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Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

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Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

avnish0 — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:53:05 -0000

hi,guys The teams that consistantly o 8-5, 9-4, would suffer, because they would not play for the NC, so if you took away the bowl games, they would get nothing, and really don't believe that there would be enough time to play all the bowl games, and then have a playoff system.I think last year was quite the anomaly. Under the belief that no team had a legitimate claim, then whoever is 5th definitely doesn't have an argument.

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Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

Aurburn University checks — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:45:20 -0000

Wow a lot of comments on this post

This is a quote from PAC10 Commissioner, Tom Hanson from an article titled, "PAC10: We Will Not Support A BCS Playoff", which you posted on July 27, 2007. While he did indicate that the Presidents of each member school were opposed, the quote above indicates there are others "colleagues" who are interested. Now, I don't know how many the "s", which indicates plural, represents. It could be 2 it could be 10. The point is, there is still interest at his level.

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

Jeff — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:19:22 -0000

Lets see here....in 2007 CAL went 3-6 in the PAC-10 (7-6 overall) and defeated TN by 14 pts who went 6-2 in the SEC and was the SEC East Champ.

SEC fans need to stop the chant, that all SEC fans do, that is SEC is the greatest/toughest & no one else can compete in our conference.

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

zach17 — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:48:35 -0000

The PAC-10 and the Big 10(11) dont want any part of a play-off because then they get exposed. The PAC-10 will show how top heavy they are in USC... and I give no love to any other PAC-10 school till they prove they can play. And the Big 10(11) is horrible down the board. Ohio State beats everyone then goes to the national championship undefeated and gets destroyed by a superior team. And if they had a playoff then they would probably lose first round if they drew a SEC team or even a Texas, Oklahoma, or even a WVU... so of course they wouldn't want a playoff. And it wouldn't be fair for anyone seeing as how a playoff would benefit an SEC team anyways because they are used to a brutal week in week out scedule during the regular season. So playing a caliber opponent two weeks in a row would not be anything out of the norm for them. Where as for any other conference it would. The Big XII is making there strides of becoming a very well rounded conference in the last couple of years... but still has a ways to go.

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

AUtigerman — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:18:47 -0000

They played a WAC schedule with wins out of conference over Texas A&M, Arizona and North Carolina. Certanly not the toughest schedule.
However they did beat Pittsburg in the BCS fiesta bowl.
I guess my point is that if NON BCS schools will never have a chance to win the NT ( examples Boise State, Hawaii,Utah)then why not just put them in aseperate conference all together. The BCS sort of already does that by not giving any other conferences automatic bids.
That way you eliminate the playing field before the season even starts. Of all the NON BCS conference schools ive seen play since the inception of the BCS i think 04 Utah was prehaps the best team.

And BTW i was trying to respond to UTAH's earlier post but it just happend to come out under yours....:)

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

OU_Ron — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:11:10 -0000

It wasn't OU, sorry Ben..

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

JB — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:54:45 -0000

Utah??? who did they play in '04

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

AUtigerman — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:50:13 -0000

You of all people should think 2004 was an exception. USC ,Auburn and your team Utah all finished unscathed.
Unless you think Utah didnt have any kind of valid claim. But I for one think there offense was good enough to play with anyone that year.

Its certainly not inconceivable that all BCS conference schools could post a one loss team,and a non BCS team have an undefeated team in the same year.

We will certainly see 3 undefeated teams again in the future. Plus one is better then nothing but would have to try and find a way to be fair.

Even Utah deserved some love in 2004. But under most proposals ive seen they would have been left out of a plus one.

Has anyone else noticed how the BCS goes out of there way not to match the teams we would love to see play each other in bowl games?
Even if you dont have a play off why couldnt they match a team like USC and Georgia especially when the Big 10 champion cant make the Rose bowl due to being in thye NC game. Sure it would have ended in a split national crown but that would have been a great game.
You can plug any two BCS teams in you want still seems they are just trying to avoid controversy.

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

Football Picks — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:36:05 -0000

Compared to what? To the current system, no. Compared to an 8 team playoff, perhaps. But I really don't see that a 16-team playoff is bad for college football.

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

Gatorboy41 — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:55:56 -0000

Skip, that would be awsome, but I have a question. Would it be fair to take a team that won their conference with a record of 8-5 to the NC playoffs, or take a team that did not win the conference , but had a record of 11-2, and loss their conference playoffs. A playoff would be the less evil, but it would have its issues.

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

Gatorboy41 — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:46:47 -0000

The conference champion would be the fairest way to go, if you a does not win their conference, they should not play for the NC.

If there were a playoff, the teams that would suffer most, would be the teams that, never really have a real chance at the NC year after year, and struggle just to get in a bowl. The teams that consistantly o 8-5, 9-4, would suffer, because they would not play for the NC, so if you took away the bowl games, they would get nothing, and really don't believe that there would be enough time to play all the bowl games, and then have a playoff system. But I am in favor of a playff of some sort.

I feel that UGA should have had a shot at the NC, but even in a playoff system where the conference winner play in the playoffs, UGA would still not have played in the playoffs.

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

Skip — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:17:31 -0000

Utah coming out on top in a 4-team tournament with USC, Auburn, and Oklahoma would have been an upset of absolutely titanic proportions. Though I guess that's sort of the point of having a playoff.

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

AUtigerman — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:14:46 -0000

Just let the writers figure out who the best teams are. That way they can pick the teams that will make the most money in the bowl games.
Further corrupting college football and driving prices to see teams play even higher.
Also all conferences should have pay per view and that way none of us could watch the games without paying.

This system would virtually guarantee the rise of old time greats like Notre Dame and Alabama. While keeping lesser teams like Auburn, Kansas, WVU out of the championship game.

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

Skip — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:46:56 -0000

Can we at least all agree that a 16-team playoff would be bad for college football?

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

Football Picks — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:41:24 -0000

I believe a playoff will happen eventually. Maybe I just NEED to believe that to get through each season of mythical champions but I do believe it. Eventually the 100 year old ADs and school presidents will die and younger blood will move in and realize the opportunity they have with a hybrid playoff bowl system and it will get done. The plus one game is a great start, it's a 2 team playoff. Like Skip said, then 4, then 8, then 16 and eventually we'll all be complaining that it's gotten too big. But that's a much better problem to have!

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

JB — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:24:29 -0000

Good, i totally agree with this format!!!...but do i ever think it will happen......no (unfortunately)

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

Zac — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:47:17 -0000

Well, you got me there, Kevin. I didn't know of the meeting and apparently completely missed the reference to it up top. (Which is it, by the way?)

Now for my next silly question: Do you recognize the following?

"It's a little annoying that my colleagues continue to float this idea as though it has merit. If they continue to push it, and try to push us into a corner ... "

As for my comment, not only was it based upon Tom Hanson's quote (the PAC-10 part of it, that is), but it was based upon "theoman's" comment above mine; not to mention, the quote by Craig Thomson, MWC Commissioner, which doesn't exactly indicate disinterest, only concern of being left out if there was a play-off.

As for the article you referenced. I agree; it does state there wasn't enough support. I didn't see a vote tally, however, to substantiate who was and was not in favor of a play-off. In fact, if I had to make a guess, it seemed to me the article indicated the primary reason for the "no" vote were the 2 years remaining in the BCS contract; after which, the idea may resurface. So, at least for the next 2-3 season, I have to concede; it ain't happening. Thanks for the feedback.

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

cougar_fan — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:19:44 -0000

Amen

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

cougar_fan — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:17:09 -0000

I like this but just let it be top 8 no guarunteed spots for BCS conferences (We don't want a weak ACC or Big East champ getting in (e.g. Pitt 2004)).

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

fosterkeats — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:34:50 -0000

Roy Kramer's almost dead anyway...

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

Kevin @ Fanblogs — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:22:12 -0000

Zac - There's really no way I can agree with your statement. Just a few months ago at the annual meeting, the commissioners of 11 conferences (yep, pretty much everybody) and Notre Dame sat down and voted on a plus-one that would be seeded, essentially a four-team playoff. It was shot down. The only ones supporting the movement were the ACC & SEC. So... be my count... that's TEN VOTES NO.

You are correct on one point, it is not entirely true that the Pac-10 is the hold up. There are plenty of votes of other "no" votes to back up that Pac10 - Big10 alliance.

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

Zac — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:23:16 -0000

If you re-read the article, it's not even 3 of 10. MWC's, Craig Thompson, admits his coaches and administrators want a play-off, but they don't want to be left out. (Can't blame em there.) So, he's not exactly against a play-off. Rather, he wants to know in what form it would be before he weighs in on the subject. In effect, it's only 2 of 10 indicating disinterest. Now, if you recall a previous thread discussing the PAC-10, it wasn't the conference which was against it, only their lead commissioner. So, for those who think the PAC-10 is the hold up, not entirely true.

Re: Conference honchos say no-way to playoffs

ksuwild — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:41:28 -0000

Money talks and BS walks.

In the end there is to much money to me made with a playoff system for it to be passed up much longer. Money isn't the reason the system should change per say but it will ultimately be what tips the scale.

Hey Skip, Utah was undefeated in 04' too... they weren't exactly chopped liver either.