DISQUS

NMLSooner · 1 year ago

first!...or whatever.

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Good morning Miami Hurricane fans!! Ain't it a great day to be alive?

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

RG, IMO Ga Tech has the best uniforms of any college team, I probably should have posted this on one of the fashion threads, but I knew you were a fan.....

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Thanks, Ron - I'm afraid that few share your opinion, but it will (presumably) help with recruiting.

TheMayor · 1 year ago

Not bad, not bad. I think they look pretty cool for Russell Athletic Wear...

"BC" · 1 year ago

it's not nike....
haha

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

LOL. That was a good old fashioned @ss whuppin' last night.

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

I was worried in the first quarter as the defense couldn't seem to tackle anybody. After that, pretty much everything seemed to be going Georgia Tech's way, even the weather.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Had the Miami QB thrown that pass a little lower, he would have hit Johnson right in the groin! That guy's what, 6'7"? He had to put his arms down to intercept it...

BTW, I didn't go. My friend needed that ticket for his sister, so I sat at home and watched it. Everytime I got off the couch, Tech scored. Crazy...

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Please get off the couch more often. ;-)

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Well, his sister came in town last minute, and his brother was already going and he used to play for Tech back in the mid-late 80s, so I volunteered.

Besides, they were having a 'white-out' and I just don't wear white after Labor Day...

Porcine · 1 year ago

Isn't every day after Labor Dayi?

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Back before AC wearing white during the summer helps keep you cool. This is defeated if you wear white all winter long.

The practice of wearing white only from memorial day to labor day was one of comfort.

Darker colors should be worn during the winter to help keep warm anyways.

Zac · 1 year ago

Can you believe they reviewed that play? I mean WTF for?!? Did they think he bobled it all the way into the end-zone from 20+ yards out? Makes no sence. By the way, congrats, RG. C-Dogg, where-ever you are, my heart bleeds for thee.

C-DOGG · 1 year ago

I'm cool Zac...not surprised. We haven't beaten tech yet. I expected my Canes to have 8-9 wins this season. They are on pace. I believe that 2010 is our year to make a serious run at a national title. I expect about 9 wins next seaon. Hopefully we can meet up with Notre Dame in a bowl game this year. I was making plans to go to the ACC title game...not now!! lol

congrats G.tech. the better team CLEARLY won. Go Canes!

Cobia · 1 year ago

DAMN YELLOW JACKETS!

Regan · 1 year ago

Hi, RG, I'd like you to meet my good friend - Karma....... :)

hricane23 · 1 year ago

Regan and Other Canes fans,

I'd like to personally apologize for my past actions that may have led to the U's trouble with Ga Tech since joining the ACC. Over a decade ago, I fancied myself a bit of a Yellow Jacket fan. I purchased a Ga Tech Starter jacket, and some hats. They were sort of my 2nd team, behind my beloved Canes, of course.

While I haven't worn the jacket in years, it has remained in my closet... until last night. I have begun exorcising our demons, by following these steps:
Step 1: Urinate on jacket - completed
Step 2: Burn jacket - Pending action for this evening
Step 3: Bury jacket upside down - To be completed once the charred jacket cools off
Step 4: Continue to urinate on jacket's burial plot the night before each meeting, as long as I live in the same house (might be weird to show up to some other guy's house and pee on a certain spot in his yard every year)

The curse will be lifted in time for next year's title run.

And now it's back to my Fanblogs boycott...

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

What did Fanblogs do to you?

Hey, don't be like that. We need ONE Canes fan who actually attended UCG...

Regan · 1 year ago

Hey, at least since last year I can claim I've walked the campus, WEA....we're getting somewhere. :)

hricane23 · 1 year ago

I'd love to answer you, WEA, about why I'm boycotting. I'd love to tell you about how I'm boycotting because of I simply got bored (and sometimes frustrated) with all of the "The SEC's the best conference!" and the "No, you're not!" and the "Yes, we are!" and the "Nuh uh!", that I simply stopped saying anything. I just don't have much to add to all of the arguments. Anyway, I'd love to tell you all that, but I'm boycotting.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

hricane23...I've been meaning to tell you something...

The SEC is the best conference! Yes, we are!

Hugs & Kisses,

-TE-

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

Hey T.E., Did you go to the Ole Miss game. I thought I saw you there anyway. If you weren't there, I apologize. But, I almost got to meet another true Tiger Fan. It would've been great. But, we might have a new Q.B., nonetheless, for the rest of the year. Jefferson did pretty good at times, along with his very 1st T.D. as Tiger. Later .....

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Come on! You know you have to change hearts and minds one fan at a time! Besides, we might be on the verge of becoming a Big 12 site after this year...

You know, you don't really come into this bar for the drinks as much as you do for the crusty characters you find in it...

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Damn straight, Big 12 site...

Porcine · 1 year ago

If you can't beat'em, join'em. Oh wait...

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

Porcine, I think you've completely lost your mind.

Cobia · 1 year ago

I grew up in Miami and have gone to many UM games. Plus both my parents graduatedfrom the U, however I go school ar Auburn. WAR EAGLE....GO CANES!

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

You're not the only schizophrenic fan on here--Rambling Gator comes to mind. He roots equally for two teams...

Then there's Regan, just below this post. His loyalties would comprise their own foursome for golf...

And then there's Tomcat, who has 8 different documented personalities. And all of them root for teams from Texas...

Cobia · 1 year ago

I like Auburn a little more than miami, but it's close. I route for Miami, so long as their interests don't conflict with that of Auburns.

Regan · 1 year ago

hricane23, don't feel bad.

It wasn't just you....it was that darned Fight Song.

I absolutely love GT's fight song. It's my dad-gum ringtone (I have to change it to The Caesars two days each year...)

Also, I had the wrong combination of alcohol and was wearing my white 'Canes visiting jersey. Had I gone with Boddington's and my orange Andre Johnson #5 jersey, it would have been a huge win. All I had were Woodchuck Ambers, though, so I screwed up on the combination.

Pin the blame on me, since I'm already hated for having so many teams. :)

C-DOGG · 1 year ago

Thanks Cane 23....we need all the help we can get against G.tech.

TheMayor · 1 year ago

So I guess your wife's out of town this weekend?

Sounds like fun though...the peeing, burning and burying stuff and peeing again....I can't even imagine that, I can't stop laughing at the thought. Great post.

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Karma and I are well acquainted, Regan. He usually comes calling in late November of every year, at about the time of the GT/UGA game. :-(

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

I'm thinking that this year, the karma, a 30 Ford Model A coupe, might run over the Dawgma...

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

ROTFLMAO!!

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

You know, RG, I had to turn to wiki to find out the model year of the Ramblin' Wreck. I thought it was a '33, but I wasn't sure--you know how pedantic I am. Anyway, I ended up reading the whole entry on it and found out that Georgia has 'kidnapped' the car on two occasions--the last one being back in the 70's.

I find that interesting because if someone tried that sh!t now, they wouldn't be using cute little words like 'kidnapping'. It's called Grant Theft Auto, and no, we're not talking about the video game...

It's actually a really good read, the wiki entry on the Ramblin Wreck. You guys take 5 minutes and read it...

We did a thread on it last year when it got wrecked (literally) to the tune of $30,000 when it was pulling duty in a wedding--yes, they let people have the car in their wedding.

The car was either RG's best man or he and his wife consumated the marriage in the rumble seat. The wiki article didn't specify...

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

...and Reveille from Texas A&M was our maid of honor.

LLL · 1 year ago

Sooners have the advantage playing in Norman and Stoops has publicly instructed his fans to be loud, loud, loud to rattle the quick no huddle offense of Tech.

It should be an awesome game. Harrell to Crabtree is a "thang" of beauty!

May the best team win and then may my Horns beat those pesky Aggies Tday!!

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Shannon got punked-BAD-last night...

I wish Cane Mutiny were still with us...I'd like to get his thoughts on the game...

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

TE, what are you thoughts about Rueben Randle making an official visit to OU this weekend, what school do you think he's leaning towards.....LSU ?? Alabama ??

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

His dad loves him some Alabama...His older brother lives here in Baton Rouge, and he's been coming up for years to hang out...He knows his way around well...Been on a heckuva lot of unofficials...

As far as I know, Ron, he's been an LSU/Bama tug of war...His mother may be up to some funny business, but she & his brother LOOOOOOOOOVE LSU...

Rueben & his father are very tight-lipped, reserved, laid back men...I know RR's very tired of the process already...

When its all said and done, he's a Tiger, in my opinion...

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Well then, all I can hope for is for Bradford to have another 3 to 400 yd/5 TD"s thru the air type day to impress RR as much as we can......it would be nice to have him on board...

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Kid's a silent super-star type...

Whoever ends up with him is going to be blessed...Whether he lines up on the other side of Julio, JoJo LaFell, or out wide for Bradford...

He's a great kid, too...

"BC" · 1 year ago

i would've said LSU a month ago, but because of the recent events that have transpired, i think now it's a dead heat between Alabama and LSU.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Based on what...

I can't WAIT to tell you who my source on RR is...

What's yours...Lemme guess...Bama On-Line?

LMAO!

I can't WAIT to get a response on this one...Please...Humor me, BC...

"BC" · 1 year ago

i have no source.
which is why i said, "i think" instead of "i heard"
reading comprehension?...
you're just so desperate to find something to attack me on in every post i make.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

You're so desperate to make youself a human softball...

I'm still waiting to hear "what transpired"...

Thank you for admitting-for once-you don't know what you're talking about...Not that we didn't already know, and all...

"BC" · 1 year ago

ohhh.
you weren't aware?
LSU got beat by Alabama in their own house while Randle was visiting.
Alabama is ranked #1 in the country.
LSU had to come back to beat Troy.

those events have transpired...
and if you're a recruit seriously considering both schools, why wouldn't you go to:
- the better coached
- the lesser depth at WR
- the #1 team in the country

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

Wouldn't it be easier for you two to buy a couple pitchers of beer and see who can finish first? Sheesh.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Point taken...

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

Honestly, considering what I've been doing all week, that really doesn't sound like a bad idea. I'll buy the first 2 rounds!!!!

Zac · 1 year ago

This is where a T.O. & a bloggers challenge comes in.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Better coached...I didn't know you were still quoting opinion based logic, here...But, do me a favor...Tell me how many Heisman trophy winners and NFL players J-Mac is coaching...

Better yet...how many head coaching jobs as your QB coach had, and how many has ours had? Ours went to BYU, and set up the offense that made Dennis Dixon a Heisman shoe-in prior to his injury (he's in the NFL right now, by the way)...

He also took Matt Flynn from a career backup to a kid who was drafted in the 6th round PAST a 2nd round pick in Brian Brohm to backup Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay...

Our receivers coach has put Dwayne Bowe & Craig Davis in the league as 1st round picks, and JoJo LaFell is currently the #1 WR in the SEC, BC...He'll be back again next year...Why wouldn't you line up opposite the guy that's going to draw the double, EVERY DOWN, in an offense that NOBODY can predict?

You're a team that averages 205 yards a game, and has NOBODY coming back at quarterback next year, and your Offensive Line's gone as well...Tell me exactly whose going to throw it to him and how they're going to have time? Or WHY he'd get any balls his way with the rushing attack and Julio to contend with?

So, he should go where you think the best coaching is, but we've proven the proof isn't in your pudding, and now you think he should go somewhere because he's afraid of competition at WR, and he should go to the #1 team in the country...

Hmmm...It'll be humorous to see you post after Bowl Season...

You'll only have one of those 3 legs to stand on...

JB · 1 year ago

Wow....easy there, bud.

I see that ESPN and Rivals both have Randle leaning U of A......That doesnt surprise me, though, because if i was visiting and the QB who was gonna be throwing to me threw more to the other team, then i would be turned off as well. But, we dont need WR's we have LaFell and Terrence Tolliver for next year anyway. (and we have Russell Shepard coming in...hmmm maybe someone who can throw the ball to the white jersyes)

ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago

we loose 2 on the O line at the end of this year.Caldwell and Marlon Davis all the rest are JRs this year I know Caldwell is a big loss but its not the whole Offensive Line

Bama_Babe · 1 year ago

We're most likely going to lose Andre, too. Yeah, he's a junior, but a potential 1st-rounder...

ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago

True has he made any announcement of his intentions to go to the draft ?

Bama_Babe · 1 year ago

RT73,
Sorry, I just saw this.
No official decision has been announced, but if he has a chance to go in the top 5, I think he's as good as gone. Unfortunately....

LLL · 1 year ago

OU enjoys a huge advantage playing in Norman.

Their crowd noise will have effect on Tech's quick no huddle offense.

It's gonna be a great game!!

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

I hope it's so loud, the Tech players will have to use sign language for a week after the game is over........:-)

LLL · 1 year ago

Just don't forget...

My Longhorns beat you by ten on neutral turf....;-)

My only wish is that we beat the Aggies at our Turkey Bowl this year!!!

You guys work it out up there in Norman.... I'll be watchin'!!!!

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Don't worry, it's burnt into my memory......it could fade away real fast if we end up going to the CCG again....Longshot, but it could happen !!

Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago

Ron, first (and hopefully last lol) time that I will be rooting for OU. They just better not win by a wide enough margin that they pass Texas in the BCS.

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Well believe this or not, but I agree that Texas should and rightfully so, stay ahead of OU because they beat us head to head,,,,but...if the football Gods see it the other way, who am I to argue.......
GO SOONERS..........BOOMER

Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago

Youare all asuuming TECH loses tonight. I love it!!! You will see. 42-33 TECH.

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

TT, I'm not assuming anything, I know it's gonna be a battle, but I will tell you this, Tech better play flawless and no turnovers or there's going to be a three way tie in the south, then you may not love it so much.....

Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago

That sounds about right. Tech is playing better than they did when they played Texas, but I don't think they'll keep the same level in Norman. If Texas had played as well against Tech as they did against OU, they would have beaten Tech worse than they beat OU in Dallas (in other words, I think OU's better)

However, from the part of College GameDay that I watched, the crowd in Norman was silent. Are they just saving it for the game or will this be like playing at a neutral site?

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Stoops called for noise, I think it will be loud..

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

100% agree. Tech has to play lights out, especially on defense. Personally, I'm expecting the Sooner to have it in hand by late 3rd quarter.

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Tyler T, I told you you wasn't gonna love it, that was a serious ass kicking, it's gonna be a long drive home....
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOOMER SOONER

Zac · 1 year ago

HEY! Leave it to Bevo's back!! How ya been?!? Keep'n outta trouble; keep'n the grades up? What's knew in the Buckeye St?

Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago

I'm not sure what's new in the Buckeye, I'm in the state next to it that has those Fighting Irish (which, if my calculations are correct, Texas has tied them for #2 on the all-time wins list at 830). What all have I missed on here? It's been a while...

JB · 1 year ago

I agree.....BOOMER!!!!!

wow...i just said that....

TheMayor · 1 year ago

OU Ron and other Sooners

Wow, what a performance tonight. Congratulations.

It would have taken 12 Pac 10 officials, no operating monitors in the replay booth and 8 blown on-side kickoff calls (not to mention a few blown PI calls) for most teams to even come close to you guys tonight.

I would like to see Florida and OU play somehow, two hottest teams in CFB right now...

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Thanks Mr Mayor, Stoops had the Troops flying high, I hope we can hold that altitude...

"BC" · 1 year ago

i wouldn't be too worried OU_Ron
i think y'all will win by at least 14 points this weekend.
it's a gut feeling.

"BC" · 1 year ago

i'm a genius

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Just out of curiosity, why did you say that OU would win by 14 but on the Pick'em you picked Texas Tech to cover the 7 point spread?

"BC" · 1 year ago

ohhh. that?
i have my secretary do my college pick 'em picks.
i can't believe she picked Texas Tech. what a b****!

TheMayor · 1 year ago

By 5 pm on Saturday, Florida State safety Myron Rolle will find out if he is among the 32 winners of a Rhodes Scholarship. Best of luck to Myron, very impressive.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Do you, or anyone else, believe that there's really any way that they don't give it to him now? He has to be the most advertised Rhodes Scholarship finalist ever. If they don't give it to him, there will be far too much backlash at this point. So, I'd say we can all go ahead and congratulate the guy. He is certainly deserving of respect and applause.

TheMayor · 1 year ago

He doesn't get much press out on the West Coast...

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

A Rhodes Scholar from FSU...

That is news worthy...

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

I don't at all disagree that the guy is deserving, or that the story is news worthy. It certainly is both. I just don't think that there's any way that he doesn't receive it after all of the attention. I could see way too many angles to spin it if he doesn't get it. I just don't think they want to deal with that.

Zac · 1 year ago

I'll be keeping my fingers crossed. This is an inspiration to all of college football, and then some!

TheMayor · 1 year ago

Tiger Joe from Death Valley II

" I just don't think they want to deal with that." I am pretty sure the U of O, that being the University of Oxford and not the University of Oregon, is above all that. However from their own website...

"Intellectual distinction is a necessary but not a sufficient condition for election to a Rhodes Scholarship."

Looks like they need a decent player...

On anothetrnote, as an idiot savant I never knew it was the U of O, I always thought they were OU. Their website states otherwise.

http://www.ox.ac.uk/

TT>OU
UA>OSU
UW>WSU (Willingham tells fans "I told you so")
UM>OSU
PSU>MSU
ME>YOU

TheMayor · 1 year ago

This is exactly why I don't bet on sports...I am a athletic moron! 1 out of five games, nice picks.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

So, I wonder whose going to be Florida's back up quarterback is this week?

I know who its NOT GOING TO BE...

TampaGator · 1 year ago

$%@&$%&@#%&#!!!!!


GO GATORS!!

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

I got that e-mailed to me...just after I responded to you & RG in that other thread...

WTF?

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

But we know he won't be cut from the team, 'cause you said it's a "FACT".

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

LOL...It wouldn't be the first time a kid got charges dropped thanks to the Attorney General in Florida...

We'll see what happens...Great point, though, RG...

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Jeez I'm sick of these kids waisting their potential. I played some ball in HS. I'm 6' 3.5" tall, back then I was fast (sprinter on the track team) and I attended a school with a great football tradition. Two bad knees and a general inability to make cuts prevented me from playing at the next level.

What I wouldn't have given to have possessed half the talent of Cam Newton, Ryan P, Ronnie Wilson, (perpetual parade of fools and tools).

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

It's sort've like the kid born with money, or the man who scratches and claws his way to it...

They both have Corvettes...One looks like the last time it saw a carwash was the day it rolled off the showroom floor...

The other looks like its had a force-field around it...

Folks who are born into something-whether its favor, luxury, money, etc.-typically have a difficult time coming to grips with and learning to appreciate what that something is.

Folks who worked themselves up into it through breaking their own back, and survived off their work ethic? You never have to tell them what they have...They know the amounts in their savings and checking, down to the penny...and they appreciate every dollar like its their last...

Same way with top flight athletes...The kid who has to WORK for it appreciates what he's got...Take a Glen Dorsey for that example...

A kid like Ryan Perrilloux? Always the best, always first, always the star...He always thought that stardom would be enough to buy himself out of any trouble he found himself in. Almost as if he was above accountability for his own actions...

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Well stated.

Zac · 1 year ago

Not that it's right, but don't feel alone. Last week a couple of Mountaineers got in trouble with the law. Another of those bar fight things. I think they need a mentoring program; put a Jr. & Sr. on a freshman to keep an eye on him. Sadly, some upper classmen are even worse than some of the new-bee's.

"BC" · 1 year ago

OSU > Michigan
Arkansas > MSU
LSU > Ole Miss
Oklahoma > Texas Tech
Tennessee > Vanderbilt
Penn St > Mich St

and of course, my upset pick of the week:
Citadel > Florida

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Bleed, that would be the upset of the century, not of the week....:-)

JB · 1 year ago

OSU >>>Michingan
MSU>Ar-Kansas
LSU>Ole MIss
OU>TT
MSU>PSU

UF>>>>>Citadel...hahaha .......

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BEAT MICHIGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zac · 1 year ago

NOOOOOOOOOOOO PROOOOOOOOOBLEM!!!!!!!!!!

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

I DON'T THINK SO EITHER!!!!!! (I FEEL LIKE WILL FERREL WHEN HE HAD HIS VOICE MODULATION ISSUE ON SNL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Zac · 1 year ago

It may have seemed iffy, early on, but it looks like we were proven right.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

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U-T-A-H

Fight Fight Fight!

"BC" · 1 year ago

that's gonna be a great game.
are you going?

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

I will be 2000 miles from that game, on the emerald beaches and white sand of NW Florida.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

U

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UHAUL!!! Moving and storage!!!! Move, pack, ship!!!

:-)

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Awww.... Burn in Heck!!

Zac · 1 year ago

Come on; tell me you didn't at least get a grin outta that one. Besides, he's root'n for your Utes, and your team too. (Shades of My Cousin Vinny)

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

He was grinning! And I'm a pickin'!

Seriously, I'm rooting for the Utes...

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Uhaul - Utah
Aww... Burn - Auburn

If I were upset I woulda worded it differently.

Gosh darn it all to heck, I've had enough of this freaking bull shucks coming from these donkey holes!

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Me? A donkey hole?

Certainly, sir, I will tweek your nose in return for such commentary...

Heaven help you should you have questioned my parentage...

Choose your weapon!

Zac · 1 year ago

Well, at least he didn't say, "Jeeper's Chrysler, you son-of-a-Buick! I'll kick ya in the gas-hole and knock the shift outta ya." Ya know; he's keep'n it civil...like.

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Cheese and rice! You ace-holes use too much fudged-up language!

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Are marsh mellows a weapon?

Zac · 1 year ago

With the right gun, they are. Anyone not ever see those 1/2" PVC marsh mellow shooters?

Zac · 1 year ago

Why not throw in a good ole fashion "da-gum-it" while you're at it. Of course, you could just say "SHOOT!" But, you wouldn't be fool'n anyone. Shoot is $hit w/2 "O's". (Shades of George Carlen.)

Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago

Michigan < Ohio State
Mississippi > Louisiana State (Point spread has been steadily going down....)
Michigan State > Penn State
Florida State < Maryland
Texas Tech > Oklahoma (Woo! Go Red Raiders! Wanna see ya in the NC)
Clemson > Virginia
Tennessee < Vanderbilt (BYE Week 13, Tennessee 7)
Arkansas > Mississippi State (Who cares?)
Duke > VT (My upset pick)

TheMayor · 1 year ago

Hotty Toddy

Looks like you were ready today. Hell yes! Damn Right
Hotty Toddy, Gosh almighty

Great win over LSU!!!

TheMayor · 1 year ago

"Tennessee < Vanderbilt (BYE Week 13, Tennessee 7)"

That's hysterical...Good luck tomorrow, I'm pulling for you guys and the University of Oxford!!!

Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago

Thanks! Appreciate it!

Here's to the Cotton Bowl! A fitting return, too, should we pull it off!

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Games with BCS implications:

Michigan < Ohio State, but wins
Mississippi > LSU
Penn State > MSU
Terps > Noles, FEAR THE TURTLE!
Texas Tech = Texas = Oklahoma, coin flip (guess Oklahoma has to win to get that)
Utah >> BYU, but game will be close
Florida >>>>> Citadel
Boise State > Nevada (If BYU wins this game has BCS implications)
Wake Forest = BC, but all Ranked ACC teams lose.
Pitt = Cincinnati, This could be a BCS playoff round 1.
Oregon State > Arizona
WV > Louisville
UNC > NC State
VA < Clemson, but wins anyways
VT > Duke
UCONN > USF

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

"Michigan < Ohio State, but wins"

There's never been that big of an upset in the history of The Game. You'll be on the wrong side 2 weeks in a row. ;-)

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

42 point favorite USC lose to Stanford last year was much bigger than that would be.

Citadel winning would be a MUCH bigger upset.

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

42-7. OSU. Whaddya think now?

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

48-24!!!!! GO UTES!!!!

WERE GOING TO THE BCS!!!!!

TheMayor · 1 year ago

With all the games that were on today on TV in Northern Calk, I couldn't find your game anywhere. I could get all the obscure games, I even watch Notre Dame lose. I watched the Crapple Bowl, which was about the most entertaining game of the day...but alas I could not find Utah/BYU anywhere. Not even sure if it was on ESPN Gameplan for $129...

Congratulations! I hope those above you cannibalize themselves.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

You did not go to Buffalo Wild Wings, or they were poorly managed.

You needed to have Direct TV's sports pack to get the game on channel 616, 616-1 for HD. ESPN does not have a contract with the MWC, so it would not have been on ESPN Gameplan.

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

LOL! Nice subject change. Congrats. It'll be interesting to see who Utah gets and if they can play with the big boys.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

You asked what I though now, that is what I was thinking.

As for the Ohio State win, congrats! Sucks for Boise State. Of Oregon beats Oregon State, Ohio State will likely be in a BCS Bowl.

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

Yeah, I don't know. It seems like Oregon State is doing what they need to do to win. I don't understand how Penn State beat them so badly.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

I watched that 4th quarter against Arizona. The Beavs really showed a lot of composure there.

That'll be really strange to see a rematch against two teams located clear across the country from each other, assuming OSU makes it to the Rose Bowl.

thebuckstopshere · 1 year ago

I thought we were BCS bound when Oregon St. shanked that extra point against Arizona. The way the game was going and with them having a back up QB in, I thought even if they got the ball back NO WAY do they drive the field for a score. But I was wrong, so I guess we will be pulling for the DUCKS and there spiffy uniforms next week.

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

OU_Ron:
I took the Red Raiders and the 7pts man. Where you at on it? I know you think OU wins but factor in the pt spread and it changes everything. I think OU wins a close one but won't cover.

Now that I think about it, I better go re-visit the picks to make sure the lines haven't done anything funny.

Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

GT, can't bring myself to go against the Sooners, this could be the week where I fall way down the ladder......If our defense decides to show up, it could be bad for the Zoro's.......good luck on the pick'em..

Zac · 1 year ago

I didn't go against em, and I'm not a Sooners fan. Best of luck Ron, and Lennie, and all the rest of you Boomer, Sooner, Schooner types!!!

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Thanks Zac, I'm pretty sure we'll need it.....

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

No, I'm pretty sure you didn't need ANY luck. :-)

Congrats on an impressive win!

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Thanks RG, I honestly thought it would be a close game.....

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

Congrats Ron. Your boys took TT to the proverbial woodshed tonight. I don't think anybody saw it going that way.

Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

especially me..:-)

Zac · 1 year ago

I never saw that coming. I was figguring a 42-34 affair. 65 POINTS!!! Outrageous! Tell ya whut, though, had TX Tech weathered the 1st half to the tune of say 21-7, I think the 2nd half would have been a lot different. I still think your boyz woulda come out on top, but it would have been nip-and-tuck. Great win, Ron, great win!!!

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Thanks Zac, I don't think it would have made any difference who the opponent was, they were gonna get beat and beat bad, I only hope Stoops has em fired up for Saturday.........Happy Thanksgiving, btw

Zac · 1 year ago

Hello again, sports fans, it's time for Zac's ridiculous picks. The only column where you can look up and down and say WTF more than once...in half a second, that iz.

MI at OSU: OK, MI did beat WI, but then lost to Toledo. Buckeyes didn't let me down last week; they won't this week, either.
Citadel at FL: R U KIDD'N ME?!? Ahem…Gators.
IL at N Wstrn: Who'd a thunk after last year that the Wildcats would be ranked 24th and the Illini would be fighting for bowl eligibility. IL
MS at LSU: Nutt's got the Rebels hunt'n, but Tigers win despite the "picks".
BC at Wake: Is there a team in the ACC that wants to win its title? BC in driver's seat; Wake makes game of it. Eagles.
MI ST at Penn ST: If it were in E Lansing I'd say Spartans in an upset. It's in Happy Valley; nuff said. Lions.
Air Force at TCU: Toughest pick of the weekend. Frogs.
Boise ST at Nevada: Win or lose, no NC for Bronco's. Boise.
BYU at UT: 2nd toughest pick of the weekend. Utes (Oh, see Boise ST.)
Pitt at Cinci: 3rd toughest pick of the weekend; BE conference title hopes on the line…for more than just these 2. Pitt.
OR ST at AS: Wildcats manage to win this one.
FSU at MD: Terrapins just may be one of the answers to an earlier question (See BC).
TX Tech at OK: Who would'a thunk it, that this would be the most anticipated game of this week, and arguably this season? Even more anticipated than MI/OSU, no less. I kinda likes trends. Earlier, TX ran a gauntlet consisting of (n)OK, MO, OK St, and @ TX Tech; TX lost the 4th one. Similarly, Tech has run a gauntlet consisting of @ KS, TX, OK St, & tomorrow visits OK. If this looks familiar, looks ain't deceiving. Sooners!!!
WVU at Louisville: 4th toughest pick this weekend. I once jinxed em by not having the courage to pick em. Contrary to popular belief, the Mountaineers have more on the line tomorrow than does Louisville. WVU.

I also like NC over NC St, Rutgers over Army, Clemson over UVA, Purdue over IN, Vandy over TN, WY over CO St, AR over MS St - OK, I don't like ND over Syracuse, but I can't see to pick it any other way - WA St over WA, Tulsa over Tulane, Cal over Stanford, KS St over IA St, VA Tech over Duke, ECU over UAB, MN over IA, and Tomcat - this pick's for you: Rice over Marshall. Enjoy your weekend!!!

shiguy · 1 year ago

OMG!! ARE YOU SERIOUS!! This is the 2nd strait game now that WVU has been getting screwed by the refs hardcore! I will admit that the 2nd play was obviously down before in the endzone but the first? ARE YOU FING KIDDING ME! Even my brother who has no interest or knowledge in football had to call me and say "why wasn't that count as a touchdown?" to which i had to reply "because the refs like the taste of cardinal in their mouth...."

Zac · 1 year ago

So, do our "EER's", given the final score. It's the Card's who ate crow.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

This just in...

If Clemson can beat South Carolina at home next weekend, and if NC State can go to Miami and win, the ACC will have 10 teams in bowl games. These are 2 big ifs, but both are possible. Is there really any question that this is the deepest conference in football?


Edit: If Virginia beats Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, there will be 11 ACC teams in bowl games.

GO TIGERS!!!
GO ACC!!!

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

If bullfrogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their butts every time they jumped.

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

"Deep" is sort of a subjective term in your usage. I mean, would you rather all of your conference teams have a decent record, or would you rather your conference teams that go to bowls, win out against other conferences?

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Who is deeper than the ACC? Certainly not the top heavy SEC, or Big XII.

Win out against other conferences? Since that hardly ever happens, I think it's a very tall order. I believe the Big East did it in 2006 with 4 teams, but that's the only time I can think of it happening in recent memory. The odds are very stacked against a potential 11 teams all winning their bowl games.

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

All I'm saying is your earlier comment reminded me of a pre-season poll. The ACC has had a good football year, so far, mainly playing each other. An exceptional year even, for them. The jury is still out on whether or not that translates into increased strength against other conferences.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Point taken. However, so far it has translated into increased strength against other conferences. The league has had a good showing OOC top to bottom. 11 teams have decent wins against OOC opponents, and Clemson will have to get one in order to make it to a bowl. If 9 or more teams make it to a bowl, and the conference has a good OOC showing throughout the season, I consider that a deep league, and a strong year.

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

Joe, I'm taking your approach from here on out. I hope Ole Piss hangs 50 on us and Arkansas does the same. That way, a defensive coaching change HAS to be made.

Both our defensive coordinators are about as good as Jarrett Lee is throwing a football.

And the speedster (on a track....and in the OPEN FIELD) Trinidon Holiday has had Reggie Bush sydrome too long. He catches the ball and stands around waiting for the field to completely open up as opposed to actually running with the ball. Teams SHOULD NOT be scared to kick the ball to him any longer.

At least Jordan Jefferson is throwing the ball well. It's a shame he had to come in under the circumstances that he did with Lee getting hurt but it is what it is.

We're gonna need another huge 4th quarter to win this one. The only problem is Ole Miss's offense....lol.


Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

I gotta give credit to Ole Miss's defensive line too. I had absolutely no idea they were that unstoppable....

Or is it just us?

Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

Nah... they're front was all up in the grill of the Razorbacks line, too.

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

Kev, any word if Rolle got the Rhodes Scholarship yet? It should've been announced by now right?

ESPN did a nice piece on him during Gameday. I think they said he wants to be a brain surgeon??? LOL......Damn. That's impressive.


Geaux Tigers
Geaux (to another school) DC's

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

He did win it (as I predicted). I wonder if he is actually better than the other 6 finalists that he beat. Oh well. Congrats to him. He's a great story.

TheMayor · 1 year ago

Congratulations to Mr. Myron L Rolle in District 7!!! Welcome to the U of Oxford.

USC1801 · 1 year ago

GT:

He got it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=371...

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

Thx for the info guys. I saw the news on it during the Ok/TT game. That's amazing man. Props to Mr. Myron Rolle. You are in a class by yourself my man.

Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

Porcine · 1 year ago

Yeah Orgeron's players took it to Nutt's playes that day.

Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago

No, its just us.

ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago

Ole Miss is a solid football team this year IMO they will be better next year

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

I definitely think you will see a defensive change during the offseason for your Tigers. Although, I am not at all close to the LSU program, but it makes perfect sense. I think Miles will can the guy and get someone else in there.

I didn't get to see a lot of the game, but Ole Miss's offense seemed to move the ball well. The only think I saw of the LSU offense was a new QB that couldn't seem to get a lot going. Again, this is just from a few 10 minute windows of the game. Is that how the whole game was?

Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago

We just went in and dominated. End of story. LSU has no excuses. Play the players you got, and they did.

"BC" · 1 year ago

Jevan Snead is a future Heisman winner and Super Bowl MVP.

Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago

Don't jinx us. lol

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

Really........super bowl mvp?? All from what you saw tonight? That's one helluva prognostication. Tim Tebow won the Heisman as a sophmore and you haven't blessed him with that distinction yet after watching Jevan Snead, he's suddenly a Super Bowl MVP.

And you wonder why TE slams you every chance he gets? Man stop putting yourself out there like that.....lol. It's pretty easy to get run over by the train if you constantly stand on the damn tracks.

Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

"BC" · 1 year ago

say what you want man, but what i saw today was an NFL QB as a first-year starter.
that kid is the best passer in the SEC right now, and that includes Tim Tebow.

the prediction of Super Bowl MVP is a bit of a gamble, but i have no doubt that he will be a franchise QB someday.

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

HT....I never was making any. You said it correctly. Outplayed and definitely outcoached. Congrats. Ole Miss is no longer a team to be overlooked on the schedule.


Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

Well, the fat lady ain't even warming up yet. We shall see.

GO COCKS!

Zac · 1 year ago

She's not only sung, she's as fat as the margin of victory.

Bama_DevilDog · 1 year ago

Fouth and Twenty -Three on your own 45 yards with over 8 min left, Les goes for it allowing Ole Miss into field goal range. Not to smart, and showing not to much faith in his team.

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

And down by 2 scores.....you gotta try for it that late in the game. Besides, giving back to the Ole Miss offense has kinda proven ineffective to acheiving the desired outcome.

And going for it on 4th and 23 shows ALL the faith in your team that they can convert.

Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

Bama_DevilDog · 1 year ago

4th and 23 shows desperation not faith.

Faith is putting the game on the defense to make a stop. And allowing your offense a chance to execute.

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

Putting it on a defense that hasn't stopped Ole Miss for most of the night? C'mon man. Put your brain in gear before putting your mouth (keyboard) in motion next time.

What is he supposed to wait unitl 2 minutes left to start going for it on 4th down? He always has shown this team that on 4th down, he has faith in them being able to convert. Granted, 4th and 23 is out there but if you show these kids you believe they can convert it, so much the better. And Les has exhibited this from day one. No need to change now.

Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

"BC" · 1 year ago

sorry man. that was a BONEHEADED call no matter how you look at it.

he could've pinned them deep, forced a three-and-out, and started the next drive with great field position.
or
they couldve forced a turnover down there. you never know. what Les Miles chose to do was give his team the worst chance of winning the game.

another interesting tidbit:
the announcer said that when Nick Saban left LSU, he recommended Houston Nutt to take over.
after 2 losses in a row to Nutt, with far more talent, are y'all starting to wish you had taken advantage of the last bit of coaching Saban offered you??

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

"he could've pinned them deep, forced a three-and-out"....

You do realize the defense hadn't done that ALL GAME right? And now all of a sudden he's supposed to think he can get that magical 3 and out?

I swear I feel like I'm talking to a fence post. I'm through with it dude. Agree to disagree.


Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

Bama_DevilDog · 1 year ago

Fence Post?

I hope you liked the outcome.

Porcine · 1 year ago

I wished they would have.

Zac · 1 year ago

Well, golly, gee, I picked ND to beat Syracuse. Wrong again! Crow & Orange Juice never tasted so good together.

USC1801 · 1 year ago

Ain't it sweet? And we get to enjoy NDame's losses again next week. Go USC ! . . . uh, Southern Cal, this time only!

Zac · 1 year ago

Let's see; ND will finish with only 6 wins, so instead of going to the National Championship...Shoot! They really are going to the Gator Bowl, dagum it!!!

USC1801 · 1 year ago

LOL!  Yep, the NC was almost within their reach!

Jake · 1 year ago

So with Ole Miss winning, and if they beat ms. state( sly croom will have his team ready to play, no doubt) wh?at bowl will Ole Miss end up in? Cotton?

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Someone call the cops. There's a felony being committed in Norman, OK right now.

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

Looks like T Tech gonna need a parachute just to keep from falling out of the top ten.

hrposon · 1 year ago

Texas Tech is finding out that playing on the road is not so easy. Although Ole Miss doesn't seem to care where they play.

Zac · 1 year ago

Cinci has just beaten Pitt for the 1st time in their history. With the win they're tied with WVU in the B.E. Should they win out, they own the Tie-Breaker, and would go to the Orange Bowl; WVU would then go to the Gator Bowl. As Cinci plays Syracuse next, it looks as if the Orange Bowl is theirs.

In the infamous words of an ole eye-tal-yun buddy-o-mine, "not so fast, my friend." I'm reminded of a similar circumstance a few years back. WVU had lost earlier in the season and needed to win its last game on a Friday night at Pitt, plus Syracuse had to win at BC. (It was BC's last year in the B.E.) For the most part, WVU controlled the tempo of the game w/Pitt, ran up some good stats, but managed not to score much, including 2 missed F.G."s. Pitt put together a late drive and won 16-13. The following day, Syracuse put a hurt'n on BC in Chestnut hill, resulting in a 3-way tied for the B.E. crown.

Welp, WVU plays at Pitt next Friday night. The following day, Syracuse plays at Cinci. That's the same Syracuse squad that beat ND in S Bend. So, it could happen, just as it happened in 2004; Syracuse could win their last game this year on the road, and help WVU to win the B.E. The point is WVU's players & staff have to forget about what everyone else is doing and concentrate on what they have to do to beat Pitt, not to mention beat S FL the following week, given the Bulls have beaten the Mountaineers twice in a row.

In effect, 3 things can happen: 1) Cinci wins out, and everything else is moot. 2) Cinci loses; WVU wins, and everything else is moot. 3) Both Cinci & WVU lose (just like in 2004); picking a B.E. champion gets real tricky; but WVU won't make the Orange Bowl.

While I would prefer to see scenario #2, I'll settle for #1, so long as WVU keeps winning. Go Mountaineers!!!!!

grover · 1 year ago

This has to be enough for OU to jump TX in tomorrow's BCS poll.

ROLLTIDE_73 · 1 year ago

Even though Texas beat OU?

Regan · 1 year ago

It is fairly close to a fact in CFB that losses matter more the later they are. TEX has lost later than OU, and therefore, it's (effectively) a wash. Never forget the short attention span of AP Voters.

Also, TEX didn't hang 65 on the #2 team in the nation.

I have no idea who should be ranked higher - Texas beat OU, but tonight no one in their sane mind wants a piece of the Sooners...

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

I'm anxious to see all the playoff fanatics rise up if OU is ranked higher than Texas. Can't have it both ways, IMO. Texas beat OU by 10 and has a tougher schedule. The season's not over, but OU **should not** be ranked ahead of Texas after losing on a neutral field.

Regan · 1 year ago

I feel bad for saying this considering that Tyler_Tech posts here now and seems to be a cool guy, but ever since the '02 Tangerine Bowl, I have absolutely and utterly despised Mike Leach with a passion. I have nothing against the Red Raiders, but any day that &%^$#@% gets treated like he treats Division II teams on the scoreboard is a beautiful day as far as I'm concerned.

I enjoyed every single point. Sorry, Tyler...

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

I second that.

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

I agree with the sentiment. Urban's treatment of the Citadel, ranks right up there with anything Mike Leach has done.

USC1801 · 1 year ago

Agreed, although I didn' t see the game and cannot comment on whether or not Meyer kept his first string in the game. If he did, he's playing to the media and voters by running up the score.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

They were in way longer than necessary against a DI-AA opponent in late November. But... it's Tebow's last game in the Swamp, so... whatyagonnado, ya know?

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

Fagedaboudit. Gidanxexyeahsteamready.

Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago

No offence taken Regan. The whole "then stop our offense, if you do not like us scoring" is a two way street. We got exactly what we deserved in this game. Our team was way too cocky showing off that big #2 by their name and it bit them in the behind. I credit OU and their coaching staff though. I even saw a bradford option with murray. They provided plenty of wrinkles in their offense and defense to shut us COMPLETELY down. We relied on the let's just do what we do. I think Leach may have found out, this strategy does not always work, but it did not help either that our whole team forgot how to hit somebody. Especially against a dang good football team on the road.

Regan · 1 year ago

Thanks for not taking it personally, Tyler...

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

BCS Projection:

1) Alabama

BIG GAP

2) Oklahoma
3) Texas
4) Florida

BIG GAP

5) Utah
6) USC
7) Texas Tech
8) Penn State

BIG GAP

9) Boise State
10) Ohio State
11) Georgia
12) Oklahoma State
13) Missouri
14) TCU
15) Ball State

GotliebTX · 1 year ago

I hope everyone remembers that had this been a playoff game (you know that thing everyone wants but can't get), the margin of victory would count for nothing. Oklahoma doesn't get a bye next week because they stomped Tech and it doesn't erase the loss they suffered against Texas. A win is a win. A big win no doubt, but just a single W in the standings.

With that Win, Oklahoma passes Texas Tech in the Win Factor standings. Here is this week's Top 10 Win Factor Standings:

1 TEXAS Big 12 57
2 UTAH M West 55
3 PENN STATE Big 10 49
4 FLORIDA SEC 48 Owns WF2 advantage over OKLAHOMA
5 OKLAHOMA Big 12 48 -
6 OHIO STATE Big 10 46
7 ALABAMA SEC 44
8 TEXAS TECH Big 12 43 Owns WF2 advantage over SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
9 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Pac 10 43 Owns WF2 advantage over BOISE STATE
10 BOISE STATE WAC 43

Bear in mind that the Big 10 and Mountain West have completed play while the remaining conferences still have another round of conference play. Expect PSU, OSU, Utan and Boise State to lose ground over the next two weeks as these games play out.

Some observations about this weekend.

Florida: Playing an FCS team at the end of the season???? What are they thinking? It must play into some urbane (not urban) BCS strategy. I guess everyone else was busy this weekend. It counts for nothing in your Win Factor and probably not a lot more with the coaches and the sportswriters.

Texas Tech: Down but not out. If OU falls against the Cowboys in Stillwater, Tech is back into the Big 12 Title game thanks to their win over Texas. That is, assuming, the Raiders can bounce back against Baylor at home. A win over Missouri would keep them within striking distance of the Longhorns for whatever bowls they end up in.

Oklahoma: Needs to get it done in Stillwater and Kansas City to get to the NCG and more importantly to the top of the Win Factor standings. OSU will not be impressed by the Sooner's win over Tech. They know the Sooners too well for that. And don't forget it was Oklahoma that ended Missouri's national title hopes last season in the Big 12 Championship game. Missouri will be itching for payback. Neither of these games are gimmes for the Sooners.

Utah and Boise State: Nice run for both teams. Now all they need is a thirteenth game between the WAC and MWC champions to elevate one of them into the same level as the Big 12 and SEC champions. Both of these conferences did well this year compared to the Pac 10. Both of these teams are legit contenders in the BCS discussion. A game between these two would elevate the winner's position as compared to the SEC and the Big 12. Maybe the NCAA should review those rules again.

Southern Cal: Sorry guys. You are the best team in a sinking conference. You are just going to have to schedule more tough non-conference games if you are going to stay competitive.

For the complete Win Factor listings , go to www.collegewinfactor.com.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

Anything else you want to promote while you're at it? Kia Rondos for $9,999?

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

Damn that's cheap!

Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

GotliebTX · 1 year ago

Kevin,

My apologies for the site listing. Please strike that post if you can. I did not mean to promote the site but I do mean to promote the idea behind it which I think is relevant to the BCS discussion. Instead of complaining about the lack of a solution, I'm advocating one. I hope that is allowed here.

Again, if I violated your site policies, I apologize.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

The BCS Guru has his predictions for today's polls. To summarize: Tide, Sooners, and Horns... and that just ain't right.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Same as mine, except I have Utah over USC and Ball State at #15 instead of Cincinnati.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

The ACC is now rated as the strongest conference. While still lacking a dominant team, EVERY team has proven that they are no pushover and cannot be overlooked. After being bashed by everyone the first week of the season, it's nice to see that the ACC is proving it's strength, top to bottom.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc08.htm

GO TIGERS!
GO ACC!

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

In case anyone other than me cares at all, the D1-AA (FCS) playoffs have been set.

November 29 at Harrisburg, Virginia
Wofford (9-2) at No. 1 James Madison (10-1)

November 29 at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Colgate (9-2) at Villanova (9-2)

November 29 at Missoula, Montana
Texas St. (8-4) at No. 4 Montana (11-1)

November 29 at San Luis Obispo, California
Weber St. (9-3) at Cal Poly (8-2)

November 29 at Boone, North Carolina (ESPNU/ESPNUHD at Noon ET)
South Carolina St. (10-2) at No. 2 Appalachian St. (10-2)

November 29 at Richmond, Virginia
Eastern Ky. (8-3) at Richmond (9-3)

November 29 at Cedar Falls, Iowa
Maine (8-4) at No. 3 Northern Iowa (10-2)

November 29 at Carbondale, Illinois
New Hampshire (9-2) at Southern Ill. (9-2)

After the first round, a lot of the games will be played when there aren't good D1-A (FBS) games to watch. If you haven't ever before watched a playoff game, they are very exciting. Last year's Championship game featured my Apps beating down Joe Flacco's Delaware Blue Hens for their 3rd straight national title. The best part of all of this is: when it's all over, they know exactly who their champion is.

Porcine · 1 year ago

Too bad UCA isn't eligible yet, Bears v. Grizzlies.

Zac · 1 year ago

WOW! Look at all of those 9-2 teams, pretty impressive. I see JMU is #1 & Appy St #2. The last time WVU played JMU they went on to win the 1-AA title. They were considered to be the best team WVU beat that year. WVU also beat Wofford the season following they're having won the 1-AA title (Check that; I'll have to verify.) Solid group of schools here, one & all. Many could make the jump to the BCS level, if they wanted to. I guess it's a matter of priorities. I think I'd like to see a JMU/Montana final. What say you?

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

My choice for the final would be App State taking down James Madison and exacting their revenge.

I love D1-AA playoffs!

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

I've got divided loyalties in the FCS. Any team from SC first, this year SC State and Wofford. On the other hand, Mr. Jerry Moore is my 2nd favorite coach, and I currently live about an hour down the hill from Michigan's arch-nemesis, Appalachian State.
I'm still not buying that ACC strongest conference thing though. Here's why, statistics very rarely tell the whole story. Get Sagarin to add stats for total home attendance, and strength of recruiting class. You will get a different result then.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

How does total home attendance and strength of recruiting classes have anything to do with the results on the field? It's about conference strength on the field, and nothing else. In that case, statistics do tell the whole story. Thus far in the season, the ACC is the strongest top to bottom. We'll see if it continues.

I'm an App. State fan first and foremost when it comes to D1-AA, and I always pull against Furman and Georgia Southern. With that said, I want ASU to take the title, but I'd love to see Wofford and SC State have some success. It's too bad that they drew the hands down #1 and #2 teams in the country in the first round. SC State is going to get absolutely hammered. Wofford is pretty strong, but JMU will still probably have their way with them. I'll be pulling for the Terriers though.

GO APPS!
GO TERRIERS!

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

I originally took exception to your proclamation that the ACC is the "deepest" conference. You responded with Sagarin's stats that the ACC is the "strongest" conference. Sagarin's whole opinion seems to be based on opponents "strength or strength of schedule". That right there opens the floodgates of subjectivity. I re-iterate, statistical conclusions, belong to he that chooses the statistics. Your basic argument seems to be that the ACC has fielded the strongest teams of any conference this year.
It has been said that the proof is in the pudding. No ACC team is contending for the NC, ergo, the ACC is NOT a particularly strong conference. You can tell Sagarin I said so.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

You responded with Sagarin's stats that the ACC is the "strongest" conference.

What? Where did I respond with that?. I made an isolated comment that Sagarin's rankings, which are completely based off of numbers and results, show that the ACC is the strongest conference as a whole. If you want to refute it, show some numbers. Show any numbers. Show stats. Show some sort of proof that what you're claiming is true. Otherwise, I'm going to go with the guy who is nationally respected for his analysis of football teams' relative strength.

By the way, when I'm responding to a particular statement, I will use the conveniently located "reply" link below that comment.

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

I don't much care for the reply link because it tends to push posts down until they are out of context. Maybe we could go back to numbering posts Kev?

At any rate Cjoe, go up four of your posts, and again in your last post. That's all I've got to say about the subject until the proper time for this discussion comes along. After The Season Ends!

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

So, if predictions don't work for you (which by the way, I'm pretty good at, as you can see by the fact that I'm leading our group in the Pick'em) and talk about current rankings doesn't work for you either, since we need to wait until the season ends, then I must ask, what's the point of discussing anything during the season if nothing is relevant until the season ends?

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

It's not just me. No one else has chimed in to support the ACC as the "deepest", or the "strongest". You seem to be riding a dead horse. But you picked the horse, and the race will not be over, until the season ends. At that point your pony, is going to the glue factory.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Yep, you're right. Simply because no one else has chimed in to support the ACC being the deepest means I'm wrong. No one other than you has chimed in to oppose it. That's probably because Sagarin backs me.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc08.htm

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

Clemson_Joe:

I'll back you up. Even though the ACC may not have any "great teams" - they currently have about eleven teams that will probably be bowl eligable. There is no other conference that rivals the parity that the ACC has, from top to bottom, that the ACC puts on the field. There are many good teams in the ACC. We're gonna see what Clemson, Georgia Tech and Florida State can do against their SEC rivals this coming weekend. It would not surprise me in the least if the ACC doesn't come away with two wins here. Florida is a tough draw for anyone. Let's see if the Seminoles don't give them some trouble. The ACC is a definately underrated conference. I also consider the Sagarin "Predictor Rankings" to be the most accurate source for actual play that has happened on the field.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Thank you. That's exactly my point.

Don't forget about Vanderbilt going to Wake Forest. I think the ACC takes that one. Regardless of the outcome, all 4 ACC vs. SEC matchups are intriguing and should make for some great football.

Usually I've thought highly of Sagarin's predictor as well, but I haven't really followed it this year, so I don't really know how it's fared so far. Have you followed it by any chance?

Tommy, the Pac 10 needs to hurry up and add 2 more teams to have a championship. It's a shame that the Trojans might not get a shot at the conference title this year.

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

Clemson_Joe:

We still get a share of the PAC 10 title - no matter what. That's seven straight titles. It's just that Oregon State goes to the Rose Bowl based on the straight up win.

I'm against the conference Championship playoff game. I think that it is unfair to the team that played and won all year long - just to give a lesser team a chance at an upset. I suppose that it all depends on how you view things. You can see a different perspective under any scenario.

Let's look at the SEC. I don't think that Alabama is the best team and I think that Florida would beat them. This scenario seems to look okay to me. But, Alabama has to play an "extra" game after going unbeaten, and may lose the chance to play for a National Championship. Maybe it is unfair. This one seems to work out because both teams have not played each other, the two best teams reside in opposite divisions, and it seems to be a good showcase to find out who the best team really is.

Let's look at the BIG 12. This will be an unfair scenario for either Texas, Oklahoma or Texas Tech to have to win another game - that the other two do not have to play. Just a hypothetical: if Oklahoma sits at #2 and Texas is sitting at #3, and Oklahoma has to play Missouri and loses, then Texas (by default) will advance to the National Championship game. This will only happen because Oklahoma had to play the additional game. You could reverse the scenario and interchange those two teams. Should Oklahoma lose to OK State - then you could substitute Texas Tech for Oklahoma into the equation. Now, you could give the argument that Oklahoma would have a chance to "cement it's status" as one of the top two teams, but I still think that it is unfair to have to play an additional game while two other teams get the opportunity to "back in".

Now, another thing that bothers me is "division" alignment. I don't neccesarily agree with this concept. I think that the BIG 12 NORTH is much weaker than the BIG 12 SOUTH - and has been all along. For instance, if you were gonna have a BIG 12 Championship game, it should be Texas vs Oklahoma IMO. But, all it does is give the weaker Missouri team, a chance to "upset" somebody and it proves nothing at all in my mind.

How bout the BIG 10? Who would play in that "hypothetical" conference championship? Penn State and Ohio State? Why? Didn't Penn State just beat the Bucks? Why should they have to play again? Why should Penn State's terrific season be jeopardized just so Ohio State could have another chance? It doesn't make any sense to me.

How about the PAC 10? Would anything really make any difference? What do you get? Oregon or Oregon State against Southern Cal? What gain would the PAC 10 have in any playoff game? Zero! Does USC ever get any credit for beating any PAC 10 teams? No! None! What would be the point? Do we even want to go to the Rose Bowl? Not really! USC would rather be chosen as an at-large member at this point in time. We get no respect from beating PAC 10 or BIG 10 opponents ever. A playoff makes no sense for the PAC 10 - period! There is nothing to win and nothing to gain and nothing to lose. There simply is nothing.

Now, for the ACC: alot of the time this playoff seems to make sense. There usually seems to be two qualified teams, from each division, to put up against each other. There never seems to be a Nationally dominant team that is at risk by losing. No, in this case there is always the automatic BCS invite as an incentive. The playoff seems to work well in this conference.

As for the Big East: I don't know what you could do here. They are four teams short and they all play each other anyway. Why have another game to let somebody "pull the upset"?

So, all in all, I think that the "extra game" is a detriment for any team that has already had a great season. Usually, there is not a whole lot to gain, and most often it seems - you can lose a game and lose your chance at a National Championship. This can allow for some team that didn't play - to sneak in the back door. The Big 12 has the perfect scenario for this right now.

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

The ACC only has "depth", because it lacks exceptional teams. You need numbers to see it? Here are some.

The top three teams in the SEC have a combined 30 wins to date. The top three in the ACC have 24 wins to date. An obvious difference of six. Give the top three, six more wins, spread six more losses around the rest of the ACC. BAM! Just like that, a minimum of two less ACC teams going to a bowl. A conference without big winners, makes everybody look better. That is all there is to this chimera of ACC "strength", or "depth".

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

That "chimera" of ACC strength and depth was not only reflected by the new Sagarin rankings, but also on the field this past weekend. The ACC went 3-1 against the SEC. Like it or not, the worst team in the ACC is Duke, who not only is not a pushover but has a win over the 7th best team in the SEC. The only conference with a valid argument as being stronger than the ACC is the Big XII. The SEC is simply top heavy, and that is all.