DISQUS

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

If he really called Saban, I'm with Clemson Joe, he needs to go.....

Porcine · 1 year ago

It's going to be a long year for Tommy.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

That's what I'm hoping for.

blackdawg · 1 year ago

I understand that Tommy promised Harper (a true freshman) if he came to Clemson that he would carry the ball on the first play of the opening game. He fumbled on the play which resulted in an Alabama field goal. The Clemson fan sitting beside me told me the Bowden promise. If he knew I imagine Nick Saban knew and therefore the Alabama Defense knew. I think that's pretty stupid. I don't like talking too much about some other teams' coach, we've had our failures (Ray Goff), but you just need to get rid of him. Alabama got thier money guys together bought out Shula and hired Saban and got some of what they payed for Saturday night in the dome on national T.V.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

I agree. He also made that same promise to Davis and Spiller. Harper was in the game the play before (on a pass play) trying to "fake out" Alabama. After that though, isn't it painfully obvious that the next play will be a hand off to the freshman?

We'll see how the rest of the season goes. If it holds true to form changes will need to be made. If they aren't made, then the AD will probably get to answer for it with his job. There are a lot of very angry Clemson fans/alums/boosters right now.

Alison · 1 year ago

Well this si what I think... ACC= A CUPCAKE CONFERENCE

Rich · 1 year ago

What's with the pansies we have coaching in the ACC? Little Bowden is crying to the guy that whooped him and Beamer is giving in to the masses by pulling the shirt off Taylor. At least this gives Maryland a fighting chance, Fridge is eager to chew on the competition, LOL

shiguy · 1 year ago

The Fridge doesn't chew.....just inhales.........working those jaw muscles would give him a workout....

Regan · 1 year ago

One of the reasons Davis and Spiller weren't used as much in some of those games (including Alabama) was simply that Clemson's game plan had to change because they fell behind so quickly so early.

When this happens, you don't run the ball as much.

Also, these stats don't represent Spiller's increased use in the slot, etc.

HOWEVER - all in all, yeah. You've got Davis and Spiller. Use them....

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

I think CU goes away from the run too quickly. Even when you get behind, you have to find a way to take your strengths and use them effectively. You're going to get behind in games, but I think the numbers speak for themselves in that going to some other gameplan is not working for the Tigers. (If plan "B" was that much better, it would be plan "A", right??)

We've all seen plenty of games where a "running team" falls behind early, pounds the ball, and wins against a battered defense.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Excellent point. In the Alabama game, it seems like we got away from the game plan and went into "emergency catch up mode" around the end of the 1st quarter. Sticking to the game plan until it really is time to panic is a great idea, especially when the game plan is giving the ball to 2 future NFL running backs.

Kodi4Heisman · 1 year ago

If your stats are correct, then both backs had double digit carries against BC..

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

Hey, you're correct. I still think they are under-utilized and that leads to the losses.

BigWarEagle · 1 year ago

It's official: The best job in college football is Clemson!
You get millions a year, a $4 million buyout and you only have to win 8 games a year.
....and you never get fired!

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

That's the truth.

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

And you're told how to play by your competition...

eleven man front · 1 year ago

that isn't very different from the auburn job!

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Interesting....
http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/index.s...

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

Pick a switch, Tommy!

BamaBill · 1 year ago

This is not as crazy as it seems. Coach Bryant used to send film to coaches he trusted and was not playing and would ask them to scout his team. He said sometimes as the Head Coach you can be too close to the situation to make a unbiased acessment. I think it probably is a good thing. I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't still go on in certain coaching circles under the radar.

brian · 1 year ago

he has to go. how many more seasons do clemson fans have to put up with this style of football. its a joke. i will always wear orange no matter what but its really tough to do when i look on the side lines and see tommy bowden.

RazzMaTazz · 1 year ago

In the (non-cupcake) games where Davis and Spiller had a low number of carries this year and last year, the opponents' D-lines owned the line of scrimmage and stopped the running game. As you could see in the Alabama game (and you may recall from games like the BC game) Clemson's superstar running backs were running into brick walls because Clemson's O-line was getting beaten. As a result, Clemson's OC went to the air, including throwing to Spiller. Clemson should have tried to exploit Alabama's inexperienced linebackers with short underneath passes (including passes to Davis and Spiller). That's the only way that Davis or Spiller were going to get to the other side of Bama's line.

Man, Alabama's nose tackle Cody is so big, his gravitational pull was sucking in Clemson's RBs. He's so big, he's got other big linemen orbiting him.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

He probably should have called Jeff to figure out how to secure a half mill severance package...

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

He called Saban for help? He needs to get fired asap.

Clemson should make a run for Spurrier.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Why, so we can watch the transition to Jr?

I would love a new coach though. Any other recommendations?

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Muschamp, usually two years at Texas as DC and then is hired as HC somewhere, he must be good, Texas ranks him right under God....

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

1. Lure away Norm Chow from UCLA
2. Greg Schiano from Rutgers
3. Steve Spurrier, best college coach out there
4. Jim Leavitt from USF (would be my choice for Clemson)
5. Rich Brooks from Kentuck
6. Brian Kelley of Cincy

RazzMaTazz · 1 year ago

A few months ago, Clemson gave Bowden a contract extension with a $3.5M buyout. Clemson will not fire Bowden for several years, if ever. But if they did, Jim Grobe would also be a good hire... or Bill Cowher if there were some way. Clemson should have hired Spurrier before he went to SoCar or Butch Davis before he went to UNC.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

If it comes down to Terry Don losing his job, which it might, then Clemson will pay it. In the grand scheme of things, $3.5M isn't that much to Clemson. If enough boosters threaten to pull their money the school will pull the trigger. At this point, everything is speculative and premature, but if this season goes the way that it looks like it will, and Clemson ends up being 8-5, this will become a reality. I only wish this had happened last year so we could've gone after Rich Rodriguez. After all, his wife has said that she would love to live in Clemson again. Oh well.

Big B · 1 year ago

A few more games like last Saturday, and Rich Rodriguez might be on the market again.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Oh, I SO disagree, Razz... Really, truly, madly, deeply, disagree...

RazzMaTazz · 1 year ago

Which part? Bowden's seat temperature or the list of replacements?

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Spurrier is at the end of his career. He's handing the keys over to his son already. It's the same thing that Lou Holtz did at South Carolina. Personally I don't want Schiano. He's a good coach, but I don't think he's a good fit. Norm Chow would be interesting. Personally I think Jim Leavitt would be great, and that's the best that I've heard so far. Brian Kelly is a close second. Jerry Moore seems to be a viable option as well.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

Going by that list, PM, I 'd say the only viable candidates there are Schiano & Kelley...

Chow has a high profile job in LA and doesn't sport the charisma for a head coaching job, IMO...

Spurrier will be at SoCar until he retires or is run off by a fickle fan base...

Leavitt would not be too smart to leave such a fertile recruiting base that he is just starting to gain credibility in and challenge the other "Big" schools in FL...

Brooks has already structured an exit plan for retiring and named his future replacement in Phillips...

However, I'll add a few names to the pile:

Charlie Strong (DC @ Florida): This guys has gotten a bunch of looks for HC jobs over the last few years (I would hate to see him go though)...

Jimbo Fisher - I know he's seemingly locked in by his buyout but somebody will pay it if they want him bad enough...

Chris Peterson - Look what he's done at Boise to maintain the level of play that rose under Hawkins...

Skip Holtz - If ECU has a 1-2 loss season, Granny Jr. will be on a LOT of school's candidate list...

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

Charlie Strong? That's a joke right? What since 2006 has Charlie Strong shown that would make him qualified for a HC position?

Leavitt and USF cannot compete with Florida, FSU and Miami in recruiting. Last year was an odd year with all the major schools losing games to subpar teams. I doubt USF will have better than a 3 loss season in a weak Big East Conference. He would get outstanding recruits at Clemson vs USF.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

Well, Marko...

Apparently you're uninformed on Strong given that he's largely ben considered one of the top candidates for a HC position for some time now...

Schools that have requested or contacted Strong for interviews just this past season include Arkansas, GT, & Ole Miss and include Minnesota, Cincy, Vandy, Cal-Berkley, Louisville (both before they hired Petrino and after Petrino left) among other D-1 directional schools and lower divisional ones as well in prior seasons...

And what since 2006 has he shown?

Only that he could take a defense returning only TWO starters and simply ONE senior and coach it into leading the SEC in rushing defense last season...

While at first glance against an admittedly highly inferior opponent in Week One of 2008 season, appears to have vastly improved and developed the weakest part of his 2007 defense; the secondary...

Among his general credentials...

Over 25 years coaching experience...

Has coached under Meyer, Holtz and Spurrier winning championships with nationally ranked teams and developing NFL first rounders and eventual all-pros...

Considered one of the top 25 recruiters in the nation with a developed reputation in Florida among many top prep programs...

His rock solid character, love of family, strong community involvement anchor his personal life and his love of academics (Two master's degrees and a Specialist degree) provides an example to his players that is perhaps unmatched by ANY coach in the nation whether the HC or GA...

So now that I've put out there why he's qualified IMO...

Why would you say he's not???

As far as Leavitt is concerned...

Yes, in the immediacy of today Clemson would provide an attractive ability to jump up in recruiting rankings...

However...

Leavitt possibly has the ability to stick it out at USF and develop them into an "FSU- Lite" if he stays for the long haul...

Remember that FSU didn't really start dominating recruiting until nearly ten years into Bobby's tenure...

If Leavitt remains there (which I think he will until retirement, JMHO), he'll be able to slowly chip away and continue to raise his program's profile in state and get a little better each year in the recruiting end...

Which he has done over the last ten years a little at a time...

So again...

Yes, in the immediate future he could have better recruiting at Clemson but in the long haul Leavitt can easily attain a top 15 class within a few years if he can maintain the forward momentum he has built in Tampa...

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

I live in Tampa and my wife's family is 100% Gators.... Even they agree that Strong has to be replaced. His defensive play calling is crap.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

LMAO...

So that's your argument???

Because your in-laws think his play calling is crap???

Good god...

Discussion over...

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

No, actually my arguements are:

-Auburn beating you at home on a last minute drive
-Georgia piling up 41 points on your "AWESOME" defense
-Chad Henne, Mario Manningham and Adrian Arrington using your secondary like a Elliot Spitzer's women.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

All of the above were results of inexperience, bub...

Not playcalling...

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

Pahlease.........

Derrick Harvey, Major Wright, Dustin Doe, Spikes...

You had a capable defense to get you back into the SEC championship game and the BCS championship. Strong never adapted his play calling. The "bend but dont break" scheme NEVER works.

I'm not questioning his character, just his play calling.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

So lets see here...

You're pointing too one returning starter, a kid that was playing prep ball at that time the year before and two other cats that were redshirts and mostly played in mop up duty the season before as a "capable" defense...

Throw in another true freshman at one corner and a redshirt sophmore that mostly saw time on Special Teams in 2006 along with factoring in the decimation of an already thin DL by injuries...

Any Gator fan that expected a return trip to the SEC CG a given in 2007 is a seriously delusional fan and blinded by their inability to assess their favorite team objectively...

Being the realist that I am I pointed out before the 2007 season even began right here at Fanblogs that UF would be a 3-4 loss team at best and had no business in the top ten all season long BECAUSE of their inexperienced defense...

And remind me again how that prediction turned out???

I would suggest not taking betting advice from your "Orange and Blue" blue koolaid drinking in laws if you're a gambling man...

FYI - Strong actually has been lauded for his aggressive attacking defensive schemes...

Not a "Bend but don't break" mentality...

TampaGator · 1 year ago

Gatorhip:

I'm afraid he's right: "...Derrick Harvey, Major Wright, Dustin Doe, Spikes... " would make for very solid defensive foundation...

...in the BIG 10!

(You gotta' take into account the perspective where the comment's coming from; Marko's just trying to play up their Bowl win...never mind the NC aspirations going into season, and NFL talent on Michigan...).

I jest, of course-- 100% in agreement with your analysis here re. Strong.


GO GATORS!!

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

Playing it up? Michigan played 1 snap that year healthy before the Capital One Bowl. I told everyone that the Gators are going to get pushed around, it wasnt a surprise to me. On the flip side, you are playing their poor performance down. Its a stupid argument, we can go back and forth on this all day.

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

How about we call a truce until this season progresses and find out if Strong can adapt now? He's had 2-3 years with this defense and there shouldnt be too many excuses for not performing.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

No need to call a truce...

You've just again showed that you nothing of Charlie Strong...

Strong has been a fixture at Florida off and on for over 20 years...

His latest stint began again in 2003 when he was hired by Zook to improve the defense as the DC and bolster recruiting (again a known "Strong" point for Charlie)...

After which he was designated as the Interim HC for the Peach Bowl loss after Zook was canned and had to deal with a supporting staff that decidedly didn't want to be there as the Gators prepared for that game as Zook's staffers that were heading to Illinois with him all wore Illini shirts in the practices leading up to that game purposely instigating a lowering of team morale...

Then took the defensive talent (much of which he directly recruited) and further developed it into the championship quality that we saw in 2006...

Then last season, Charlie took a decidely inexperienced defense and STILL led the league in rushing defense despite the reasons I outlined above...

IMO sounds like there isn't a need to wait and see what Strong can do...

The "wait and see" is more in when will prominent white boosters see past the race issue and give Strong his chance that is long overdue...

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

All i hear is Blah blah blah and watch as Strong's defense gets 40+ points put up against it in big games.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

Ok...

So let me get this straight...

You're saying that Strong is NOT qualified for a HC position because:

A) Your In-Laws don't like his play calling...

B) The UF defense gave up 40+ points twice last season...

IS that right?

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

Seriously, though...

You have more of a reason than that, right???

Big B · 1 year ago

Actually, he gave a large number of reasons. My quick read identified the following points:

(1) Charlie Strong's defense has had poor performances and nothing to show since 2006 (I guess that means one year, 2007, or did the Gators need a few more pic6's against Hawaii to avoid a poor performance in game one this year?)

(2) play calling is, in his opinion, crap. In the absence of his resume, his credentials, or some example of play calls that were crap to demonstrate the value of this opinion, it is hard to put a value on such an argument. I guess I would call it an opinion from an unknown quantity.

(3) his inlaws. Interestingly, the way he phrases it , "EVEN" his inlaws know [Charlie Strong] needs to be replaced, implies that they are anything but knowledgeable about football. In addition to limiting the value of the argument by its own terms, it also succeeds in making him candidate for "condescending son in law of the year." Since his opinion is that his inlaws know very little about football, then why should this be an argument?

(4) A last minute scoring drive given up to Auburn. The horror. I don't think I have ever seen a good team lose a game. Presumably it would have been better if UF had lost in a blowout, rather than narrowly losing a close game.

(5) UGA scored 41 points. ( Sorry, I havent been able to say that often, but it feels good. I have to give him that one)

(6) The Michigan game

(7) bend don't break philosphy (is that not just a recasting of the opinion that there was poor play calling?)

(8) poor results occured despite a wealth of named, talented players

(9) poor performance in big games (restates UGA and the bowl game, each of which are restatements of the "performance since 2006" argument)

In sum, he has three points, ranked in order of value:

inlaws
2007 was not a great season
opinion of unknown blogger

I think he wins by a nose on the basis of his willingness to insult the inlaws.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

LMAO!

TampaGator · 1 year ago

Leavitt has had MANY offers to leave USF. He'd be long gone if he was interested in the short sale. He's not just developing a fb program there; he's building a legend. He ain't goin anywhere.

GO GATORS!!

Pete Holiday · 1 year ago

I think you have your cause and effect backwards here, Kevin.

Giving the ball to these two guys only makes sense if they can make it past the line of scrimmage. They're not magic. Handing them the ball more times for TFLs isn't going to win you any ballgames.

At least in the Alabama game, they lost because their lines got dominated on both sides of the ball. Calling more run plays would not have made that any better. In fact, it'd have just made it worse. I suspect that was probably the case in the other games you point out as well.

RazzMaTazz · 1 year ago

Exactly.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

While K-Hue is specifically looking at carries and I agree with both of your points at places on the debate...

Remember there is another way to get the ball into the hands of either...

I think the focus MUST be on touches per game for these playmakers...

Getting both on the field at the same time with one lining up on the perimeter would have opened up ALOT for Clemson last weekend...

JMHO...

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Now there is a name I haven't seen in a while...

"BC" · 1 year ago

see i dont see this as that big of a deal.
no coach will have a gameplan for clemson that is as effective as Saban's was.
i think its pretty smart.

now i dont think Bowden that good of a coach, but i think Clemson can still easily win the ACC if they get it together.
Alabama is a good team. right now they look like a top 3 team in the SEC. which is damn good.

CJ Spiller and James Davis is still the best HB duo in the U.S.

If you fire Bowden, unless you get a first-class, five-star coach, you're gonna have a significant drop-off. Bowden made your team relevant. nobody else could get that talent to come to Clemson.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

no coach will have a gameplan for clemson that is as effective as Saban's was...

Why?

Does Saban have a patent and copyright on his gameplan for Clemson???

Or do you just think no other coach could actually watch the game film and mimic the Tide's plan vs. the Tigers?

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

GH:

He mentioned the word "effective". I seriously doubt that any team that Clemson is gonna play, sans South Carolina, is gonna be able to have the team speed to shut down those running lanes the way that Bama did. I got your point - and you are correct. Once a team shows that they cannot counter something - then other coaching staffs are going to try and ride that until you prove otherwise. Fact is: that same game plan may absolutely backfire, unless the overall team speed of that defense, can effectively execute that game plan the same way that Alabama did. Remember, Spiller and Davis only need a blink of the eye to be long gone. They did not get that blink against Bama. And, they may not get it against South Carolina either. But, I think they'll do fine in the ACC.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

Touche, TT...

However...

I'd throw FSU in there as comparable in team speed (W over Bama last season)...

Noles are down but it's because of inconsistency on offense...

Wake will match up nicely, but that game will more than likely become a shootout/last possession ball game...

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

BTW...

Nice to see you back around...

RazzMaTazz · 1 year ago

I'm partly with you. But I don't think it was Alabama's speed that buried Clemson as much as it was the brute force dominance of their lines.

Alabama's D-line clogged up the running lanes and got pressure with only the front four. That allowed Bama's linebackers to fall back deeper into coverage since they didn't have to blitz or even respect the run.

And the Tide's O-line blew open huge holes and provided great pass protection.

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

RazzMaTazz:

Yes, brute force was also a major factor. Clearly the Bama D-Line was more physically strong. But, keep in mind - they shut that passing attack down also. They had at least two guys in the QB's face on just about every single pass play. That was the speed part. There are tons of very strong people on those lines in college football - but getting to "your spot" on time is what it is all about. Bama was able to use both speed and power to completely dominate Clemson's offense - they had no chance. I know how this kinda defense works. I watch it every single Saturday

"BC" · 1 year ago

yeah. thats EXACTLY the point of my post.

i dont think that another coach in football could watch the Alabama/Clemson game and copy Saban's gameplan.
no way no how.
thats absolutely impossible. and illegal, because Saban actually did get a patent on his game plan.
i dont think any coach in america has TiVo.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

LMAO...

Don't forget that Bobby Bowden has figured out the "interwebs" and all that "e-bay stuff"...

Wardboy3 · 1 year ago

IMO...I think they should have gotten more carries. I was shocked to see they had 8 total combined carries. Put them both in the game do some drop-offs, screens, passes into the flat, but I also think with Bama d-line coming so hard you need to throw in some mis-direction to help slow them down.

Mike · 1 year ago

Keep him forever......GO COCKS!!!!!

RazzMaTazz · 1 year ago

Bowden: Hi Nick? This is Tommy. Tommy Bowden, you know the guy who you humiliated on Saturday with your infinitely superior coaching? I was wondering if you could help me out and tell me what I'm doing wrong.

Saban: Well Tommy, I'm not sure why you would ask me for advice since we're competitors. Maybe you can do that with your daddy, but it's the job of Mark Richt, Frank Beamer and I to beat you, not to help you beat us. But I'll give you a hint just this once. I simply went to FanBlogs and TigerNet and RF365 and read what the disgruntled Clemson fans have been saying about Clemson's perennial weakness during your tenure. And then we took advantage of it. It saved us many hours of watching film. I'd recommend either watching the game film of your losses (not your cupcake wins) or if you're incapable of recognizing your problems, perhaps you could consult with the blogosphere since the Clemson fans seem to have your MO nailed. Well, Nice talking to you. Unlike some people, I gotta go earn my salary.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Nice one.

C. Fravel · 1 year ago

Hire Brian Kelly or Marty S. Bill Cowher Will Muschamp

TampaGator · 1 year ago

This stings just to hear/read.

Coach A calls coach B for advice on how to get the boot Coach B buried in Coach A's ass, out of Coach A's ass....

Humble and shameless...so close, yet so far.


GO GATORS!!

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

Who is Steve Spurrier gonna call? Urban Meyer I suppose.

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Bobby Johnson's phone will ring about 2 am...

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

You think he'll be done with all of the interviews and press conference's by then? Steve may have to wait until morning. Hell, a quart of Wild Turkey and a handful of Vicatin, and he should rest really easy tonight. I think the hard part is gonna be going to work tomorrow.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

P.O.I. - Bobby Johnson, Head Coach of Vanderbilt, former Clemson defensive coordinator (1993), former Clemson receiver and cornerback (1969 - 1972). Beating South Carolina is a little more special to him.

Honestly, if he keeps this up, I wouldn't mind having Coach Johnson back in Clemson orange. He's doing a lot with so little and he seems to really motivate his guys to play hard for him. #31 looked like he could've run right through a brick wall tonight. Motivation and going the extra mile is something that Clemson could really use these days.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

Exactly what I was thinking while watching that game last night...

I also like his attitude and support of the decision by Vandy Admin. to dump their Athletic Department and seriously seek true student athletes...

On that note alone, Johnson would be a huge plus for Clemson which is so highly for it's academics...

Maybe you can answer a question for me, CJ...

Was Johnson on the list in 98/99 when the search process that resulted in Bowden's hire at Clemson?

He had really brought Furman full circle at that point so I'm just curious if had received consideration...

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Not really. In 1998 Furman had a 5-6 record. In 1999 they did win the conference, but it wasn't until 2000 and 2001 that he started to get serious consideration from anyone. When Bowden went undefeated with Tulane, everyone in Clemson was so high on him, that I can't remember anyone else being seriously considered.

I really like Johnson though. It would be a bit of a gamble, but I love that strong defensive mentality.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

I dunno, Ron. There were no hugs and kisses at the end of that one--and nary a word, either...

TampaGator · 1 year ago

Hey, what was Steve Martin doing on the Vandy sidelines? I swear, it looked like he was coaching!

GO GATORS!!

Jon · 1 year ago

IMHO --

He is done. This will probably be the final nail in the coffin. He may be a really nice guy, but knowing how to motivate your players after a loss is not something you call and ask the person who kicked your ass. Bad move

Gatorboy41 · 1 year ago

IMHO, you could'nt have said it any better. Now what kind of confidence to your player have in a coach after that phone call. Now that's a true follower, not a leader.

SULLY · 1 year ago

CLEMSON- when given an opportunity to WIN they will figure out how to lose. they have been experts at this season after season in close and momentum games. They will completely crush an offense but when the game is on the line they get back in a soft zone and let whoever march right down the field and score on a game winning drive. If pressure on QB's and blitzes keep you in the game dammit it's bound to win a couple. CLEMSON HAS NOT LEARNED FROM THIS YET after numerous azz spankings. I was a die hard clemson fan but i tell you bowden makes it hard to be a fan. it's amazing how he can always figure out how to lose a game in the last minutes. HE NEEDS TO GET THE HELL OUT OF SC and HEAD SOUTH.....way south. and find a HS Florida team that needs a softy to lead them to a mediocre season....ADVICE TO CLEMSON play to win and stop playing not to lose.....it hasn't worked yet and never will. --James Davis you should have left last year and went PRO. this DISMAL season under BOWDEN has taken your stock down lower than the DOW today.....

greenvilleboi · 1 year ago

I AM SICK OF CLEMSON AND BOWDEN--Bowden never coaches to win he have those players playing not to lose...Anytime a game gets tight instead of doing what kept you in the game they always go to this soft (keep everything in front of me zone) and teams eat them up all the way to the endzone. IF blitzing and pressure kept you in the game dang it it will win a couple for you. Instead they run away from what keeps them in games and almost always loses it in the last minutes. that's been a trademark for this program. FINISH IT was the catch phrase the last 2 yrs and they still can't get it done. They fold under pressure everytime. I am a fan of clemson but i had to go to just watching them play.. I find it hard to root for them even when they are winning I sit back and think OK tigers show your true colors back offf you are up and let the team come back and win the game. IF YOU ARE NOT Going to play to win..You shouldn't waste the fuel cost to travel to the game. THE Trademark of clemson football is even if we are winning...WE WILL COME UP WITH NEW AND INNOVATING WAYS TO LET THE OTHER TEAM WIN....