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I've lived it for over thirty years...
And Starkville is traditionally treacherous for UF squads...
That's just funny right there. That one got a good rise out of me, and I really have no problem at all with what they were doing.
I don't really find it funny when cops abuse their authority, trample peoples' rights, commit crimes and then are let off numerous times by fellow officers of the law...
A few years back a group of guys egged a property that a buddy of mine owned. Their prank caused some minor damage, but truthfully only required about 30 minutes of clean up. He had surveillance on the property and was able to turn them in. They basically received what I would refer to as a "stern talking to" from the authorities. My friend was angry, but it didn't happen again, so it's all water under the bridge. It's probably a much lighter punishment than they deserved, but considering most of the populous can readily identify a criminal in their neighborhood that the police don't or can't do anything about, it certainly seems par for the course.
First who's ever the favorite coming out of the SEC is by default the overall favorite. Likewise your Big12 fav takes the number two spot. You always put USC in the top 5 because you never know if they will go undefeated or not. You throw in some potential upsets or coin flips in terms of who might win the SEC or Big12 races. Add some dark horses with a legitimate shot based on their conference affiliation. Then to top it off throw a bone to the ACC. And presto, a pretty simple formula if you ask me.
No real surprises here, there hasnt been a legit shot for someone other than the perennial powerhouses to win it all in years. The last team I remember that fit that bill and everyone was talking about was USF.
NBC!
King Hippo!
Lou Holtz!
Touchdown Jesus!
America's Team!
Really I just don't see how you can have all of these things and not win. I think it's time to suck it up and put some serious money on it.
Seriously though, it might actually be a better bet than betting on our financial institutions. Maybe the Domers will get a gov't bailout, too.
Sorry for the vulgar imagery - I'm just fed-up with this recurrent nonsense.
ND had no business in any discussion about BCS. Its the sort of conspiracy that ESPN has with its sports writers I guess. N.D. hasn't won a bowl game in ten friggin years jeez- having ND on the list causes the writer to lose credibility with the reader. BS is BS no matter how you serve it.
I don't personally attack, but I wonder what Weis's player maybe saying under their breath when Weis mention them being in top condition.
I am not sure Bosie State would be ahead of a one loss MWC team.
I would put the MWC champion in their place. I firmly believe, building on last year, if TCU, Utah or BYU go undefeated they will be in the National Championship Game.
BYU has the toughest road with OOC Oklahoma and FSU (plus Tulsa and Utah State)
TCU gets some tests with Virginia and Clemson (plus Texas State and SMU)
Utah has it relatively eazy with Oregon and Louisville (plus San Jose State and Utah State)
This year is the best pre season chance for a BCS at large team to qualify for the National Championship game in the history of the BCS. I am expecting to see the first 1 loss MWC team qualify for a BCS bowl this year.
I'm curious to know what you think of UNLV, probably not in the BCS picture but I think they're a team that can make a splash in 2009, they were 5-7 last year and return all their key offensive players as well as eight defensive players, they host Oregon State and I think they can easily knock them off.
To be in the BCS picture you need to be a 10+ win team. UNLV when 3-1 out of conference and 2-6 in conference. I don't see UNLV being anywhere near a 10 win team in 2009 but 3 OOC wins would be a great help the conference. Last year the MWC went 22-12 vs. FBS teams. With 30 such games this year the MWC needs to win 20, the conference play will work itself out.
Wyoming and New Mexico may get beat regularly in conference but they win out of conference. Does this mean they are weak or speak to the strength of the conference as a whole?
The biggest weakness is SDSU. The MWC can't lose games to teams like Cal Poly.
It is not like Oregon is Oklahoma.
We will see September 19th how you measure up in Eugene. I wouldn't look past the Ducks...
It should be a good test for both teams, and a good game for any fan of college football. I am optomistic both will be in the top 25 at the time.
Corwin Brown will coach the team the rest of season despite Lou Holtz's begging to do it... They'll go 7-5 & play North Carolina in the Gator Bowl...
Jan 8, 2010, Weis announces he's retiring due to medical issues...
Jan 10,2010, ND hires Urban Meyer & pays him $5 million per year...
Hilarious...
but i think they will have a good season this year, and upset some big teams, sorta like last year.
I laughed... really. While I don't expect a title, I certainly like our chances now more than ever.
By the way... there aren't that many big teams to upset, once you're at the top. ;)
I was just talking with a buddy of mine up in P-Cola about this and we both agreed that the Rebs are probably the strongest team in the West...
And he's a freakin' Bammeroid...
personally, i see arkansas as being just as tough as ole miss this year.
alabama and lsu will still be top dogs. you can bet on that.
BUT, the Rebs will NOT win a NC next season. no way. no how.
they simply lack the talent and depth required.
alabama is still a year away in that department. and that's after 2 #1 classes in a row, AND having more talent than ole miss even before Saban got here.
Ole Miss is a WAYS off from a NC.
I'm not saying we'll win it, but chill. We've got our talent.. and more coming in.
honestly, i could see some kind of 3 way tie in which Ole Miss takes Bama, Bama takes LSU, and LSU takes Ole Miss.
i dont take issue with Ole Miss winning the west, or even the SEC, but the NC is completely different. that's saying y'all will have the best team in the country next year.
i know y'all have Jevan Snead, and aside from Tebow, he's the best QB in the SEC next season, but it's the whole team, from the LBs to the DLs to the OLs to the HBs and DBs. i just don't think Ole Miss has that quality championship depth yet.
You never know who will stand out at the QB position
Texas,Ole Miss,Utah,UGa,TTech,Missu,KU all had Texas QB's last season
Hookem-Horns
thanks for the confidence boost.
Nobody in the last 10 years, that's for sure...
2001 - Rohan Davey/Matt Mauck (5th year starter & his backup)
2002 - David Greene (RS Soph)
2003 - Matt Mauck (3rd year Junior QB)
2004 - Jason Campbell (5th year multi year starter)
2005 - DJ Shockley (5th year experienced starter)
2006 - Chris Leak (4th year senior starter)
2007 - Matt Flynn (5th year senior starter)
2008 - Tim Tebow (3rd year junior starter)
Hmmm...
he started "multiple games"
yeahhhh.
well mcelroy will have started in the ADay spring game which will be televised nationally on ESPN. sooo yeah.
Mcelroy has been in the system for a WHILE now. i think he will actually do better than matt flynn did for yall and i think after the 2010 season he will get drafted in the first 3 rounds.
so you can say whatever but look at a guy like jevan snead. he was more than adequate to win the SEC championship game last year.
He also STARTED our Bowl game during his RS Junior year, and won MOP on Offense after he tore up Miami.
0wn4d again, B_C...
you claimed he started "multiple games," right TE?
you were wrong, right TE?
please try your best to answer correctly. although, i know that's not easy for you.
TE, you're like a cancer to fanblogs. you rarely have anything but fasle information and unwarranted pretentiousness to offer.
They have more talent stockpiled along their lines-probably the most important position on either side of the ball, as I'm sure your late season swoon may (or may not have) taught you-than anyone in the conference.
Their QB position-short of Timbehovah in Gainesville-is the best in the conference, bar none.
Their RB's have some good talent, as well. They will have a QB who can direct an offense, a line that can protect him, and an offense that can control the clock.
On defense, I think teams will have to execute down the field against them. Their talent on the line will allow them to not to gamble with secondary blitzes, which means their linebackers & secondary will sit back in coverage.
I look for a strong season out of Ole Miss.
But, I await you breaking down their depth chart for me.
Knowing how closely you follow your own team [guffaw] I await a response with baited breath...
i think it's safe to say that Ole Miss doesn't have that at all.
Ole Miss lost to Vanderbilt last season. people quickly forget that just because they have a returning hot-shot QB.
So, CAN Ole Miss win the NC? You Betcha! WILL Ole Miss win the NC? Don't know. Neither do you. (OK, it's fun guess'n; I'll give you that...)
However, "undefeated" does not apply to the Gators because of the "Gator Choke"...
It is unavoidable and even something that Tim "LBJ" Tebow cannot save UF IMO...
It is a law of nature and cannot be stopped...
In fact i believe AU will beat them. We held down Snead last year and if we had any kind of offense at all we would have won that game.
I think they likely look past us just like everyone will this year and we will surprise a few people Ole Miss being one.
it breaks my heart to tell you this, but this isn't the same Auburn of the last 6 years...obviously.
Auburn's in a hole.
talent-wise, depth-wise, etc
i honestly don't understand all of the optimism in Auburn. y'all didn't have a QB worth a damn last year, and as far as i know, y'all have the same QBs from last season.
i think the only position auburn has is HB, but even that is slowly dwindling.
not even Pete Carrol, Nick Saban, and Urban Meyer combined could get Auburn to 8 wins next season.
oh yeah, and y'all have Gene Chizik.
The same team with three straight top 15 recruiting classes will have no talent and no depth?
Granted, you may be right, because I don't put much faith in these recruiting polls...
But YOU do, and so does the whole Bama nation.
But you only use those results when it suits you and ignore them when it does not.
Please tell me how many wins Auburn will have this year so that I may remember that prediction as well.
I assume from the strength of your last point that you feel it will be significantly under eight...
Pete Carrol,Urban Meyer or Paul Bryant couldn't win at Iowa St
Chizek will have the Tigers back in the mix again
Whats going on in Starkville?
Chizik drove the program into the ground, and got picked up by Auburn after losing his last 10 games in-a-row.
like i said, i CAN'T understand the optimism. actually, yeah i can. it's the offseason...
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/big...
You wanna rephrase that?
i'm saying it's not like iowa state was used to winning 2 and 3 games a season.
i think they were pretty happy that Chizik hit the road.
Funny how short their view of "long term" is...
Seneca Wallace & Sage Rosenfels are perhaps the biggest calling cards the program's ever produced, and yet they were "accustomed to appearing in and winning bowl games."
...and no, BC, two bowl wins in a decade is not some sort of winning tradition...
i'll spell it out for you.
in response to the auburn argument for chizik that "nobody can win at iowa state":
- in the 6 seasons prior to gene chizik's arrival there, they appeared in 5 bowl games
- chizik won 5 games in 2 seasons there as head coach.
- gene chizik is NOT a good coach.
- gene chizik did WORSE than his predecessor at Iowa State.
get it?
aghhhhh TE. youre SO obtuse!
If youll remember even the previous coach only won 5 games his first two years there and Chizak inherited a team that only one 1 big 12 game the previous year.
But honestly i dont care what you think
B_C calling anyone obtuse, much less not capitalizing either sentence in the paragraph where he calls me out for being so.
Kotex_Crimson...
In the six seasons prior to Nick Saban's arrival, how many bowl games did you appear in & win?
Compared to his predecessor, does Nick Saban have more, less, or the same amount of 7 win seasons, 10 win seasons, & Divisional Championships?
After answering the prior question, please apply your logic regarding Gene Chizik as a head coach to a comparison of your last two head football coaches.
I'm using the same metrics, facts, & figures as you are. So, if you want to try to use something else, then be my guest. But, just realize that the second you DO go to another set of metrics, you've just defeated your own argument against Gene Chizik here, Kotex_Crimson.
[cue B_C non-response here]
Actually they are accustomed to winning only 2 or 3 games. In fact in the last 15 years they have won 3 or less games 8 times.
We wouldnt even be having this conversation had Chizak been hired straight from his DC job at Texas.
His biggest mistake was taking the Iowa State job in the first place.
And as for being optimistic. Well id say he did a great job recruiting giving the circumstances and he put together a pretty solid young coaching staff.
So are we going to win it all? not likely,will we turn some heads ? no doubt. We have way to much defensive talent to not give ourselves a shot at every game.
2002 -------7-7
2003---------2-10
2004---------7-5
2005--------7-5
2006 ------4-8
IA St plays the B-12 North teams every year and alternates with 3 south teams like OU,OK st,BU,UT and TTech-- hard place to win with Iowa,Nebraska, Colo,KU and Missu on your schedule every year
Chizik did not drive the program in the ground- since 2002 the best season they had was 7-5 and still lost to Baylor
27-35 in the 5 years prior to coach Gene's arrival.
that equates to more than 5 wins per season.
chizik won 5 games in 2 seasons
AND
ended his tenure there with 10 straight losses.
i AM RIGHTTTTTTTTTTT!
In the XII 12 wins aint enough 8 or 9 and they think somethings wrong with the program-Iowa st had some moments like a win over Iowa or A&M on occasion, but they got whuped regularly by Neb,Ok,Tex etc etc
KU,Missu and OK st have all improved- when looking at the XII which ones were they supposed to win?
Iowa St is in an area heavily recruited by B-10/11 schools and is left with the left overs, trying to compete with the Texas & Oklahoma schools.
They are usually at the bottom of the XII north
or at least had one.....before chizik.
Check CFB datawarehouse someone else provided a link-check it out for yourself.
I got my stats from a reliable source
Not trying to rattle your cage BC, but that long tradition of winning championships must be in something other than football....pingpong perhaps ??
last bowl win 04 over Miami OH 17-13
Championships 1911 co-champs Miss valley
record 6-1-1
1912 Missouri valley co champs 6-2-0
coach Duncan 79-82 18-14-2
coach Crider 83-86 17-24-2
coach Walden 87-94 28-57-3
coach McCarty 95-06 56-85
coach Chizik 07-08 5-19
Just the facts BC
In the polls twice
1976 # 19 8-3 record
2000 # 25 9-3 record
In the history of the program
only ranked twice, only two bowl wins and only two co conf championships 98 and 97 years ago
i need to start putting "(sarcasm)" in my posts for you guys.
obviously IA st. has never been a GREAT program. i was just under the impression that they usually had a .500 winning percentage before Chizik.
BC got you guys hook, line and sinker!
Are you guys really that gullible? What part of Iowa State having a "storied tradition of excellence and winning championships" seemed like a serious proclamation?
C'mon fellas! You are better than that!
You were able to go through all the trouble of posting that data and you STILL didn't realize that perhaps BC wasn't being serious? Really?
who took the bait TE,BevoBoy & AUtigerman also nibbled.
Okay I'm convinced that Chizik ran it down after 2 bowl wins in the last 110 years.
BC ought to be shaking in his boots now, because Ia St is gonna rebound back to a championship team. Maybe the Cyclones will win the MNC now that Chizik is gone.
Go Cyclones
Saban will leave to the pros and BC will wish he had Chizik as HC
Go Mean Green
beat the H outa Bama
Thanks observer
wow....thank you.
part of the reason for the firing of Tuberville was all of those terrible assistants he kept around for so long.
the WR coach was a complete, and incompetent joke.
another problem with Auburn is team chemistry. according to a recent interview with Ryan Pugh, Auburn's practices are still "pretty chippy."
first and foremost, a team has to gel before it can accomplish anything significant.
and i would say i have hope for the Auburn program, but quite frankly, i don't believe that y'alls current coaching staff is any better than the previous one. it could possibly be worse.
i'm just callin it how i see it.
i believe Arkansas, in their second year under Petrino, will be a good team, as well as Ole Miss.
which is why i believe Auburn will battle Miss St. for last in the west this season.
Another point. Alabama had more talent when Saban came in, than Auburn has now with Chizik.
Saban > Chizik
so by some mathematical property, Auburn will finish with < 8 wins.
UPDATE: apparently y'all just lost Michael McNeil with a serious knee injury. this is unfortunate, i really hate seeing players get serious injuries like this no matter the team. but, saban keeps players off the ground in practice for this reason.
chizik....
Chizik...
Turns out it was a clean break of his chin bone. Doctors were able to set it on the field. He had sugery and put a pin in it.
He may be back late summer
USC is thus the most likely to be in the championship game because they are the BCS team most likely to go undefeated.
I strongly believe an undefeated MWC team would be ahead of any one loss team this year.
Boise State will be below several one loss teams even if they go undefeated.
The issue for all other BCS teams is going 12 games with only at most 1 loss.
They are not most likely to go undefeated, at all.
I think this year's SEC & Big XII Champions-regardless of loss totals-will meet for all the marbles, unless a Big 10(11) or ACC Champion is undefeated, and then the higher ranked of the Big XII or SEC Champions will face them for the BCS Crown.
I expect USC to have a down year, losing multiple (and by using the term multiple, I'm thinking right at 3) conference games, while being an afterthought to the PAC-10 Crown Discussion after leading it for the past decade.
I hope you're right though,...would love nothing more than for my Bears to kick their azzes in Berkeley this October!