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Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

1Tomcat — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:03:14 -0000

Thanks Bama Babe-Na I aint bitter and tOSU will play a heck of a game, I woulda prefered a Bama vs UT matchup just to help clarify things for BC.
Yes I've heard of Texas Tech, we play them every year
07 OU over Texas Texas over Texas Tech
Texas Tech over OU
08 Texas over OU Texas Tech over Texas
OU over Texas Tech
Texas has won 3 outa last 4 OU
3 outa last 4 TTech
Hookem-Horns
Merry Christmas

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

Wardboy3 — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:08:00 -0000

It is actually California.
Here are the Top 3 states with the most NFL players:
California: 198
Texas: 173
Florida: 169

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

Wardboy3 — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:59:10 -0000

You right...I meant 10 & 11...didn't you that is what I meant?

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

blackdawg — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:49:51 -0000

CJ: Sorry for not being very prompt replying. We've been pretty busy recently and I'm not making time to blog like I should.

Most are upset with Martinez the DC. The defense was horrible and no one saw that coming. Richt says he is not going to make any changes but
Martinez is not very popular at the moment.

Coach Richt is blaming their no contact practices that they implemented after getting so many players hurt. Whatever it is, the specter of Meyer and Saban hanging over the conference like the 90's version of Spurrier and Fulmer is not sitting well with the fans. Then there is Johnson at GT. GA defense gives up 26 unanswered points to hated Tech. Johnson is an innovative offensive mind, the Dawgs are going to need to be more creative and inspired on defense.

There is not many seasons that a team will have a Moreno, Stafford, Green, Momass on offense. You don't challenge with that talent you have a serious flaw somewhere and some would say it Martinez.

With all that said Richt gets the benefit of the doubt because of his previous success. Saban and Meyer, I believe, would have made a change under similar circumstances.

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

Tommy_Trojan — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:34:16 -0000

Bama_Babe:

I'm still not sold that the BIG 12 is the strongest conference. The only thing that I can see is that Oklahoma beat TCU pretty handily. What really good BCS program wouldn't? Other than that game - who did they schedule? The SEC played much tougher non-conf games with their ACC foes this year. I'll take good defense over good offense any day of the week. Therefore, I would suspect, that many a good SEC team would beat a good BIG 12 team.

My money is on Florida to beat the spread. Florida plays defense, Bradford is gonna have pressure all dayum day long, and the Oklahoma receivers will have Florida DB's stuck inside of their jerseys. This isn't gonna be like playing pitch and catch in those pathetic BIG 12 games. Oklahoma isn't gonna understand what happened - just like Ohio State hasn't understood in the previous two years. The one thing that the SEC really has going for it is the tough defense. That is what helps the SEC perform very well in the Bowl games. Other conferences do not provide the intense defense, week in and week out, that the SEC teams provide. It can be quite a shock.

That is why my Trojans play so well in BCS bowl games. The defense can be overwhelming at times. Many schools are just not quite prepared for that kinda intensity. I can see Penn State coming apart in this one. They haven't seen anything like this. It will be an enormous shock. Likewise for Utah. What they are gonna witness in the Sugar Bowl is going to be something that they have not seen. Alabama's defense is gonna be on them like stink on sheeit. So, I can get your point. All I'm saying really, is that some of the SEC teams offenses were so poor this year, that they were completely destroyed by any kind of good defensive team. Teams like Tennessee, Auburn, LSU, Kentucky and Georgia have suffered mightily on offense this year. This can be attributed to injuries (as in Kentucky and Georgia's case), loss of good coaching (LSU on defense), and changeover of good offensive personnel from the previous year. Nevertheless, the SEC still plays very good defense, and will probably do okay in the Bowl games. Florida and Alabama should do really well - and Georgia could look impressive also. This still does not "etch into stone" that the SEC was any kinda dominate conference this year. I really don't feel like the SEC drew the toughest teams that they could play in the Bowl games either. Florida didn't have to play USC. Alabama didn't have to play Texas or Penn State. So, without playing against the best teams in those games - the SEC cannot make the argument that they are the strongest conference. Likewise, I'm not gonna toot my own horn when we beatdown Penn State. It would have been much better to be playing either Florida or Alabama. I don't picture the BIG 12 as being any better than the BIG 10 - but that is just my opinion. Our record has been very good against both of those conferences forever - and I don't see much difference in them.

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

aVoiceInSC — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:14:13 -0000

Yeah, we will, but that is quite a long way off. Those will be 2 very different teams by then. By then, maybe neither team will be building, and it could turn out to be a heck of a match up. We will have to wait (quite a while) and see.

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

Hotty_Toddy — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:05:29 -0000

A week from this Friday! Can't wait!

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

Hotty_Toddy — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:04:31 -0000

Actually, no... it doesn't really matter either way. You can't, and won't know, until (if) we play each other. We can speculate. And I say we're better than you, and you say the opposite.

It's okay, we'll know soon enough when we play you guys ;)

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

OU_Ron — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:49:09 -0000

TC, at least BB called you Mister Tomcat, I like fiesty females....;-)

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

Bama_Babe — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:32:44 -0000

HAHAHA...now THAT is a funny post, Mr. Tomcat.

"we know we are the best in the country and can whup anybody- especially Bama,USC or Fla"

Riiiight. I guess you haven't heard of a little team called Texas Tech. Yeah, maybe if you would have beaten them you wouldn't be bitter about being left out and we would get to see the FL-TX matchup you wanted. Trust me - you better be glad ya'll are playing tOSU instead. 12-1 will look better than 11-2....

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

OU_Ron — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:31:21 -0000

Since Arkansas backed out, you might check, Mack may have replaced them with the Rattlers..... ;-)

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

OU_Ron — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:22:47 -0000

I'll have to check, I thought Fla St was in 2010 and 11

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

1Tomcat — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:08:42 -0000

Thanks Ron Merry Christmas to all of yours
Whats purty funny is that the Horns scheduled back to back against Arkansas one of the strongest teams from the toughest conference according to BC and after beating the MNC champs they were emberassed by Missu #6 B-12 team fired their coach and got beat down by the Longhorns 52-10.
They chickened out on next years game and scheduled Texas A&M #11 team in the B-12 who got whuped by BU.
Both Texas A&M & Arkansas used to be real tough opponents and this season those teams did not help the Horns SOS. The Rice Owls ended up going 9-3 with losses to Tulsa,Texas and Vandy all winning bowl bound programs.
Looks like next year the Horns get Wyoming, Rice and UCF, but I think we got Home & home coming up with Ole Miss & UCLA- well at least it aint Tenn Chatt LOL
Adios Tomcat

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

Wardboy3 — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:08:20 -0000

And don't forget that OK is picking up Fla St in 2009 & 2010.

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

1Tomcat — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:45:01 -0000

Hotty Toddy

Oreg>Oreg ST>USC>UCLA> Tenn> Vandy>Ole Miss>Fla>Bama>Ark>Tulsa>Rice>Houston>Tulsa>Rice>S Miss>Troy

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

Tyler_Tech — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:37:21 -0000

Guys, Guys, You need not debate!!
Texas Tech>Ole Miss
There that settles it.

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

1Tomcat — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:04:33 -0000

BC your not a comedian, but your posts are purty funny
drunk with rage? do what?
heck man I'm a Texas fan, we know we are the best in the country and can whup anybody- especially Bama,USC or Fla
The Feista is a better Bowl than Alamo or Cotton and tOSU is always a tough competitive opponent and a traditional power even more so than Bama who until recently has been licking the AU Tigers boots and losing to La Monroe & Miss St.
Now yall finally pull off a few nail biters against some mediocre teams and get a spot in the Sugar-congrats
I dont think Saban or the Bama nation wanted any Burnt Orange competetion because the results would be aterrible wake up call for delusional Tide fans who are basking in the twilight of their less than stellar season. The Tide will probaby beat Utah but I'll be pulling for the Utes and their QB is from Texas.
BTW I'll also be pulling for Fla because everybody knows OU Sux- LOL Hookem-Horns- America's team

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

1Tomcat — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:47:53 -0000

Hey Ron I aint forgot nothing- been an outstanding year for Texas Football going 11-1 for the season and going against 4 top ten undefeated teams in consecutive weeks, whuping the H outa Arkansas and Rice 52-10, beating Colo in Boulder and taking care of business in big D against what some folks think are the #1 team in the country- purty good for Horns fans
Hookem Horns

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

Bama_Babe — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:46:57 -0000

Tommy,

I think the way I worded my post was misleading. I by no means think that the SEC would be the strongest just because the top team is the strongest. I was arguing with what Clemson Joe said about the Big XII being stronger at the top just because they had more strong teams.

Yes, the Big XII had a stronger year than the SEC - based on all 12 teams in each conference. However, my point was that just because the Big XII has more teams that are stronger doesn't mean that those teams are the strongEST. If Florida, the top team in the SEC, beats Oklahoma, arguably the strongest team in the Big XII, then that would mean the TOP of the SEC is stronger than the TOP of the Big XII. Not the entire conference, I understand that.

Sorry for the confusion. Don't let me down in the Rose Bowl-I've got your Trojans on top of my Bowl Picks, and I'll need those points....I'm doing awful right now!

;)

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

1Tomcat — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:54:38 -0000

BC
You got Ark beating Kansas what you been smoking?
You think the Gamecocks would win in Lincoln?
Baylor could beat over half the teams in the SEC including Ole Miss & Vandy- defenetly win against Ark,Miss St & Tenn

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

1Tomcat — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:46:29 -0000

Excellent post CJ
Miami> Vandy>Ole Miss>Fla>Bama
Texas>Ark>LSU
Texas>OU>TTech>OK st>Missu
Texas>Rice> S Miss>Troy

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

1Tomcat — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:33:33 -0000

BC This is some of the most ridiculas stuff I ever read
No Way that Tenn could beat Baylor-Baylor would whup Tenn all over the place- Texas would whup the hell out of Bama wouldnt even be funny- Missu would whup LSU and they aint as good as OK State, OU or TTech who would all be undefeated in the SEC
Fla might beat one or two of them, but would drop two or three if they played in the B-12- thats a fact Jack!
Hookem-Horns

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

aVoiceInSC — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:30:22 -0000

LOL. Are you serious? Not too good at logic are we?

SC isn't better than Clemson, so that proves nothing. Let me help you here:
Florida > FSU
FSU > Clemson

That logic makes sense. Yours doesn't at all.
A > B
B > C
C > A
Regardless of anything else, the first is true. A > B.

Clemson is 5 spots higher in the Sagarin. Take it up with him.

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

Tommy_Trojan — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:09:49 -0000

Bleed,

Your problem is that you don't seem to understand that College Football analysts don't decide football games. You yourself are an analyst. You are completely absorbed with some silly notion that cannot be proven until you play all of the very best teams. But, that is never gonna happen, so there will never be any proof anyway. I think that the PAC 10 is gonna go 5-0 in their Bowl games. Now, it really doesn't matter that I think that. And, it really isn't gonna matter if they actually do it.

If the PAC 10 went 5-0 (with wins over BYU, Oklahoma State, Miami, Pittsburgh and Penn State), while the SEC went 3-5 for instance, would this somehow get you to change your mind about who the strongest conference was? I didn't think so. You know why? Because your an analyst. You've analyzed the SEC and have determined that it is the best. Nothing can change your mind. No matter how many games the SEC lost to the ACC this year - nothing is gonna change your opinion. You see, you must believe this, in order to pretend that Alabama had one of the greatest teams in history this year. Fact is: Alabama caught everybody in a down year except for Florida and was thrown "a biscuit" in Utah for the Sugar Bowl game. The same "biscuit" was thrown to Georgia last year when they got to play a weak Hawaii team. The same "biscuit" was thrown to LSU when they drew Notre Dame. So you'll get to beat up on Utah, and go about your merry way pretending that the SEC is "the greatest", because Florida is gonna get to beat up on the "biscuit" that they were just thrown also. It's all just too comical for anybody to take too seriously, except for the die-hard SEC fans, who really think that this is all real. What's really real is that none of your really great teams have ever had to play Southern Cal to earn a National Championship. That's what is really the joke of the whole BCS. And, just about everybody else in the country has figured this little secret out. Except for you.

Re: Conference Debates: 2009 NFL Pro Bowl Edition

Tommy_Trojan — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:50:49 -0000

Bama_Babe:

It seems like your argument sounds like this: if USC blows out everybody in the country - then the PAC 10 must be the best conference because they have the strongest team. No matter how good USC is - it doesn't make the PAC 10 teams any better than they really are. Same goes for Florida or Oklahoma or Penn State or anybody. USC won a couple of National Championships in a row and that didn't make the PAC 10 the best conference. Neither does the fact that Florida and LSU winning the last two, cement into concrete, that the SEC is by far the best conference. You just got lucky enough to have gotten to play Ohio State both times.

The best teams in your conference are reaching a very high standard though. I will give you that. But, Clemson Joe's points are very valid. The bottom of the conference has always been weak. If the bottom of a conference is weak - then the top of that conference will appear to be strong. No? Sprinkle in many mid-major and Division II teams to beat up on in the pre-season - and the teams will all look better than they really are. The SEC is WAY DOWN this year. Of that there is no doubt. After the bowl games there will be proof. I think that both Florida and Alabama win their respective bowl games and are as good as any teams in the country. But, all of the rest of the SEC teams are in danger of losing bowl games this year. We've already seen the ACC take games away that used to belong to the SEC. None of this means that the SEC will not bounce back. They most certainly will. But, with all of the younger QB's that are going to be inheriting jobs, this may not happen for another couple of years.

My advise is to not get too caught up into thinking that the SEC is gonna be dominating too many bowl games this year. Just be happy if Florida and Alabama win.