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Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Ben Prather — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:59:51 -0000

The MWC is using a logo this year celebrating its tenth anniversary, with a very prominent 10. Could this be a Freudian slip of back room deals? Adding the 10th team in the tenth year?

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Ben Prather — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:22:26 -0000

I am replying to your post below here, as we are getting close to the edge.

The ACC is better than the MWC now. No argument there. Adding Fresno State and Boise State would narrow the gap to negligible proportions. The current trends would favor the rising and expanded MWC to pass the sinking ACC.

The teams in the ACC are 4-10 in BCS Bowls. The expanded MWC would be 2-0. Maybe if the ACC was not forced to send teams eligible only because they are the ACC champion to the BCS they would fair better.

The expanded MWC won its two bowls, one very convincingly. If they went every year they might win 2 of the remaining 12 they would need to catch up with the ACC. To catch up with teams now in the Big East they would need to win 1 out of 3.

The six time teams now in the ACC have played in the title game have involved 3 teams, Miami, FSU and VT. Two of those teams have all but become relics of the past. They are 1-3 in those games in which they played a team not now in the ACC. Give the expanded MWC champion 4 shots and they might even get the upset once. On this basis the expanded MWC compares better with the current alignment of the Big East, with no championship appearances.

That is unless you count 1984.

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Porcine — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:49:57 -0000

The ACC is seen as an uderachieving conferenceof late, but yet they are still considered better than the MWC. SIx times teams now in the ACC have played in the BCS title game, They MWC would not match that, a lot of it because of the system. They can run with the weak BCS conferences, but they majority of the time they are going to lose that race.

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Ben Prather — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:54:28 -0000

Fifth is about as high as the ACC or Big East can hope to become, unless the Big 10 continues its down turn. I am not saying the expanded MWC would be as strong as the top BCS conferences, but that they could run with the bottom BCS conferences.

This is better than the perpetual seventh you say they are stuck with, even with expansion.

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Porcine — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:28:04 -0000

Most of they time they will finish there even with the additions. Fifth is about as high as they would get.

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Ben Prather — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:52:38 -0000

Right now their is a wide gap between the Big East/ACC and C-USA/WAC. The MWC fits in the middle of that large gap.

With a defection of Boise State and Fresno State the MWC would move to the top of that gap. Nevada would seal the deal.

BYU, Utah, TCU, Air Force, Fresno State, Boise State and Nevada have been sustaining/growing for the last ten years.

Can you really argue that Miami and Florida State are sustaining their status? What about Duke?

The Big East has passed the ACC by expanding to include a sound Louisville team. The way the Big 10 is going, the Big East may be past them before too long.

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Porcine — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:02:43 -0000

Right now they are comparable, but i don't see them sustaining the status of a power conference like the Big East and ACC can.

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Ben Prather — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:23:26 -0000

Name 5 teams from C-USA that got votes in the USA today poll?

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Porcine — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:27:40 -0000

It's too much like Conference USA., just a few bigger names.

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

1Tomcat — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:56:55 -0000

I totally agree with this guy, look at the bottom of Big East
Pitt, UConn, RU , Cinn ok you win-yea right
Some of the MWC teams like TCU for example can pull off a upset now & then, but when looking at the bottom of the B-12 Iowa St and Baylor would be powerhouses looking for a BCS win.
A team like Baylor goes 3-9 or 5-7 in the B-12 if they were in C-USA or WAC they would probably be champions of their conference.
One year TCU goes 11-1 every body is making a big deal about it. The only loss that year was to SMU a losing C-USA team that Baylor beat.
Ok Ok Wyoming beat UVA great I like MWC but lets not get too carried away.
I saw the TCU vs BU games the last two years and TCU won, I also saw the TCU vs UT game and I have attended the UT vs BU the last 3 years. Even though BU lost the game 31-10 it was a closer game than the TCU vs UT game. Two interceptions close to the end killed it for the Bears who held their own for 3.5 quarters against a ranked opponent. Had TCU been selected to the B-12 they would not have any 11 win seasons like the MWC. I hope they beat OU and I'll be pullin for them.
JMHO - no offense or disrespect I like MWC football and C-USA
Take the Baylor schedule and study it
They play 11 games against teams from BCS conferences including
Wake Forest, UConn, Oklahoma,Texas,Texas A&M,Texas Tech,Ok State
I'm not sure about the North teams this year but Missu,Kansas,Colo, Nebraska aint no UNLV, Wyoming,Air Force etc etc In other words the #12 B-12 team BU in another conference would be bowl bound every year. I cant really speak about Duke, but I've seen BU beat CU,KU,KSU,Ok St,A&M and IA St . So OK they are at the bottom of the B-12, look at who they are facing. Much like a Vandy in the SEC

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Ben Prather — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:02:03 -0000

BYU vs Clemson
UNLV vs Duke

Top and bottom look close, I like the MWC odds.

With Boise and Fresno State added the MWC would have as many teams in the top 25, 30 and 35 as the Big East and ACC in the preseason poll.

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Bevo_Boiler — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:37:24 -0000

Did somebody say Coondawg?

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Kevin @ Fanblogs — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:30:10 -0000

It's hard to argue with the insane.

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

1Tomcat — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:17:48 -0000

Ya Ben ya never know, but The Horns played them last year and won the game in the second half,they came out after halftime p-ssed off. I beleive the Horns were #4 in the B-12 last year behind OU,Missu, and KU. They whuped a purty good AZ St team, so you never know.
Im ready for some more big upsets and I like to pull for underdogs. First two games I'll watch will be
SMU at Rice If Rice could just stop somebody they'd be alright plenty of offense, Balliff has always been known as a defensive guy and being JJones first game with the Ponys has the folks in big D excited, ought to be a good matchup against comparable opponents-I'm pulling for the Owls.
Wake @ Baylor Wake is ranked in every catagory and BU has a new coach, Wake should be heavily favored in this game ,but coach Briles knows how to get 100% out of his players, they have working on this game all spring & summer- I'll be pullin for the Bears in a huge upset

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Ben Prather — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:23:29 -0000

The Frogs have their hands full with Oklahoma. They have a significantly better chance than, say, Appalachian State had against Michigan last year.

The Frogs, along with Utah and BYU are the top of the MWC. These teams are about to a level of a #4 or #5 Big 12 team.

If Texas A&M or Colorado can beat Oklahoma, TCU can too.

They will be Bowling this year and should have 9+ wins.

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

1Tomcat — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:12:55 -0000

I dunno Ben sounds like it would definetly add some strength to a purty good conference, But what if Utah And BYU bail to the Pac-12, then the conference would be more comparable to C-USA.
I'll be pulling for one MWC team this fall TCU vs OU
They lost alot to graduation and early in the season at OU will be tough. They have beaten TTech & OU in the past and Patterson always has a strong D. What do you think about the Frogs this year?

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Ben Prather — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:53:56 -0000

How is the current MWC plus Fresno State, Boise State and Nevada not comparable to the ACC and Big East?

Number of top 25 teams the last 5 years?
BCS bowl performance?
Percentage of conference bowl eligible per year?

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Porcine — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:26:28 -0000

Toilet cleaner bowl
Indigo bowl

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

cougarfan — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:09:33 -0000

Ok, well why don't you look at the Big East's and ACC's record against non-conference BCS teams for the past few years, and then the winning percentage of those OOC opponents, and compare those numbers to the MWC http://www.sportslinknetwor...
For the past four years the MWC has matched both those conferences. Add Fresno St and Boise St, and what do you get? a conference that is stronger top to bottom than both ACC and Big East. Do you have any counter-evidence, because I'd love to see it!

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Porcine — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:35:06 -0000

Babe Bunyan Bowl.

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Porcine — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:28:20 -0000

I disagree with that last sentence.

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

GoCougs! — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:08:21 -0000

I'm a BYU fan but I think smurf turf was such a good idea!! Keep the turf, any marketer would realize what a clever idea it is (gives your team an identity), so join the MWC along with a combination of Fresno St/ San Jose St and Houston/SMU. Add a conference championship game and we should be able to get into plenty of BCS games (of course then we'd be stronger top to bottom than both ACC and Big East, so heck why not an auto-bid).

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

bronco08 — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:28:53 -0000

The name Boise State is just fine, mere opinion. "Boise State University Broncos" or "University of Boise Broncos".

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

bevo — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:04:36 -0000

This article highlights everything wrong with the bowl system. A few years ago, Clemson went to the Boise Bowl because school officials agreed to buy a lot of tickets. How is this act nothing more than a shakedown? Get a RICO suit going.

If the Mountain West Conference agrees to Boise State's demand, then will the Y and the U start a bowl game to hold the PAC 10 hostage?

Boise State must change the name of the school. The University of Boise sounds better than State, which suggests an Ag school. People, this school was a JuCo 50 years ago. Give it a name befitting its regional scope.

Re: Boise State moving to the Mountain West?

Wayne (Tenn) — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:29:20 -0000

I really don't give a $&^% about the MWC unless there are "releases" of some of their "baggage" also. Should be a realignment of the strength and committed schools from both conferences, with the remaining in a new "mid-major". The Pac-10 doesn't give sh*t about BYU or Utah, get over it. Talk to someone from Stanford or Cal. BSU, Utah have shown they can get it done, esp. BSU on a consistent basis. I don't think BSU should join the current MWC at this point, no real benefit.