DISQUS

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

"I mean, it's a prayer, so... turn the other cheek?"

A lot of people misinterpret the "turn the other cheek" lesson. If you're attacked, you defend yourself, whether being punched, stabbed, or shot at.

I agree that Kelly should've discussed the activity with Kragthorpe beforehand, given the incident in 2004.

TampaGator · 1 year ago

This reminds me of UF-FSU, several years ago. Don't recall specifically which game it was, but prior to one of the matchups in G'ville, FSU started jumping up and down on our mid-field logo and, naturally, a scuffle broke out. In response to that incident, for several years afterwards, the coaches had the teams meet at mid-field to pray--although, if recollection serves, that occurred after the games. I don't remember seeing them do it last year or the yeaer before, but when they did do it, I thought it was very compelling sight--to see hated rivals come together and humble themselves before God, to acknowlege the many blessings He has bestowed upon all of us....

...put things beautifully into perspective.

I'd like to see them continue that--maybe see cincy and UL do so, as well...


GO GATORS!!

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Great post, and great idea. Mutual prayer seems to diffuse hatred a bit if nothing else, and to put things into perspective a little more.

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

That's a good idea for all teams to start doing, 'mutual prayer', before, and maybe after all games. It would be a great tradition to start in all levels of football, I think; and in this case, college football.

PittsburghTiger · 1 year ago

That just doesn't seem like enough of a reason to get upset. This "disrespected" crap has to stop. They were not stomping on it they were not flashing gang signs...Just stupid

Regan · 1 year ago

Agreed. This is why I put Louisville on my Hated list, given how that they get so whiny about that darned bird on their 50 yard line.

Gathering for a prayer? Get a life, Cards.....

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

Yep, I agree also.

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

P.T., Agreed. You've got a head on your shoulders. This expression just means that you're smart, and in this case, you're right on target here.

jake · 1 year ago

So, yes, Louisville overreacted. But at the same time, can't you see why they were irritated? Of all the possible places the Cincy players could have chosen to pray, they picked the middle of the opposition's field!
P'Tiger, I agree that this "disrespected" crap has to stop. However, players need to show intelligent discretion. Maybe pray on the bus or in the locker room. Or how about your own sideline!?
Coach Kelly, when Kragthorpe decides to hold his pre-game huddle at your midfield next year are you going to say anything? Yea, that's what I thought.

JB · 1 year ago

They were PRAYING!!! how in the hell is that disrespectful, no matter where it is at? And why would they be irritated? It wasnt a huddle, but a prayer. There is nothing wrong with that, even if they went into the Louisville Locker room and did it. This wasnt disruptive to Louisville at all. It isnt like they called a timeout to go out onto the field and say the rosary. This was before the game, after warm-ups

Grow up UL

jake · 1 year ago

It's not that the act of praying was disrespectful but rather the manner in which they prayed. Are you seriously telling me that the act of praying is a "anywhere, anytime" type of activity? Compare praying to any other non-disrespectful activity the Cincy players could have done and the situation still illustrates that there are times and places for even in the purest actions.

I'm not defending UL merely for the purpose of arguing. I'm just saying, do whatever you want just do it on your sideline or your locker room or your ____________.

I'll put it in perspective for all of your die-hard SEC fans. Bama v. LSU, saturday night under the lights, nationally televised game. Both teams are warming up and 5 Bama players decided, of all places, that they want to pray in the middle of the field. You think that the appox. 100,000 tigers fans aren't going to wonder "why of all places did you decide to pray on our midfield?"

JB · 1 year ago

I see what you are saying........ we probably wouldve booed ( we are still gun-shy about the mid-field thing, after Tebow and Co. did their pregame jump in the air and do the chomp thing on the Eye of the Tiger)     I can see where they (UL) would be perplexed, but making a deal out of it is not the thing to do.

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

JB, what Tebow did was disrespectful, if I know and remember just what exactly you're referring to; and I think I remember that now very clearly. Nevertheless, prayer is different than what Tebow did, that's for sure. I think prayer should be allowed wherever and whenever. Prayer is good thing, but Tebow and Co. jumpiong up in the air in their pre-game and doing the chomp thing is (ESPECIALLY ON THE EYE OF THE TIGER!!!). That is considered taugnting (however it's spelled, anyway) to me, and even without scoring, It could be just rubbing a successful play in one's oponent's face. They're definitely 2 separate and distinct things (prayer and what Tebow & Co. did ON THE EYE OF THE TIGER!!!). That's very clear.

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

Jake, I just think there should be a new tradition of mutual prayer (both teams getting on the 50 yard line and praying, not just after the game like many teams already do, but also, before the game. Prayer should never be considered a bad thing ........ Never!

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

I agree with ya totally, JB. You're right on again!!!

John Doe · 1 year ago

That is pretty pathetic on the part of UofL. Who cares about their stupid bird logo. I guess this is their fandoms attempt at trying to act bad. Well, guess what? You are bad alright. Very bad. You are pathetic. You are a bottom feeder in the weak big east. Irrelevant. It is meaningless to stomp on that bird's head when you can beat your weak team all over the field. That is what the real teams do. The pretenders stick to fighting for the little bird painted on their field.

Zac · 1 year ago

Emotions are gonna run high when the stakes are high. With the win, Cincy had a solid chance to win the Big East. With another win, Louisville had a chance (still not there yet) to go bowl eligible. Some of Brian Kelly's Christian athletes take a knee, and a couple of UofL Sr's think it's the 2nd coming of Mark Dantonio's antics from 2004, and they let their emotions get the better of them; not to mention, their coach backs them.

Now, I understand the how & why. The question remains, Should it have happened at all? The answer is, NO! Basis: What will happen to a given team's logo, when the visiting team stomps or prays on it, that won't happen 10 times over due to both teams playing on it in the course of a game? This is just plain silly. It's the reason the friggen things are re-painted before a home game, along with all the yard -ines, hash-marks, end-zones, out-of-bounds markers, etc. Such a scene over so little indicates both a lack of discipline and poor prioritization.

What also gets me a little is the fact that Kragthorpe got irritated over Kelly's players. The friggen guy wasn't even Louisville's HC back in 2004. What's his beef?

The good news: You gotta give em both an A+ for keeping their heads cool. Kelly & Kragthorpe swallowed some good ole fashion American pride, and set a great example for their players. That's how you lead, by example.

In short, it's a non-issue. So, what was all the fuss about again?

corey · 1 year ago

They do it every game but since krag is an idiot he had to make a problem out of it.

PittsburghTiger · 1 year ago

JB....I wasn't saying that the prayer was disrespectful.

I was saying that the reason Louisville reacted the way they did was probably the popular phrase of being "disrespected".

Dissed.......It is that reaction I said must stop.

shiguy · 1 year ago

Wow. That wow was not for the fact that they had a prayer midfield but more at Kelly's comments. If you're damn team was so respectful they would have known at the WVU game that they didn't stomp us and they certainly almost lost the whole thing. More importantly if you have such a respectful team, why did the WHOLE TEAM come and taught the student section after the game. I wish the cameras would have shown that as it was blatantly obvious with the team running over to join in the taunting. There was no reason for it. Yes you had a big win, but you almost lost and whats more you got EXTREMELY lucky off a bogus roughing the passer call setting up a 1st and goal situation on the 7 yard line. Class? ya right. Not only were the players in on it, the assistants joined in. If someone was wearing a big "C" on the field at the time 90% chance they were over taunting the students. I never wanted to go to Cincy but after that classless act I'll be going next year, and I'll be bringing ammunition....

4cornerz · 1 year ago

Thats why they lost. Jesus is cool peoples

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

4cornerz, I can't agree with you that's why they lost exactly. But, I do agree that Jesus is cool peoples, for sure, for sure. Jesus doesn't take sides. Anyone or team can pray to win. But, I've got news for them. God does not take sides. 'Prayer for a safe game' would be okay ........ and with no injuries ....... would be a pretty good prayer, I guess.

MarkS · 1 year ago

At BYU we have a prayer for the whole stadium, but it's usually just before the national anthem and the teams coming out onto the field.

Our team also does a pre-game haka, home and away. Away, they do it in front of the BYU section, and non-participating players form a visual shield between the haka players and the opposing team, so it doesn't look like we're trying to do something to provoke or intimidate them.

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

MarkS, if a team is trying to provoke or intimidate another team with prayer, that is WRONG. But, prayer anywhere and anytime seems okay with me. I didn't read the article thoroughly, but did they try to provoke Louisiville, for sure, or did Louisiville just interpret that way? If it was just a matter of misinterpretation, I see nothing wrong with prayer in this case. Taughnting (I can't spell this; straighten my spelling out please) with prayer, if it's clearly taughnting, they're wrong to do that just like any other type of taughnting. God does not like to be used, that's for sure, at someone's or many people's convenience, that's for sure.