#1 Pac-10 (5-0) #2 SEC (6-2) #3 Big East (4-2) #4t C-USA (3-2) #4t MWC (3-2) #6 Big 12 (4-3) #7t Sun Belt (1-1) #7t FBS Ind (1-1) #9 ACC (4-6) #10 WAC (1-4) #11 Big Ten (1-5) #12 MAC (0-5)
Wow...
Ben Prather
· 11 months ago
Do you think the SEC fans (the ones on the street, not the ones here) have a better understanding that the MWC is not the WAC?
Regan
· 11 months ago
Meh, I doubt it.
Matarese
· 11 months ago
Do you think Utah fans understand that they actually have to be in a BCS conference AND play real teams? A win over Alabama doesn't give the right to be number 1, as Florida well knows....UF came in ranked #2...and then showed it had the mettle to be BCS champs
Ben Prather
· 11 months ago
We are aware that this is what is required in the current system, but does that make the system right?
What about a win over Oregon State the week after they beat USC? What about a win over TCU, who finished in the top 10 in both polls? What about BYU in the top 25 in both polls?
Oklahoma, Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss and FSU. Utah plays two of those I got to think they win one. Then we would be right where Florida is.
We need a better system.
The_Observer
· 10 months ago
"We need a better system."
No, Utah WANTS a system that is better for THEMSELVES. If Utah doesn't step their game up with scheduling, then prepare to left out over and over again.
You WANT people to recognize Utah as a legitimate team, but it is NOT going to happen unless stop playing a sub par schedule.
Seriously, TCU and BYU are Utah's big wins! TCU played 2 decent teams, Oklahoma and Utah, both losses. The remainder of the schedule is flatout embarrassing! Voters should be ashamed of even putting them in the Top 25.
The same thing goes for BYU, but even worse! The only legitimate team they played was Utah...they got torched!
Quite frankly, Utah played a worse schedule than either TCU or BYU because they didn't have to play themselves! Utah fans shouldn't be calling for a new system, they should be calling for their team to step it up with the "big boys"! If you think you deserve a NC then play a schedule worthy of a NC. Utah's season is not worthy of a championship. Period.
Utah gained some credibility for topping Alabama, but that seemed more like a shock and awe campaign for the first 11 minutes. It only took Alabama 1 quarter to figure out how to contain Utah's offense when Alabama never even came close to seeing an offense like that all year. By that time though it was too little too late. Utah's passion was impressiive, but certainly not National Championship wortthy.
Ben, stop asking for the system to change. The system isn't the problem for Utah, it's the schedule. Your schedule deserves no respect from the SEC, Big 12, or Pac 10.
Let me just say that Utah COULD be the best team in the land but if you don't have it proven by beating quality opponents then how is anyone going to know?
One more analogy...If I supped up a Civic and told everyone it could go 200mph, but then I never took it out of the neighborhood, then why would anyone believe me?
Did you follow all that because I'm not sure that I did?
Ben Prather
· 10 months ago
Oregon State? Alabama?
We thought Michigan was going to be good.
You also forget TCU and BYU played each other.
You forget that the MWC went 6-2 vs the PAC 10. Sure three of those wins came from Utah, TCU and BYU, but so did one of the losses. The PAC 10 and MWC went a combined 7-1 vs. other conferences this year.
The MWC is 2-0 vs the SEC, including SEC West winner Alabama and MWC cellar dweller Wyoming.
The PAC 10 is 1-1 vs the SEC.
The BCS ignored the west this year. How many Harris voters need to admit they did not watch a single Utah game until the Sugar Bowl to convince you that maybe the system is broken?
The_Observer
· 10 months ago
Oregon State...not good. Alabama...vastly overachieved, faced Utah without the backbone of its offfense.
Thinking Michigan was going to be good doesn't make them good. Unfortunate for Utah, but Michigan is terrible.
No, I didn't forget that TCU and BYU played each other. Two crappy teams playing each other doesn't make them better.
Look, you can throw stats like "the MWC went 6-2 vs the PAC 10" around all you want, but that is doesn't make the MWC any better, Let's take a closer look at that one...starting with Utah, TCU and BYU.
Utah beat Oregan State (9-4) 31-28, not exactly dominant. TCU beat Stanford (5-7) 31-14, congratulations TCU! BYU beat Washington (0-12), give me a friggin' break Ben!
Then you have more unimpressive victories with the best one's being New Mexico and BYU over Arizona. Arizona (4-8) isn't exactly powerhouse football. Oh, I forgot to mention BYU ripping UCLA (4-8) an new one 59-0 (This one is sort of impressive even if UCLA was dismal).
The Alabama game was covered. Wyoming over Tennessee, well, Tenn fired their coach didn' they? Nuff said.
So, the Pac-10 is 1-1 vs. the SEC. What does that have to do with Utah having a weak schedule?
The BCS didn't ignore the West. USC lost to Oregon State and didn't have the schedule strength to make up for it. They are probaly the best team in the country (for years now), but they slipped up.
I'm sure most of the country didn't watch more than a few minutes of Utah football until the Sugar Bowl. How many Utah games were nationally televised, much less interesting. I suppose the Michigan game was watched by a few folks (well atleast some ESPN highlights), but by the end of the season that game doesn't make much of an impact. Outside the state of Utah, not many people are talking Ute football or MWC football. In fact, I challenge everyone on Fanblogs to name as many MWC teams as you can without looking it up. How many did you get...3? Yeah me too, Utah, BYU and TCU. I'm lying, I actually didn't know that BYU and TCU were in the MWC until I looked up Utah's schedule. Call me ignorant, but I've never had it come up. I've never needed/wanted to know about MWC football.
I know your dissappointed Ben, but going around spewing empty stats is intellectually dishonest. Stop deluding yourself and just be happy about your season. For crying out loud, your team just had the best season in it's history. Sorry, it wasn't good enough.
Ben Prather
· 10 months ago
Dissmissing three top 25 teams out of hat as not good, Oregon State, TCU and BYU is not very convincing.
If you are goiong to dismiss Alabama because they lost their most dominating player lets not forget Utah was missing players as well. Maybe the SEC needs some depth like a MWC team.
I saw every single game at Buffalo Wild Wings this year. Perhapse the MWC was hurt by a bad TV deal. People talk about what ESPN tells them to, just listen to everything you have said. You don't want to know about MWC football because ESPN has been ignoring them for not selling out for a lower price to their marketing package.
The MWC did not want to play at all hours of the week for 1/10th of the money they are getting from their current TV deal.
I am elated at the season. I am dissappointed that some people can't see the writing on the wall.
The_Observer
· 10 months ago
You know what is not very convincing...Utah's schedule, TCU's schedule and BYU's schedule. I dare you to list out their schedule for everyone to see.
The reality of the weakness is truly visible when you have to type out a long list of teams that would fit better in the HCC (HomeComing Conference).
Ok, so Oregan State went 8-4 and won their bowl game 3-0. Sorry I dismissed them as a National Championship argument. You're right, that really is a signature win for Utah!
You've changed my mind Ben! UTAH DOES DESERVE A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
Oh wait, no they don't.
Ben Prather
· 10 months ago
The AP poll indicated the national perception of who should be champion is 75% Florida 25% Utah. You are obviously in the former category.
I believe we have established a stand still, so no point really in arguing the point.
The_Observer
· 10 months ago
Agreed.
Zac
· 10 months ago
I just gotta ask. Is Utah in the Big East. It's just that all of this sounds so familiar...
The_Observer
· 10 months ago
UTAH DIDN'T SCHEDULE ALABAMA!
I'm not dismissing them, but by the Sugar Bowl it's too late. You were lucky enough to get put in a BCS game, much less counting on that win to give you a split NC. What was Utah's strategy to win a NC? Was there one? I going to guess that noone at Utah truly thought it was possible to win a NC. Now that you guys came sooo close, it is just difficult for you to admit that it wasn't ever part of the plan and therefore Utah didn't properly set themselves up for one. I bet in the future, when the Utah is planning it's football schedule, they will take a look at it from a different perspective. You guys will always remember the year 2009 as the year your schedule kept you from winning a National Title.
Or you could email the Harris Poll voters and give them directions to their nearest Buffalo Wild Wings. Whichever.
Ben Prather
· 10 months ago
This season we had a lot of questions going into the season.
At Block U discussions started the season with what would be a good year.
I stated 2 of these three: 1) 10 wins 2) beat BYU 3) win a Bowl Game
Several of us were critical of Whittingham, a situation that persisted for a third of the season. Then we became critical of Ludwig or offensive coordinator.
Our hopes of a national title hinged on Michigan performing well. That did not happen.
Needless to say our team out performed our expectations. Only in our wildest imaginations could we have dreamed of such a season.
Even then we knew a BCS title was out of the question. We appealed to our only real possibility for a legitimate championship in a mass e-mail campaign ending with a quarter of the AP voters picking Utah.
We lost the vote after a hard campaign, but will hang our head proud.
We made the radar. Our conference made the radar. Next year we will at least be looked at.
2/3 of our schedule is our conference. Until a BCS conference comes knocking on Utah's door the schedule argument aligns yourself with the BCS and the southern antebellum ideals it stands for.
The_Observer
· 10 months ago
Yeah me and 75% of the country.
Zac
· 10 months ago
Welp, that answers it, alright. Utah's in the Big East.
GoCougs!
· 11 months ago
Real teams? Those teams are much more real than they would see in the Big East!
BamaBorn
· 11 months ago
The point spread between Oklahoma and Florida was about the same as Alabama and Florida.
JaredIsKing
· 11 months ago
these mean nothing; qualitiy of match-up means everything (hence, as a Cal fan i benefited from the mctuchup that I do believe helped us and the Pac 10 come out with a V)
Regan
· 11 months ago
Agreed. Still neat to look at...
JaredIsKing
· 11 months ago
this does, however, show that the big 10 and MAC sure suck ( although USC PSU does not count; i will never favor a PSU team that always has homefield advantage)
JaredIsKing
· 11 months ago
correction USC team
Ben Prather
· 11 months ago
I am holding out for the AP poll. If Florida beats Utah by over 95 ranking points I will give up my dispute. I think Utah loses the AP Poll by 15-30 points. Utah might even take it as ugly as the first half was.
I know they have data to support Utah, they all got 300+ pro-Utah emails from utefans.net readers in the 18 hours they ran an e-mail blitz. A handful wrote pieces on it.
Only two teams showed they can take a month off and still come out ready to play ball. Cheers to Utah and USC.
Ben Prather
· 11 months ago
87 point difference...
less than 95. Sorry gators, but you are not going to hear the end of this.
Mr2Bits
· 11 months ago
Sorry Ben..no split title. Join the PAC-10 and the crystal could be yours.
AP : 1.Florida (48) 2.Utah (16) 3.USC (1) 4.Texas 5.Oklahoma 6.Alabama 7.TCU 8.Penn St. 9.Ohio St. 10.Oregon
Coaches: Florida (60) USC Texas Utah (1) Oklahoma Alabama TCU Penn St. Oregon Georgia
Ben Prather
· 11 months ago
Congradulation to Florida on thier concensus National Title. They are a very good team. Who would win a game between Florida and Utah? I would argue that it looks a lot closer now to everyone than the Sugar Bowl between Alabama and Utah did.
Utah has a more ligitimate claim to the title this year than BYU had in 1984. We actually faced some decent competition.
Utah has been lobbying to join the PAC 10 for over a decade, falling on ears as deaf as Boise's attempts to join the MWC.
25% of the media voted to Utah to be #1. If Utah had a loss we would not be clamouring as loud as we will. Has Auburn forgotten 2004?
Utah fans feel the BCS failed us. In the process the BCS failed Florida by not providing a championship free from the tarish of an undefeated team being excluded before the season even began. At least USC was undefeated in 2004.
Mr2Bits
· 11 months ago
I appreciate the condolences but don't get down on yourselves. Michalangelo didn't paint the sisteen in one night. It will take some time to get heard and change things but this year more than any shows the PAC-10 they need to beef it up a bit and add both you and BYU.
GoCougs!
· 11 months ago
Oh man that would be SO sweet! I'm afraid its never gonna happen though. I'm going for the MWC getting an auto-bid or replacing the Big East in the BCS.
Ben Prather
· 11 months ago
We are dissapointed in the system, not our team. Our team had the best year in its 100 year history.
And then we turn around from football and our Basketball team beats LSU to get into the top 25. It is a good time for the Ute Nation.
It will be interesting to see if any conferences make any invites this year. The only one I really see on the horizon is the MWC inviting Boise State.
GeauxTigers0107
· 11 months ago
Take it easy on our basketball team man...lol. We have a first year coach. Congrats on the win though.
Now back to FOOTBALL!
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
The_Observer
· 10 months ago
"We actually faced some decent competition."
Who?
TigerEducated
· 11 months ago
I hereby dub him, "BIG GAME NOB"....
Nice job, Stoops...
Some folks might want to stand out of the way, because I'm completely p!ssed drunk, after having consumed some Absinthe at a friend's house...
Oh yeah...Here goes...an ode to Bobby Stoops...
WHEN THE FACK ARE YOU GOING TO BEAT ANYONE THAT MATTERS NOT IN THE BIGXII CHAMIONSHIP GAME?
WHEN IN THE BLUE F*CK ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE OUT THE CATTLEPROD AN ADMITTEDLY SUSPECT FLORIDA DEFENSE STUCK SO DEEPLY INSIDE, AND THEN BROKE OFF IN YOUR RECTUM?
WHEN IS YOUR COACH GOING TO UNPUCKER HIS ACEHOLE AND STOP TRANSLATING SUCH TIGHTNESS IN BIG GAMES TO HIS TEAM?
WHEN IS A HEISMAN TROPHY WINNER GOING TO WIN A NATIONAL TITLE, OTHER THAN GARBAGE QB'S LIKE KEN DORSEY OR DANNY WAFFLEHOUSE?
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO FIND SOME KRYPTONITE FOR THAT 800 POUND GORILLA WITH A CHAINSAW FOR A PENIS THAT RAN THROUGH YOUR DEFENSE? YOU KNOW...THE ONE THAT HAD #15 ON HIS JERSEY...SOME DUDE NAMED TEBOW? THE ONE THAT LIKES THE JORTS...?
SERIOUSLY....SOMEONE GET BORDEN ON THE LINE, AND GET HIM INTO A FIRST AID CLASS...HOW MANY TIMES WILL BIG GAME NOB YELL OUT BEFORE THE BRASS IN NORMAL, OKLAHOMA REALIZE HE NEEDS THE HEIMLICH MANUEVER PERFORMED IN ANY OUT OF CONFERENCE POST-SEASON GAME?
Now...someone shold thi ssoap box steady while I climb down...It's late, I've been pounding Absinthe, I'm completely off the plot, and I felt like going on a tear of a rant....
OU_Ron...NML_Sooner...All others I may have offneded...My apologies in advance...I'll deal with it when I wake up in the mawnin, ladies & gents...
Congrats Gators, congrats Urine Cryer, and congrats to TIMMY EFFING TEBOW...Quite possibly the guttiest, ballsiest, stone-cold-fire-breathing-Jesus-Freak-Warrior-For-Yaweh the world-much less college football-has ever known...
Dude's got a will the size of Texas, and a heart the size of the deficit...Freaking MAN...
Tom_Blogical
· 11 months ago
That one blew my hair back, and I get it cut very short.
GeauxTigers0107
· 11 months ago
I think I'm joining AA after reading that.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
Tom_Blogical
· 10 months ago
Yeah, 'cause I think the fumes alone could get ya hammered, LOL!! ;-)
Tom_Blogical
· 10 months ago
Funny story, one of my friends tied a really good one on a few years back, and his sister-in-law, who is a sweetheart and never rubs people the wrong way (unless they're drunk), said, "Tony, don't you think you might've had enough to drink tonight?"
He looked at her, REAL drunk-like, and said, "Firsht of all, shutsh yer PIEHOLE! Shecond of all..." Then he passed out.
To this day when my wife is chattering a bit too much, I'll jokingly say, "Firsht of all, shutsh yer PIEHOLE!"
GeauxTigers0107
· 10 months ago
LMAO....
Reminds me of a funnier joke: Guy get home from the bar completely hammered with a live chicken under his arm.
He knocks on the door really loud. Wife wakes up, comes downstairs and opens the door, only to find her husband all sh_t-faced with a chicken under his arm.
Guy says "This is the pig that I'm F'ing".
Wife says, "you drunk azzhole, that's not a pig under your arm".
Guy says, "I know....I was talking to the chicken." LMMFAO!!
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
TheMayor
· 10 months ago
The punch line is actually "I wasn't talking to you."
CaneResurrection
· 11 months ago
Ken Dorsey didn't win the Heisman, just seems like he did. I can relate to what the Sooner fans are going through (Atlanta Braves, always the bride's maid). I always want to pull for the southern team, but I really wanted to see Sam Bradford throw for 450 yds and 4 TDs. Hopefully he would declare for the draft immediately after the game (we have the Sooners second game of next year). Plus, we don't recruit against Oklahoma.
Congradulations to the Gators. The defense played a hell of a game, and Tebow decided to put the offense on his shoulders in the second half (even though I still think Harvin should have been player of the game, but Tebow tied his shoes correctly so he wins it by default).
Something deep down and evil in me wanted Tebow to get caught with a hooker after the game. He IS the best player in the nation and a hell of a good kid off the field, but it's hard to sit through a game with the announcers drooling over him for 3 hours. Quote of the night, "In a world that focuses on the negative, if you'll spend just 5 minutes or 20 minutes with this young man, it will improve your life." GIVE ME A FRICKIN' BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!
Congrats, again.
Skip1
· 11 months ago
I'm with you as long as the hooker is male.
Mr2Bits
· 11 months ago
Is this what you've come accustom to?
Skip1
· 11 months ago
Honestly it would be sort of disappointing if Tebow just had a garden-variety scandal. He is too 'great a man' for that. If he's going to go down, go down in a blaze of glory.
He doesn't seem real to me. I don't know anyone like him and I think his demeanor is creepy. No one should be that sure of anything at 21 years old, let alone difficult questions of faith with which people struggle their entire lives. I respect him for his good works but will draw the line there.
It's not religion per se; Colt McCoy gave the obligatory shout-out to the divine after his bowl win, but it seemed less rehearsed and more real. Tebow rubs a lot of people the wrong way and we are not weird or anti-Christian to think so.
I'm glad he was born in the Philippines and can't run for president when the time comes.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 11 months ago
Ahh, but perhaps the P.I. needs a president?
Mr2Bits
· 11 months ago
Maybe he can pull a Rex Grossman and get popped doing blow off a strippers ass. That would put Timmy in the books. Rex is by far the most non-intelligent person I have ever known. Good guy but damn, he's done some stupid shiz
Mr2Bits
· 11 months ago
Quote of the night, "In a world that focuses on the negative, if you'll spend just 5 minutes or 20 minutes with this young man, it will improve your life." GIVE ME A FRICKIN' BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to call shenanigans on your hate here. Think about this for one second. What were your doing at 21 years of age? Probably drinking beer and rubbing one off to the JC-Penny catalog your mom leaves by the crapper.
Tebow on the other hand has been through more life experiences than 100 people together. I think if you spend 5 good minutes with ANYONE in this world and talk about life experiences and their values it changes your life in some way. In this case, your talking about not only one of the greatest college football players in history but also one of the most idolizing off the field human-beings this sport has ever seen. Any time speaking with Tebow will change your life I guarantee it.
CaneResurrection
· 11 months ago
I don't doubt that Tebow is a great kid. I don't hate him, as much as I would like to. It's hard to hate Tebow. I think it's great that a 21 year old kid has that kind of faith. The fact that his mother was advised to abort him just adds to the story. My problem is with the announcers. If they talked about the game half as much as they do Tebow, the game would be easier to watch. As great as Tebow is, it's still the Florida Gators vs. the Oklahoma Sooners, not Tim Tebow vs. the Oklahoma Sooners.
USC1801
· 11 months ago
You just nailed it. Those who are condemning or detracting of Tebow because of the commentators last night should take a step back. Tebow wasn't the one blowing his horn, those guys in the booth simply put too much emphasis on the same points over and over again. I agree: that is irritating.
If anyone has a problem with Tebow's moral and religious stand, then they may want to check out the thugs who normally get the spotlight in professional sports (and increasingly, college). Which do you prefer?
Bama_Babe
· 10 months ago
Oh but wait, CaneResurrection, I thought it was the Florida Tebows?!?!
WarEagleFan
· 11 months ago
I would rather hear about a good kid and what he does off the field for three hours than listen to the off the field crimes that other players get into for 5 seconds. Tebow is a hell of a kid and it is a refreshing change for the young kids to have someone like him to look up to. Just goes to show you that you can be good at a sport and also be a good human being. WAY TOGO TEBOW and the FLORIDA GATORS.
CaneResurrection
· 11 months ago
I'd rather just hear about the game during the game. The piece on Tebow during the ESPN Awards Show almost brought tears to my eyes. He is a great kid, I'm not disputing that. But there is a time and a place to talk about that.
TampaGator
· 11 months ago
"...In a world that focuses on the negative, if you'll spend just 5 minutes or 20 minutes with this young man, it will improve your life." GIVE ME A FRICKIN' BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!..."
Curious--did you call the Dan Silio show this morning?
Thanks for congrats.
GO GATORS!!
CaneResurrection
· 11 months ago
Nope, wasn't me. I just threw up in my mouth a little when I heard that. Give me a break, I'm trying to watch a ballgame.
Mr2Bits
· 11 months ago
Big Dog is far better than Dan. Dan actually annoys me as he seems to not be able to let go of the late 80's Miami squad and his "glory days". I usually don’t make it into the office until about 9-9:30 so I only catch the last 20-30 minutes of his show on my commute.
TampaGator
· 10 months ago
Agreed re. Silio.
As for the Big Dog--he's entertaining, but a bit much. He can't conceal the his Philly roots.
GO GATORS!!
Tom_Blogical
· 10 months ago
"Something deep down and evil in me wanted Tebow to get caught with a hooker after the game."
Let's set his religious beliefs completely aside for the sake of argument. If you've ever seen his girlfriend, you already know that there is a zero percent chance of that happening. Unless the guy has a ridiculously dangerous sex addiction.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 10 months ago
He'd probably apologize to his teammates and the Gator nation if caught...
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 11 months ago
See what dancing with the green fairy gets you?
I gotta try some absinthe, now that's it's legal in the US again...
TheMayor
· 10 months ago
I watched the Green Fairy work it's magic at Lake Tahoe on Saturday night. 3 Couples came in to the bar I was at...dared each other to drink the green. 30 minutes later the bar was basically on fire. These 6 people went bonkers. Hysterical to watch...
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 10 months ago
In the end, it's still alcohol, but some people swear it's something more. I want to try for myself. I'll have to ask for it at my local joint. I haven't noticed any pretty girls dressed in green in the liquor store pushing it like a street dealer.
Did you and Mrs. Mayor not care to portake? Were the other couples doing it straight, or mixed? (the alcohol, not each other...)
TheMayor
· 10 months ago
Absinthe served at bars here, as I understand it, are the Americanized version with less hallucinogenic effects than their European counterparts.
1. I own a bottle from Farnce 2. I have never tried it..fear. 3. My wife hates Lake Tahoe, outside activities, me and sports in general.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 10 months ago
Try plying her with some one night. She might end up liking at least three out of the four... :-)
I had a chance to smuggle some out of France a few years ago. I chickened out from a possible confrontation with US customs in the immediate post 9/11 climate...
Somebody contact TE and make sure he's okay. He's got to be at work in the moring...
Zac
· 10 months ago
Gee Wiz, Batman, you almost sound like Kieth Moon. Just dont fall out of a window, OK?
OU_Fan
· 11 months ago
Congrats to Florida. As much as I would have loved to see an OU win, hate to say it but I somewhat getting familiar with the feeling of seeing my team lose bowl games. However, I have no shame in being a Sooner. I'm proud of my team and proud of the fact that they had a spectacular season. I can't really be too mad since the Sooners have won 3 back to back Big 12 championships and have had another player win the Heisman trophy. OU could have won, those 2 redzone stops by Florida in the first half were huge, but oh well. If I were coach, I would have settled for the field goal with 10 seconds left on the clock before the half so that my team could go into the locker room 10-7 but thats just me. I fully back Stoops going for it on 4th and goal on the first red zone stop, but I would think that Kevin Wilson would want Bradford to get the rock to Gresham. But overall, congrats to Florida on their 3rd national championship. I as any other Sooner will get over this loss, keep my head high, and get ready for next season. It sucks to see OU lose 3 out of 4 national championships, but to me its an achievement for OU to be able to compete for those championships....... BOOMER!
Kevin @ Fanblogs
· 11 months ago
Congrats to the Gators! It was a great game!
U.of S.C.1978
· 11 months ago
Now is the time CJoe, for you to re-present the great Sagarin statistics on how the ACC is the deepest, or whatever, conference in the land.
USC1801
· 11 months ago
No knock on ClemsonJoe but I was thinking the same thing. Where are the Sagarin lovers now? The Big 12 and the ACC were touted as being so much better than the SEC this year but in the end the cream rose to the top. One thing is for sure: The SEC produces champions. . . you simply can't play the caliber of teams week in and week out without it having positive results.
I did come away with more respect for OU after this game. They have a very good team, and have nothing to be ashamed of, including Stoops.
Clemson_Joe
· 10 months ago
The SEC does (this year) and has in recent years produced champions. There's no arguing that. Also, in past years, the SEC was the deepest conference, as the worst team in the SEC was better than the bottom of the other conferences. This year, however, that is hands down the ACC, as Duke is far and away better than the bottom of any other conference. Thus, making it the deepest, and for us Sagarin lovers out there, raising the average conference rating to the highest of all conferences.
Edit: The SEC now has the highest average, showing that the SEC is the strongest. The ACC is still the deepest as Duke comes in with a 57. The SEC is the closest, with Miss. State coming in at 97.
USC1801
· 10 months ago
That's a fair analysis, and I would probably agree, with a few exceptions, that in the past the SEC bottom dwellers could hold their own against most of the ACC. As I've said in a previous post, the ACC is on the rise, and I believe will have a NC in the next five years. It almost makes me wish Frank McGuire had never used his influence to get us out of the ACC! LOL. . . not really.
FSU_Ben
· 10 months ago
Well right now USC makes far more money in the SEC. We pay well in the ACC but not that well. Sure you may have had some actual conference championships and more wins but it that all that matters?
I ask that seriously. Duke makes quite a bit of football money (as well as basketball of course) but hasn't fielded a good team for a long time unless you count this year. USC doesn't have to be competetive either even though they have beaten everyone on thier side since Spurriers arrival. They could sit there and the the worst and still take home a huge chunk of cash. This money pays for the other sports they play (as well as basketball money of course).
My point is, is football success important for USC? They havn't had much and still have a huge fanbase, travel well and make a bonanza of money each year from both the conference and ticket sales. Success is important for ACC programs Miami and to a lesser extent Florida State. I sometimes wonder why either craved a more competetive conference.
Clemson_Joe
· 10 months ago
"that in the past the SEC bottom dwellers could hold their own against most of the ACC"
I agree. They could in the past. This year the tables were turned, as evidenced by bottom of the ACC Duke beating middle of the pack SEC Vanderbilt in Vanderbilt.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 10 months ago
Only to have Vanderbilt return the favor to conference runner-up Boston College in the Music City Loser Bowl...
Clemson_Joe
· 10 months ago
True. They also lost to middle of the pack Wake Forest. I don't know if you watched BC the last 2 games, but they were playing without their QB and they looked absolutely anemic. It's their own fault for not having a backup that is worth anything, but the team that took the field against VT and against Vanderbilt would've probably been below Duke if they'd played the entire season like that. Conference depth is measured over the entirety of the season, so it doesn't much matter, but it's worth recognizing.
Just out of curiosity, I'd love to see Florida, Ole Miss, Georgia, etc. play without their starting QB. There are plenty of them across the country, and again, there's no excuse to not having a capable back up, but the reality is that most teams don't have one. Take away the QB and you've beached the whale that swam so powerfully through the season. Miami (by his own volition) and BC (via injury) got to show how that works out this season. I'm sure we'll see it again next season with other teams. It is truly a special team that can recover, and BC and Miami proved that wasn't them.
Clemson_Joe
· 10 months ago
By the way, I just noticed that S. Carolina has Georgia Tech scheduled for a home and away in 2021, and 2022. I think that has to be farthest out I've ever seen a home/away scheduled. I wonder how that one went down.
FSU_Ben
· 10 months ago
To be fair, I don't think the cream had a chance to rise to the top of the big 12.
Clemson_Joe
· 10 months ago
How does the top team in the SEC beating the (maybe) top team in the Big XII have anything to do with Duke, the lowest rated ACC team, being rated higher than any other conference's lowest team? C'mon man...
Florida beating Oklahoma proves that Florida is better than Oklahoma, and maybe that the SEC was better than the Big XII this year. However, it does nothing to prove that the ACC is not the deepest conference.
FSU_Ben
· 10 months ago
Indeed I wonder if people know what deepest means. SEC fans in some chat feed next to bowl games (if anyone is familair with watching the online feeds found on channelsurfing.net etc.) also seem to not understand what is meant by the term.
U.of S.C.1978
· 10 months ago
Little Billy walks out to the middle of a bridge which spans a small river. He's just standing there looking into the water when he hears his friend Little Johnny holler at him. Little Johnny walks up and says, "watcha doing Billy?" Billy says, "well I was thinking bout fish, but all that water has made me need to pee, so I'm going to stand right here and piss in the river." Little Johnny says, "well I got to pee too". Little Johnny walks to the other side of the bridge and there the boys stand, back to back, peeing into the river. Suddenly Little Billy exclaims, "DAMN, THIS WATER IS COLD". In a low but loud voice, Little Johnny says, "Yeah, and it's DEEP too".
FSU_Ben
· 10 months ago
Ok let me see if I get it.
The two boys are making comments on a river (the ACC) that they shouldn't have any direct evidence of given the story. They are fans of another river (the SEC and teams that went 1-1 specifically against the other "river"). They shouldn't make comments about the first river (the ACC) that they have no direct evidence of and are simply making because they are homers of it's geographic rival (or the closest thing to it). Am I getting the gist?
U.of S.C.1978
· 10 months ago
You more than got it Ben, In fact, your analysis is probably DEEPER than my little story. If you had offered up some statistics in your dissection, it's entirely possible that you could have further helped the little boys in their attempts to determine the temperature, depth, and relative clarity, of said water.You gotta admit that the boys "analytical tools" (betcha never heard a dick described that way) are probably not worthy of the measurements they are claiming to be making.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 10 months ago
The 'D' word got your post thrown in the junk pile. I believe the approved word is talleywhacker...
U.of S.C.1978
· 10 months ago
HA HA HA! Had forgotten the correct form. A thousand pardons please.
Matarese
· 11 months ago
I'd feel bad being an Oklahoma fan and listening to all stuff talked by the Sooner football team...what a joke. One day (though far in the future) you Oklahoma buffoons will realize that you don't play football with just a bunch of big guys. It actually takes skill and intelligence, something that is sorely lacking in the "great" state of Oklahoma.
Matarese
· 11 months ago
and to the OU fan, I would be mad because you've lost 5 straight BCS bowls. Your athletic program is a joke in the south
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 11 months ago
Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the futon this morning...
USC1801
· 11 months ago
No, their program is not a joke in the South. . . it is highly respected. I don't know what team you support but I doubt there is a rational fan out there who wouldn't mind being in the same position OU was before last night's results. If you didn't notice, OU was playing for the national championship. . . some joke, huh?
Zac
· 10 months ago
Did Coondawg change his handle or something?
Matarese
· 11 months ago
and to Utah...you actually have to play in a BCS conference....I don't if you all know, but u agreed to the rules and now you feel that the rules should be bended to account for your poor hurt ego...grow up kids
Zac
· 10 months ago
I'm not a Utah fan. While I agree that "somebody" agreed to the...ahem...rules, you might wanna ask the UT fans about whether or not they did, not to mention how they feel about em. Do it from a distance, though. Lots safer.
Ben Prather
· 10 months ago
Some one ...ahem... is getting an additional 4.5 million to build on top of an exceptional program.
The players and team are perfectly content with a perfect season and the best team in school history. They put all their marbles on the field and beat a highly regarded Alabama team adding to their 8 game bowl winning streak.
Us fans are very happy with our team. We are elated to end the season #2. Some of us thought we would be fortunate to get into the top 25.
Singing, Dancing, and chanting 4POINT5 Mill-ion, clap, clap, clap clap clap. That is the tone of the day.
Zac
· 10 months ago
Ben, I can't help feeling there should have been a split title; that's what I was referring to - the inference that a team has to play a "BCS" schedule or be in a "BCS" conference to be eligible to win the NC. Just my opinion. $4.5 M on the other hand, well, I guess...ahem...someone is complain'n (maybe not) all the way to the bank. Woe iz you guyz.
Though underappreciated by some, you're right; it has been a season of seasons for the Utes. My sincere congratulations!!!
Matarese
· 11 months ago
Utah....joke of the day?
GeauxTigers0107
· 11 months ago
Captial H....not the usual, s.o.p. "h". But a big-as-the-Statue-of-F'ing-Liberty H.
Mr2Bits
· 11 months ago
Matarese
Please tell me your not a UF fan as we don't need this type of stereotype
Ben Prather
· 11 months ago
Default image, talking nonsense, I am not going to dignify his comments with a response.
Ramblin' Gator
· 11 months ago
Well done, Ben.
Zac
· 10 months ago
Well, Ben, I see you already knew the punch-line to that one.
AUtigerman
· 11 months ago
I felt like Harvin was MVP anyone else feel that way?
Ramblin' Gator
· 11 months ago
Tough call, but I could agree. Without Harvin, UF loses the game, though the same could be said for Tebow.
otowngator
· 11 months ago
I was very disappointed that Harvin didn't get MVP considering not only his performance but his condition coming into the game. Word is he was playing with a hairline fracture, not just a sprain. Regardless, the pro scouts saw it and will reward him accordingly. Congrats Gators and Sooners alike!! Thanks for the years Harvin and Spikes. We will surely miss you next year!!
Mr2Bits
· 11 months ago
I too was disappointed he did not win this as he was the gas for the engine, Tebow was the oil. Harvin is made of glass but no doubt deserves the MVP. It also doesn't help his injuries when you have players deliberately trying to twist his ankles and legs.
CaneResurrection
· 11 months ago
I thought Harvin should have been MVP. Without him, the game would have been out of reach before Tebow finally flipped the switch.
Classless play by the Sooner who pulled and twisted Harvin's ankle. I caught that play immediately (we play Va. Tech every year, so I'm used to seeing it). Harvin won alot of respect from this Cane fan last night.
OU_Ron
· 11 months ago
I've seen a few post about one of the Sooner players twisting Harvin's leg, I must have been doing something other than watching the game when that happened....whoever it was should be punished and I hope is is...no place in a game for that..
Zac
· 10 months ago
Hey, Ron. My heart goes out to you and all of Sooner Land. I thought Stoops might pull it off this time. Indeed this was instead the night where opportunistic defense made the difference. Just don't buy into getting rid of the man. He'll bring another one home soon enough.
FSU_Ben
· 10 months ago
I guess I wasn't watching that part either. I doubt it occurred. I will scour the internet to see what evidence exists, hopefully a decent youtube video at least for people to even bring such loathsome accusations to the table.
Mr2Bits
· 10 months ago
Dont know about a video but there is plenty of talk on it as the Fox commentators commented on how it was completely uncalled for and dirty.
FSU_Ben
· 10 months ago
All I found was a mention of it by Harvin himself on a play we all saw (he was limpy and stayed out for two plays after). It certainly didn't appear deliberate to those watching the play although I will grant our six or so angles don't always catch everything any malicious act would be a result open field tackling generally and should appear obvious. We have all seen some ugly-ass (was his name tyrone prothro the alabama kid, or that houston kid that hit the machinery in the backfield this year breaking his leg under just his own force) accidental hits though and I'm sure if you were trying on purpose you could really destroy someones leg.
I'm suggesting it would have been obvious if it was serious attempt to injure him I realize we can't see a little pig pile pinching but I should hope a player wouldn't even mention that.
FSU_Ben
· 10 months ago
"...have players deliberately trying to twist his ankles and legs." Outrageous?
I hope such a comment isn't directed at Florida State. It really doesn't matter your conditioning (Harvin's) if 250-300 pound kids want to purposely hurt you they can and will. It would not be a matter of attempt he wouldn't get 3 plays off. Given the general design of the sport I would think a fan would realize people aren't trying to hurt each other on purpose or they would certainly succeed most of the time.
Tebow suggested FSU fans cheered when he limped off the field too, I guess he doesn't know that is what fans of most fans do when a player is ok. They are happy he isn't more seriously injured. I doubt half the fans even knew his number.
I wonder what we should expect from players and fans who think along such lines.
Mr2Bits
· 10 months ago
I hope such a comment isn't directed at Florida State. it was directed at OU. But FSU is known to use the same dirty tactics i.e Darnell Dockett twisting Earnest Graham's Leg in attempts to reinjure him.
Football injuries are different when they happen in during the play but when you have a player twisting legs and ankles in attempts to injure/re-injure a player, that’s when things go too far.
FSU_Ben
· 10 months ago
I am forced to agree Harvin was the difference in that game. Tebow played well but Harvin was spectacular.
Bama_Babe
· 10 months ago
My words after the game: "Harvin better get MVP."
Now that the season is over, I will admit it. With Harvin, the SEC Championship game could have been much uglier for us Bama fans....
FanoftheGame
· 11 months ago
Good point AUtigerman..........Co-MVPs with Tebow and Harvin are probably more fitting. Harvin did come up huge to help spark the gators and create momentum when his team needed it. And Tebow did put his team on his back in the fourth quarter to close the show.
GeauxTigers0107
· 11 months ago
IMO, two things defined the game: Florida's red zone defense and also their third down conversion percentage. That's what won them the game.
Although, I have to give a nod to the D-line of Oklahoma. They were exceptional. Their defense represented well. Florida just managed to pull away in the end. I really enjoyed the game though. I probably would have enjoyed it more if it turned out to be the 41-38 air show that most were expecting, but still a great game, none-the-less.
So a big Congratulations to the Florida Gators and their fans on here. You guys did the SEC proud. Way to bring the title back....or actually keep the title where it belongs....in the Southeastern Conference.
And to the Sooner friends on here, don't take this personally.....this isn't meant for you....but just in case some certain someone is reading this:
CRIMSON AND CREAM..................FALSE
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
Bama_Babe
· 10 months ago
I believe I stated before the game that one of the keys for Oklahoma was their 3rd down defense. I was right. Just as Alabama did, Oklahoma let Florida convert important 3rd down plays, a few for touchdowns even. Florida was at one point 6 for 6 on 3rd downs. I believe that was the difference in the game. Plus, the goal line stand and turnover right before the half.
otowngator
· 11 months ago
Has anyone seen anything written about the Harvin debacle when his leg/ankle was pulled after the tackle?? If that act had occurred in the NFL the player would have been fined and/or suspended. I certainly hope Stoops reviews the tape and acts accordingly. Had EVERYONE not known the condition of said ankle, though still distasteful, it wouldn't be such an issue. No different than stomping on a quarterback's hand that is playing with taped up fingers. INEXCUSABLE imho
Regan
· 11 months ago
Agreed. No need to wait for karma when it comes to crap like that.
I hate injuries; I don't care which team. I want my guys to go out there, match up with the other teams' guys head-to-head and beat them straight up.
It just isn't the same when you win over a second-stringer. And THAT'S when it's accidental.
Intentional? Someone needs to be Given the Business....
GeauxTigers0107
· 10 months ago
I agree with both you guys. I thought it was down right sh_tty. Then Harvin limps off and I figured he's done for the night...most probably.
But then he comes back out 2 or 3 plays later and is running wild again. That's when it occured to me that maybe, just maybe, when he felt the tug at his ankles, he decided to play it up and bit. I dismissed the thought nearly as quick but obviously, it's still in the back of my mind.
Kinda similar thing happened last year in the NBA when Paul Pierce went down hard, had to be carried off the court, only to return and play like nothing happened.
Makes you go hhhmmmmmm................
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
otowngator
· 10 months ago
Actually I think he probably bounced back up due to a mixture of adrenaline and the potent painkillers they jacked him full of. Regardless if he played it up or not, it was still intentional and a classless cheap shot on Harris' part. And I feel like Stoops should punish him accordingly. Though I'm not sure if he is a senior or not.....in which case not a thing can be done about it.
Sure would like to see the replay on You Tube but can't find it anywhere........
OU_Fan
· 10 months ago
He is a senior. He's also a good athlete. But I think what he did last night was pretty dirty.
Tom_Blogical
· 10 months ago
Cortisone works very well. It's MAGIC! :-)
TampaGator
· 10 months ago
Yeah, that's how it went down....
Percy didn't have a high ankle sprain, the OU player didn't know anything about it, and a tough-ass Percy Harvin seeking to impress NFL scouts who already have concerns about him being injury prone, figured he'd go ahead and avail himself of the opp'y to render his best impression of a soccer player on a conspicous national stage.....
What an idiotic, moronic, buffoonish, dumbass suggestion.
GO GATORS!!
GeauxTigers0107
· 10 months ago
Just because you said so, right genius??? All I said was that the thought briefly crossed my mind, which I immediately dismissed.
NEVER ONCE DID I SAY HE DIDN'T HAVE A HIGH ANKLE SPRAIN FUKTARD. The kid even stayed over for the Christmas holidays to rehab it. The whole world saw that. I've got nothing but respect for him. You.....the exact opposite.
So take your adjectives and favorite cucumber and stick 'em up your azz.
TampaGator
· 10 months ago
".....That's when it occured to me that maybe, just maybe, when he felt the tug at his ankles, he decided to play it up and bit....[insert Paul Pierce reference]...Makes you go hhhmmmmmm................"
= SUGGESTION--not a fleeting ("breifly crossed my mind") thought.
You're floating it out there like there's something to it, even comparing it to Paul Pierce, who all but admitted and apologized for "playing it up."
Keep your cucumber freak; I don't roll that way.
GO GATORS!!
GeauxTigers0107
· 10 months ago
"I dismissed the thought nearly as quick......
Attaway ballbag......leave out the part that shows how much of an ass you really are.
"You're floating it out there like there's something to it, even comparing it to Paul Pierce, who all but admitted and apologized for "playing it up."
And you're telling me what I meant by something I said. What are you now....the illegitimate offspring of Ms Cleo and a jackass?
The_Observer
· 10 months ago
Doesn't bringing it up here today prove that it was more than a fleeting thought? I mean if it was dismissed so quickly, then why are you posting about it on a blog the next day?
Just sayin.
TampaGator
· 10 months ago
EXACTLY!
GO GATORS!!
TampaGator
· 10 months ago
"...I dismissed the thought nearly as quick..."
...and then posted about it the following day, compared it to Paul Pierce, and finished with...
"...makes you go hhhmmmmm..."
It's called drawing inference--not telling you what you meant.
Say what you want, spin is as you like; I'm reading what you're DOING.
GO GATORS!!
GeauxTigers0107
· 10 months ago
Honestly...in recalling the game and sharing my thoughts on it, that was one of things that came back to me......so I said it.
I can see how it can be taken that way....but seriously...all jokes, sarcasm and insults on the side...it wasn't meant that way.
When I said I dismissed it nearly as quick, that's exactly what happened. And if that offends you, well...I don't know what else to say. I don't think it warrants an apology because I know exactly what I meant.
So take it as you may...but all I've been doing before I was called several names was give the Gators and Percy Harvin props.
If you want to take it back to the gutter, we can. I just don't think there's a need for it.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
USC1801
· 10 months ago
Dude, you have class. Excellent response.
I can see where you might have wondered about Harvin's quick recovery, and it didn't offend me for you to throw it out as a possibility. It's not like you were making a strong case for it. . .
GeauxTigers0107
· 10 months ago
TYVM USC1801. I'm glad you saw it for exactly what it was. I'll leave it at that.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
TampaGator
· 10 months ago
FWIW: I didn't take it to the gutter. I didn't call YOU idiotic etc; I called your suggestion idiotic....
You came back with the "F-tard" and "cucumber" retorts, then the Ms. Cleo/jk-ass stuff....
I may have taken a little more exception to the suggestion than was warranted, but it seemed like you were callin' Harvin out as a pussy. Dude was playing injured AND he was still money; hardly a puss in my book. Frankly, he impressed me more than Tebow did in that game. Thought he was de facto MVP even.
We're cool.
GO GATORS!!
GeauxTigers0107
· 10 months ago
TG: Reply posted all the way at the bottom, for some strange reason only Discus understands.
edit: Now it's not there anymore. No telling where it went. So, to reitterate:
I definitely wasn't calling Harvin that. I've got nothing but respect for the guy. I'd love to have him in BR.
And yes we are. Peace.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 10 months ago
Because bad words automatically throw your post into the 'waiting for approval' pile, where it awaits moderation.
Glad you guys are hugs and kisses now...
GeauxTigers0107
· 10 months ago
Kinda figured that. That's why the second response didn't contain the "p" word in relation to Harvin.
I hear you guys have a new D-line coach. Maybe it's time for a "coaching carousel update" to include the latest hirings. We've got three new ones as well.
I will say that I am quite impressed with the hires that Chizik has made so far, especially with Gus Malzahn as OC and Ted Roof, formerly Duke's HC, as DC.
Clemson_Joe
· 10 months ago
I was kinda surprised that there wasn't a thread on Jagodzinski. That was hilarious and quite awesome all at the same time.
Tom_Blogical
· 10 months ago
Yeah, I saw that and commented right away that it was a classless act. I don't know which player did it, but that was disgusting.
TampaGator
· 10 months ago
Hate to open up the can of worms, but it reminds of Earnest Graham in '01--but at least this guy kinda' checked himself before going to far with it.
You are right though; NFL would've hammered him financially, and his fellow players throughout the league woulda' made it very clear that that sh*t don't fly.
GO GATORS!!
PittsburghTiger
· 10 months ago
I wonder how bad UF would have beaten them if the Gators were a healthy team?
Tebow is an amazing player. And that is a wonderful team, a joy to watch.
TampaGator
· 10 months ago
For all you Gator haters--and Gators too:
I posted this a little before the game (several thereads ago now), so it probably went a little less noticed than normal. Anyway, it's actually more relevent today than yesterday. It's an article that should earn your respect for this resilient Gator squad (remember "ACL-U"?)--in case they haven't earned it already:
On the Harvin leg issue just another gutless reaction by a GASSED OU defense. Not the first time it has happened in a big game by a Stoops coached team. Deplorable!
CONGRATS TO GATORNATION. Well deserved National Title.
OU_Fan
· 10 months ago
Name another time. Give me a date and name the opponent. Besides, its not like Bama hasn't been on probation or anything recently.
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
Not worth the time or effort. No debate on BAMA still standing proud! You're right OU has always played with great CLASS??????
The_Observer
· 10 months ago
You are embarrassing.
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
UTAH BEN I am a BAMA fan and I applaud you on your victory and I personally welcome a playoff not only for teams like Utan but also for teams like the USC's of the world. For the past couple of years we have all had to hear USC claim to be the best after beating some wretched little 10 school in the ROSE BOWL.
A playoff would provide both the UTAH's of the world and the USC's (who just happen to lose to a DUCK or BEAVER) late in the season a chance to prove on the field. This isn't the reality however, unfortunately the system is what we have as college football fans. Until there is a change the advantage goes to the SUPERCONFERENCEs.
Ben Prather
· 10 months ago
We need a playoff for the teams like Florida 2006 and 2008 and USC 2004 to earn a championship that is not tarnished with undefeated teams claiming a share.
If we get a SEC vs. USC game out of the deal all the better. That is one thing Utah has over USC. We have beat the SEC in a BCS Bowl game.
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
One more comment for OU fan. Maybe just maybe the fact that OU has been to 4 of 9 national title games and lost 5 BCS bowl games in a row maybe they don't deserve to be there????????
OU_Fan
· 10 months ago
With the BCS, the question will always be there as to who should be there and who shouldn't. However, what we have is what we have and personally I like the BCS. Would a playoff be more fair? Most definately. However, if you want my opinion, it irks when I hear about our nation's politicians and current president elect complaining about the BCS. Isn't there more important things to worry about? Like I don't know, an ongoing war in Iraq and Afghanistan, our troop death toll getting higher and higher everyday, the auto industry, the economy?? WTF man......BOOMER!
FSU_Ben
· 10 months ago
Personally I would rather the man messed with college football because I have no confidence in his ability to fix grown-up problems.
I would like to point out troop death tolls are always going to get higher in ongoing action, it's like saying people keep crapping in the toilet every day. People keep eating food every day. People sit on benches every day. It is what they are made for (soldiers), fighting, dying, and keeping you safe. We hope for the best but unfortunatly they are intended for the worst (6 years active duty army during both ongoing conflicts talking). They know what they are getting into signing up at least 98% of the time. I did see an occasional person that wouldn't know what they were getting into sitting on aforementioned toilet. Your proposal to end the conflict to my email would be nice. Hopefully it doesn't involve unilateral withdrawls and 2000 civilians dead on our shores in a single day because we removed the chance "to earn your virgins" by shooting at a man who is more than 10x more likely to kill you than you are him (statistically) and they move operations back here. It doesn't end, you just have to decide where you like your killing. 10+:1 in Iraq or 2,752:19 in America.
OU_Fan
· 10 months ago
OH, and why should past results matter? Why should a team not be allowed to compete for a game due to the fact of their past performances? If thats your mind set, we might as well throw rules out the window....BOOMER!
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
OK lets deal with this year alone. OU lost to UT should have played for the BIG 12 championship, PERIOD. Past results don't matter so OUFan shouldn't beat their chest that OU has played in 4 of 9 national title games!
TigerEducated
· 10 months ago
If they shouldn't matter, then why did you bring them up?
You're arguing both sides of the argument here...
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
CONGRATS to OUFAN on yet another successful season and yet another loss in a BCS game.
The_Observer
· 10 months ago
What are you saying? Oklahoma sucks because they have made it to the BCS so often? Are you serious?!? What has Alabama done in the same time span? You are a joke Bamalodi and an embarrassment to your fanbase!
Ridiculous.
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
Only joke here is OU fans and BIG GAME BOB!
OU_Ron
· 10 months ago
What's your problem pal, you act like you had a dog in that fight last night. are pissed because OU didn't win or because Bama wasn't in it ??? what ??
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 10 months ago
Lost his rent money to a bookie, perhaps?
Tough loss, Ron. I feel for you, brother. Hearing any serious gripes about Stoops, or just the normal static?
OU_Ron
· 10 months ago
Not yet, but there will always be a few idiots calling for his head, they need to think who they could get that would be as good.......as far as I'm concerned,...no one..
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
Can't be pissed BAMA wasn't in it they didn't win the SEC! Also pretty sure you have an option to read and reply or read and ignore, correct?
OU_Ron
· 10 months ago
I see, then you just like rant over nothing, not surprised..
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
I'll give you some fodder. Stoops has been whining for years about OU being given their chances to compete for a national title and it seems that the BCS and Pollsters listen. For me it goes back to '04 when Stoops whined enough to get into the BCS game over a more deserving Auburn team.
Auburn deserved to be in that game the politician from Norman got in. USC could have score 100 that night against OU. Not a AUBURN fan but they were disrespected.
OU_Ron
· 10 months ago
OK, i get it....you're a Bama fan, not a Auburn fan, but you're pissed because Auburn was disrespected in 04........it took you 5 years later to vent your frustrations.......on behalf of this OU fan, I apologize to Auburn...
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
I am glad you were able to determine I was an Alabama fan, very astute on your part.
Zac
· 10 months ago
Wait a minute here. Doesn't this guy sound like Coondawg with half an education? Sorry, rama...bama...yoda, it's an old joke.
Bevo_Boy
· 10 months ago
Dude, calm down, even I, being a Texas fan, have to admit that OU deserved that shot at the NC as much as any other team. No matter how much I may have argued it, OU played as well as any team most of the season and earned their way to that game. I make think it was unfair for them to leave Texas out, but Texas should not have let that game against Tech slip. Congrats to OU and the fans, you had a great season and gave Florida a good game.
P.S. I even watched the game with my friend who's an OU fan at bdubs. Crowd was split about 50/50 there. And OU_Ron, sorry for the trouble I gave you back in the last couple weeks in the regular season, I was pretty mad because I knew what was going to happen to Texas.
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
Bevo_Boy why did OU "deserve" to be in the BIG 12 championships game over UT? I am intrigued with your thoughts as a UT fan?
Bevo_Boy
· 10 months ago
They finished with the same conference record, beating the team that beat Texas to get a tie in the Big XII South. Both teams were deserving to play, I'm not saying OU deserved it more than Texas. Would I have preferred that Texas played in the Big XII CG? Of course, but OU did what it took to get back in the discussion.
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
I'll buy that.
Has the BIG 12 reviewed their tie-breaker rules? Seems like that was a point of contention in teh BIG 12 south.
Bevo_Boy
· 10 months ago
I haven't heard of any changes yet, but I hope so because those clearly weren't the two best teams playing for the Big XII championship.
OU_Ron
· 10 months ago
No problem BB, I would have felt the same way, in fact I did, just because Texas beat us head to head.......both teams had a great season, we have along time to get ready for the next..
OU_Fan
· 10 months ago
I'm willing to bet you wouldn't have the slightest clue as to how to coach football. Let alone, a collegiate powerhouse like OU. BOOMER!
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
BTW The_Observer if you will read my quote I congratulated OU and never said OU sucked. That came from you?
Who are you anyway to state who is embarrasing???
AMAZING
The_Observer
· 10 months ago
I am a graduate of the fine University of Alabama, are you? I was in Tuscaloosa when Oklahoma traveled there in 2003 (Were you?) and I clearly remember thinking Oklahoma fans were some of the best to ever visit the University and I still do. They were gracious and genuinely loved their football team. They were not obnoxious (Bamalodi) or disrepectful (Bamalodi) and I would appreciate it if you stopped representing my alma mater in such a poor light.
That's who I am.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 10 months ago
Why not fly a jack on the main mast then, Observer?
The_Observer
· 10 months ago
Well, my fandom is a little complicated. I grew up in Florida as a Florida fan, but ended up in getting a degree in engineering as well as a degree in life in Tuscaloosa. I consider myself a Florida fan, but I'll admit that it is getting more and more difficult for me to tell the difference in my feelings for Florida and Alabama after my experiences in T-town. I have a ton of great memories and a lot of love for Alabama, but it is hard for me to get used to putting myself in the same group of fans like Bamalodi.
Yeah, you are a disgrace Bamalodi.
Anyways, back to the original topic, I'm not sure why I haven't done that. I never really thought about it. I'll get around to it soon.
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
Once again what gives you the right to call anyone on a "blog" site a disgrace, The_Observer????
I am bantering back and forth just like you are. Oh well your opinion good thing we still live in a country where we can all have one.
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
Thanks The_Observer for your resume.
No I am not a graduate of the University of Alabama. No I did not have the opportunity to be in the Tuscaloosa in 2003 I was in service of this great nation outside the friendly confines of the US borders. I am glad you enjoyed yourself. I am glad you have great experiences with OU fans I have not. I respect your opinion whether you respect mine is completely up to you. I will respond as I see fit without regard to how you deem that "represents" your alma mater.
Bama_Babe
· 10 months ago
Thank you Obsever. I agree.
I was in Tuscaloosa in 2003 when OU played here and I also made the trip to Norman in 2002. I loved the atmosphere there and the fans just added to it - showed a lot of class and were very kind to us.
Bamalodi, just go away.
OU_Ron
· 10 months ago
Shhhh, keep that quiet BB, we'll lose our rep with the Texas fans..;-)
BamaBorn
· 10 months ago
I have no problem with OU fans. As a matter of fact I pulled for OU last night.. I hate it when Bama fans give the BamaNation a bad name on this forum.
Bevo_Boy
· 10 months ago
No, I think most Texas fans think of the scrotum ripper as the prototypical OU fan lol jk.
TheMayor
· 10 months ago
I second the class of The Sooner Nation when they travel. They came to Eugene in 2006, we jobbed them, yet they showed total class with the robbery.
Zac
· 10 months ago
Now, he's sounding something like Coondawg's wife...with half an education. (They used to tag-team on this site. She was a little more reasonable than him...just a little.)
Bevo_Boy
· 10 months ago
He didn't seem too bad when he was talking to me, actually. He didn't really seem to fond of The_Observer, though.
Zac
· 10 months ago
Leave it to Bevo to "Make peace with Sketskies..."
I don't believe I just referenced The Dark Crystal.
Bevo_Boy
· 10 months ago
I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. The way that you put it, is it a good thing or a bad thing? lol
Zac
· 10 months ago
Just mess'n wit ya, Bev.
Bevo_Boy
· 10 months ago
K. Still not sure what it means... but then again, maybe that's a good thing.
hrposon
· 10 months ago
Were you able to get home for the Holidays? It's been over seven years now without an external attack on the US. Keep up the good work. Now if we can only fend off the internal enemies.
BamaBorn
· 10 months ago
Bamalodi, who ARE you? I don't remember seeing you here before today. BTW, Bama hasn't done so well in bowl games the last 10 years. Don't keep embarrassing the BamaNation.
Bamalodi
· 10 months ago
Agree I do not frequent this site and from the response of this site it apppears that it might be closed site.
I have nothing negative against The_Observer he redirected my words, to say I said OU sucks for playing in 4 of 9 national title games when I didn't say that.
It is amazing however that a person from a blog site can feels as if they can dictate who is embarrassing or disgraceful. I missed where Bamaborn and The_Observer were the President and Vice President of Bamanation.
Answer to your question is I am Alabama Football Fan that cares about naming a true national champion!
As far as embarrassing or disgracing bamanation that is your opinion. This is stil an opinion based blog right?
Bama_Babe
· 10 months ago
Congrats to Florida!
I'd like to thank both teams on giving us all a great game to watch.
It's going to be a long offseason...
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 10 months ago
Maybe now you can attend classes again, BB!
:-)
Bama_Babe
· 10 months ago
Lol, my dad said the same thing...
"Remember you are up there to get an education, not just go to the football games and chase the players around..."
Riiight. Like I would ever do that!
;)
Zac
· 10 months ago
I know I am about to get H'd like crazy, but are there any young eligible bachelors out there who are not looking at this gal? HELLO!!! She's attractive, intelligent, and LOVES FOOTBALL. Now, I'm no yenta, mind you, but what more can you want? She even likes Beer, for crying out loud.
I don't get it, Bama Babe. Some guys don't know a good thing when it's stare'n em in the face.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 10 months ago
h
:-) Hey, I even think she's of similar heritage as you, Zac. Maybe if you were a little younger and she was a little less sane...
We're going to have to change the name of this blog to FanBAR, as many guys that flirt with Bama Babe...
All she wanted to do was come in and have fun with her friends. She wasn't looking to meet anybody...
Clemson_Joe
· 10 months ago
I'm not sure if anyone else has brought it up yet, since I haven't read all of the comments about the game, but I, along with seemingly every single one of my coworkers/friends seemed to think that the officiating was pretty pathetic. There were lots of missed holding calls, a blatant pass interference no call, and plenty others. I will say that it seemed to go both ways for the most part, but that pass interference was absurd.
So, for the whole ACC, I'd like to apologize to both teams for our abomination of a referee, Ron Cherry. Every time I see him at one of our games I cringe and expect to have the game stolen away. When I saw him at the game last night, I honestly felt embarrassed. Maybe the bad calls were balanced enough to not effect the outcome of the game, but can the NCAA seriously not find a better referee for the National Championship? I sincerely hope that it has not come to that.
GeauxTigers0107
· 10 months ago
I noticed early on that they were trying to hard to not miss a call. Just ticky-tacky stuff left and right. It was really slowing the game down, esp in the 1st quarter.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
Zac
· 10 months ago
My Turn:
I would have thought we would have seen more Gator Mates on this thread. Guys like Gator Hippy, Gator Matt, Luke (Haven't seen him in a while, though), Gator Stud, and the rest are suprisingly absent. Which in my opinion goes to the character of most. They're not on here flanting another, deserved by the way, NC. No, instead they're relaxing somewhere basking in the glow of another Crystal Trophy, taking it all in. While many of the Gator Mates have been known for some of the most creative and intelectual smack I've ever observed, they're part of the reason I keep coming back to this site. There's nothing like sitting around with a group of guyz & dollz fanz, not talking about why part of the group's team did win or should have won, rather just talking about how THE game was won. Too Cool!!!
Sincere accolades, laud, props, & congrats to another great victory by the team of a fine school. It's well deserved. ENJOY!!!
Now, here's the bad news: The rest of the country will have to deal with the likes of Tim Tebow for at least ONE MORE YEAR! Chew on that for a while. (OWWW!!!)
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 10 months ago
Hippy's probably still in Miami. The rest of that bunch we haven't seen on here in a while...
Mr2Bits
· 10 months ago
Did Tebow announce he's coming back?
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 10 months ago
He shall return. To the Phillipines, this summer, just like McArthur. For some more unlicensed surgery...
Anyone hear of the hypothetical odds coming out of Vegas yesterday? Florida would be a 14 point favorite over Utah, 11 over Texas and a 5 point favorite over USC.
OU_Ron
· 10 months ago
I heard he was skipping his senior year and ascending straight to heaven..;-)
Zac
· 10 months ago
That got more than a chuckle outta me; funny stuff, Ron!
Tommy_Trojan
· 10 months ago
Gators did the job! Congrats to the Gator Nation!
I liked the "grind it out game" that the Gators put on. Not too much "flash" from them - but they were able to get this one "down and dirty". In contrast to the loss to Mississippi, which Tebow wasn't gonna let happen again, they were able to "wear down" Oklahoma. I was really impressed with Sam Bradford. Going into the game, and without having seen too much pressure, I wasn't too sure what all the NFL rave was about. Well, with guys "in his face", he was making some tremendously accurate passes. The running back Brown also had a great game for Oklahoma in the absence of Murray. All in all, Oklahoma did play a tougher game than I had thought that they might. I was pretty impressed with their effort in this one.
That said, Florida's effort, was even more enlightening. That's the thing that I like about the Gators. They do give tremendous effort and don't get down on themselves. That's great coaching. I thought that they started up a little sluggish, as Oklahoma had taken some early momentum, but they were able to be persistent in the game plan. I thought that both coaches had made a few blunders. Especially the series where Oklahoma's gonna punt, Stoop's thinks Florida's up to something and calls a timeout, Meyer follows that up with another time out - and then Florida goes and "rough's the kicker" trying to block a punt when all they needed was possession. I thought that in that critical situation - it was kinda strange to have to have the need to try and block that punt. Fortunately, Florida did survive.
Florida is the BCS National Champion. They finished up the year as the # 1 ranked team in AP, Coaches poll and the Sagarin Rating system (which measures on-field performance). Of course, my gripe has always been, that the next best team never gets into these games. Once again, every indication, is that that didn't happen. Not that it would have mattered much. Florida's will to win that game was intense. It might not have mattered who was on that field opposite of them.
Zac
· 10 months ago
Well said, Tommy T, but I guess we'll never know.
Diggs_the_Mountie
· 10 months ago
The Gators won it all Tommy T, but can you tell me what this Gator Fan wins for this pic?
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#1 Pac-10 (5-0)
#2 SEC (6-2)
#3 Big East (4-2)
#4t C-USA (3-2)
#4t MWC (3-2)
#6 Big 12 (4-3)
#7t Sun Belt (1-1)
#7t FBS Ind (1-1)
#9 ACC (4-6)
#10 WAC (1-4)
#11 Big Ten (1-5)
#12 MAC (0-5)
Wow...
What about a win over Oregon State the week after they beat USC? What about a win over TCU, who finished in the top 10 in both polls? What about BYU in the top 25 in both polls?
Oklahoma, Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss and FSU. Utah plays two of those I got to think they win one. Then we would be right where Florida is.
We need a better system.
No, Utah WANTS a system that is better for THEMSELVES. If Utah doesn't step their game up with scheduling, then prepare to left out over and over again.
You WANT people to recognize Utah as a legitimate team, but it is NOT going to happen unless stop playing a sub par schedule.
Seriously, TCU and BYU are Utah's big wins! TCU played 2 decent teams, Oklahoma and Utah, both losses. The remainder of the schedule is flatout embarrassing! Voters should be ashamed of even putting them in the Top 25.
The same thing goes for BYU, but even worse! The only legitimate team they played was Utah...they got torched!
Quite frankly, Utah played a worse schedule than either TCU or BYU because they didn't have to play themselves! Utah fans shouldn't be calling for a new system, they should be calling for their team to step it up with the "big boys"! If you think you deserve a NC then play a schedule worthy of a NC. Utah's season is not worthy of a championship. Period.
Utah gained some credibility for topping Alabama, but that seemed more like a shock and awe campaign for the first 11 minutes. It only took Alabama 1 quarter to figure out how to contain Utah's offense when Alabama never even came close to seeing an offense like that all year. By that time though it was too little too late. Utah's passion was impressiive, but certainly not National Championship wortthy.
Ben, stop asking for the system to change. The system isn't the problem for Utah, it's the schedule. Your schedule deserves no respect from the SEC, Big 12, or Pac 10.
Let me just say that Utah COULD be the best team in the land but if you don't have it proven by beating quality opponents then how is anyone going to know?
One more analogy...If I supped up a Civic and told everyone it could go 200mph, but then I never took it out of the neighborhood, then why would anyone believe me?
Did you follow all that because I'm not sure that I did?
Alabama?
We thought Michigan was going to be good.
You also forget TCU and BYU played each other.
You forget that the MWC went 6-2 vs the PAC 10. Sure three of those wins came from Utah, TCU and BYU, but so did one of the losses. The PAC 10 and MWC went a combined 7-1 vs. other conferences this year.
The MWC is 2-0 vs the SEC, including SEC West winner Alabama and MWC cellar dweller Wyoming.
The PAC 10 is 1-1 vs the SEC.
The BCS ignored the west this year. How many Harris voters need to admit they did not watch a single Utah game until the Sugar Bowl to convince you that maybe the system is broken?
Alabama...vastly overachieved, faced Utah without the backbone of its offfense.
Thinking Michigan was going to be good doesn't make them good. Unfortunate for Utah, but Michigan is terrible.
No, I didn't forget that TCU and BYU played each other. Two crappy teams playing each other doesn't make them better.
Look, you can throw stats like "the MWC went 6-2 vs the PAC 10" around all you want, but that is doesn't make the MWC any better, Let's take a closer look at that one...starting with Utah, TCU and BYU.
Utah beat Oregan State (9-4) 31-28, not exactly dominant.
TCU beat Stanford (5-7) 31-14, congratulations TCU!
BYU beat Washington (0-12), give me a friggin' break Ben!
Then you have more unimpressive victories with the best one's being New Mexico and BYU over Arizona. Arizona (4-8) isn't exactly powerhouse football. Oh, I forgot to mention BYU ripping UCLA (4-8) an new one 59-0 (This one is sort of impressive even if UCLA was dismal).
The Alabama game was covered.
Wyoming over Tennessee, well, Tenn fired their coach didn' they? Nuff said.
So, the Pac-10 is 1-1 vs. the SEC. What does that have to do with Utah having a weak schedule?
The BCS didn't ignore the West. USC lost to Oregon State and didn't have the schedule strength to make up for it. They are probaly the best team in the country (for years now), but they slipped up.
I'm sure most of the country didn't watch more than a few minutes of Utah football until the Sugar Bowl. How many Utah games were nationally televised, much less interesting. I suppose the Michigan game was watched by a few folks (well atleast some ESPN highlights), but by the end of the season that game doesn't make much of an impact. Outside the state of Utah, not many people are talking Ute football or MWC football. In fact, I challenge everyone on Fanblogs to name as many MWC teams as you can without looking it up. How many did you get...3? Yeah me too, Utah, BYU and TCU. I'm lying, I actually didn't know that BYU and TCU were in the MWC until I looked up Utah's schedule. Call me ignorant, but I've never had it come up. I've never needed/wanted to know about MWC football.
I know your dissappointed Ben, but going around spewing empty stats is intellectually dishonest. Stop deluding yourself and just be happy about your season. For crying out loud, your team just had the best season in it's history. Sorry, it wasn't good enough.
If you are goiong to dismiss Alabama because they lost their most dominating player lets not forget Utah was missing players as well. Maybe the SEC needs some depth like a MWC team.
I saw every single game at Buffalo Wild Wings this year. Perhapse the MWC was hurt by a bad TV deal. People talk about what ESPN tells them to, just listen to everything you have said. You don't want to know about MWC football because ESPN has been ignoring them for not selling out for a lower price to their marketing package.
The MWC did not want to play at all hours of the week for 1/10th of the money they are getting from their current TV deal.
I am elated at the season. I am dissappointed that some people can't see the writing on the wall.
The reality of the weakness is truly visible when you have to type out a long list of teams that would fit better in the HCC (HomeComing Conference).
Ok, so Oregan State went 8-4 and won their bowl game 3-0. Sorry I dismissed them as a National Championship argument. You're right, that really is a signature win for Utah!
You've changed my mind Ben! UTAH DOES DESERVE A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
Oh wait, no they don't.
I believe we have established a stand still, so no point really in arguing the point.
I'm not dismissing them, but by the Sugar Bowl it's too late. You were lucky enough to get put in a BCS game, much less counting on that win to give you a split NC. What was Utah's strategy to win a NC? Was there one? I going to guess that noone at Utah truly thought it was possible to win a NC. Now that you guys came sooo close, it is just difficult for you to admit that it wasn't ever part of the plan and therefore Utah didn't properly set themselves up for one.
I bet in the future, when the Utah is planning it's football schedule, they will take a look at it from a different perspective. You guys will always remember the year 2009 as the year your schedule kept you from winning a National Title.
Or you could email the Harris Poll voters and give them directions to their nearest Buffalo Wild Wings. Whichever.
At Block U discussions started the season with what would be a good year.
I stated 2 of these three:
1) 10 wins
2) beat BYU
3) win a Bowl Game
Several of us were critical of Whittingham, a situation that persisted for a third of the season. Then we became critical of Ludwig or offensive coordinator.
Our hopes of a national title hinged on Michigan performing well. That did not happen.
Needless to say our team out performed our expectations. Only in our wildest imaginations could we have dreamed of such a season.
Even then we knew a BCS title was out of the question. We appealed to our only real possibility for a legitimate championship in a mass e-mail campaign ending with a quarter of the AP voters picking Utah.
We lost the vote after a hard campaign, but will hang our head proud.
We made the radar. Our conference made the radar. Next year we will at least be looked at.
2/3 of our schedule is our conference. Until a BCS conference comes knocking on Utah's door the schedule argument aligns yourself with the BCS and the southern antebellum ideals it stands for.
I know they have data to support Utah, they all got 300+ pro-Utah emails from utefans.net readers in the 18 hours they ran an e-mail blitz. A handful wrote pieces on it.
Only two teams showed they can take a month off and still come out ready to play ball. Cheers to Utah and USC.
less than 95. Sorry gators, but you are not going to hear the end of this.
AP :
1.Florida (48)
2.Utah (16)
3.USC (1)
4.Texas
5.Oklahoma
6.Alabama
7.TCU
8.Penn St.
9.Ohio St.
10.Oregon
Coaches:
Florida (60)
USC
Texas
Utah (1)
Oklahoma
Alabama
TCU
Penn St.
Oregon
Georgia
Utah has a more ligitimate claim to the title this year than BYU had in 1984. We actually faced some decent competition.
Utah has been lobbying to join the PAC 10 for over a decade, falling on ears as deaf as Boise's attempts to join the MWC.
25% of the media voted to Utah to be #1. If Utah had a loss we would not be clamouring as loud as we will. Has Auburn forgotten 2004?
Utah fans feel the BCS failed us. In the process the BCS failed Florida by not providing a championship free from the tarish of an undefeated team being excluded before the season even began. At least USC was undefeated in 2004.
And then we turn around from football and our Basketball team beats LSU to get into the top 25. It is a good time for the Ute Nation.
It will be interesting to see if any conferences make any invites this year. The only one I really see on the horizon is the MWC inviting Boise State.
Now back to FOOTBALL!
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
Who?
Nice job, Stoops...
Some folks might want to stand out of the way, because I'm completely p!ssed drunk, after having consumed some Absinthe at a friend's house...
Oh yeah...Here goes...an ode to Bobby Stoops...
WHEN THE FACK ARE YOU GOING TO BEAT ANYONE THAT MATTERS NOT IN THE BIGXII CHAMIONSHIP GAME?
WHEN IN THE BLUE F*CK ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE OUT THE CATTLEPROD AN ADMITTEDLY SUSPECT FLORIDA DEFENSE STUCK SO DEEPLY INSIDE, AND THEN BROKE OFF IN YOUR RECTUM?
WHEN IS YOUR COACH GOING TO UNPUCKER HIS ACEHOLE AND STOP TRANSLATING SUCH TIGHTNESS IN BIG GAMES TO HIS TEAM?
WHEN IS A HEISMAN TROPHY WINNER GOING TO WIN A NATIONAL TITLE, OTHER THAN GARBAGE QB'S LIKE KEN DORSEY OR DANNY WAFFLEHOUSE?
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO FIND SOME KRYPTONITE FOR THAT 800 POUND GORILLA WITH A CHAINSAW FOR A PENIS THAT RAN THROUGH YOUR DEFENSE? YOU KNOW...THE ONE THAT HAD #15 ON HIS JERSEY...SOME DUDE NAMED TEBOW? THE ONE THAT LIKES THE JORTS...?
SERIOUSLY....SOMEONE GET BORDEN ON THE LINE, AND GET HIM INTO A FIRST AID CLASS...HOW MANY TIMES WILL BIG GAME NOB YELL OUT BEFORE THE BRASS IN NORMAL, OKLAHOMA REALIZE HE NEEDS THE HEIMLICH MANUEVER PERFORMED IN ANY OUT OF CONFERENCE POST-SEASON GAME?
Now...someone shold thi ssoap box steady while I climb down...It's late, I've been pounding Absinthe, I'm completely off the plot, and I felt like going on a tear of a rant....
OU_Ron...NML_Sooner...All others I may have offneded...My apologies in advance...I'll deal with it when I wake up in the mawnin, ladies & gents...
Congrats Gators, congrats Urine Cryer, and congrats to TIMMY EFFING TEBOW...Quite possibly the guttiest, ballsiest, stone-cold-fire-breathing-Jesus-Freak-Warrior-For-Yaweh the world-much less college football-has ever known...
Dude's got a will the size of Texas, and a heart the size of the deficit...Freaking MAN...
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
He looked at her, REAL drunk-like, and said, "Firsht of all, shutsh yer PIEHOLE! Shecond of all..." Then he passed out.
To this day when my wife is chattering a bit too much, I'll jokingly say, "Firsht of all, shutsh yer PIEHOLE!"
Reminds me of a funnier joke:
Guy get home from the bar completely hammered with a live chicken under his arm.
He knocks on the door really loud. Wife wakes up, comes downstairs and opens the door, only to find her husband all sh_t-faced with a chicken under his arm.
Guy says "This is the pig that I'm F'ing".
Wife says, "you drunk azzhole, that's not a pig under your arm".
Guy says, "I know....I was talking to the chicken." LMMFAO!!
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
Congradulations to the Gators. The defense played a hell of a game, and Tebow decided to put the offense on his shoulders in the second half (even though I still think Harvin should have been player of the game, but Tebow tied his shoes correctly so he wins it by default).
Something deep down and evil in me wanted Tebow to get caught with a hooker after the game. He IS the best player in the nation and a hell of a good kid off the field, but it's hard to sit through a game with the announcers drooling over him for 3 hours. Quote of the night, "In a world that focuses on the negative, if you'll spend just 5 minutes or 20 minutes with this young man, it will improve your life." GIVE ME A FRICKIN' BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!
Congrats, again.
He doesn't seem real to me. I don't know anyone like him and I think his demeanor is creepy. No one should be that sure of anything at 21 years old, let alone difficult questions of faith with which people struggle their entire lives. I respect him for his good works but will draw the line there.
It's not religion per se; Colt McCoy gave the obligatory shout-out to the divine after his bowl win, but it seemed less rehearsed and more real. Tebow rubs a lot of people the wrong way and we are not weird or anti-Christian to think so.
I'm glad he was born in the Philippines and can't run for president when the time comes.
I have to call shenanigans on your hate here. Think about this for one second. What were your doing at 21 years of age? Probably drinking beer and rubbing one off to the JC-Penny catalog your mom leaves by the crapper.
Tebow on the other hand has been through more life experiences than 100 people together. I think if you spend 5 good minutes with ANYONE in this world and talk about life experiences and their values it changes your life in some way. In this case, your talking about not only one of the greatest college football players in history but also one of the most idolizing off the field human-beings this sport has ever seen. Any time speaking with Tebow will change your life I guarantee it.
If anyone has a problem with Tebow's moral and religious stand, then they may want to check out the thugs who normally get the spotlight in professional sports (and increasingly, college). Which do you prefer?
Curious--did you call the Dan Silio show this morning?
Thanks for congrats.
GO GATORS!!
As for the Big Dog--he's entertaining, but a bit much. He can't conceal the his Philly roots.
GO GATORS!!
Let's set his religious beliefs completely aside for the sake of argument. If you've ever seen his girlfriend, you already know that there is a zero percent chance of that happening. Unless the guy has a ridiculously dangerous sex addiction.
I gotta try some absinthe, now that's it's legal in the US again...
Did you and Mrs. Mayor not care to portake? Were the other couples doing it straight, or mixed? (the alcohol, not each other...)
1. I own a bottle from Farnce
2. I have never tried it..fear.
3. My wife hates Lake Tahoe, outside activities, me and sports in general.
I had a chance to smuggle some out of France a few years ago. I chickened out from a possible confrontation with US customs in the immediate post 9/11 climate...
Somebody contact TE and make sure he's okay. He's got to be at work in the moring...
I did come away with more respect for OU after this game. They have a very good team, and have nothing to be ashamed of, including Stoops.
Edit: The SEC now has the highest average, showing that the SEC is the strongest. The ACC is still the deepest as Duke comes in with a 57. The SEC is the closest, with Miss. State coming in at 97.
I ask that seriously. Duke makes quite a bit of football money (as well as basketball of course) but hasn't fielded a good team for a long time unless you count this year. USC doesn't have to be competetive either even though they have beaten everyone on thier side since Spurriers arrival. They could sit there and the the worst and still take home a huge chunk of cash. This money pays for the other sports they play (as well as basketball money of course).
My point is, is football success important for USC? They havn't had much and still have a huge fanbase, travel well and make a bonanza of money each year from both the conference and ticket sales. Success is important for ACC programs Miami and to a lesser extent Florida State. I sometimes wonder why either craved a more competetive conference.
I agree. They could in the past. This year the tables were turned, as evidenced by bottom of the ACC Duke beating middle of the pack SEC Vanderbilt in Vanderbilt.
Just out of curiosity, I'd love to see Florida, Ole Miss, Georgia, etc. play without their starting QB. There are plenty of them across the country, and again, there's no excuse to not having a capable back up, but the reality is that most teams don't have one. Take away the QB and you've beached the whale that swam so powerfully through the season. Miami (by his own volition) and BC (via injury) got to show how that works out this season. I'm sure we'll see it again next season with other teams. It is truly a special team that can recover, and BC and Miami proved that wasn't them.
Florida beating Oklahoma proves that Florida is better than Oklahoma, and maybe that the SEC was better than the Big XII this year. However, it does nothing to prove that the ACC is not the deepest conference.
The two boys are making comments on a river (the ACC) that they shouldn't have any direct evidence of given the story. They are fans of another river (the SEC and teams that went 1-1 specifically against the other "river"). They shouldn't make comments about the first river (the ACC) that they have no direct evidence of and are simply making because they are homers of it's geographic rival (or the closest thing to it). Am I getting the gist?
The players and team are perfectly content with a perfect season and the best team in school history. They put all their marbles on the field and beat a highly regarded Alabama team adding to their 8 game bowl winning streak.
Us fans are very happy with our team. We are elated to end the season #2. Some of us thought we would be fortunate to get into the top 25.
Singing, Dancing, and chanting 4POINT5 Mill-ion, clap, clap, clap clap clap. That is the tone of the day.
Though underappreciated by some, you're right; it has been a season of seasons for the Utes. My sincere congratulations!!!
Please tell me your not a UF fan as we don't need this type of stereotype
Classless play by the Sooner who pulled and twisted Harvin's ankle. I caught that play immediately (we play Va. Tech every year, so I'm used to seeing it). Harvin won alot of respect from this Cane fan last night.
I'm suggesting it would have been obvious if it was serious attempt to injure him I realize we can't see a little pig pile pinching but I should hope a player wouldn't even mention that.
I hope such a comment isn't directed at Florida State. It really doesn't matter your conditioning (Harvin's) if 250-300 pound kids want to purposely hurt you they can and will. It would not be a matter of attempt he wouldn't get 3 plays off. Given the general design of the sport I would think a fan would realize people aren't trying to hurt each other on purpose or they would certainly succeed most of the time.
Tebow suggested FSU fans cheered when he limped off the field too, I guess he doesn't know that is what fans of most fans do when a player is ok. They are happy he isn't more seriously injured. I doubt half the fans even knew his number.
I wonder what we should expect from players and fans who think along such lines.
Football injuries are different when they happen in during the play but when you have a player twisting legs and ankles in attempts to injure/re-injure a player, that’s when things go too far.
Now that the season is over, I will admit it. With Harvin, the SEC Championship game could have been much uglier for us Bama fans....
Although, I have to give a nod to the D-line of Oklahoma. They were exceptional. Their defense represented well. Florida just managed to pull away in the end. I really enjoyed the game though. I probably would have enjoyed it more if it turned out to be the 41-38 air show that most were expecting, but still a great game, none-the-less.
So a big Congratulations to the Florida Gators and their fans on here. You guys did the SEC proud. Way to bring the title back....or actually keep the title where it belongs....in the Southeastern Conference.
And to the Sooner friends on here, don't take this personally.....this isn't meant for you....but just in case some certain someone is reading this:
CRIMSON AND CREAM..................FALSE
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Geaux SEC
I hate injuries; I don't care which team. I want my guys to go out there, match up with the other teams' guys head-to-head and beat them straight up.
It just isn't the same when you win over a second-stringer. And THAT'S when it's accidental.
Intentional? Someone needs to be Given the Business....
But then he comes back out 2 or 3 plays later and is running wild again. That's when it occured to me that maybe, just maybe, when he felt the tug at his ankles, he decided to play it up and bit. I dismissed the thought nearly as quick but obviously, it's still in the back of my mind.
Kinda similar thing happened last year in the NBA when Paul Pierce went down hard, had to be carried off the court, only to return and play like nothing happened.
Makes you go hhhmmmmmm................
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Sure would like to see the replay on You Tube but can't find it anywhere........
Percy didn't have a high ankle sprain, the OU player didn't know anything about it, and a tough-ass Percy Harvin seeking to impress NFL scouts who already have concerns about him being injury prone, figured he'd go ahead and avail himself of the opp'y to render his best impression of a soccer player on a conspicous national stage.....
What an idiotic, moronic, buffoonish, dumbass suggestion.
GO GATORS!!
NEVER ONCE DID I SAY HE DIDN'T HAVE A HIGH ANKLE SPRAIN FUKTARD. The kid even stayed over for the Christmas holidays to rehab it. The whole world saw that. I've got nothing but respect for him. You.....the exact opposite.
So take your adjectives and favorite cucumber and stick 'em up your azz.
= SUGGESTION--not a fleeting ("breifly crossed my mind") thought.
You're floating it out there like there's something to it, even comparing it to Paul Pierce, who all but admitted and apologized for "playing it up."
Keep your cucumber freak; I don't roll that way.
GO GATORS!!
Attaway ballbag......leave out the part that shows how much of an ass you really are.
"You're floating it out there like there's something to it, even comparing it to Paul Pierce, who all but admitted and apologized for "playing it up."
And you're telling me what I meant by something I said. What are you now....the illegitimate offspring of Ms Cleo and a jackass?
Just sayin.
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...and then posted about it the following day, compared it to Paul Pierce, and finished with...
"...makes you go hhhmmmmm..."
It's called drawing inference--not telling you what you meant.
Say what you want, spin is as you like; I'm reading what you're DOING.
GO GATORS!!
I can see how it can be taken that way....but seriously...all jokes, sarcasm and insults on the side...it wasn't meant that way.
When I said I dismissed it nearly as quick, that's exactly what happened. And if that offends you, well...I don't know what else to say. I don't think it warrants an apology because I know exactly what I meant.
So take it as you may...but all I've been doing before I was called several names was give the Gators and Percy Harvin props.
If you want to take it back to the gutter, we can. I just don't think there's a need for it.
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I can see where you might have wondered about Harvin's quick recovery, and it didn't offend me for you to throw it out as a possibility. It's not like you were making a strong case for it. . .
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You came back with the "F-tard" and "cucumber" retorts, then the Ms. Cleo/jk-ass stuff....
I may have taken a little more exception to the suggestion than was warranted, but it seemed like you were callin' Harvin out as a pussy. Dude was playing injured AND he was still money; hardly a puss in my book. Frankly, he impressed me more than Tebow did in that game. Thought he was de facto MVP even.
We're cool.
GO GATORS!!
Reply posted all the way at the bottom, for some strange reason only Discus understands.
edit: Now it's not there anymore. No telling where it went. So, to reitterate:
I definitely wasn't calling Harvin that. I've got nothing but respect for the guy. I'd love to have him in BR.
And yes we are. Peace.
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Glad you guys are hugs and kisses now...
I hear you guys have a new D-line coach. Maybe it's time for a "coaching carousel update" to include the latest hirings. We've got three new ones as well.
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I will say that I am quite impressed with the hires that Chizik has made so far, especially with Gus Malzahn as OC and Ted Roof, formerly Duke's HC, as DC.
You are right though; NFL would've hammered him financially, and his fellow players throughout the league woulda' made it very clear that that sh*t don't fly.
GO GATORS!!
Tebow is an amazing player. And that is a wonderful team, a joy to watch.
I posted this a little before the game (several thereads ago now), so it probably went a little less noticed than normal. Anyway, it's actually more relevent today than yesterday. It's an article that should earn your respect for this resilient Gator squad (remember "ACL-U"?)--in case they haven't earned it already:
http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20081227/NEW...
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CONGRATS TO GATORNATION. Well deserved National Title.
A playoff would provide both the UTAH's of the world and the USC's (who just happen to lose to a DUCK or BEAVER) late in the season a chance to prove on the field. This isn't the reality however, unfortunately the system is what we have as college football fans. Until there is a change the advantage goes to the SUPERCONFERENCEs.
If we get a SEC vs. USC game out of the deal all the better. That is one thing Utah has over USC. We have beat the SEC in a BCS Bowl game.
I would like to point out troop death tolls are always going to get higher in ongoing action, it's like saying people keep crapping in the toilet every day. People keep eating food every day. People sit on benches every day. It is what they are made for (soldiers), fighting, dying, and keeping you safe. We hope for the best but unfortunatly they are intended for the worst (6 years active duty army during both ongoing conflicts talking). They know what they are getting into signing up at least 98% of the time. I did see an occasional person that wouldn't know what they were getting into sitting on aforementioned toilet. Your proposal to end the conflict to my email would be nice. Hopefully it doesn't involve unilateral withdrawls and 2000 civilians dead on our shores in a single day because we removed the chance "to earn your virgins" by shooting at a man who is more than 10x more likely to kill you than you are him (statistically) and they move operations back here. It doesn't end, you just have to decide where you like your killing. 10+:1 in Iraq or 2,752:19 in America.
You're arguing both sides of the argument here...
Ridiculous.
Tough loss, Ron. I feel for you, brother. Hearing any serious gripes about Stoops, or just the normal static?
Auburn deserved to be in that game the politician from Norman got in. USC could have score 100 that night against OU. Not a AUBURN fan but they were disrespected.
P.S. I even watched the game with my friend who's an OU fan at bdubs. Crowd was split about 50/50 there. And OU_Ron, sorry for the trouble I gave you back in the last couple weeks in the regular season, I was pretty mad because I knew what was going to happen to Texas.
Has the BIG 12 reviewed their tie-breaker rules? Seems like that was a point of contention in teh BIG 12 south.
Who are you anyway to state who is embarrasing???
AMAZING
That's who I am.
Yeah, you are a disgrace Bamalodi.
Anyways, back to the original topic, I'm not sure why I haven't done that. I never really thought about it. I'll get around to it soon.
I am bantering back and forth just like you are. Oh well your opinion good thing we still live in a country where we can all have one.
No I am not a graduate of the University of Alabama.
No I did not have the opportunity to be in the Tuscaloosa in 2003 I was in service of this great nation outside the friendly confines of the US borders. I am glad you enjoyed yourself.
I am glad you have great experiences with OU fans I have not.
I respect your opinion whether you respect mine is completely up to you.
I will respond as I see fit without regard to how you deem that "represents" your alma mater.
I was in Tuscaloosa in 2003 when OU played here and I also made the trip to Norman in 2002. I loved the atmosphere there and the fans just added to it - showed a lot of class and were very kind to us.
Bamalodi, just go away.
I don't believe I just referenced The Dark Crystal.
It's been over seven years now without an external attack on the US. Keep up the good work.
Now if we can only fend off the internal enemies.
I have nothing negative against The_Observer he redirected my words, to say I said OU sucks for playing in 4 of 9 national title games when I didn't say that.
It is amazing however that a person from a blog site can feels as if they can dictate who is embarrassing or disgraceful. I missed where Bamaborn and The_Observer were the President and Vice President of Bamanation.
Answer to your question is I am Alabama Football Fan that cares about naming a true national champion!
As far as embarrassing or disgracing bamanation that is your opinion. This is stil an opinion based blog right?
I'd like to thank both teams on giving us all a great game to watch.
It's going to be a long offseason...
:-)
"Remember you are up there to get an education, not just go to the football games and chase the players around..."
Riiight. Like I would ever do that!
;)
I don't get it, Bama Babe. Some guys don't know a good thing when it's stare'n em in the face.
:-) Hey, I even think she's of similar heritage as you, Zac. Maybe if you were a little younger and she was a little less sane...
We're going to have to change the name of this blog to FanBAR, as many guys that flirt with Bama Babe...
All she wanted to do was come in and have fun with her friends. She wasn't looking to meet anybody...
So, for the whole ACC, I'd like to apologize to both teams for our abomination of a referee, Ron Cherry. Every time I see him at one of our games I cringe and expect to have the game stolen away. When I saw him at the game last night, I honestly felt embarrassed. Maybe the bad calls were balanced enough to not effect the outcome of the game, but can the NCAA seriously not find a better referee for the National Championship? I sincerely hope that it has not come to that.
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I would have thought we would have seen more Gator Mates on this thread. Guys like Gator Hippy, Gator Matt, Luke (Haven't seen him in a while, though), Gator Stud, and the rest are suprisingly absent. Which in my opinion goes to the character of most. They're not on here flanting another, deserved by the way, NC. No, instead they're relaxing somewhere basking in the glow of another Crystal Trophy, taking it all in. While many of the Gator Mates have been known for some of the most creative and intelectual smack I've ever observed, they're part of the reason I keep coming back to this site. There's nothing like sitting around with a group of guyz & dollz fanz, not talking about why part of the group's team did win or should have won, rather just talking about how THE game was won. Too Cool!!!
Sincere accolades, laud, props, & congrats to another great victory by the team of a fine school. It's well deserved. ENJOY!!!
Now, here's the bad news: The rest of the country will have to deal with the likes of Tim Tebow for at least ONE MORE YEAR! Chew on that for a while. (OWWW!!!)
Anyone hear of the hypothetical odds coming out of Vegas yesterday? Florida would be a 14 point favorite over Utah, 11 over Texas and a 5 point favorite over USC.
I liked the "grind it out game" that the Gators put on. Not too much "flash" from them - but they were able to get this one "down and dirty". In contrast to the loss to Mississippi, which Tebow wasn't gonna let happen again, they were able to "wear down" Oklahoma. I was really impressed with Sam Bradford. Going into the game, and without having seen too much pressure, I wasn't too sure what all the NFL rave was about. Well, with guys "in his face", he was making some tremendously accurate passes. The running back Brown also had a great game for Oklahoma in the absence of Murray. All in all, Oklahoma did play a tougher game than I had thought that they might. I was pretty impressed with their effort in this one.
That said, Florida's effort, was even more enlightening. That's the thing that I like about the Gators. They do give tremendous effort and don't get down on themselves. That's great coaching. I thought that they started up a little sluggish, as Oklahoma had taken some early momentum, but they were able to be persistent in the game plan. I thought that both coaches had made a few blunders. Especially the series where Oklahoma's gonna punt, Stoop's thinks Florida's up to something and calls a timeout, Meyer follows that up with another time out - and then Florida goes and "rough's the kicker" trying to block a punt when all they needed was possession. I thought that in that critical situation - it was kinda strange to have to have the need to try and block that punt. Fortunately, Florida did survive.
Florida is the BCS National Champion. They finished up the year as the # 1 ranked team in AP, Coaches poll and the Sagarin Rating system (which measures on-field performance). Of course, my gripe has always been, that the next best team never gets into these games. Once again, every indication, is that that didn't happen. Not that it would have mattered much. Florida's will to win that game was intense. It might not have mattered who was on that field opposite of them.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MbxK92cuoJk/SWtpT5uYd...
There's your sharty news for the bowl season Kev.
No comment for you...