And well you should. I'm here to tell ya; your boyz put on a show against a decent team. Cinci is more than a step above either Miami (the other one) or OH U, and neither MI nor OSU AT HOME could distinguish themselves well against either team. In fact, both Miami & OH U were their own worst enemy, more so than their respective foes. Clearly, like WVU, MI still has a lot of work. OSU, they were looking ahead, which is never a good idea, especially at home in front of their fans.
Ramblin' Gator
· 1 year ago
South Carolina, quietly walking out my front door, nervously stumbling on her high heels, hair in a pile and cab fare in her hand. She acknowledges the neighbors, out walking their dogs, with modesty and embarrassment. As she bends to enter the cab, she realizes her panties are on inside out.
Could be worse. At least she didn't have an Adam's apple.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Good post RG Your post plants a visable image and reminds me of a country song. If your Daddy was the Devil- and your Mama was a witch- they'd be proud of you- cause your a crazy bitch. I heard that song at Akie Blue's in Bandera Texas. Or the Willie song went to bed at 2 witha 10 and woke up at 10 witha 2.
Zac
· 1 year ago
Good morning guys & dolls. I'm here to take my licks like a man. What else is there to do on a fine slightly pre-fall morning? So, let's get down to it.
I'm SALTY!!! Now, I'll take a step back. ECU played one hell of game. They played it just about text-book, with regards to controlling the clock, keeping WVU & Pat White off the field, not to mention their defense looked great.
How could this happen against the 8th ranked team in the country? Well, for starters, much as I hate to say it, perhaps WVU isn't as good as advertised. Perhaps, ECU is actually that good, at least at home; we haven't seen them on the road this year; some teams for some reason aren't as good on the road.
Seriously, though, Pinckney & company played a great game. Were there bad calls? Yes. Were there questionable calls? Yes. Were there no calls? Yes. Would it have mattered in the long run? Not on your life. ECU would still have won this game; the score might have been a little closer; maybe 13 pts instead of 21. Who cares? It's still a great win for ECU against arguably a decent football team.
Why do I continue to say WVU is decent? OK, I knew teams would have success against WVU's defense. How much success was the question. And, given what I saw, including a lot of LB play, over-running the play in progress, there's still hope. As expected, some of the new guys in the 2ndary made some mistakes, as did one of the more veteran players. These are things which can be corrected, and WVU has an extra week before traveling to CO.
WVU still has an offense which returned 9 starters. The starting offensive linemen are 3, 4, & 5 year letterman, and they're deep at each position. That they didn't at all distinguish themselves Saturday still burns me; I can only hope they had a bad day. (It seems as though they're good for 2 of those in a season.) The offense still returns Pat White & Noel Devine, two of the speediest players in all of college football. Yes, the coaching staff is new, but the concept of play remained the same; not to mention the pundits declared WVU to have one of the best coaching staffs around, save for the question mark at HC. That said, where were the new wrinkles to the offense? Where were the passes off play-action fakes? Where were all those triple read-option plays, which put WVU on the map to begin with? Where were the toss sweeps, or fake-reverses, and reverses? Where were Alric Arnett, Will Johnson, and Jock Sanders, who were the recipients of most of Pat White's passing attention last week? Most of all, where was the veteran blocking?
Disappointed doesn't begin to scratch the surface of what I'm feeling right now. I mean, 3 seasons ago, OSU replaced 7 starters on their defense, went into Austin, TX, and won. Saturday, WVU went into Charlotte, NC, with a veteran offense and predominantly new defense and lost by 3 TD's. They played ECU, not TX. A few months back, in one of Kev's threads, I expressed fear that WVU could become this year's Louisville. What with trips to CO, Pitt, & UConn, not to mention hosting Auburn, Cinci, & S FL, we may be seeing my fears come to life. If things don't get a lot better from here, my fears will come to life.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 1 year ago
I caught the 4th quarter of that game Zac and the offense just looked anemic. Hard to believe...
Zac
· 1 year ago
The only good news that I took from that game were the holding calls against ECU. There weren't as many as were called against OK when WVU played them in the Fiesta Bowl, but there were still too many, if you're Skip Holtz. Basically, that did indicate, ECU had some trouble with WVU's speed on defense. To their credit, most of the time, they had no trouble making up for the mistake on the following play.
Which brings me back to what I've said before. If the Big East doesn't offer ECU an invite, there's something rotten in Denmark.
shiguy
· 1 year ago
agreed. As much as i would like to say that entire game was because of officiating and WVU not showing up to play (which both of those were there) East Carolina showed up to play. Their players were spirited, fired up from begining to end, WVU was not. I don't know if they were thinking back to last years' wooping of East Carolina or what but there just didn't seem to be any emotion in WVU's players next to maybe White and a select others (till the lead became rediculous that is).
gatorhippy
· 1 year ago
Zac, JMHO but...
I believe the x-factor in WVU's success the past three seasons has been Schmitt...
He made White and Slaton look good with his blocking and his ability to collapse the defense on the full back in the triple option which opened up the perimeter for White and Slaton...
And if the defense didn't collapse on him, Owen made them pay as he was a home threat...
Again JMHO but it certainly seems like they're missing that quality at FB badly...
Zac
· 1 year ago
I think you got it in one right there, GH. Presumably, this Will Johnson was supposed to work as that sub, but that I could see..., well, point is I couldn't. He simply disapeared.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 1 year ago
I can't believe I drank that much--but luckily, only a little hangover of four turnovers--three fumbles and a pick--two inside the red zone. Try that with someone other than Southern Miss and you'll get your ass kicked. Normally when Auburn commits that many mistakes, it's a big fat L in the column.
Only around 380 yards of offense--about 250 through the air, which is good, but we needed to have much more on the ground. Defense looked solid--they could have pitched another shutout had the offense not turned the ball over deep in our territory and USM hadn't been especially adroit at converting 4th and 10 and 4th and 16...
I checked the picks--only 12 of 20. It was definitely a little tougher this week...
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
42-21
2-0, opponent w/l: 2-2, both loses to us and both wins over (granted bottom of) FBS teams.
1-0 conference.
I thought it was a good weekend.
"BC"
· 1 year ago
wow. i had a rough week this week.
10/20
my two worst picks: WVU, and Ohio St.
can you say OV-VER RA-TED!!!
Zac
· 1 year ago
BC, not that I can spell well under most circumstances, but this is one week where I wish I couldn't spell, let alone read, English.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Man I told you right here to pick ECU and Ole Miss Nutt didnt win, but They beat the spread I lost on UCG thought they coulda scored more, same with the Cinn vs OU game. Congrats to Vanderbilt over USC and Rice over Memphis The USF vs UCF was really a tossup, and nobody including myself a few years ago woulda given this game much consideration and now its bigger than UF vs UCG
"BC"
· 1 year ago
i did pick ole miss. i thought that theyd win, but at least they beat the spread.
you can look at everyone's picks on yahoo by the way. then come on here and talk smack haha.
shiguy
· 1 year ago
OVVER???? That's fine although right now I think the same of Alabama but we'll see in the coming weeks.
"BC"
· 1 year ago
i wasnt trying to take a cheap shot at WVU. Noel Devine is one of my favorite players, but nobody can argue that WVU was vastly over-rated. I think Alabama is ranked right on the money. after week one i thought we were a shoo-in to win the west, but after week two i have a different outlook: 1. LSU T2. Alabama T2. Auburn 4. Ole Miss 5. Mississippi State 6. Arkansas
although, i haven't changed the bottom 3 since preseason.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Heck BC I stunk it up too thought I picked ECU apperantly not-guessed I rushed through with my picks, the spread killed me this past week. What happened to these so-called favorites-teams who won but couldnt cover the spread I lost with BYU, Auburn, Ohio St and Utah When it comes to picking winners- no problem, but trying to pick underdogs to at least loose by less than the spread-I got killed again Miami Hurricanes didnt see the game I was watching the USF vs UCF KU vs La Tech- these the same bulldogs that beat Croom's Bulldogs-they got Manginoed Cinn Bearcats pride of the Big East first half purty good what happened, did yall lay down Az St vs Stanford These guys are up & down- hot & cold- thought Stanford woulda done better Ya I can pick winners purty good but the spread is killin me BTW Congrats to the Arkansas Razorbacks yall beat a good team
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
Again, that is the last time I make my pics before Thursday. I had no idea the lines could change that much in one day, and I didn't bother to look again. Satis male, et mea culpa.
Porcine
· 1 year ago
You can wait until Friday afternoon at the latest.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 1 year ago
Kev: Home early last night? Leave the game at halftime? Might've been a little different had you guys played the other multi-directional Carolina...
Kevin @ Fanblogs
· 1 year ago
True. True. But... we haven't seen a W in a while. With that many people out, it was like a treadmill exercise - it felt good, you think you did something, but... you didn't really go anywhere.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 1 year ago
That's the best analogy I've heard in weeks...
I'm going to borrow that one, if you don't mind. It may take a while to find a good place to insert it, but I will...
U.of S.C.1978
· 1 year ago
I already strutted mine on another thread or two. There are a lot of games left this season. Maybe some of us, can help some of you, to strut a little, later in the season. As you have so graciously helped some of us, to strut this week. LOL
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
Prediction on this weekend's game against the Bulldogs?
PittsburghTiger
· 1 year ago
UGa wins, Michigan wins and So. Cal beats up on the Buckeyes
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Okay boys Ark @ Texas ---------- UT Stanford @ TCU-------TCU UCLA @ BYU-----------UCLA Cal @ Maryland---------Cal Rice @ Vanderbilt-------Rice S Miss @ Ark St-----------Ark St Wash St @ Baylor--------BU E Car @ Tulane---------E Car West Vir @ Colo--------Colo KU @ USF--------------KU New Mex @ Tulsa-----Tulsa SMU @ Texas Tech--------are you kidding !!
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 1 year ago
Are you sharing your picks in the contest, TC? Are you even in it? I didn't see 'Tomcat' in there. I guess it was too complicated for most of us to just use the same old moniker that we use to post...
I'm tied at 15th. It could be worse though--I could be Zac!!!!
At least I'm ahead of the War Eagle Birmingham guy. As president of the franchising system, I have to set a solid example.
In case anyone's interested, we still have War Eagle El Paso and War Eagle Miami/Dade available...
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
WEA, your boys let me down this weekend, as I'm sure they did you too. I knew the Golden Eagles were a quality team but your boys were home so I took 'em...oh well.
Didn't get to watch the game so I don't know what the deal was. We're still electrically challenged...lol. At least they won. Good for the SEC. Ole Piss covered for me though. The one that hurt the most was Central Florica. I picked 'em then went back and changed it to South Florida....like a dumb azz.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 1 year ago
Two turnovers in the red zone kept the scoring down. Two other turnovers gave USM field position in some unlikely locations. Otherwise, it wouldn't have been that close. I didn't think we would cover, but for the wrong reasons, (as it turned out...)
Evidently, USM has quite the high powered offense, so our defense did quite a job...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69VsAEafSgM
Could be worse. At least she didn't have an Adam's apple.
If your Daddy was the Devil- and your Mama was a witch- they'd be proud of you- cause your a crazy bitch. I heard that song at Akie Blue's in Bandera Texas.
Or the Willie song went to bed at 2 witha 10 and woke up at 10 witha 2.
I'm SALTY!!! Now, I'll take a step back. ECU played one hell of game. They played it just about text-book, with regards to controlling the clock, keeping WVU & Pat White off the field, not to mention their defense looked great.
How could this happen against the 8th ranked team in the country? Well, for starters, much as I hate to say it, perhaps WVU isn't as good as advertised. Perhaps, ECU is actually that good, at least at home; we haven't seen them on the road this year; some teams for some reason aren't as good on the road.
Seriously, though, Pinckney & company played a great game. Were there bad calls? Yes. Were there questionable calls? Yes. Were there no calls? Yes. Would it have mattered in the long run? Not on your life. ECU would still have won this game; the score might have been a little closer; maybe 13 pts instead of 21. Who cares? It's still a great win for ECU against arguably a decent football team.
Why do I continue to say WVU is decent? OK, I knew teams would have success against WVU's defense. How much success was the question. And, given what I saw, including a lot of LB play, over-running the play in progress, there's still hope. As expected, some of the new guys in the 2ndary made some mistakes, as did one of the more veteran players. These are things which can be corrected, and WVU has an extra week before traveling to CO.
WVU still has an offense which returned 9 starters. The starting offensive linemen are 3, 4, & 5 year letterman, and they're deep at each position. That they didn't at all distinguish themselves Saturday still burns me; I can only hope they had a bad day. (It seems as though they're good for 2 of those in a season.) The offense still returns Pat White & Noel Devine, two of the speediest players in all of college football. Yes, the coaching staff is new, but the concept of play remained the same; not to mention the pundits declared WVU to have one of the best coaching staffs around, save for the question mark at HC. That said, where were the new wrinkles to the offense? Where were the passes off play-action fakes? Where were all those triple read-option plays, which put WVU on the map to begin with? Where were the toss sweeps, or fake-reverses, and reverses? Where were Alric Arnett, Will Johnson, and Jock Sanders, who were the recipients of most of Pat White's passing attention last week? Most of all, where was the veteran blocking?
Disappointed doesn't begin to scratch the surface of what I'm feeling right now. I mean, 3 seasons ago, OSU replaced 7 starters on their defense, went into Austin, TX, and won. Saturday, WVU went into Charlotte, NC, with a veteran offense and predominantly new defense and lost by 3 TD's. They played ECU, not TX. A few months back, in one of Kev's threads, I expressed fear that WVU could become this year's Louisville. What with trips to CO, Pitt, & UConn, not to mention hosting Auburn, Cinci, & S FL, we may be seeing my fears come to life. If things don't get a lot better from here, my fears will come to life.
Which brings me back to what I've said before. If the Big East doesn't offer ECU an invite, there's something rotten in Denmark.
I believe the x-factor in WVU's success the past three seasons has been Schmitt...
He made White and Slaton look good with his blocking and his ability to collapse the defense on the full back in the triple option which opened up the perimeter for White and Slaton...
And if the defense didn't collapse on him, Owen made them pay as he was a home threat...
Again JMHO but it certainly seems like they're missing that quality at FB badly...
Only around 380 yards of offense--about 250 through the air, which is good, but we needed to have much more on the ground. Defense looked solid--they could have pitched another shutout had the offense not turned the ball over deep in our territory and USM hadn't been especially adroit at converting 4th and 10 and 4th and 16...
I checked the picks--only 12 of 20. It was definitely a little tougher this week...
2-0, opponent w/l: 2-2, both loses to us and both wins over (granted bottom of) FBS teams.
1-0 conference.
I thought it was a good weekend.
i had a rough week this week.
10/20
my two worst picks:
WVU, and Ohio St.
can you say OV-VER RA-TED!!!
Nutt didnt win, but They beat the spread
I lost on UCG thought they coulda scored more, same with the Cinn vs OU game.
Congrats to Vanderbilt over USC and Rice over Memphis
The USF vs UCF was really a tossup, and nobody including myself a few years ago woulda given this game much consideration and now its bigger than UF vs UCG
i thought that theyd win, but at least they beat the spread.
you can look at everyone's picks on yahoo by the way.
then come on here and talk smack haha.
Noel Devine is one of my favorite players, but nobody can argue that WVU was vastly over-rated.
I think Alabama is ranked right on the money.
after week one i thought we were a shoo-in to win the west, but after week two i have a different outlook:
1. LSU
T2. Alabama
T2. Auburn
4. Ole Miss
5. Mississippi State
6. Arkansas
although, i haven't changed the bottom 3 since preseason.
What happened to these so-called favorites-teams who won but couldnt cover the spread
I lost with
BYU, Auburn, Ohio St and Utah
When it comes to picking winners- no problem, but trying to pick underdogs to at least loose by less than the spread-I got killed again
Miami Hurricanes didnt see the game I was watching the USF vs UCF
KU vs La Tech- these the same bulldogs that beat Croom's Bulldogs-they got Manginoed
Cinn Bearcats pride of the Big East first half purty good what happened, did yall lay down
Az St vs Stanford These guys are up & down- hot & cold- thought Stanford woulda done better
Ya I can pick winners purty good but the spread is killin me BTW
Congrats to the Arkansas Razorbacks yall beat a good team
I'm going to borrow that one, if you don't mind. It may take a while to find a good place to insert it, but I will...
Ark @ Texas ---------- UT
Stanford @ TCU-------TCU
UCLA @ BYU-----------UCLA
Cal @ Maryland---------Cal
Rice @ Vanderbilt-------Rice
S Miss @ Ark St-----------Ark St
Wash St @ Baylor--------BU
E Car @ Tulane---------E Car
West Vir @ Colo--------Colo
KU @ USF--------------KU
New Mex @ Tulsa-----Tulsa
SMU @ Texas Tech--------are you kidding !!
I'm tied at 15th. It could be worse though--I could be Zac!!!!
At least I'm ahead of the War Eagle Birmingham guy. As president of the franchising system, I have to set a solid example.
In case anyone's interested, we still have War Eagle El Paso and War Eagle Miami/Dade available...
Didn't get to watch the game so I don't know what the deal was. We're still electrically challenged...lol. At least they won. Good for the SEC. Ole Piss covered for me though. The one that hurt the most was Central Florica. I picked 'em then went back and changed it to South Florida....like a dumb azz.
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
Evidently, USM has quite the high powered offense, so our defense did quite a job...