarious TC, Lennie incognito as a LSU fan and you actually getting along with him........LMAO
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 1 year ago
Nah, we set the filters to be on the lookout for certain catch phrases, like:
Is good people...
Was it something I said...
Practice (repeated 14 times)
Butt buddies....
Crimson and cream true...
Poor Lennie. He wasn't so bad when he was on his meds. I don't know what kind of sentence he got in the Fanblogs jail, but maybe he'll get time off for good behavior. They'll probably release him into a half-way homer blog for Sooners, first...
Conditions of his parole will be to stay away from politics and Longhorns...
WEA are you gonna help with uniform threads ? you got to coordinate dogoneit
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Ron I'm laughing so hard my sides are hurting aint laughed this hard since that time at the beach 30 years ago when someone gave me a shot of mushroom juice Bless you Ron- thank all of yall, dang this too dang funny
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Anyone else notice the gap between Utah and USC keeps shrinking?
When Utah beat TCU the lead went from 0.0579 points to 0.0204 points. Stanford is significantly better than SDSU, yet Utah only lost .0026 points to USC last week. If Utah gets the same jump from BYU as they got from TCU they will be ahead of USC by 0.0145 points next week.
This begs the question... If Utah beats BYU will they jump USC? Should they? Would USC jump Utah the next week with a win over UCLA while Utah is off?
This much I know ... at least Utah can beat Oregon State.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Sure, L.S.U. has lost 3 games. But, they lost to the pre-season # 1 team in the nation, Georgia (ranked # 11 right now), lost to this year's National Champion, the Florida Gators, and lost to the over ranked and # 1 Alabama (right now). They all have something in common. They're some of the best in the country at one time or another, that's what they are. I know L.S.U. is 6 - 3, but I know they can beat Utah (Even being 11-0; they don't play S.E.C. competition, no one better than 6th best in the S.E.C, at best), Boise State (Even being 10-0; La Tech is in their conference?, probably BYU (10-1; Still no S.E.C competion), Michigan State (9-2; the Big Ten is no match for the S.E.C. as Florida and L.S.U. has totally destroyed Ohio State, their champion for the last couple of years), T.C.U. (What can I say about them; they lost to Utah, who is way over-rated; they don't play teams like we have in the S.E.C.), and Ball State (10-0; who do they play that's comparable with anyone in the top tier of the S.E.C.? Let me know, and if they do, they would not be 10-0, that's for sure). Therefore, L.S.U, even being 6-3 and having a lackluster game against Troy, a pretty good team and making the biggest comeback in L.S.U. history. Alabama is lucky that the then 6-2 L.S.U. Tigers didn't beat the supposedly # 1 team all the way back to Tuscaloosa. Alabama is very fortunate that their National Championship dreams didn't end then instead of either on November 29th or December 6th. But, their dream will end on one of those two dates, that's for sure.
L.S.U. should be rated either 11th or 12th, possibly ahead of Missouri. But, with our pass defense, Missouri's Chase Daniel might light up the skies. So, I say 12th, at least, despite having 3 losses to 3 #' 1's, all ranked # 1 at one time or another). Florida will be there after the National Championship game (# 1).
Bama_Babe
· 1 year ago
deathvalley,
Your logic is beyond ridiculous... I honestly don't know where you come up with this stuff. ??
Tyler_Tech
· 1 year ago
Wow I will never get those 2 minutes of my life back deathvalley after reading your post. That is the most insane reasoning i have ever heard. What is it like living in your world? Is it similar to entering Willy Wonka's chocolate factory???
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
You just like Alabama. I know football. Have a very blessed day, sweetheart.
Bama_Babe
· 1 year ago
I like Alabama? Yes. You know football? Judging by that last post, I wouldn't be so sure.
You have a very blessed day in your own little world, sweetheart. ;)
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Sweetie, I'm old enough to be most people's daddy, maybe grand daddy on these posts. I'm retired; and I even remember the night that Bert Jones and his cousin, Andy Hamiltdon teamed up to upset Notre Dame 28 - 8. Bert also beat Ole Miss 61-7 and Archie Manning, Peyton's and Eli's dad being the quarterback and playing with a cast on his left arm. Death Valley went wild that night. Unfortunately, I had to watch that game on T.V., though. Ya see; Notre Dame used to dominate college football along with Alabama until the Bear used the appropriate time to start recruiting black football players. I don't like Notre Dame or Alabama, Alabama because we couldn't beat the Bear.. Notre Dame used to be a power house along with the Bear's Crimson Tide; and L.S.U. couldn't beat the Bear. That's why I don't like Alabama. We couldn't beat the Bear. That made me ill from year to year. I was alive when L.S.U. won their 1st National Championship in 1958 too with Billy Cannon winning the Heisman in 1959. Need I say more? I hope you understand. I mean no harm to you younguns. Have a great night, sweetie.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 1 year ago
You never call me sweetie any more...
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I was talkin to Bama_Babe, old man. Geaux Tigers ...... L.S.U.'s Tigers. But, I hope yawl beat Bama, that's for sure.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
There's only one girl that I'm aware of on these posts and everything. So, when I say 'Sweetie', it''ll be her unless I see another young lady is on the posts. Sorry about the misunderstanding, old man. Have a great day.
Bama_Babe
· 1 year ago
Just because you were alive back in the day doesn't mean your reasoning makes any sense. So what if you remember when LSU won their first NC in '58? You think LSU should be ranked in the top 15 because they lost to 3 teams that will/have been the "#1 team at some point in the year". That is ridiculous. But I guess you can have your own opinion....although your opinion leads us other readers to believe you don't know much about football.
That's all I was sayin' .....
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
No matter whether one believes what their elders say, that does not give them an excuse to talk to them that way. I"ll tell you a little about me. I played high school football for the 5th ranked team in the nation in high school, am suffering from arthritis because of playing says the Neurosurgeon and Rhumotologist. In high school, we only lost 1 game out of the 25 that we played during my junior and senior years. My junior year we were ranked # 5 in the nation, according to a national syndication. I'm retired and can't move around very much, just watch college football live on Direct TV and play on my computer. There were no computers when I was in high school, maybe when I went to L.S.U. did we have access to a computer.
I also have a son who is 30 years old, and I taught him to respect his elders. He got most likely to succeed in high school.
By the way, about what I said about L.S.U. and the Troy miracle comeback, Les Miles just reiterated my thoughts about them playing uninspired after the emotionally draining Alabama loss. He also said what I had said that they were looking at Troy as a nobody. But, on the other hand, I knew Troy were co-leaders of the Sun Belt Conference, not a strong conference, but co-leaders nonetheless, certainly not the S.E.C. "The team finally came to life just in time to pull it out and realized what was happening", he said; and they were lookin' ahead to the Ole Miss game. He admitted that he didn't do a very good job of letting our Tigers knowing how dangerous Troy could be. Their best quarterback was finally back healthy and they had us on the ropes until the L.S.U. Tigers finally got inspired; and the guys were even very excited to pull this one out, especially after trailing by 28 points almost to the beginning of the 4th quarter too (About 2 minutes left in the 3rd quarter), even though it was only Troy.
I know you have good parents who taught you to respect your elders, and or, crippled old people like me. Have a very nice day, young lady. I'll just be off and on at my computer again today, I guess. Have a blessed day, young lady.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
For instance, we lost 2 games last year to unranked teams (But, in triple overtime; 0 losses in reg., 0 in overtime, 0 in double overtime, but 3 in TRIPLE OVERTIME) young lady. i don't know what your football coach said when you played football, but ours told us to play the entire 60 minutes, not 70 minutes or 59 minutes and 59 seconds; but 60 complete minutes, and he told us to not ever give up. I played the same year Earl Campbell played for the # 1 high school team in the country, John Tyler (Out of Tyler, Texas, of course). You remember Earl, I know, or you at least have heard of him? He just happens to be one of the greatest backs in high school, college, and N.F.L. history. He also won the Heisman Trophy while playing at Texas; and he played for the Houston Oilers and the New Orleans Saints under Bum Phillips. Our high school team (that I started for) was merely ranked # 5 nationally. Nevertheless, we won the B.C.S. national championship with 3 TRIPLE OVERTIME losses to 2 unranked teams (Kentucky and Arkansas); and we play (like yawl) in the toughest conference in the nation. The Big 12 is comparable this year, however. Have a great day, young lady.
TigerEducated
· 1 year ago
You talk down to everyone with a sneer, subtly condescending attitude, and talk about respecting folks' elders, etc...
This place is a community of peers and equals...You continually try to project over folks here, over and over again...
She's been her longer, and contributed more, than you have...
We all know that you hope we have a blessed day. We all know that you hope we start reading the Bible-at least with the Book of John. Nobody is coming here to hear that or read that. To subtly tell folks they need religion just because they're not cowtowing to whatever you say and however you say it, or bowing down to your superior knowledge...Well, its a bit irritating...
You make posts that include two sentences worth of actual substance, and then its about 20 worth of, "I walked to school uphill both ways, and then I played the same year Earl Campbell came out."
Then you talk about LSU losing one more game than we actually did last year (We lost TWO games, not THREE), and say that we only had six wins this year, instead of seven...
Seriously...You need to cut out the "respect your elders", routine, and the "killing folks with kindness" when you're actually talking down to them is wearing thin as well.
If you can't treat folks here simply as fellow college football fans, and not allow your age, and your attitude to color how you talk to people, you are not going to have any credibility, nor respect here.
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
Amen.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
With the exception of 1Tomcat, I believe all of your peers deserve time out. Gettin' along with others is so much less draining. Unless someone on these posts that have any nice thoughts toward me, I just won't be on here anymore. Thanks for makin' me feel welcome. I'll be lookin' for ya and hoping to meet ya at a Tiger game. I hope to be good friends with ya. Maybe, you can push me around in my wheel chair. I go to 4 games a year also. But, I'll either be in my wheel chair or a car around the campus. I know what ya look like. I'll certainly be lookin' for ya; and I hope to meet ya soon, old man; and to be pleasant with one another, for sure. Isn't that cool way to be, old man? Have a great day; and I look forward to possibly running into ya on the L.S.U. campus.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I know that we lost 2 games (In TRIPLE OVERTIME) to two unranked teams (Arkansas and Kentucky); and I just made an honest mistake concerning saying we had only 6 wins instead of 7 this year. You've made a mistake before, haven't you? As far as killing folks with kindness, that's what God wants me to do when they're not being kind to us (Believers; God's children). He may be bringing me home soon; and I boldly come to the throne of God and expect a blessing. To end this, I just want to spread the Gospel (The Truth); and if you believe, I won't just see you in Tiger Stadium (Hopefully, at least this Saturday on campus), I'll also see you in Heaven. To make you happy, I won't say anymore about that.
Speakin' about being college football fans, I've been an avid college football fan for 39 years (hum .... isn't that your age?).
Concerning Earl, I was just a junior playing the same position as he was that year (1973), and he was on the # 1 team in the nation in high school and I was on the # 5 team in the nation. I, myself, didn't compare to Earl, personally. I was just happy to be on a team that was ranked so high in the country, and starting, at that, with so many stars and everything. It was an unbelievable experience just to be out there doing my own job; and to have Sports Illustrated there watching a particular superstar on our team (not me) and college coaches from all over the country, including Texas, L.S.U., U.S.C and many others were also watching him. That was really out of this world and exciting for me. I was very thankful for that, that our coach thought so much of me that he let me start on a team where, the player behind me at my position could run backwards faster than I could run forward. I was a very fortunate guy, but I played smashmouth football, and I paid the price for playing that way too because I have arthritis all over my body now because of the way I played. I played 150% on every play, at practive and in the games.
As far as being equal, I'm certainly equal to anyone on these posts in the form of college football knowledge (The subject on these posts); and as far as being your peer, I'm just 13 years older than you. But, my football playing days has crippled me; and I can't do much more than play on my computer. I love college football. But, people should always come ahead of college football. For example: Happy Wife, Happy life. But, I still love college football; and I know alot about it too, especially, L.S.U. Nevertheless, I still feel that you and I could be friends and I am among my peers and equals on these posts. I apologize for offending you and all the others in anyway. Would you and the others forgive me? Thanks!
I just give my opinions. Like I respect everyone else's opinions. I just have my own. I respectfully respect yours and I ask you to please respectfully respect mine. Opinions are like ... you know what .... everyone has one. I just have my opinions like you do. I respect yours. There's no room for criticizing someone else just for giving their own opinions; and people (human beings), even though they could be very knowledgable, they (we) do make mistakes. Have a great day, T.E.
TigerEducated
· 1 year ago
When I mentioned the term community, I meant it...
You entered into a community and started calling folks out as individuals...and you started extolling your knowledge. I came here and started asking you some specific questions, and the circular logic started on your part, along with the Onward Christian Soldier Routine...
You did not act as a guest, and you certainly didn't show any humility upon your appearance, but you castigate others here-and me especially-for "not making you feel welcome".
Now you're talking about a disability almost as if I should feel bad for calling a spade a spade in light of your condition.
I went and got an EKG done at 10:30CST last night...I have an appointment with a cardiologist early next week...Does that mean you can stop talking down to me or throwing things in my face?
Why don't you leave your issues at the door, and just enjoy this place and the camraderie that can be experienced amongst fans of ALL teams, and college football in general.
You're like a classic passive aggressive Don Quixote...
RELAX and just talk some football...Nobody's going to attack you if you don't attack them first...Cut some jokes, don't take yourself so seriously...
This is a great site, and the folks around here are equally great...It's pretty obvious that even an abrasive guy like myself has found a way to interact and make friends here...I'm sure you can do the same...
Just check your sense of righteous indignation at the door...We're all on equal footing here...No matter if we're in wheelchairs or posting from a Blakcberry while standing up....
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I'll pray for your condition. Please pray for me and mine. I hope to see you this Saturday at the Ole Miss game. If not, maybe I'll get the pleasure of meeting you at a bowl game this year or one of the 4 games I plan to attend next year. Have a nice day; and I'm praying for you.
TampaGator
· 1 year ago
My sentiments exactly; good stuff, TE.
I play my cards pretty close to vest for that very reason; let the posts stand or fall on their own. Personal matters oughtn't come into play.
Now, on a completely contradictory personal note...I hope that EKG/cardio deal works out ok.
GO GATORS!!
TigerEducated
· 1 year ago
Bama_Babe sent me some risque photos, and after that, it was all downhill....
Arterial Fibrilation is what they called it...
(Just kidding, guys...B_B did nothing of the sort)
TampaGator
· 1 year ago
[EDIT]
...must...show...restraint...
GO GATORS!!
Bama_Babe
· 1 year ago
HAHA. Good one! ;)
TampaGator
· 1 year ago
You're a good sport...
...and, quite possibly the most knowlegeable, articulate and reasonable Bama fan on FB...
...true story!
GO GATORS!!
Bama_Babe
· 1 year ago
I appreciate that, TG. I try ;)
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Agreed; I hope your EKG/cardio deal works ouf ok, too, T.E.. ....... Geaux Tigers!!!!!!! And I surely hope the Gators beat Alabama in the S.E.C. Championship game. Later ..... T.G.
Bama_Babe
· 1 year ago
Thank you, TE. ;)
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
I'm not near as old as you, but I know that Texas beat Bama and Joe Namath and that Bama has never beaten Texas, doesnt matter if they claim 24 NC's whatever! I'm kinda glad they are back in the picture nationally and I'm kinda disappointed with the recent decline at AU, Tenn and Mich- and plum tickled pink about Ark and A&M's decline Trivia question #1 What team had a winning record and beat the National Champ and fired their successful coach #2 What team beat there arch rival in back to back years finished 8-5 and fired their coach, to find themselves at the bottom and finish 4-8 but they still have a good band BTW It was before my time, but wasnt it a Bama player that came off of the bench and tackled a Rice player that was going to score- in Sugar Bowl ??
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I know you're not as old as me. But, we can get along, I'm sure. I try not to be glad about anyone's decline, even though I am human; and Notre Dame and Alabama. Dan Divine and Ara Paracedian (not spelled correctly, I'm sure) were 2 of Notre Dame's Coaches and Bear Bryant was Alabama'a; and L.S.U. couldn;t beat him (the Bear). That's when I stopped liking Alabama. Nick has nothing to do with my dislike for Alabama. Against the Bear we never came that close, except in 1969 when we won 20-15, and that win came in Baton Rouge. We've only beaten Bama 4 times, I believe, since 1969, inclusive, in Baton Rouge. As for Notre Dame, everybody either loved them or hated them. Well, I didn't like them very much. Our (L.S.U.'s) series with Notre Dame is close (5-4 Notre Dame, I believe). Our series with Bama is a ratio of 3 or 4 to 1, I think, but in favor of Alabama.
As far as your trivia questions are concerned, I did take a college football break. My wife is much more important than anything or anyone; and I stopped paying as much attention for a few years. She is will always be the most important thing in my life. Concerning your questions, I can only guess the answer to question # 1 might have been Auburn, but I''m not sure at all. It's a wild guess. If you gave me multiple choice trivia, it might ring a bell and I might even do whole lot better. But, at my age with my memory going, that's not for sure either. Your number # 2 question doesn't make any sense after coach, ................... However, it was a Bama player (I'm' pretty sure) that came off the bench and tackled that guy. I remember seeing that on T.V. That had to be really embarrassing for that player (A real understatement); and I bet the Bear chewed him out too. Have a great day!
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Thats for your reply #1 Arkansas Razorbacks #2 Texas A&M Aggies -sorry I worded it wrong went from 8-5 one year and go 4-8 the following year. I'm not really tickled pink about there decline, because the Longhorns play both of these teams and had those teams continued with their success it would only help the Longhorns. Before the season started you better beleive that the Texas players were fired up about a rematch with the Hogs old rivals, now it doesnt look like that big of a win. Same thing with A&M they were always a decent opponent and beat Texas the last two years, now it seems like the game wont be as meaningful as in years past. I'm sure both of these programs will rebound, but when who knows, they both had winning teams and both ran off their coaches, I guess 8-5 aint good enough for some and heck with the level of competition in the B-12 & SEC just getting to a Bowl is an accomplishment. That last question that I posed about the player coming off the bench will probably be answered by someone on here Adios Tomcat
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I thought for sure that Alabama was involved in that game in some way or another where that player came off the bench and tackled that player, though. I remember seeing the replay over and over. I can't remember what year that was or I might have even been watching the game. Thanks for your answers to questions # 1 and 2; and straightening me out with the correct wording of # 2. The wording was sort of screwed up a bit, it seemed, and it was sort of hard to understand. I used to be a trivia buff until I got my priorties straight and I've forgotten allot of that information that I once had. I used to be walking encyclopedia of all of football, both pro and college. Now, I hardly ever watch the N.F.L. But, I am loyal to La. New Orleans is my favorite N.F.L. team.
I agree with you that both programs will probably rebound sooner or later (Texas A & M and Arkansas); and I don't believe Florida will be so powerful like THEY ARE THIS YEAR ...... in the next 2 or 3 years, at least. However, if one is loyal to a program, whether up or down, I advise them to stick with them and be a true fan. L.S.U. went 2-9 and 3-8 in the early ninety's and I had season tickets. I'm not a band wagon Tiger fan; and if a person likes someone else, my advice is that it's more respectable to not be a band wagon fan. Stick with and be loyal to your team is my 2 cents worth of advice. No matter what sport it is, whether it's tittly winks (just kidding; just trying to make a point) or women's volleyball, I love all of L.S.U. sports. But, my wife and children (people, in general) come ahead of L.S.U.
As far as A & M and Arkansas are concerned, I used to not like them. But, some of the most important people that I care deeply about do like them. So, I respect their likes and dislikes a great deal; and I'm glad that you're not really tickled pink about the decline of those fine school's football progams.
To continue, Arkansas has renewed its old rivalry when they joined the S.E.C. (With L.S.U., when they play us for the Golden Boot each year) as the Southwestern Conference fell apart that had teams like Baylor, Texas, Texas Tech, S.M.U. T.C.U., Rice, Texas A & M, Arkansas, and maybe 2 or 3 other teams that I can't think of right now. In that conference, Texas and Arkansas was the Biggie every year. I remember, in 1969 (watching it on TV), Texas # 1 played Ark. # 2 and Texas won 15-14 on a two point conversion at the end of hte game. Texas could be my second favorite team; and I was pulling for them then. But, today, because of my people priorities, I would probably pull for Arkansas, however. Well anyway, Texas had a receiver named Cotton Spier (Misspelled, I'm sure) and James Street was their quarterback. Texas had to convert a 4th down pass to Cotton Spier to the 10 yard line and went for 2 at the end of the game to win the National Championship. If I remember right, that 4th down pass went from the 50 yard line all the way down to the 10 yard line where Cotton Spier caught that game saving catch.
You're right that 8-5 just won't hack it in the S.E.C or the Big 12. The average job for coach at L.S.U. is 2 - 4 years, I believe, and just not being able to beat one team, Alabama, put one of L.S.U.'s coach's job in jeapardy. This coach eventually did get fired and not beating Bear Bryant, I heard was one reason that he got the ax (the boot). His name, of course, was Charlie Mac. He coached L.S.U. for around 19 years (longer than any other coach at L.S.U. by far, I believe) after Paul Dietzel coached L.S.U. and lead them to the 1958 National Championship with Billy Cannon, our only nation championship until we won the B.C.S. in 2003 and 2007.
One last note, A & M will be back, and you can bank on L.S.U. being back close to what they were last year too, and just maybe, we will win another National Championship during my lifetime. But, my advice is to be loyal to your favorite team, whoever it may be. Have a great day.
Porcine
· 1 year ago
What did you think of the PI and the clip?
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I don't have a clue what you're talkin' about, young man (PI and the clip?).
Porcine
· 1 year ago
In the 69 game one of our wide receivers was called for pass interference that negated a touchdown and one Street's big play one of there players clipped one of our defenders and no call was made.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Since, I believe, you're an Arkansas fan, I'm sorry for the no-call. They make bad calls all the time; and I don't like some against my team that could cost my team the game; and I certainly don't like to win on a call going in my favor. So, I totally understand. Thus, I prefer to win fair and square now. But, I was just 13 then, and I didn't really even notice the no-call. I was just into my first year of organized football myself; and sir, it seems you remember more than I do anyway. Like I said, I was just 13 years old and I was watching the game on any TV I could find. I do remember that the game was played around December 6th, I think. I was just pulling for Texas, and I was just very excited that Texas pulled that one out. The following year, though, when L. S.U. upset then powerhouse Notre Dame 28-8 at Death Valley, I started bleeding purple and gold at the ripe old age of 14, now 38 years and counting. So, I've really been a fan of L.S.U. for 38 years now.
Nevertheless, I don't remember too much more than that 4th down pass to Cotton to the 10 yard line and ultimately scoring a T.D. and then making the 2 point conversion to win the N.C. I was really happy (An understatement, really). Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!! ..............
Porcine
· 1 year ago
There are a lof of stories, not necesaarally this one, but a lot of fact why SWC = Sure We Cheat
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
That's a good one, Porcine. The defunct SWC surely was a very weak conference, that's for sure; and in the end of it, 3 or 4 teams went to the Big 12, 1 went to the S.E.C. (Arkansas), and the others went to Conference U.S.A. (I believe), maybe the W.A.C. (I don't know for sure, though), etc., etc., etc. They just got spread out all over to several different conferences. But, 'Sure We Cheat' is a really good one, Porcine.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Do you live in Arkansas, Porcine? It's a very state, 10 times better than Alabama, but that's not sayin' much. Okay ....... It's just as good as Louisiana. Some very important friends are from Arkansas; and also some special friends that I graduated with live there also. But, do you live there ,,,, that is, if you don't mind me askin'? Don't answer if ya just don't want to. That's okay, too. Have a great day, Porcine.
Porcine
· 1 year ago
live about half-way between Little Rock and the Missouri border. There is an Oklahomer I work with says, "It's like living in 4 different states.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Hum ... I've been up there a few times. Went to Branson, Missouri 1 or 2 times too. 4 different states .... that's hilarious (that's funny).
Porcine
· 1 year ago
He's about right.
Porcine
· 1 year ago
Houston Nutt wasn't fired because of his record.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I didn't think he even got fired. I thought he got an offer from an institution (Ole Miss); he just wanted test new and untested waters. I thought it may be a challenge for him to bring up another program that was more or less in need of a successful (motivator and coach) that could bring them up to be a very competitive one like he did with Arkansas. Arkansas might have been slightly on the decline at the time. But, his overall success there seemed to be fairly good, I thought. Have a a good one, young man.
Porcine
· 1 year ago
Publicly he resigned, but most of the story points to hem being fired. It was more that he and several others were on their way out and cashed in what they could. He knew this teams wasn't going to good, his true colors had shown through, and he took what the could get.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I never new that he got fired and several others were on their way out ...... as you say .... behind the scenes.
I always thought that he was a very good coach (motivator, at least; sort of like Dale Brown used to be for L.S.U.'s basketball team, I guess). Dale couldn't really coach. But, he could motivate with the best of them. I thought Houston Nutt was sort of like that anyway.
But, thanks for your info. I didn't know this; and I appreciate ya tellin' me.
Porcine
· 1 year ago
There was so many shady things going on it would have made a good HBO miniseries. Nutt has many character and coaching flaws that he hides well. These flaws aren't necessarily bad or wrong, they just leave you scratching your head.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I had no idea concerning Nutt's character and coaching. He, indeed, must've hid them very well, that's for sure. I just didn't know about these flaws at all. That's wild. Later.........Porcine
Porcine
· 1 year ago
it boils down to two things: he can't accept blame and he's kind of a control freak. He could get guys to play hard, but it often lead to them playing to the level of competition, unless there was a large disparity in talent.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
That ......... Houston Nutt .... What was (is) he thinkin'? Later, Porcine ........
Porcine
· 1 year ago
He got crazy, more than usual, there for a while. Part of it he was provoked.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
That's verrrrrry interesting. I didn't know that. Later ....... P.S.-Man, you better start a new post ..... You're wearing it really thin ... don't ya think? Hehehehehehehe
T.E. and Bama_Babe, Don't y'all feel badly about talkin' to an old man that way? T.E., by the way, your wife definitely wouldn't like it if she knew about Bama_Babe and you. I know for sure that would't like it; and, if I were your parents, I'd give both of you a good whuppin' and a time out, to boot. My wife used to do that to her kids (time outs; you'd be lucky with her. She didn't give too many whuppins. She was nice) when she taught elementary school. But, she's retired from teaching now. She didn't put them in time out unless they deserved it, either; and you two definitely deserve time out ......... and A GOOD WHUPPIN' also. My little beautiful wife was the best teacher too, but I'm a little partial, I guess, because she is the love of my life. She retired approximately 40 years ago and she's the sweetest woman in the world and also the love of my life. Have a great day T.E. and Bama_Babe.
Bama_Babe
· 1 year ago
I don't even know why I'm wasting my time responding to this.........but, even though I'm pretty sure everyone else understood TE s joke, I just want to make it clear that he was kidding about the pictures.
Deathvalley, don't make this something it's not. You and your "whuppins" can go somewhere else.
Have a great day.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Okay; I understand too. I apologize for the misunderstanding ya, Bama_Babe; and I won't make it something that it's not; okay? By the way, speaking of T.E., I thought I saw him at the Ole MIss game the other day. But, I didn't have eough time to find out for sure. Ole MIss just put an Ole MIss whip ass on us, and by 17 points more than they Beat Florida. Well ....... we just got whipped and our Interception happy true freshman quarterback got knocked out of the game to boot. That's the only bright for us (L.S.U.), that while he was in the game, which for almost 1/2 the game, would ya believe it? He didn't throw a record setting 8th pick six of the seaon. He's still got seven pick seasons and holdin....... that is, for right now. You ...... have a great day too, Baba_Babe; and, by the way, I just returned from a VERY LONG trip to Baton Rouge. That's why I've finally just gotten a chance to reply to you, Bama_Babe. Later ...... and good luck against Auburn and Florida.
TigerEducated
· 1 year ago
Ummm...Excuse me...Here...In the back...Just wanted to point something out...
We're 7-3...Not 6-3...
Carry on with the rambling, highly nonsensical posting...Don't mind me.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I'm sorry. I forgot. I knew that. I guess I even overlooked the largest comeback in Tiger Football history. But, I knew that we were 7 - 3. I guess I overlooked it, even myself, dog gone it. Have a blessed day.
TigerEducated
· 1 year ago
Do you have a shaved head, wear a toga, and hand out flowers at the Airport?
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
How did ya know? The secret is out. You've decribed me to a Tee. Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
T.E., what gave me away; or how did ya know? What gave me away?I even played in the movies one or two times ........ in Smokey and The Bandit I and II ........ I even used to play football for the Florida State University Seminoles ........ and my first name is Bert .......... and you guessed right! But, I've regressed to shaving my head, wearing a toga (L.S.U. toga, though), and you can always find me at the nearest airport handin' out purple and gold L.S.U. flowers. Since I left Florida State and starred in the movies, I've converted to being an L.S.U. Tiger fan; and yes, I do have a shaved head, I even wear a toga, and right at this very moment, I'm at the airport handing out flowers. I've got my toga on right now. You're pretty amazing!!! You're either Psychic or ya just plain flat out know me some how. What gave me away, dude? I want to meet ya ....... andmaybe .... it might be this weekend at the Ole Miss game. I'll be lookin' for ya becaue I know what ya look like; and you know what I look like ...... apparently. Thanks! I want to be your friend, along with the other 92,400 in atendence at Death Valley. Man!!! .......... you knew I had a shaved head, I was wearing a toga, and I was handing out flowers at the airport!!!!!!!!!! That's crazy!!! Ya seem to be a relly amazing Tiger fan, that's for sure. ........... See ya, Saturday, I hope ........... Lookin' forward to meetin' ya in person. ......................................... Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S.-You definitely can't miss me since I look like that; and you know what I look like too. Isn't that off the chain good?
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Ummm ....... you deserve a real whuppin' and a time out T.E.. I just made a little mistake. I knew that we had 7 wins instead of 6. Just don't jump to conclusions without really knowing the facts. I'm gonna have to give you a time out now, T.E. (Maybe even that all important spankin' for discipline, don't ya know). You need one to get straightened out. I don't want you to end up on the streets or in prison. Have a great day, T.E.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Hey DV 56 I got to kind of remind you that LA Tech beat Miss st and SEC team. Utah has a good team and they beat the TCU Frogs this year and they are one of the top defensive teams who's only other loss was to Oklahoma. When trying to compare teams that havent faced each other based purley on speculation it gets quite difficult, like Ben said they did beat Oregon St a team that beat USC. Its what we call here a victory chain- for example my son likes Baylor, my brother is a big UT fan-Last year he told my son I dont know why you like Baylor bunch of losers, my son replied well at least we beat Kansas St. So just because Texas beat Baylor and Baylor beat Kansas St didnt mean anything because Kansas st beat Texas- you see what I mean These things happen repeatedy and even though its fun to speculate really doesnt mean too much. For Example like last year Missu beat ILL and ILL beat OSU doesnt mean that Misuu would beat OSU- Why say you think that LSU would be ranked close to Missu- Texas whuped Missu bad and OK St beat Missu- unranked Baylor lost to Missu 31-28 at the very end, so who's to say about how teams matchup- what really sucks in the B-12 Missu will be the Champ of the North and probably lose to the south and be considered B-12 #2 when in reality they are really B-12 #5 or #6 a three loss team behind Texas,Texas Tech,OK st and Oklahoma so if you think LSU is #13 compare your team to OK st or Baylor better teams IMHO- they both played Texas a better game and OK st beat them and BU shoulda, Missu will lose to either OU or Texas Tech- Adios Tomcat
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Hey Tomcat, La. Tech also beat Alabama a couple of times in the past 10 or 15 years. They were 2 losses to La Tech that were pretty close together too. Thinkin' about it now, one of those wins for La Tech might have come against Auburn and the other one againt Bama. But, I know they beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa or Birmingham (one of the two locations anyway). University of Louisiana at Monroe beat Bama last year or the year before. If L.S.U. had lost to either of these schools (La. Tech or University of Louisiana at Monroe), L.S.U. might have to quit football altogether. I guess that would be similar to Alabama losing to Troy, though. I believe Troy is in Alabama.
Comparing teams who havenn't faced each other is very difficult. It's like comparing Alabama vs. Mississippi St. to Florida vs. South Carolina. That's not the same comparison at all. In my opinion South Carolina is much better than Mississippi State. According to the polls, that's been the case too; and like Florida and Ole Miss, I think Oregon State woke U.S.C. up that they must be dominant; and U.S.C., for the most part has been pretty dominant since that loss to Oregon State. I had thought that loss was against Oregon, not Oregon State. But, I'm probably wrong with a brain fart.
As far as liking Baylor, stick with them like I have done (win or lose) with L.S.U. To get back to your matchups, ya know? Some teams just match up athlete for athlete better against some teams than others do. It's really crazy. But, some teams can beat some teams and can't beat the same teams that they themselves can beat, if that makes any sense. It's the matchup at certain positions, in my opinion. I still think L.S.U,, even with a 7-3 record should be ranked close to Missouri. I have confidence in L.S.U.; and I believe they're better than many people give them credit for (Even this year). We, of course, don't have the same personnel as on last year's National Championship team, and of course, no one from the 2003 National Championship team either. If L.S.U. and Missouri were in the Big 12 North together, I believe it would believe it would be Missouri, L.S.U. in a close race myself. This year, talent-wise, I believe that Missouri is a notch ahead of us. But, we will be back. You can bank on that. I think Missouri should be ranked # 11 and L.S.U. should be ranked # 12. Who knows? That could be how they (Or, at least one of them, anyway) are ranked in the final A.P., Coach's, Harris Interactive, B.C.S., etc., etc., etc. polls in the end.
Consequently, just playing a tough schedule in the S.E.C. makes a 3 loss team (in the S.E.C.) better than even an undefeated team in others where they don't play anyone. San Diego State, La. Tech and that's all they play ......... Give me a break. We play 3 or 4 easy non conference game ...... and we almost overlooked and got beaten by one them (Troy). But, we play in the powerful S.E.C. So, 3 losses have allot more punch than some of those undefeated easy conferences. Have a great day.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Have a very blessed day, TigerEducated.
PFCP
· 1 year ago
@ Tyler Tech TT doesn't deserve a title shot unless they smash OK, and even that's pushing it
Yea you beat TX AT HOME on a last second play, you not scoring on 6 straight drives is sad, just sad. And yes I watched the whole game, you still haven't addressed how TT playing shitty teams and winning close games (all at home) makes them deserve a title shot. You only definitvely beat KS and OK st good job...
Hell anyone (except Mich) could play teams like Nevada Southern Meth and East Washington Mass and win all season.
and whoever it was that was arguing that TX shouldn't go..... if TT barely beat TX at home what's that say about TT????
Let TT go to the NC game so they can get smashed
UF plays ONE weak no name team (the citadel) and outscores people 299-63 after one fluke loss to Miss. Oh and the peole UF has beaten to put up that 299-63 run include LSU, GA, SC, ARK, Vandy, UK (who's 6-5 suprisingly)
All of those teams are still better than playing Southern Meth or Eastern Washington
When TT is putting up numbers like UF against the kind of oppents UF is playing THEN they can go to the NC game until then they should sit back and watch.
now tyler you can go on your all caps rant, calling me names, and still failing to address any point I made in a civilized manner as you continue you're toddler's tempertantrum.
Hotty_Toddy
· 1 year ago
(insert past rant about Florida's loss to Ole Miss not being a fluke here)
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
Put it this way. Ole Miss is, at the least, inconsistent; and I hope they don't play the way they played against Florida, or we're (L.S.U. is) in deep trouble. If the team (Ole Miss) that played that good against Florida, we don't have a chance. Ole Miss was outstanding, and they deserved to beat Florida that day. Yawl will clobber us if yawl play that good, for sure, for sure. I just know we had better play at the top of our game, with Lee not throwing any pick 6's to even have a chance against yawl, that's also for sure. Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I would just say Ole Miss was at the top of their game that day. They are consistently inconsistent. I hope they're not that on this Saturday; or we're in deep s&)t.
deathvalley56
· 1 year ago
I agree with ya. TT doesn't deserve a title shot if they don't beat Oklahoma; and they definitely won't get a one either if they can't beat them (this Saturday night). But, if they just come out ahead (whether, they win by 1 point or by 40 points); and then, they beat Missouri in the Big 12 Championship game, they will definitely be there, guaranteed, probably vs. Florida's Gators. Later, old man .......
PFCP
· 1 year ago
It won't really matter if UF wins out they will go to the NC game regardless of what TT does.
PFCP
· 1 year ago
Nice TT great game against OK...kiss your NC dreams goodbye the fluke is over
All Comments
Utah's offense can't keep up with Texas Tech, Florida, Oklahoma of Texas. Utah would perform best in a defensive battle. Of the 6 possibilities, the team Utah matches up with best is Alabama. Alabama is over rated.
- Cue dream sequence music -
So, Suppose Oklahoma faces Florida in the NC Game and Utah upsets Alabama convincingly in the Sugar Bowl. Further, suppose Oregon State wins the rematch with Penn State in the Rose Bowl.
Utah would be the lone unbeaten BCS bowl team, having beat two teams in BCS bowls including a BCS Bowl winner, Oregon State. Could this be enough to convince AP voters to split the title?
It is a media product and that would make for a story to cover for a while...
- end music -
- cue death knell bell music -
Alabama submarines Utah, ends a dream season.
- end the scary bell music -
I will give you that we have barely won several of our games like Hawaii. The difference is we will have played 3 top 25 teams on the way, not the worst schedule in FBS. Unlike Hawaii (or Boise State for that matter) Utah actually has a line and a defense.
Alabama is not as strong as Georgia was last year either. Of all the teams in the top 5 Alabama is the team Utah matches up with the best.
If Utah is over rated, Alabama is even more so. The picture would be closer to what Boise State did to Oklahoma in 2006, only with a much lower score.
I liked the Utah State fans yelling over rated at BYU when BYU was only winning by 20. How is that for fan support.
Lookin' back at that whole Vegas Poll just then, I like it; and I pretty much agree with that poll, even though U.S.C. will not play in the N.C. game, unless some VERY WEIRD THINGS HAPPEN in the next 2 or 3 weeks happen. Of course, we go by the final B.C.S. Poll and some really strange things would have to happen for U.S.C. to get in there, for sure. But, we definitely go by the B.C.S. Poll, not Vegas or any other poll. So, however the B.C.S. plays out will determine the B.C.S.; and the bowl games as well (I would say).
Utah vs. Alabama looks good, though, now.
Besides, USC is going to the Rose Bowl, provided they don't fall a 2nd time. They did lose to OR St, a ranked team. But OR St lost to Stanford, an unranked team, who USC beat. While I would like very much to see an AL/UT match-up, and it may happen, I don't think a win against the Tide will get them any closer than Boise got; not if the BCS committee has already made up their minds.
I will say this. Given undefeated Boise St is not in the same conference as BYU & UT, should UT beat BYU, both should go to BCS bowls. JMO.
OK vs. Fl. is an extreme possibility; T.T. vs. Fl.; Not very likely Alabama will be there, though.
If Utah could beat Alabama, it could be enough reason for A.P. voters to split the title. We beat # 1 in the B.C.S. OK in '03, but we were #2 and OK was # 1 at the time. We were B.C.S. champions and Coach's Poll Champions. U.S.C. was # 1 or # 2 A.P., but # 3 in the B.C.S. They won the Rose Bowl, not that convincingly, and still won the the A.P. Poll for a Split National Championship. In that case, U.S.C. had one loss (California) and L.S.U. had one loss (Florida). But, the A.P. gave them a share of the title. They were clearly # 3 in the B.C.S., and they got a share of the title by virtue of winning the Rose Bowl by the A.P. voters. I didn't agree at all. L.S.U. won 2/3 of the National Title. We need a playoff really.
The only way is to change the B.C.S system and have a playoff to really determine the true National Champion, like the NAIA has or something.
I like your dream sequence...
You asked me earlier about The Las Vegas Bowl opponent that I'd prefer the Ducks to face...that would be anyone but BYU or Utah. Too much LDS support in Las Vegas.
I am in a pickle as I would love to see Oregon State go to the Rose Bowl, but in order to do that my Ducks have to lose in The Civil War. If OSU loses to UA this weekend I will be totally pissed.
I don't think people outsideof the Pac-10 realize that USC may not go to the Rose Bowl even with an 11-1 record. The Beavers control their own destiny.
A PSU/Oregon State Rose Bowl or a USC/Buckeye Rose Bowl would be such a let down.
I am pulling for an OSU/OSU Rose Bowl.
Even if they do, USC will go to the Fiesta Bowl.
But, I do't think Oklahoma State will get to play in the Rose Bowl in any way, fashion, or form, myself.
Jeez, I sure hope we don't go to the Rose Bowl. That has become a rather boring beatdown of a Big 10 team. I'm actually pulling for Oregon State - so that we can get to go and play in the Sugar, Orange or Fiesta bowls instead. Besides, it'll give Oregon State a chance to show what they can do. Oregon is a nice team also. Normally, I like Oregon more, but this time I am goin' to be hopin' that Oregon State wins out. I don't care if they end up at 9-3 and in the Rose Bowl. It'll make up for those Oregon and California teams that were passed over while being 11-1 and ranked in the Top 5 in the country. Let's see if they snub an 11-1 Trojan team from BCS consideration? I can almost see them putting a 10-2 Ohio State team ahead of us though. That would be about par for the BCS course.
"Your honor, is it possible da two yoots....."
"Excuse me, the two what....Uh, wha...what was that word?"
"What word...what?"
"Two what?"
"Did you say Yoot?"
Aw hell, enjoy it yourself : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1V-4boT_ts
LOL....still one of my all time favorites.
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
It really burns me up when someone says you guys especially down here
When in Rome do as the Romans do
It also sounds funny to watch a movie or T.V. show set in Texas because of the phoney fake corny accents.Its ridiculous to hear Yankee's-no offense[thats what we call yall] try and sound Texan - Like TV Dallas, King of the Hill,or Friday night lights etc etc
BTW I loved that movie[My Cus Vin} and enjoy listening to those Jersy accents-like on Sopranos etc etc
Hookem-Horns
You can forget about your picture. Please do adjust your set. There is something the matter with your picture. First off, they would never throw Alabama to USC, in any kinda bowl game. Alabama will go to the Sugar Bowl and get to play the Big East Chump. That's the way they play the SEC in Bowl games. They will never let Southern Cal knock the crap outta any of your top teams.
Furthermore, Alabama is a nothing game. The marquee game would be in the Fiesta Bowl with USC playing the Big 12 runnerup. That's the game that the BCS will set up. Oregon State has got to win out though. That game will either be USC vs Oklahoma or Texas. That's the "other" National Championship game that they want. Alabama would be blasted off the face of the planet by Southern Cal - just like their gonna be by Florida.
The "Vegas Boyz" rank the teams like this:
1.) Florida (9-1) 2.) USC (9-1) 3.) Oklahoma (9-1) 4.) Texas (10-1) 5.) Texas Tech (10-0) 6.) Penn State (10-1) 7.) Alabama (11-0) 8.) Missouri (9-2) 9.) Georgia (9-2) 10.) Oklahoma State (9-2) 11.) Ohio State (9-2) 12.) Utah (11-0) 13.) LSU (7-3) 14.) TCU (9-2) 15.) Boise State (10-0) 16.) Oregon State (7-3) 16.) Oregon (8-3) 18.) Arizona (6-4) 19.) BYU (10-1) 19.) California (6-4)
Sagarin's Predictor ranks them in this manner:
1.) Florida (9-1) 100.90
2.) USC (9-1) 100.70
3.) Texas (10-1) 95.26
4.) Penn State (10-1) 95.15
5.) Oklahoma (9-1) 92.56
6.) Texas Tech (10-0) 90.96
7.) Missouri (9-2) 89.05
8.) Alabama (11-0) 88.06
9.) Ohio State (9-2) 87.46
10.) TCU (9-2) 86.76
11.) Oregon State (7-3) 85.34
12.) Iowa (7-4) 85.28
13.) Oklahoma State (9-2) 85.11
14.) North Carolina (7-3) 83.94
15.) Boise State (10-0) 83.78
16.) Utah (11-0) 83.64
17.) Georgia (9-2) 83.16
18.) California (6-4) 83.01
19.) Boston College (7-3) 81.85
20.) Arizona (6-4) 81.84
This means that Florida would beat Texas Tech by 9.94 points on a nuetral field. It means that USC would beat Alabama by 12.64 on a nuetral field. Is it a coincidence that the two most common tools that set the "betting line" do not have Texas Tech or Alabama even in the same vicinity as Florida or USC? I'll tell you what - I'll stick with the guys who do this stuff for a living. Some stupid sportswriter from the east or the south, who only looks into the paper every Sunday morning, and tries to determine who are the best teams - I'm just gonna have to pass on that guy. If you all want to keep "gargling that koolaide" - well just go ahead and be my guest. In the end, you'll all get to find out that "Cinderella" not only lost her slipper, but she never made it back home either. This is college football here. This isn't fantasy land.
Nonetheless, I just heard on 'College Football LIve' (Direct TV) that they would love a Sugar Bowl matchup with U.S.C and Alabama; and I thought that would be nice too. The # 2 team in Big 12 will end up being the Tech/Oklahoma vs Missouri loser; and I expect that to be Missouri, even though there's 3 or 4 teams from the South that are better than they are, unless they go by rankings. That would make the 2nd highest ranked team (Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, or Oklahoma State), as you say playing U.S.C. in the Fiesta Bowl. In the later case, that would be a very good matchup with U.S.C., one of those 4 Big 12 South teams, that is. But, Alabama is better than Missouri, thus, making the U.S.C. vs Alabama game much more interesting (to me, and I believe to most experts as well). But, if U.S.C. were to play one of those 4 teams from the South, that would be as eqally as interesting. MIssouri ......... NO, though.
I'm just showing .... that a game finally between U.S.C. and Alabama would just show everyone just how good U.S.C. really is, and or, just how bad Alabama really is since they'll probably demolish Alabama. If it's close, then, it may not settle anything. They both could be very strong then afterall (If both look good, that is). I think it would let alot of people know something about both teams to see if either really is for real, though.
Missu shoulda lost to BU- Do any of these pollsters actually watch the games?
OK st only has two loses both to top ten teams- Texas & Texas Tech
The USC/Alabama game is probably not gonna happen. The Oregon State RB Jaquizz Rodgers is listed as "doubtful" for Oregon. The Beavs will probably also use Canfield as the QB in that game. He's not the most effective QB - but the other guy has been hurt. It will be extremely tough for the "Beavs" to beat the "Quacks" in this one. Besides, the Ducks are coming out in their new "outfits". They usually debut pretty good in their new unis. Should Oregon beat Oregon State - then we're gonna have USC vs Penn State in the Rose Bowl. That's a very good game for both. But, I really would have rather played a Big 12 or SEC team in another matchup. It's very unlikely right now.
8 Cincinnati @ 1 Alabama
5 Boise State @ 4 Penn State
6 Georgia @ 3 Oklahoma
7 Missouri @ 2 Florida
8 Ball State @ 1 Texas Tech
5 Ohio State @ 4 Utah
6 Oklahoma State @ 3 Georgia
7 BYU @ 2 Texas
Texas Tech shouldn't be #2 period come on Eastern Washington, Southern Methodist, Nevada, Are you kidding me?
You beat TX with a last second TD at the end of the game AT HOME. Then you beat OK St, really only credible win where you actually dominated throughout while actually playing a decent team.
Don't get me started on the garbage of the PAC10 you have USC and no one else. go play in a real conference, I will give USC the fact they actually played some ranked teams
TX at least played quality teams before losing a real close one on the road so they should STILL be over TX Tech who played garbage teams until then.
Bama played decent teams and UF since their loss has out scored opponetts 299-63 and they've played "someone" all year and they still have FSU and Bama to play the only real "scrimage team" they play is the citadel unlike TX Tech who plays Southern Methodist and Eastern Washington seriously GTFO
sure some of the teams UF has played have had down right awful seasons but TN Ark and UK are still way bigger names than Eastern Mich or Southern Methodist. Hell even Hawaii is at least 5-5
If UF runs the gauntlet and beats FSU and Bama in the SEC championship there is no way they shouldn't be in the NC game
And UF has destroyed highly touted teams LSU 51-21 UGA 49-10 where TX Tech barely squeaks by TX and then gets a legit win over OK St.
The Championship game as of right now should be either Bama/UF vs TX or OK
TX Tech shouldn't even be in the picture PERIOD why the hell they are is beyond me.
you could make an argument for Utah to play but they haven't really played anyone either except Michigan (which sucks this season but its still MICH football) and TCU Utah's conference really hurts em IMO
Bama has the 90th ranked strenght of schedule compared to TT 22. Seems to me its a bit switched around. Not to mention that TT is a pretty darn good football team.
SOS dosent count in the BCS standings, but my goodness the disparety of this should raise some eyebrows in the other polls wouldnt you think?
My prediction is that if TT wins over Oklahoma they will jump Alabama.
Texas has beat OU 3 outa the last 4 and still gets no respect-it was a-hell of a game Texas won
How bout if Texas vs Texas Tech had a rematch-what would be the results? a last second score the other way?
Hookem-Horns
P.S.-I even like Texas the best (I'm partial to Texas out of those teams). In fact, behind L.S.U., Texas could be my distant 2nd overall favorite team in the country. But, facts and numbers don't lie here.
If O.U. wins, it could be a real mess in the B.C.S. But, if OK beats T.T., because of the timing of the game (the schedule and everything), I'm sorry. But, because of this scenario (OK beating T.T., that is), I believe that OK will be at least # 2 then, and in the N.C. game, probably vs. Florida.
Bama has a weak schedule yes, but I hope you're not trying to tell me that playing Eastern Washington (big sky conference 5-5) Southern Meth (C-USA 1-10) Mass ( CAA team who plays no one) Nevada (WAC) is in any way comparable to playing teams in the SEC/ACC even the bad SEC/ACC teams are way above the best CAA Big Sky and WAC teams only exception might be Bosie State out of the WAC
TX T plays BS scrimmage game teams all season barely beats TX at home and has one legit win, let them go to the NC it will be like watching OK play USC that was a fun game to watch *rolls eyes* 55-19 I think it was...when that massacre finally ended.
I'll give them KS game too so 2 legit wins, barely beating Nebraska at home again in OT
If TT beats OK they still be no where near deserving to be a NC contending team.
UF vs TX or OK should be the title game
P.S. BAMA AND TT ARE AT THE TOP BECAUSE THEY PLAY IN MAJOR CONFERENCES AND ARE UNDEFEATED. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT BEAT THEM!!!!!
Yall played E. Wash,Nev,SMU,UMass,K St,Neb
The only mutual opponents so far are KU & OK st Texas beat them too
I saw yalls A&M game, it was close A&M was actually leading at the half-thats A&M a team that got destroyed by Baylor
The game I saw at Lubbock was a last second hail Mary in which a true Fresh missed a tackle or Texas would be undefeated- Yall aint beat OU or BU yet- we have and the Horns are fixing to whup A&M in a convincing victory at Home
Hookem-Horns
golad to win FYI. Come one your better than this garbage post.
Nothing garbage about my post its fair and objective. Tech made one lucky shot and barely squeezed by with 1 second
If yall win in Norman and get past BU then Missu shouldnt be a problem- hows that for garbage
Hookem Horns
Sicem-Bears beat Tech
Go Cowboys beat OU
We (L.S.U.) could have lost 5 or 6 games last year, not just the only two games that we did lose (in triple overtime, be you me). We beat Auburn on a miracle pass on the last play of the game. We beat Alabama with just a few seconds on the clock, and we played subpar against Florida, and we got very lucky to get out of that game with a win. Then, we totally dominated Ohio State (Then, B.C.S. # 1) in the title game and won 38 -24; and I think that we could've beaten Ohio State worse if we didn't lighten up on them in the 4th, and call our dogs off of them by playing some replacements and by just not really trying to run up the score.
Clemson 5-5
Tulane 2-8
Western Kentucky 2-9
Arkansas state 4-5
Im an Auburn Fan and an SEC fan but the reality is that TT is in the toughest division of any conference this year.
The SEC west is way way down. Not to take away from Bama ,obviously a well coached team but your schedule has turned out to be a cream puff.
IMO the voters ought to grow a pair and put TT,Texas, Oklahoma and Florida above Bama in the rankings.
If Bama goes on to win the SEC then they would move up. Based on how they are playing now
Since im an AU fan living in Florida and surrounded by Florida fans i hate to admit it , but they do look like the best team right now.
Glad your on here enjoy reading your post
Hookem-Horns
GO GATORS!!
One other thing, by the way, the year before we won the 2003 National Championship, I was at the Cotton Bowl when y'all put it on us, 31-20, and it should have been alot worse. Texas dominated us, for sure!!! Regardless, however, we still won the B.C.S. National Championship the following year (2003). So far (2003 and 2007), L.S.U. is the only team in the country that has won 2 B.C.S. National Championships. I think Texas could get their 2nd B.C.S. N.C. if they have some positive things go their way in the next 2 or 3 weeks. This week really (O.U. vs Texas Tech) will be very important, I think for this years' Texas' N.C. picture.
Is good people...
Was it something I said...
Practice (repeated 14 times)
Butt buddies....
Crimson and cream true...
Poor Lennie. He wasn't so bad when he was on his meds. I don't know what kind of sentence he got in the Fanblogs jail, but maybe he'll get time off for good behavior. They'll probably release him into a half-way homer blog for Sooners, first...
Conditions of his parole will be to stay away from politics and Longhorns...
Bless you Ron- thank all of yall, dang this too dang funny
When Utah beat TCU the lead went from 0.0579 points to 0.0204 points. Stanford is significantly better than SDSU, yet Utah only lost .0026 points to USC last week. If Utah gets the same jump from BYU as they got from TCU they will be ahead of USC by 0.0145 points next week.
This begs the question... If Utah beats BYU will they jump USC? Should they? Would USC jump Utah the next week with a win over UCLA while Utah is off?
This much I know ... at least Utah can beat Oregon State.
L.S.U. should be rated either 11th or 12th, possibly ahead of Missouri. But, with our pass defense, Missouri's Chase Daniel might light up the skies. So, I say 12th, at least, despite having 3 losses to 3 #' 1's, all ranked # 1 at one time or another). Florida will be there after the National Championship game (# 1).
Your logic is beyond ridiculous...
I honestly don't know where you come up with this stuff. ??
You know football? Judging by that last post, I wouldn't be so sure.
You have a very blessed day in your own little world, sweetheart.
;)
That's all I was sayin' .....
I also have a son who is 30 years old, and I taught him to respect his elders. He got most likely to succeed in high school.
By the way, about what I said about L.S.U. and the Troy miracle comeback, Les Miles just reiterated my thoughts about them playing uninspired after the emotionally draining Alabama loss. He also said what I had said that they were looking at Troy as a nobody. But, on the other hand, I knew Troy were co-leaders of the Sun Belt Conference, not a strong conference, but co-leaders nonetheless, certainly not the S.E.C. "The team finally came to life just in time to pull it out and realized what was happening", he said; and they were lookin' ahead to the Ole Miss game. He admitted that he didn't do a very good job of letting our Tigers knowing how dangerous Troy could be. Their best quarterback was finally back healthy and they had us on the ropes until the L.S.U. Tigers finally got inspired; and the guys were even very excited to pull this one out, especially after trailing by 28 points almost to the beginning of the 4th quarter too (About 2 minutes left in the 3rd quarter), even though it was only Troy.
I know you have good parents who taught you to respect your elders, and or, crippled old people like me. Have a very nice day, young lady. I'll just be off and on at my computer again today, I guess. Have a blessed day, young lady.
This place is a community of peers and equals...You continually try to project over folks here, over and over again...
She's been her longer, and contributed more, than you have...
We all know that you hope we have a blessed day. We all know that you hope we start reading the Bible-at least with the Book of John. Nobody is coming here to hear that or read that. To subtly tell folks they need religion just because they're not cowtowing to whatever you say and however you say it, or bowing down to your superior knowledge...Well, its a bit irritating...
You make posts that include two sentences worth of actual substance, and then its about 20 worth of, "I walked to school uphill both ways, and then I played the same year Earl Campbell came out."
Then you talk about LSU losing one more game than we actually did last year (We lost TWO games, not THREE), and say that we only had six wins this year, instead of seven...
Seriously...You need to cut out the "respect your elders", routine, and the "killing folks with kindness" when you're actually talking down to them is wearing thin as well.
If you can't treat folks here simply as fellow college football fans, and not allow your age, and your attitude to color how you talk to people, you are not going to have any credibility, nor respect here.
Speakin' about being college football fans, I've been an avid college football fan for 39 years (hum .... isn't that your age?).
Concerning Earl, I was just a junior playing the same position as he was that year (1973), and he was on the # 1 team in the nation in high school and I was on the # 5 team in the nation. I, myself, didn't compare to Earl, personally. I was just happy to be on a team that was ranked so high in the country, and starting, at that, with so many stars and everything. It was an unbelievable experience just to be out there doing my own job; and to have Sports Illustrated there watching a particular superstar on our team (not me) and college coaches from all over the country, including Texas, L.S.U., U.S.C and many others were also watching him. That was really out of this world and exciting for me. I was very thankful for that, that our coach thought so much of me that he let me start on a team where, the player behind me at my position could run backwards faster than I could run forward. I was a very fortunate guy, but I played smashmouth football, and I paid the price for playing that way too because I have arthritis all over my body now because of the way I played. I played 150% on every play, at practive and in the games.
As far as being equal, I'm certainly equal to anyone on these posts in the form of college football knowledge (The subject on these posts); and as far as being your peer, I'm just 13 years older than you. But, my football playing days has crippled me; and I can't do much more than play on my computer. I love college football. But, people should always come ahead of college football. For example: Happy Wife, Happy life. But, I still love college football; and I know alot about it too, especially, L.S.U. Nevertheless, I still feel that you and I could be friends and I am among my peers and equals on these posts. I apologize for offending you and all the others in anyway. Would you and the others forgive me? Thanks!
I just give my opinions. Like I respect everyone else's opinions. I just have my own. I respectfully respect yours and I ask you to please respectfully respect mine. Opinions are like ... you know what .... everyone has one. I just have my opinions like you do. I respect yours. There's no room for criticizing someone else just for giving their own opinions; and people (human beings), even though they could be very knowledgable, they (we) do make mistakes. Have a great day, T.E.
You entered into a community and started calling folks out as individuals...and you started extolling your knowledge. I came here and started asking you some specific questions, and the circular logic started on your part, along with the Onward Christian Soldier Routine...
You did not act as a guest, and you certainly didn't show any humility upon your appearance, but you castigate others here-and me especially-for "not making you feel welcome".
Now you're talking about a disability almost as if I should feel bad for calling a spade a spade in light of your condition.
I went and got an EKG done at 10:30CST last night...I have an appointment with a cardiologist early next week...Does that mean you can stop talking down to me or throwing things in my face?
Why don't you leave your issues at the door, and just enjoy this place and the camraderie that can be experienced amongst fans of ALL teams, and college football in general.
You're like a classic passive aggressive Don Quixote...
RELAX and just talk some football...Nobody's going to attack you if you don't attack them first...Cut some jokes, don't take yourself so seriously...
This is a great site, and the folks around here are equally great...It's pretty obvious that even an abrasive guy like myself has found a way to interact and make friends here...I'm sure you can do the same...
Just check your sense of righteous indignation at the door...We're all on equal footing here...No matter if we're in wheelchairs or posting from a Blakcberry while standing up....
I play my cards pretty close to vest for that very reason; let the posts stand or fall on their own. Personal matters oughtn't come into play.
Now, on a completely contradictory personal note...I hope that EKG/cardio deal works out ok.
GO GATORS!!
Arterial Fibrilation is what they called it...
(Just kidding, guys...B_B did nothing of the sort)
...must...show...restraint...
GO GATORS!!
...and, quite possibly the most knowlegeable, articulate and reasonable Bama fan on FB...
...true story!
GO GATORS!!
I try ;)
Trivia question
#1 What team had a winning record and beat the National Champ and fired their successful coach
#2 What team beat there arch rival in back to back years finished 8-5 and fired their coach, to find themselves at the bottom and finish 4-8 but they still have a good band
BTW It was before my time, but wasnt it a Bama player that came off of the bench and tackled a Rice player that was going to score- in Sugar Bowl ??
As far as your trivia questions are concerned, I did take a college football break. My wife is much more important than anything or anyone; and I stopped paying as much attention for a few years. She is will always be the most important thing in my life. Concerning your questions, I can only guess the answer to question # 1 might have been Auburn, but I''m not sure at all. It's a wild guess. If you gave me multiple choice trivia, it might ring a bell and I might even do whole lot better. But, at my age with my memory going, that's not for sure either. Your number # 2 question doesn't make any sense after coach, ...................
However, it was a Bama player (I'm' pretty sure) that came off the bench and tackled that guy. I remember seeing that on T.V. That had to be really embarrassing for that player (A real understatement); and I bet the Bear chewed him out too. Have a great day!
#1 Arkansas Razorbacks
#2 Texas A&M Aggies -sorry I worded it wrong went from 8-5 one year and go 4-8 the following year.
I'm not really tickled pink about there decline, because the Longhorns play both of these teams and had those teams continued with their success it would only help the Longhorns. Before the season started you better beleive that the Texas players were fired up about a rematch with the Hogs old rivals, now it doesnt look like that big of a win.
Same thing with A&M they were always a decent opponent and beat Texas the last two years, now it seems like the game wont be as meaningful as in years past.
I'm sure both of these programs will rebound, but when who knows, they both had winning teams and both ran off their coaches, I guess 8-5 aint good enough for some and heck with the level of competition in the B-12 & SEC just getting to a Bowl is an accomplishment.
That last question that I posed about the player coming off the bench will probably be answered by someone on here
Adios Tomcat
I agree with you that both programs will probably rebound sooner or later (Texas A & M and Arkansas); and I don't believe Florida will be so powerful like THEY ARE THIS YEAR ...... in the next 2 or 3 years, at least. However, if one is loyal to a program, whether up or down, I advise them to stick with them and be a true fan. L.S.U. went 2-9 and 3-8 in the early ninety's and I had season tickets. I'm not a band wagon Tiger fan; and if a person likes someone else, my advice is that it's more respectable to not be a band wagon fan. Stick with and be loyal to your team is my 2 cents worth of advice. No matter what sport it is, whether it's tittly winks (just kidding; just trying to make a point) or women's volleyball, I love all of L.S.U. sports. But, my wife and children (people, in general) come ahead of L.S.U.
As far as A & M and Arkansas are concerned, I used to not like them. But, some of the most important people that I care deeply about do like them. So, I respect their likes and dislikes a great deal; and I'm glad that you're not really tickled pink about the decline of those fine school's football progams.
To continue, Arkansas has renewed its old rivalry when they joined the S.E.C. (With L.S.U., when they play us for the Golden Boot each year) as the Southwestern Conference fell apart that had teams like Baylor, Texas, Texas Tech, S.M.U. T.C.U., Rice, Texas A & M, Arkansas, and maybe 2 or 3 other teams that I can't think of right now. In that conference, Texas and Arkansas was the Biggie every year. I remember, in 1969 (watching it on TV), Texas # 1 played Ark. # 2 and Texas won 15-14 on a two point conversion at the end of hte game. Texas could be my second favorite team; and I was pulling for them then. But, today, because of my people priorities, I would probably pull for Arkansas, however. Well anyway, Texas had a receiver named Cotton Spier (Misspelled, I'm sure) and James Street was their quarterback. Texas had to convert a 4th down pass to Cotton Spier to the 10 yard line and went for 2 at the end of the game to win the National Championship. If I remember right, that 4th down pass went from the 50 yard line all the way down to the 10 yard line where Cotton Spier caught that game saving catch.
You're right that 8-5 just won't hack it in the S.E.C or the Big 12. The average job for coach at L.S.U. is 2 - 4 years, I believe, and just not being able to beat one team, Alabama, put one of L.S.U.'s coach's job in jeapardy. This coach eventually did get fired and not beating Bear Bryant, I heard was one reason that he got the ax (the boot). His name, of course, was Charlie Mac. He coached L.S.U. for around 19 years (longer than any other coach at L.S.U. by far, I believe) after Paul Dietzel coached L.S.U. and lead them to the 1958 National Championship with Billy Cannon, our only nation championship until we won the B.C.S. in 2003 and 2007.
One last note, A & M will be back, and you can bank on L.S.U. being back close to what they were last year too, and just maybe, we will win another National Championship during my lifetime. But, my advice is to be loyal to your favorite team, whoever it may be. Have a great day.
S.U. upset then powerhouse Notre Dame 28-8 at Death Valley, I started bleeding purple and gold at the ripe old age of 14, now 38 years and counting. So, I've really been a fan of L.S.U. for 38 years now.
Nevertheless, I don't remember too much more than that 4th down pass to Cotton to the 10 yard line and ultimately scoring a T.D. and then making the 2 point conversion to win the N.C. I was really happy (An understatement, really). Geaux Tigers!!!!!!!!!!!!! ..............
I always thought that he was a very good coach (motivator, at least; sort of like Dale Brown used to be for L.S.U.'s basketball team, I guess). Dale couldn't really coach. But, he could motivate with the best of them. I thought Houston Nutt was sort of like that anyway.
But, thanks for your info. I didn't know this; and I appreciate ya tellin' me.
P.S.-Man, you better start a new post ..... You're wearing it really thin ... don't ya think? Hehehehehehehe
s joke, I just want to make it clear that he was kidding about the pictures.
Deathvalley, don't make this something it's not. You and your "whuppins" can go somewhere else.
Have a great day.
We're 7-3...Not 6-3...
Carry on with the rambling, highly nonsensical posting...Don't mind me.
P.S.-You definitely can't miss me since I look like that; and you know what I look like too. Isn't that off the chain good?
These things happen repeatedy and even though its fun to speculate really doesnt mean too much. For Example like last year Missu beat ILL and ILL beat OSU doesnt mean that Misuu would beat OSU- Why say you think that LSU would be ranked close to Missu- Texas whuped Missu bad and OK St beat Missu- unranked Baylor lost to Missu 31-28 at the very end, so who's to say about how teams matchup- what really sucks in the B-12 Missu will be the Champ of the North and probably lose to the south and be considered B-12 #2 when in reality they are really B-12 #5 or #6 a three loss team behind Texas,Texas Tech,OK st and Oklahoma
so if you think LSU is #13 compare your team to OK st or Baylor better teams IMHO- they both played Texas a better game and OK st beat them and BU shoulda, Missu will lose to either OU or Texas Tech-
Adios Tomcat
Comparing teams who havenn't faced each other is very difficult. It's like comparing Alabama vs. Mississippi St. to Florida vs. South Carolina. That's not the same comparison at all. In my opinion South Carolina is much better than Mississippi State. According to the polls, that's been the case too; and like Florida and Ole Miss, I think Oregon State woke U.S.C. up that they must be dominant; and U.S.C., for the most part has been pretty dominant since that loss to Oregon State. I had thought that loss was against Oregon, not Oregon State. But, I'm probably wrong with a brain fart.
As far as liking Baylor, stick with them like I have done (win or lose) with L.S.U. To get back to your matchups, ya know? Some teams just match up athlete for athlete better against some teams than others do. It's really crazy. But, some teams can beat some teams and can't beat the same teams that they themselves can beat, if that makes any sense. It's the matchup at certain positions, in my opinion. I still think L.S.U,, even with a 7-3 record should be ranked close to Missouri. I have confidence in L.S.U.; and I believe they're better than many people give them credit for (Even this year). We, of course, don't have the same personnel as on last year's National Championship team, and of course, no one from the 2003 National Championship team either. If L.S.U. and Missouri were in the Big 12 North together, I believe it would believe it would be Missouri, L.S.U. in a close race myself. This year, talent-wise, I believe that Missouri is a notch ahead of us. But, we will be back. You can bank on that. I think Missouri should be ranked # 11 and L.S.U. should be ranked # 12. Who knows? That could be how they (Or, at least one of them, anyway) are ranked in the final A.P., Coach's, Harris Interactive, B.C.S., etc., etc., etc. polls in the end.
Consequently, just playing a tough schedule in the S.E.C. makes a 3 loss team (in the S.E.C.) better than even an undefeated team in others where they don't play anyone. San Diego State, La. Tech and that's all they play ......... Give me a break. We play 3 or 4 easy non conference game ...... and we almost overlooked and got beaten by one them (Troy). But, we play in the powerful S.E.C. So, 3 losses have allot more punch than some of those undefeated easy conferences. Have a great day.
TT doesn't deserve a title shot unless they smash OK, and even that's pushing it
Yea you beat TX AT HOME on a last second play, you not scoring on 6 straight drives is sad, just sad.
And yes I watched the whole game, you still haven't addressed how TT playing shitty teams and winning close games (all at home) makes them deserve a title shot.
You only definitvely beat KS and OK st good job...
Hell anyone (except Mich) could play teams like Nevada Southern Meth and East Washington Mass and win all season.
and whoever it was that was arguing that TX shouldn't go..... if TT barely beat TX at home what's that say about TT????
Let TT go to the NC game so they can get smashed
UF plays ONE weak no name team (the citadel) and outscores people 299-63 after one fluke loss to Miss. Oh and the peole UF has beaten to put up that 299-63 run include LSU, GA, SC, ARK, Vandy, UK (who's 6-5 suprisingly)
All of those teams are still better than playing Southern Meth or Eastern Washington
When TT is putting up numbers like UF against the kind of oppents UF is playing THEN they can go to the NC game until then they should sit back and watch.
now tyler you can go on your all caps rant, calling me names, and still failing to address any point I made in a civilized manner as you continue you're toddler's tempertantrum.