Fanblogs.com: Florida, Oklahoma odds on favorites for 2009
OU_Ron
· 9 months ago
Think I'll put two dollars on Utah...
4cornerz
· 8 months ago
$2.50 on Utah
Porcine
· 8 months ago
Don't that beat all.
Clemson_Joe
· 8 months ago
Here's something I find interesting...
First, let me preface this by saying that I in no way, shape, or form believe that Clemson will win the National Championship in football this next season.
Now, with that said, I certainly don't believe that Pitt and Cal have as good a chance to do it as we do. I definitely do not believe that Notre Dame and Miami have that much better of a chance to do it than we do. If anything, it's the same. I'm sorry, I just don't see how the likelihood of going from the Emerald or Hawai'i bowl to the National Championship is better than going from the Gator to the Nat'l Championship.
I guess I just need to go ahead and figure out a way to win some money off of that fallacy.
Zac
· 8 months ago
I have to agree with you, Joe. Though, no doubt these dudes know more than we duz. It's funny they list FL & OK to repeat as favorites, yet USC is showing the same odds as the Sooners. I'm actually surprised to see WVU's odds as good as they are. Then again, isn't this just like any poll? Or should I say, like anyone's be...inde?
For example: They've got Iowa with the same odds at WVU to win the NC. I don't think Iowa's at all "bad", but I think WVU's better. See; just another opinion, just another "crack".
Gator_Babe812
· 8 months ago
Florida's chances are so high because of the returning starters :-)
Geaux gators!!!!!!!!!!
Zac
· 8 months ago
Ya think?!?
TigerEducated
· 8 months ago
What you meant say was, "Florida's chances are so high because of THE returning starter :-)"
Meaning one Mr. Tim Tebow...
Gator_Babe812
· 8 months ago
KK you right you right but i think we'll be ok without harvin :-) and how is it going in tiger country??? russell shepard didnt look too bad in the under armor game... and if you can get jefferson to play like he did in the chik fil a bowl all year we might have a competitor in LSU this season :-)
TigerEducated
· 8 months ago
We'll be aight...
The defense is getting taken care of, and if we could've taken care of the ball through the air last year, we'd have been fine on offense as well.
People forget that we while we gave up a lot of points to Georgia at home last year, we spotted them bookending pick 6's via our QB on top of the bad performance on D.
But, the X-Factor this year isn't defense, either. I think Chavis will have this defense playing phenomenally. He's already said that it's like having a secondary "full of Eric Berry's" in terms of the talent on the field and all through the depth chart. We just need the players to buy into the scheme, and forget the complications. Just go make plays, y'know?
Ball security from the QB position, & interior line blocking will make or break us.
Last year, we could run on most everyone, but the defense made us lean on the passing game because we found ourselves down early in most cases. Which caused cracks & fissures in Lee's game.
If we have a better game manager in Jordan Jefferson, we'll improve drastically. He can already chuck it just as good-or even better-than Lee can, and he proved in his 3rd or 4th collegiate pass that he could look off receivers (Jarrett Lee was the worst young QB I've seen at that aspect of the QB position that I've ever seen. That's no hyperbole, either).
He also can run a little bit, but Shep's going to change the game for us there.
Crowton & Miles are putting in a hybrid Spread right now and starting it out in the Spring. It'll be MUCH more like the 2007 offense than last year's.
Look for Jordan Jefferson to imitate Dennis Dixon, and look for Russell Shepard to fight Andre DeBose for SEC Freshman Of the Year on offense. Shep's playing QB the entire Spring to grasp the offense. He'll have a set amount of plays.
Imagine a spread offense where you have a kid in Jefferson who can chuck it or run the option or a keepr, who has a Charles Scott or Keiland Williams lined up next to him on one side, and then Russell Shepard lined up on other.
Direct Snaps to Shepard in the shotgun, sending one or both backs out of the backfield and into motion or on circle routes, double passes on bubble screens, QB draws, option plays...That's just what you have to defend for in the backfield.
Out wide, the receivers are quite simply going to be BEASTS...
I'm going to just shut up, though...Enough time for that to come out as we go along through the Spring & Fall...
"BC"
· 8 months ago
you ready for 2009 TE?
the west is gonna be Alabama/LSU again. my prediction is that LSU beats Alabama heads-up but loses the west overall. why? Alabama has an EASY schedule next season. no florida. no georgia. lsu, tennessee, and arkansas are all at home. in fact, the only game i see us losing that makes sense is to LSU, and maybe to Auburn and Ole Miss on the road if things really go down. and maybe to VT?
somewhere in the 8-4 to 12-0 range. Auburn, Arkansas, and Ole Miss will all be legitimate threats in the west this season.
Alabama will possibly have the best defense in the SEC this season. the defense is not in question. the offense is what will change dramatically from last season. Greg McElroy will almost certainly be the starter, but I've been hearing Star Jackson actually has a legitimate shot as well. We'll have better WRs to help out the new QB. We'll have HBs that are just as good or better than last season.
it all comes down to the O-Line for us. we lost 3 starters from last years line, and i think everyone saw what happened when we lost just one. thankfully, we recruited some help.
James Carpenter, the JUCO guy, is expected to come in and start right away. also, DJ Fluker will almost certainly have a starting spot on the line possibly at RT.
We'll see how it goes. we still lack some serious depth in the trenches.
i don't think we'll be as good as last year's team was, but i don't really see a threatening schedule. we might lose to VT to start the year, but i don't see that happening. we might lose to LSU at home, which is very possible. we might lose to Auburn in Auburn, possible. but not likely. we might lose to Ole Miss in Oxford. again. possible, but not likely.
but, if we make it to Atlanta again, i predict the same outcome. If we make it to the BCS again, i predict the same outcome. unless we play the Bearcats...
I'll also go ahead and predict that USC will be in the NC game. Oklahoma, Texas, or OSU will probably be the challenger. im pretty sure those four teams have been in it for the past decade now.
UPDATE: after some research. one of those four teams has been in it 8 out of the last 9 times. including the last 7 straight. wow.
1Tomcat
· 8 months ago
Hey BC its way too early for any predictions- right now everything is wide open I'd like to see a Texas vs Bama/Ole Miss/Fla/USC/PSU/OSU NC game. Texas has Colo,TTech,KU at home this year Missu,BU,OK St & A&M on the road. OU has a tougher schedule this year BYU & Miami and TTech in Lubbock. The game in Dallas ought to be bigger than ever. Hookem
"BC"
· 8 months ago
hey tomcat. being a texas native/fan whatever, what do you know about Greg McElroy?
1Tomcat
· 8 months ago
Had an outstanding High school career, course so did Snead. I've never seen McElroy play- check www.texasfootball.com There has been alot of great QB's coming out of Texas, like that kid that plays for Utah-ouch! Texas Tech,UGa,Missu,KU all had success with Texas QB's
Gatorboy41
· 7 months ago
It appears that you give no credit to the Gator defense, they were the key to win against OU, UM, and Bama. Tebow is a great player, taking nothing away, but the defense put the game on their shoulder, when we lost the ball on Bama's 10 yard line.
The_Observer
· 8 months ago
Both USC and Oklahoma are 5/1. I would put money on USC before Oklahoma next season, but that's just me.
OU_Ron
· 8 months ago
I don't think anyone would argue with you, especially me..
Zac
· 8 months ago
I dunno, Ron. Bradford returns; that's a big plus. But USC, aren't they starting over at QB? (As if they don't have anyone who could step up...) I personnally think that gives your Sooners a little edge.
OU_Ron
· 8 months ago
True, we have Bradford, but only one returning starter on the offensive line, we need someone to protect him.....
OU_Fan
· 8 months ago
We'll be fine. We have Jermaine Gresham, DeMarco Murray, Chris Brown, oh yeah and Bradford. I think OU definately has some work to do in regards to the O-line, but I don't think its something to dread about. But all that is not important to me. Whats important is the defense. I'm pretty excited to see how well our defense does this year. I think this defense has the potential to be better than the 2002 squad. But thats just me. BOOMER!
Zac
· 8 months ago
Defense is one thing that really hurt OK in key games last year. Rushing was the other. The Sooners lived by scoring more than their opponents most of the time; way more! It backfired against TX & FL. OK allowed over 160 yards against TX (not horrible, but not good either), while only managing 48 themselves - not good (duh!). They also allowed almost 250 yards rushing against FL, while only putting up 107 themselves - better, but far from good enough (obviously!). That is where OK has to work - rush defense, rush offense. Sam Bradford will get his yards and his TD's, but he can't win the big ones by himself.
Ramblin' Gator
· 8 months ago
Ole Miss should be on that list somewhere. A good 2008 season, a great bowl game, a strong recruiting class - the Rebels seem to be on a great trajectory for 2009.
Cobia
· 8 months ago
I think Ole miss has a decent chance, but they need to beat UF first. USC will be a contender as well. In the Big 12 I actually give Texas an edge over OU.... I mean Texas in my opinion was cheated out of the big game, and I doubt they will allow that to happen again. Plus I think Colt will be better than ever. As far as the big Ten goes one could throw OSU into the mix, because the media loves the BIg 10.
Prognosticators have a hard time picking the Rebels over LSU, Alabama and even a down-trodden Auburn. The west is wide open this year though, IMO...
Cobia
· 8 months ago
Indeed the West is up for grabs. The winner of the West might not end up playinging UF though, but rather UT, because Kiffin's promising a win against UF. hahahaha
So, who do you think he'll blame if he doesn't get the win? (Or, should I have asked who will he accuse of cheating when he doesn't get the win?)
Cobia
· 8 months ago
If it's a close game he will blame the refs.
Gatorboy41
· 7 months ago
Kitten is out of with reality.
TampaGator
· 8 months ago
WEA:
Great link--thanks for sharing (I marked it in my favs).
Oddly, my biggest concern on UF's schedule is that Miss St game @ Starkville. Historically we don't fare very well out there.
AU seems to have a pretty tough road schedule--At Tenn, Ark'y, LSU and UGA...
(I may be giving Ark'y more credit than they deserve at this point, but I figure Petrino's 2nd year should yield better results than last year).
GO GATORS!!
Porcine
· 8 months ago
Shhh., don't spill the beans.
Hotty_Toddy
· 8 months ago
That's expected after the few years of downtime we had. It's okay -- not that many picked us over alot of people in 2008. But we won. I'm not concerned about picks, just the actual outcome.
Zac
· 8 months ago
Hmm, all they'd have to do is beat FL. No easy chore, that. In fact, the last time that happened was...oh, yeah, last season. You are right, though. It wasn't easy then; it won't be easy this year. Still, I agree with your assessment. They'd have to be somewhere between a 10:1 to 20:1 odds team.
oldenglish
· 8 months ago
"I think Ole miss has a decent chance, but they need to beat UF first."
I'm quite certain that was the consensus opinion last year - at least among Gator fans. And then Ole Miss came into Gainesville. I will guarantee you that Florida will not beat Ole Miss in 2009.
Hotty_Toddy
· 8 months ago
Florida isn't on our 2009 schedule (fortunately). The only way we'd play them would be in the SEC title game.
oldenglish
· 8 months ago
I knew that, That's why I guaranteed it. Why "fortunately"? You whipped them good last year in Gainesville.
Zac
· 8 months ago
Grand recovery O.E.; like a pro!
Ramblin' Gator
· 8 months ago
"whipped" (Old English) defined as a 1-point victory
oldenglish
· 8 months ago
I thought it was 11.
Hotty_Toddy
· 8 months ago
I wouldn't say whipped, but we definately went blow for blow with them the entire game. Traded punches back and forth, and inevitably shut them down. By the way, it wasn't just the blocked point that did it -- it was stuffing Tebow on that 4th down.
By the way, it wasn't just stuffing Tebow on the 4th down -- it was scoring first, and making them rethink that maybe we believe we can win.
Oh and by the way, it wasn't just all those things -- it was a Snead to Hodge touchdown pass in the end that took the wind outta their sails.
So I guess "whipped" isn't completely wrong. ;-) And I said all of that for the people who still think it was "mere luck."
And Gator fans are foaming at the mouth for revenge for that one... and the next matchup will be in a few years for sure, but beware... it'll be in Oxford.
oldenglish
· 8 months ago
You guys went toe-to-toe with them, took their best shots and kept coming. I was glad to see Snead get a measure of revenge for what he considered unethical behavior (I believe Snead) by Meyer in the recruitment process.
Hotty_Toddy
· 8 months ago
I believe Snead is a ticking time bomb right now. He's ready to just explode with unbelievable feats of talent, and i'm just waiting to see. I caught the first glimpses of it in the Memphis and Wake Forest games, especially in the latter where he hurled it off his back foot (while spinning) and hit Shay Hodge down the field in the endzone for a perfect TD reception.
I believe mid-season of this upcoming season, there won't be as much talk of "Snead, the 2nd best QB in the SEC next to Tebow.."
TampaGator
· 8 months ago
"...And Gator fans are foaming at the mouth for revenge for that one..."
Unfortunately, we're not. That's why we constantly stumble against the Mississippi teams. By the time we make it back to Oxford, we'll probably be ripe for another blind stumble. That's not intended as a knock on Ole Miss, or even Miss St; it's just the way it is. UF ALWAYS looks right past the MS. teams, and winds up paying for it.
Then again, the loss to Miss St. sealed Zook's fate; and last year's loss to Ole Miss served as a rallying point and a "wake up" call--so maybe "paying for it" ain't necessarily a bad thing.
GO GATORS!!
Tom22
· 8 months ago
I was looking at those odds and wondering what the chances were for a team to leap from no-where one season to the top the next. My first impression was that it would be next to impossible
I didn't have to go as far back as I thought
LSU in 2003 wasnt in the ap top 25 at the end of 2002
Ohio state in 2002 wasn't in top 25 in 2001
It would take a long time to go through them all but I suppose a long shot Could possible win next year.
Is anyone else curious as to why Ohio State is so high up on the list? They lost over 20 seniors. I think they'll have a tough time winning the Big Ten, let alone being one of the top 5 teams
Porcine
· 8 months ago
They enjoy seeing them get creamed.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 8 months ago
Who's going to step up? Michigan? More realistically, Wisconsin or Iowa?
Bevo_Boy
· 8 months ago
I was thinking Penn St. I'm not sure how they did in recruiting, but they didn't lose nearly as much as Ohio St. did. Not to mention, they are the reigning Big Ten champs.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 8 months ago
I always forget that PSU is in the Big 10(11). Seriously, I do...
Zac
· 8 months ago
That's because they belong in the Big East.
Regan
· 8 months ago
Second. A petition is in order...
RazzMaTazz
· 8 months ago
I'll sign. I want Penn State and Pitt to resume their annual year-end, in-state rivalry game. It was a 96 year straight tradition (1905 - 2000) that abruptly ended when PSU joined the Big Ten and JoePa pussied out of the traditional rivalry game because he couldn't afford to risk another loss once he started playing decent teams in the Big Ten. (Prior to joining the Big Ten, PSU's schedule as an independent was usually laden with cupcakes so JoePa could afford to play Pitt.) PSU is an awkward outsider in the Big Ten and doesn't belong there. Nobody in the Big Ten considers PSU a rival. The Nits belong in the Big East. (And the ACC and Big East should swap BC for USF.) The Big Ten should go back to ten. Or if the Big Ten really wants eleven teams, they should swap ND for PSU. ND is a much better rivalry for many of the teams in the Big Ten anyway. Make it so.
Bevo_Boy
· 8 months ago
So does it make more sense now?
Zac
· 8 months ago
War Eagle, I really hate to be the one to say this, but Rich Rodriguez & his Wolverines are on track to do in his 2nd year at Michigan, what he did with the Mountaineers his 2nd year in Morgantown: Win 9 games. Given the personnel OSU lost on both sides of the ball, one of those wins could be against the Buckeye's. Let's not forget; Rodriguez knows how to defend against the Terrelle Pryor's of the world; not to mention, OSU was unmerciful in Columbus, and this year's game is in the Big House.
Consider some comparisons: In 2001, WVU lost to Maryland (10-2), Miami (12-0), ND (5-6), Syracuse (10-3), & Temple (4-7); they beat Kent (6-5), Ohio (1-10), & Rutgers (2-9). Similarly, in 2008 Michigan lost to ND (7-6), then #3 Penn St (11-2), then #10 OSU (10-2), & Utah (13-0). Yes, there was that embarrassing loss to Toledo (3-9). The difference lays in Michigan's wins: Miami of Ohio (2-10), Minnesota (7-6), & then #9 Wisconsin (7-6). WVU beat only one team with a winning record and only one in conference. MI beat two conference foes, both with winning records. It's entirely possible that MI could wind up as high as 2nd place in the Big Ten this year. My guess would be 3rd or 4th, depending upon wins in and out of conference. But, as TC has already said, it's way too early to make predictions.
thebuckstopshere
· 8 months ago
Isn't the answer to your question obvious? Apparently the people compiling these odds caught wind of the inspirational writings of one very special former buckeye. I mean if this doesn't motivate the current roster, I would be truly surprised. Here check it out your self, I think it will answer all your questions. Not just about CFB but life in general....... click here
Bevo_Boy
· 8 months ago
It's a good story, but I seriously doubt that it will replace the 24 seniors that they lost. Motivation helps, but experience helps more, and that is something that the Buckeyes will be lacking. I don't see that story making such an effect on the players that they become a top5 team. Don't forget, it happened to a Buckeye, but it will inspire people all around the country that read it, not just the Buckeyes, so other teams can also use it as motivation.
thebuckstopshere
· 8 months ago
LOL, I'm sorry was my tone in the previous post not sarcastic enough? I WAS JOKING!!!!!!!!!
Although I think you're misinterpreting these odds for RANKINGS. This isn't about being a "top5" team, it's about having a top five chance to win the championship. This simply means Ohio St. doesn't have a lot of obstacles in their way. If they win the Big10, even with one loss, they still have a half way decent chance to make it to the championship game. And from there who knows......... Think about it, they basically should only have USC and Penn St. in their path. I think if they have a 50/50 chance of beating both those teams. It looks like Texas has better than a coin flips chance of winning it all.......
Bevo_Boy
· 8 months ago
I should have mentioned, I enjoy taking those sarcastic comments and taking them seriously. It drives people crazy (see post above)
And to get into the championship, they would have to be one of those top teams, which I don't think they're capable of doing.
Tommy_Trojan
· 8 months ago
Bevo_Boy:
Ohio State has a chance to beat USC at the Horseshoe this coming year. Although, I don't think that it is gonna happen, a win there would certainly vault them up the charts. And, if they can get by Southern Cal, then there wouldn't be much doubt that they might take everybody in the Big Ten (or is it eleven?). Nevertheless, based on the potential of that game (as in prior Ohio State/Texas matchups), the winner of the game gets a major push up the charts early in the campaign. With just one loss in the Big Ten for instance, and Ohio State would certainly be Top Five, and headed for a BCS bowl game with a win over Southern Cal.
Also, all of these great programs are just loaded up with talent. It really doesn't matter that they are losing 20 guys. They'll just plug 20 more in who may be even better. We always like to assume that the people who left were better than the underclassmen. That is not always the case. With a little bit of playing time, most of the great underclassmen, come around very fast. Texas will also replace every great player that they just graduated.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 8 months ago
Graduated. You're using that term rather loosely with Texas, aren't you Tommie? Considering they're last in the country with that feat...
Tommy_Trojan
· 8 months ago
WEA:
I suppose I am - if your calculations are correct. I wasn't aware that there might be a problem with intellectual capacity (did I spell that right) down thar in Texas. Tomcat is a pretty smart guy (other than all the "road kill" that he's gobblin' down), and G.W. Bush sure got this country straightened around, so there might be some form of higher intelligence still left in Texas. As for the football squad - I'm not sure. I do know that Norm Chow did not want to draft Vince Young though. Think there is anything to that?
All Comments
First, let me preface this by saying that I in no way, shape, or form believe that Clemson will win the National Championship in football this next season.
Now, with that said, I certainly don't believe that Pitt and Cal have as good a chance to do it as we do. I definitely do not believe that Notre Dame and Miami have that much better of a chance to do it than we do. If anything, it's the same. I'm sorry, I just don't see how the likelihood of going from the Emerald or Hawai'i bowl to the National Championship is better than going from the Gator to the Nat'l Championship.
I guess I just need to go ahead and figure out a way to win some money off of that fallacy.
For example: They've got Iowa with the same odds at WVU to win the NC. I don't think Iowa's at all "bad", but I think WVU's better. See; just another opinion, just another "crack".
Geaux gators!!!!!!!!!!
Meaning one Mr. Tim Tebow...
The defense is getting taken care of, and if we could've taken care of the ball through the air last year, we'd have been fine on offense as well.
People forget that we while we gave up a lot of points to Georgia at home last year, we spotted them bookending pick 6's via our QB on top of the bad performance on D.
But, the X-Factor this year isn't defense, either. I think Chavis will have this defense playing phenomenally. He's already said that it's like having a secondary "full of Eric Berry's" in terms of the talent on the field and all through the depth chart. We just need the players to buy into the scheme, and forget the complications. Just go make plays, y'know?
Ball security from the QB position, & interior line blocking will make or break us.
Last year, we could run on most everyone, but the defense made us lean on the passing game because we found ourselves down early in most cases. Which caused cracks & fissures in Lee's game.
If we have a better game manager in Jordan Jefferson, we'll improve drastically. He can already chuck it just as good-or even better-than Lee can, and he proved in his 3rd or 4th collegiate pass that he could look off receivers (Jarrett Lee was the worst young QB I've seen at that aspect of the QB position that I've ever seen. That's no hyperbole, either).
He also can run a little bit, but Shep's going to change the game for us there.
Crowton & Miles are putting in a hybrid Spread right now and starting it out in the Spring. It'll be MUCH more like the 2007 offense than last year's.
Look for Jordan Jefferson to imitate Dennis Dixon, and look for Russell Shepard to fight Andre DeBose for SEC Freshman Of the Year on offense. Shep's playing QB the entire Spring to grasp the offense. He'll have a set amount of plays.
Imagine a spread offense where you have a kid in Jefferson who can chuck it or run the option or a keepr, who has a Charles Scott or Keiland Williams lined up next to him on one side, and then Russell Shepard lined up on other.
Direct Snaps to Shepard in the shotgun, sending one or both backs out of the backfield and into motion or on circle routes, double passes on bubble screens, QB draws, option plays...That's just what you have to defend for in the backfield.
Out wide, the receivers are quite simply going to be BEASTS...
I'm going to just shut up, though...Enough time for that to come out as we go along through the Spring & Fall...
the west is gonna be Alabama/LSU again.
my prediction is that LSU beats Alabama heads-up but loses the west overall.
why?
Alabama has an EASY schedule next season.
no florida. no georgia.
lsu, tennessee, and arkansas are all at home.
in fact, the only game i see us losing that makes sense is to LSU, and maybe to Auburn and Ole Miss on the road if things really go down. and maybe to VT?
somewhere in the 8-4 to 12-0 range.
Auburn, Arkansas, and Ole Miss will all be legitimate threats in the west this season.
Alabama will possibly have the best defense in the SEC this season. the defense is not in question.
the offense is what will change dramatically from last season.
Greg McElroy will almost certainly be the starter, but I've been hearing Star Jackson actually has a legitimate shot as well.
We'll have better WRs to help out the new QB.
We'll have HBs that are just as good or better than last season.
it all comes down to the O-Line for us.
we lost 3 starters from last years line, and i think everyone saw what happened when we lost just one.
thankfully, we recruited some help.
James Carpenter, the JUCO guy, is expected to come in and start right away. also, DJ Fluker will almost certainly have a starting spot on the line possibly at RT.
We'll see how it goes. we still lack some serious depth in the trenches.
i don't think we'll be as good as last year's team was, but i don't really see a threatening schedule.
we might lose to VT to start the year, but i don't see that happening.
we might lose to LSU at home, which is very possible.
we might lose to Auburn in Auburn, possible. but not likely.
we might lose to Ole Miss in Oxford. again. possible, but not likely.
but, if we make it to Atlanta again, i predict the same outcome. If we make it to the BCS again, i predict the same outcome. unless we play the Bearcats...
I'll also go ahead and predict that USC will be in the NC game.
Oklahoma, Texas, or OSU will probably be the challenger.
im pretty sure those four teams have been in it for the past decade now.
UPDATE: after some research. one of those four teams has been in it 8 out of the last 9 times. including the last 7 straight. wow.
Hookem
www.texasfootball.com
There has been alot of great QB's coming out of Texas, like that kid that plays for Utah-ouch!
Texas Tech,UGa,Missu,KU all had success with Texas QB's
Prognosticators have a hard time picking the Rebels over LSU, Alabama and even a down-trodden Auburn. The west is wide open this year though, IMO...
Great link--thanks for sharing (I marked it in my favs).
Oddly, my biggest concern on UF's schedule is that Miss St game @ Starkville. Historically we don't fare very well out there.
AU seems to have a pretty tough road schedule--At Tenn, Ark'y, LSU and UGA...
(I may be giving Ark'y more credit than they deserve at this point, but I figure Petrino's 2nd year should yield better results than last year).
GO GATORS!!
I'm quite certain that was the consensus opinion last year - at least among Gator fans. And then Ole Miss came into Gainesville. I will guarantee you that Florida will not beat Ole Miss in 2009.
By the way, it wasn't just stuffing Tebow on the 4th down -- it was scoring first, and making them rethink that maybe we believe we can win.
Oh and by the way, it wasn't just all those things -- it was a Snead to Hodge touchdown pass in the end that took the wind outta their sails.
So I guess "whipped" isn't completely wrong. ;-) And I said all of that for the people who still think it was "mere luck."
And Gator fans are foaming at the mouth for revenge for that one... and the next matchup will be in a few years for sure, but beware... it'll be in Oxford.
I believe mid-season of this upcoming season, there won't be as much talk of "Snead, the 2nd best QB in the SEC next to Tebow.."
Unfortunately, we're not. That's why we constantly stumble against the Mississippi teams. By the time we make it back to Oxford, we'll probably be ripe for another blind stumble. That's not intended as a knock on Ole Miss, or even Miss St; it's just the way it is. UF ALWAYS looks right past the MS. teams, and winds up paying for it.
Then again, the loss to Miss St. sealed Zook's fate; and last year's loss to Ole Miss served as a rallying point and a "wake up" call--so maybe "paying for it" ain't necessarily a bad thing.
GO GATORS!!
I didn't have to go as far back as I thought
LSU in 2003 wasnt in the ap top 25 at the end of 2002
Ohio state in 2002 wasn't in top 25 in 2001
It would take a long time to go through them all but I suppose a long shot Could possible win next year.
http://www.appollarchive.com/football/ap/season...
LSU 2003
Ohio State 2002
Oklahoma 2000
BYU 1984
Miami 1983
Clemson 1981
Georgia 1980
Almost a quarter of the time !
Consider some comparisons: In 2001, WVU lost to Maryland (10-2), Miami (12-0), ND (5-6), Syracuse (10-3), & Temple (4-7); they beat Kent (6-5), Ohio (1-10), & Rutgers (2-9). Similarly, in 2008 Michigan lost to ND (7-6), then #3 Penn St (11-2), then #10 OSU (10-2), & Utah (13-0). Yes, there was that embarrassing loss to Toledo (3-9). The difference lays in Michigan's wins: Miami of Ohio (2-10), Minnesota (7-6), & then #9 Wisconsin (7-6). WVU beat only one team with a winning record and only one in conference. MI beat two conference foes, both with winning records. It's entirely possible that MI could wind up as high as 2nd place in the Big Ten this year. My guess would be 3rd or 4th, depending upon wins in and out of conference. But, as TC has already said, it's way too early to make predictions.
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I'm sorry was my tone in the previous post not sarcastic enough?
I WAS JOKING!!!!!!!!!
Although I think you're misinterpreting these odds for RANKINGS. This isn't about being a "top5" team, it's about having a top five chance to win the championship. This simply means Ohio St. doesn't have a lot of obstacles in their way. If they win the Big10, even with one loss, they still have a half way decent chance to make it to the championship game. And from there who knows.........
Think about it, they basically should only have USC and Penn St. in their path. I think if they have a 50/50 chance of beating both those teams. It looks like Texas has better than a coin flips chance of winning it all.......
And to get into the championship, they would have to be one of those top teams, which I don't think they're capable of doing.
Ohio State has a chance to beat USC at the Horseshoe this coming year. Although, I don't think that it is gonna happen, a win there would certainly vault them up the charts. And, if they can get by Southern Cal, then there wouldn't be much doubt that they might take everybody in the Big Ten (or is it eleven?). Nevertheless, based on the potential of that game (as in prior Ohio State/Texas matchups), the winner of the game gets a major push up the charts early in the campaign. With just one loss in the Big Ten for instance, and Ohio State would certainly be Top Five, and headed for a BCS bowl game with a win over Southern Cal.
Also, all of these great programs are just loaded up with talent. It really doesn't matter that they are losing 20 guys. They'll just plug 20 more in who may be even better. We always like to assume that the people who left were better than the underclassmen. That is not always the case. With a little bit of playing time, most of the great underclassmen, come around very fast. Texas will also replace every great player that they just graduated.
I suppose I am - if your calculations are correct. I wasn't aware that there might be a problem with intellectual capacity (did I spell that right) down thar in Texas. Tomcat is a pretty smart guy (other than all the "road kill" that he's gobblin' down), and G.W. Bush sure got this country straightened around, so there might be some form of higher intelligence still left in Texas. As for the football squad - I'm not sure. I do know that Norm Chow did not want to draft Vince Young though. Think there is anything to that?
That thread is 2.5 years old. I'm sure they've moved up to at least #200 by now...
Keep hope alive!
No other At Large conference team listed?
TCU and BYU are just as good.
What are the odds that a one loss MWC team wins a BCS bowl? Call it a hunch...
BP, in my opinion the odds are as good as any I've seen this far.