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Re: Big Televen Fantasy Expansion

Go Blue Jeff — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:42:10 -0000

Personally, I'd get rid of OSU... Maybe that's the snake oil taking effect...lol...

No, but really... I'd take just about anybody that's decent. Why does it have to be a school that brings something different?? I say, as long as they are a reputable institution, academically as well as athletically....bring em on... Haven't heard anybody mention them, so I will....

Louisville would suit me just fine... Great basketball. Good football. Pitino within our conference adds another snake oil salesman to the fold...lmao...

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Porcine — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:22:27 -0000

He used a lot of geographical divisions, yet had spread all over the place.

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Josh — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:06:59 -0000

Actually, I liked your post and don't see where a geography lesson would be necessary. Given your two options on the ACC lineup I think I prefer the first one on your original post. Yes, there would be many changes to get to this alignment but not nearly as bad as it could be if the Big Televen raided the Big 12.

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aVoiceInSC — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:44:56 -0000

Sorry for the delay in replying.

I think we can safely say that you are in the same group with everyone else here wishing away the summer. September 3rd can't get here fast enough. Coincidentally I have an obligation and that I don't care for at all that ends on August 31st, so I really can't wait for football season to get here.

I wish someone reputable did offer a Master's degree on college football. That might be the only thing that would truly inspire me to get one.

Anyway, stick out the summer. The regular season is a great time here. We also do a "pick'em" during the season for craps and laughs that is quite entertaining.

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jake — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:49:28 -0000

Very interesting thread about academics. I knew the Big10 and ACC are academically solid, and I assumed the the Pac10 is as well, but after looking at the AAU and US News rankings, the Pac10 evidently exaggerates its academic rep.

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Josh — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:56:10 -0000

Although I can't find the original post pertaining to Pitt, here is a more recent post that states that Pitt soes qualify, as you mentioned before. Another interesting post IMO...This is also from a thread on SI.com that approached this same subject on expansion.

I just wanted to comment on the discussion about academic quality as a factor in conference expansion.

1) It matters very, very much to the Big Ten that the next member be a member of the American Assoc. of Universities, an elite group of 70 major researh schools who can join by invitation only. The B10 and the Ivy League are the only NCAA conferences who have all members in the AAU. Notre Dame isn't in the AAU yet is one of America's 20 best schools, so the Big Ten would make an exception for them and only them. (BTW, Iowa State, Missouri, Nebraska, Pittsburgh, Rutgers and Syracuse are AAU members. Memphis and West Virginia are not, and do not appear likely to join anytime soon.)

2) The Pac-10's emphasis on academics is slightly exaggerated. Most of its schools are rock-solid, but a few of them have fairly open admissions, which isn't a sign of a truly elite group. I'm not suggesting that the Pac 10 would invite anyone just for athletics, but it may be less strict in inviting new members than the Big Ten or the ACC, which leads to my third point.

3) Contrary to what popular opinion seems to be, the ACC can stand toe-to-toe with anyone when it comes to academics. You can bet your bottom dollar that every member, especially Duke, UNC, Wake, and UVa, would have had no part with BC, VT, or Miami if they didn't feel the new schools would enhance the ACC's academic reputation. Each ACC school is a US News Tier 1 university; among FBS conferences, only the Big Ten can claim the same.

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Josh — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:03:09 -0000

I say no to the MAC although I would imagine you said that tongue-in-cheek. They are our version of the Sun Belt Conference. We can get them as relatively easy home games without returning the home-and-home favor, although Indiana and Minnesota did decide to travel to the MAC recently. I'm also not at all enthused with the idea of Iowa State. Yes, they are in Big 10 territory and have a natural rival in the conference but they really bring no excitement or any other benefits to us. Missouri would be an awesome catch but a complete longshot.

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Josh — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:34:33 -0000

I suppose I could live with this setup. The South Division seems a bit more competitive but if Dantonio keeps the Spartans on track and UW and Iowa get themselves back in the right direction that division could be very competitive also.

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Josh — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:25:46 -0000

As I stated in another blog, possibly the Big 10 income per school is greater than what the Big 12 can offer. With their new TV network that has to be generating some income now as well. Hey Joe, what do you think of the idea of joining the SEC as mentioned above?

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Josh — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:21:42 -0000

I should've qualified this post to begin with. Sorry. These were taken from a similar thread that was ran on SI.com. I can't vouch for how true it may be but thought it was an interesting post and relative to this discussion. There was a good point made about Pitt (again, how true?) joing the Big 10 but I can't seem to find that one to post it here.

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Josh — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:10:45 -0000

Hey Joe, I appreciate the welcome. I've added the avatar per your request and that should give you some insight into my affiliation. Let me say that although I do follow the Buckeyes I love the Big 10 conference and college football in general. I hate to wish away the summer but September can never get here soon enough for me. I follow all of the conferences as if I was studying for a Masters Degree <g>.

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aVoiceInSC — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:59:07 -0000

That was for WEA. I posted a request and then realized that I don't need it. Sorry for any confusion.

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aVoiceInSC — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:49:38 -0000

Let me be the first to welcome you to fanblogs. Stick around. The season gets very interesting here.

Could I interest you in adding an avatar, and perhaps (gasp!) revealing your affiliation? You don't have to, but it certainly makes your posts easier to locate.

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Porcine — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:49:09 -0000

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aVoiceInSC — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:47:57 -0000

I don't know anything about whether or not that's true, but it certainly is an intriguing sentiment. We, in the ACC, have 4 so I think we're all covered there.

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aVoiceInSC — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:44:50 -0000

Thanks. I appreciate it.

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aVoiceInSC — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:43:55 -0000

[Edit]

Oops. Sorry about that. I don't need it anymore.

As you were.

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aVoiceInSC — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:40:08 -0000

Source those please. It's tough to back up claims without a source. Someone is bound to attack this. You might as well make a preemptive strike and cut that off at the pass.

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Josh — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:57:28 -0000

And here's a copy of the second quote. Stayed tuned for Pitt...

What seems to be ignored by the majority of posters and surely the authors is that their are more requirements than playing football to join a conference. The Pac 10 requires participation in at least 11 different NCAA sports and a minimum GPA for admittance. Neither Utah nor BSU meet either of these requirements. In fact, much of the Big 12 and SEC would not be eligible either. It took years for UofA and ASU to raise their programs for admittance to the then PAC 8

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Josh — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:55:36 -0000

Hey Jake, It sure took me a while but I found the two posts pertaining to the BYU details you inquited about. Here is a copy and paste of the first one. I have a second one coming. Still looking for the details on the Pitt quote though.

The Pac-10 would not take BYU over Utah. First of all, BYU doesn't play any kind of athletics on Sunday. While this is not a big deal with football, it could be an issue with basketball and other sports. When the MWC was formed, one of the directives was to help support BYU in this policy. I doubt that the Pac-10 would be so accommodating. BYU has also be criticized for not being a strong 'research' university, such as Utah. There have also been issues with bringing in a private religous college, with extreme conservative values, into the more liberal Pac-10 group. I am not saying that I agree with all of these, but they are issues. Ideally, I would like to see both Utah and BYU invited to the Pac-10, but I don't think that Boise State would have a prayer getting into the Pac-10 simply on academics and their other sports

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jake — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:50:55 -0000

I read a recent article about how PSU dominates even the Pitt market in recruiting. The fans are calling for the renewed Pitt-PSU rivalry, so I doubt JoePa cares all that much.

What were the details of the BYU news you read?

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Josh — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:14:58 -0000

"I believe" was stated in respect to another post I have read concerning that matter. I think it had to do with being a research institutionn but I will try and find that post and copy it into here. As for what you are saying in their behalf, it appears that they would be eligible which is great. I don't believe that the Big 10 would be interested in them and I really don't know that Paterno would be interested in them either. Given the fact that we now how four ocg each season he hasn't made much of an attempt to get that rivalry back on track. Besides, he has the advantage of the Big 10 conference all to himself when recruiting PA. On a side note, another interesting post I read had BYU not qualifying for the PAC 10 either. All interesting info.........

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jake — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:09:51 -0000

Out of curiosity, in what way(s) do you believe Pitt does not qualify academically for Big 10 acceptance?

According to the US News rankings of Top National Universities, Pitt is ranked at #58 of Tier 1 schools. In terms of ranking, Pitt trails behind only Michigan, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Illinois, Penn State, and Ohio State; yet, ranks above Minnesota, Purdue, Indiana, Michigan State, and Iowa. Academically, Pitt seems like a perfect fit (imo).

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Josh — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:06:55 -0000

Great post. I never knew about their formula and was disappointed when Florida and Auburn stopped playing each year. Now I know the rest of the story.

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Josh — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:01:31 -0000

Count me in!