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Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

Porcine — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:15:20 -0000

Sounds good.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

aVoiceInSC — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:16:56 -0000

I really wish they would move that game so that it's not 2 days after Thanksgiving. Maybe that only bothers me, but I hate it.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

Regan — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:21:33 -0000

It is truly comforting that others feel our pain. Thanks, Bevo. Fortunately for us this year, Clemson plays Carolina on Nov. 29 and Texas plays A&M on Nov. 27; the Hype Day is on the 22nd.

So hopefully everything will run smoothly for both games since Ohio State/Michigan will have been over with already by then.

Otherwise I would say we should organize a Fanblogger Protest. :)

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

Regan — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:11:39 -0000

Clemson needs to keep scheduling strong; the Tigers have done well in many of these years, but I'd absolutely love to see games against marquee opponents that we don't usually play or have never played.

Here's the BCS-Conference Teams Clemson has never played before:

Big Ten: Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin

Big East: Cincinnati, Connecticut, Louisville, South Florida (I believe Clemson played Rutgers prior to 1902, but have no data)

Big 12: Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas

Pac-10: Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon, Oregon State, UCLA, Washington, Washington State

SEC: Arkansas

Let's mix it up some :)

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

shiguy — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:08:06 -0000

i had to give my car a wash. they were stuck all over my winshield and mudflaps from driving through GA for both the sugar and gator bowl. LOL

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

Ben Prather — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:14:38 -0000

Ok...

If FSU-Miami has a maximal a maximal bitterness value of 5, there is no question what value the Utah-BYU should be.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

Ben Prather — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:05:01 -0000

You are talking to the missionaries that come to your door about the wrong topics. They are everywhere.

Bitterness was defined as good old fashioned hate, no further explanation needed. Nothing about national perception of that hatred is mentioned. It is not MY bitterness I am talking about, but the bitterness across the board of the fans in general of these two teams.

Neither schools is in southern Utah. Salt Lake City has plenty of trees owing to the fact that they are one of the most water rich cities in the US, Ironic from the fact Utah receives less rain per square mile than any other state. Most rivers in Utah lead to Salt Lake City.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

Bevo_Boiler — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:25:20 -0000

Try living in Big Ten Country when that game is about a month away. It was a lot easier to find previews of OSU/UM than the Texas/TAMU game that was going on at the time, and if I remember correctly, there were still 8 days until OSU played UM.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

aVoiceInSC — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:13:13 -0000

I'm definitely right there with you on that one, Regan.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

aVoiceInSC — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:12:00 -0000

That's true, but we are facing 2 SEC teams each year for the next 7 years starting in 2010. I just wish it was always Georgia and South Carolina like it used to be. At least in 2013, and 2014 it will be.

2010: Auburn, South Carolina
2011: Auburn, South Carolina
2012: Vanderbilt, South Carolina
2013: Vanderbilt, Georgia, South Carolina
2014: Georgia, South Carolina
2015: Mississippi, South Carolina
2016: Mississippi, South Carolina

I really don't understand your Georgia argument though. We're in the same boat as they are. We both have a respectable OOC opponent on our schedule every year. So, adding another is rough anyway you look at it, but we're doing it soon enough.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

Bevo_Boiler — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:08:37 -0000

So my bitterness toward TAMU doesn't make a difference? I could just stand (well, actually sit) here and yell (well, maybe just type) "RABBLE, RABBLE" 1000000000000 times and that wouldn't up the bitterness to a 6?

By the way, we have plenty of trees in IN. One fell on my dad's truck one time, and it made a sound...

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

Regan — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:35:57 -0000

Looks like a good list and good system, WEA.

Personally I'd like for Clemson-South Carolina to get more attention, but it's Carolina's fault for losing continuously and for leaving the ACC, so I'll call it a wash.

I will claim it is the absolute most underrated rivalry in CFB, however, and you really don't want to hear from me on the day that Michigan plays Ohio State if the two games are on the same day as to my crazed hatred of the hype that goes on from Big Ten country as The Battle of the Palmetto State is absolutely ignored by the media.

As recently as 2005 residents of SC had to beg ESPN2 to even show the most important game in our state while we were inundated with the flood of Michigan-Ohio State hype that none of us cared about.

That one will be stuck in my craw for at least a decade to come when it comes to spouting off about my hatred for the biggest over-hyped rivalry since the Hundred Years' War.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:18:22 -0000

There's little room for a tough OOC game when you play an eight game conference schedule, unless it's a historic rivalry. And it's even more difficult when you already have a rivalry with a quality OOC opponent.

Sure, Clemson might want to play Georgia again, but Georgia already has GA Tech, so fitting in another quality opponent for them year-in, year-out is asking a lot. Auburn would like to play GT again, and it would be easy for us since we don't have any current historic rivalries with a OOC opponent, but GT has Georgia, which would give them TWO tough OOC games every year. Fans would love it, but ADs and coaches would question it...

Keep in mind also that they have 12 games to work with these days, but most of these schedules were drawn up when we still had an 11 game schedule...

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

aVoiceInSC — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:33:19 -0000

Just like us and Georgia. It's a shame. Those are 2 rivalries that really should be played year in and year out.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

Porcine — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:21:44 -0000

Too bad it's gradually going away for the younger ones.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

1Tomcat — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:16:56 -0000

Has anybody on here ever played a visiting game against Galveston Ball High school ?
I have- BTW Barry Switzer recruited a lot of guys from Galveston Ball- Check it out-facts not jokes
Bitterness factor Arkansas vs Texas on a scale of 1 to 10------11+

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

aVoiceInSC — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:58:50 -0000

I wasn't talking about what is riding on it. I'm not delusional. It's almost always only about bragging rights. My only challenge was about the score you gave for bitterness. Bitterness is one thing that is certainly not absent from that game.

There have probably been more homicides relating to the game extending far beyond the last 3 years. However, this past year, one of the local news stations brought up the story beginning with "for the third year in a row...". I can remember events like this occurring all the way back through my childhood as well. It's not something I'm proud of at all, as I'm sure no one would claim to be. It's just an illustration of how bitter the rivalry really is.

We discontinued our annual game with Georgia due to the fact that the hatred far outweighed the significance of the game (at the time), and it seems to have done some good in cooling off some of that hatred. However, a break in this rivalry might do more harm than good.

Look, I know it was a joke. In my opinion it was an ill placed joke. Maybe I was a little too sensitive to it, but you were attacking my entire state. So, I felt the need to defend. I apologize if it came off too harshly. My point was only to illustrate how intense that rivalry is. I certainly think that the game outranks Penn State and Pitt, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Overall though, it was a nice post. I will gladly give you that.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:03:02 -0000

Both rivalries scored a 5 for bitterness, but FSU-UM scored more for the stakes because they're now in the same conference, and historically when they were both independents, there was always at-large bids open for big bowl games for the winner...

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:54:51 -0000

Well, I guess you have to brag about something since there's usually nothing else riding on that game...

You didn't qualify your statement above with for the last three years, you said every year.

That would make my claim of a weekly homicide falling somewhere inside the state significantly more accurate than your statement attributing a homicide to the game every year.

It was a joke to begin with. Jesus...

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

gatorhippy — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:36:01 -0000

I gotta agree with that, my Nole compadre...

The "bitterness" factor between FSU/UM isn't really there...

It's much more of a "respectful" rivalry...

Probably more of a 3 in terms of true bitterness...

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

Kevin @ Fanblogs — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:08:50 -0000

Here's my bias:

I'm going to say that Florida - FSU ranks higher than FSU - Miami, even if the Noles-Canes was really *the* must see rivalry nationwide in the 1990s. If you ask most Noles to choose a win, they'll pick UF.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

aVoiceInSC — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:39:22 -0000

Well for the last 3 years, there has been 1 murder in the state that has been attributed to fights/arguments immediately following the annual football game. So, yes, one homicide related to the game per game, for the last 3 years. Does that make sense?

Your statement was ridiculous though, I'll give you that.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:29:51 -0000

Thank you, but that subject is usually the mirror that Alabama fans can't look into. No one is coming to take them away. The NCAA never has governed MNCs, and there's no way they will wade into the fracus decades after the fact.

Historical MNCs are on the honor system, and unfortunately, some teams have broken the trust of CFB, IMHO.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

Zac — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:20:12 -0000

I'll agree with stupidity. Ignorance means you don't know any better, and I'm not buying that.

Re: Brother Against Brother: The Top Intrastate College Football Rivalries in the Country

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:19:18 -0000

I was thinking that your claim of serving up one homicide per contest didn't make sense, either, Joe.

I can see that my attempt to out-ridiculous you was for naught.