What about Iowa State? They're now having to replace Chizik and that's in the Nebraska neighborhood, which might fit Gill pretty well...at least 364 days a year...
Zac
· 11 months ago
I think Tomcat heard somewhere that IA St may be hiring Tuberville. Can anyone substantiate that? With all the decent vacancies out there, if the the college football world doesn't see his worth, then screw em. Let Turner Gill enjoy another outstanding season in Buffalo. Maybe he'll turn em into a National Champion. Maybe eventually Cincinnati's HC, Brian Kelly, will move on, as has been rumored a time or two, and Gill can go there. I'm all for that!
Kevin @ Fanblogs
· 11 months ago
Tuberville to IA St is strictly a fan rumor and supposition. There is no confirmation of interest from either party.
Zac
· 11 months ago
Thanks, Kev!
NMLSooner
· 11 months ago
Think how important that Hail Mary touchdown against Temple was. If they don't complete that, Temple wins the division, and Turner Gill has no chance to pull off the upset of Ball State in the MAC Championship. They would have been 6-6 and most likely left out of the bowl games. Although it would have been a big improvement over Buffalo's recent history I don't think he would be getting any major programs talking to him. It's crazy how ONE play can open the doors to so much more.
Zac
· 11 months ago
NMLS, miracles are part of the game. AND, while it was only one play, schools are going to look at a perspective coach and ask the questions, Is he really a good coach with a healthy love for the game? Can he recruit well? Is he good with young men whether he recruited them or not? Does he inspire them to play above themselves? Does he inspire Miracles? Looks to me like a "yes" in all categories for Turner Gill. Just my opinion.
NMLSooner
· 11 months ago
If I sounded like I did not think Turner Gill deserves this attention and consideration, I apologize. I think he is worthyI was just pointing out how that play had a large effect. I think it's fair to say if it had not happened the way it did, you would hear some saying: "Why are we looking at a 6 & 6 coach from Buffalo?"
Zac
· 11 months ago
NMLS, it's all good here. Absolutely no apology necessary. And, believe it or not, I see your point. I even agree; following a 6-6 season, even if it included pulling off the upset over the State of Ball, chances are Mr. Gill wouldn't get the attention he's getting now. But I think he'd be getting more attention than last year, and a lot of schools with coaches on the "hot-seat" would be waiting to see how well he does next season to determine whether or not the improvement trend continued, that they may add his name to their respective hats. Given the way things are going, it looks as if we'll all be doing that anyway. And, that's OK; at least it is for Buffalo.
Heck, if the school realizes what they have, if they get behind him, and offer him the bucks to stay, who knows? Maybe they'll keep on getting better; maybe they'll offer another school for the Big East to consider for future expansion. Could happen.
NMLSooner
· 11 months ago
Zac, TG & UB would not have even had the CHANCE to pull off the upset, because Temple, of all teams would have represented the east in the MAC Championship.
Zac
· 11 months ago
I understand that as well. I'm only saying, even if they were able to, as you had already said, a 6-6 record isn't all that impresive. School's AD's might wait another year to take a look. Bad for Gill, good for Buffalo; maybe it's a destiny thing.
jake
· 11 months ago
one play essentially kept Texas out of the NC
NMLSooner
· 11 months ago
Yes, it did. One GLORIOUS play! : )
Husker_Chris
· 11 months ago
Word among the big money boosters here in Lincoln is that Pelini's hire was about a 51%-49% decision over Turner Gill with Tom Osborne last year . While Pelini was the right hire, Gill will land in the big leagues eventually.
Zac
· 11 months ago
You may be right, Chris, but I'm hoping he stays with college. He seems to have a positive influence on kids, and college is where that is sorely needed.
TigerEducated
· 11 months ago
Sir Charles may have done Turner Gill a helluva lot of damage in terms of his ability to get interviews for jobs going forward...
Barkley wanted to strike out at what he felt was an injustice done by his alma-mater. I'll drink to that, but he may have made it very, VERY difficult to get Turner Gill's foot in the door during the interview process from here on out...
NMLSooner
· 11 months ago
I don't think Barkley's mouth helps anyone, not even Barkley. Well, maybe on NBA on TNT.
WarEagleFan
· 11 months ago
Sir Charles was on a local radio show this morning talking about how he was asked to be on a commitee to replace AU BB coach and said he would only if they would hire a black coach. Then when they didn't hire someone he liked he started crying Racism. Well isn't that exacly what he was doing? My only other question of SIR Racism is where is the Proof of your acquactions?
TigerEducated
· 11 months ago
Did anyone else spend an inordinate amount of time reading this post, focused solely and completely on the last word in it?
Acquactions? Is that something a duck does underwater? Did Aquaman call his GP that after he didn't like the initial diagnosis on that nasty rash?
That word is bending my mind right now...Seriously...I'm going to think about it the rest of the day...
Ben Prather
· 11 months ago
Somebody's been voiving again...
OU_Ron
· 11 months ago
voiving is good, makes you feel and see better, you just think a little slower, is all....
TigerEducated
· 11 months ago
I missed the voiving dealio...Am I destined to be out of the loop until some kind soul like WEA e-mails me the true meaning, like the nefarious h?
OU_Ron
· 11 months ago
The term originated from one of the prominent members of Fanblogs while drowning himself in Absolut Mandarin, you probably could associate it with " Acquactions "....it would at least mean as much.........
TigerEducated
· 11 months ago
The acquaction my voiving gets is...
I know...
h...
Eye_of_the_Tiger
· 11 months ago
Well, I tried googling the word and, nothing. Must've meant accusation. Care to expound the word of the day WarEagle?
Porcine
· 11 months ago
It threw me for a loop too.
WarEagleFan
· 11 months ago
Soory havving a dab dya stratgni dirnkgni atoub 10;30 htis mnorgni!?!?!?!?!
Zac
· 11 months ago
Too funny!!!
Tommy_Trojan
· 11 months ago
I'm afraid that Turner Gill is gonna have to go and make his own mark. If he really is as good a coach as he appears to be, then Big Time schools like Nebraska and Auburn, should not be the end all of what this guy can do in the College Football arena. I know that the guy wants those football budgets. But, the administrations don't seem to want to cut the "young black head coach", the same kinda break that they would cut one who was white.
I would say that Gill has just as much in his resume as Lane Kiffen has had. Yet, Kiffen is considered the "hot commodity" rather than Gill. I honestly beleive that Gill is gonna have to take over a program, such as Washington State or Iowa State or even Syracuse, put down some roots and make that into a good football program. Joe Paterno and Bobby Bowden did exactly this when they took the Penn State and Florida State jobs. Most all of these young coaches these days want to jump right to the top of the College Football heap. It's unrealistic in alot of ways. Pellini has had good experience heading into Nebraska. Chizik, likewise, has about the same resume as Pellini had, heading into the Auburn job. Kiffen, actually has less of a resume, as he was Co-Offensive Coordinator along with both Norm Chow and Steve Sarkisian working under Pete Carroll. So, Kiffen had alot of help, in regards to making sure that his resume looked successful. Now, he's on his own.
Turner Gill has not had the opportunity to have coached with the fine staff members that some of the others have had. He likely won't get to before he lands his next head coaching position. Therefore, he will probably not be considered seriously (along with the color of his skin), and will therefore have to settle for a BCS school that is desperately trying to work it's way back into competivness. He may have to set his sights a little bit lower than what he has been going after the last few years. I think that he could land a job at the right BCS school, and that he should stay away from the mid-major programs, if he wants to ever get to the top of the College Football world.
FSU_Ben
· 11 months ago
I got speared for suggesting racism in Jim Crow Era southern decision making having such things as a half african, half white president cited to me as examples of why I should not suggest racism ever existed in college football so be careful suggesting it might exist today!
Tommy_Trojan
· 11 months ago
FSU_Ben:
No, your right, and this is a perfectly "politically correct" world where everything is "fair". The whole idea of "political correctness" is to mask all of the same bias' that have always existed. Only the simple minded would believe that everything became fair and impartial - because some court said that it should. No, bias does still exist everywhere, in every area of society. And, I'm mean all kinds of bias, even excluding the color of somebody's skin. The area of "credit" in our society - has become the "new" way of discriminating against anybody we choose to. That is why the Bank had to go out and ruin everybody's credit who bought a house that was not worth what the banks claimed that it was. They even "backed up the lie" with their own cash - in order to create whole generations of 2nd class citizens. That's another whole story. But in reality, bias' in one form or another will always exist, and it is likely that Turner Gill missed out on some opportunities because of lack of resume and bias combined. But, he was given consideration, because that there is the rules.
FSU_Ben
· 11 months ago
Yeah I am curious as to why he wasn't considered for some of these positions that were available. I say "considered" because I think he is probably better than some of the selections that were made and would have been hired if some measure of fair consideration had occured. Success in New York where it's flagship football program is ailing should have got him that job but I don't know all the ins and outs of Syracuse's descesion making. Still I find it hard to believe the MAC is a better conference than the C-USA. Marshall's steep drop off is proof of that I think. I'm saying performing well in the MAC isn't worth as much as performing well in some other conferences even without a star studded cast of assistants.
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Heck, if the school realizes what they have, if they get behind him, and offer him the bucks to stay, who knows? Maybe they'll keep on getting better; maybe they'll offer another school for the Big East to consider for future expansion. Could happen.
Barkley wanted to strike out at what he felt was an injustice done by his alma-mater. I'll drink to that, but he may have made it very, VERY difficult to get Turner Gill's foot in the door during the interview process from here on out...
My only other question of SIR Racism is where is the Proof of your acquactions?
Acquactions? Is that something a duck does underwater? Did Aquaman call his GP that after he didn't like the initial diagnosis on that nasty rash?
That word is bending my mind right now...Seriously...I'm going to think about it the rest of the day...
I know...
h...
I would say that Gill has just as much in his resume as Lane Kiffen has had. Yet, Kiffen is considered the "hot commodity" rather than Gill. I honestly beleive that Gill is gonna have to take over a program, such as Washington State or Iowa State or even Syracuse, put down some roots and make that into a good football program. Joe Paterno and Bobby Bowden did exactly this when they took the Penn State and Florida State jobs. Most all of these young coaches these days want to jump right to the top of the College Football heap. It's unrealistic in alot of ways. Pellini has had good experience heading into Nebraska. Chizik, likewise, has about the same resume as Pellini had, heading into the Auburn job. Kiffen, actually has less of a resume, as he was Co-Offensive Coordinator along with both Norm Chow and Steve Sarkisian working under Pete Carroll. So, Kiffen had alot of help, in regards to making sure that his resume looked successful. Now, he's on his own.
Turner Gill has not had the opportunity to have coached with the fine staff members that some of the others have had. He likely won't get to before he lands his next head coaching position. Therefore, he will probably not be considered seriously (along with the color of his skin), and will therefore have to settle for a BCS school that is desperately trying to work it's way back into competivness. He may have to set his sights a little bit lower than what he has been going after the last few years. I think that he could land a job at the right BCS school, and that he should stay away from the mid-major programs, if he wants to ever get to the top of the College Football world.
No, your right, and this is a perfectly "politically correct" world where everything is "fair". The whole idea of "political correctness" is to mask all of the same bias' that have always existed. Only the simple minded would believe that everything became fair and impartial - because some court said that it should. No, bias does still exist everywhere, in every area of society. And, I'm mean all kinds of bias, even excluding the color of somebody's skin. The area of "credit" in our society - has become the "new" way of discriminating against anybody we choose to. That is why the Bank had to go out and ruin everybody's credit who bought a house that was not worth what the banks claimed that it was. They even "backed up the lie" with their own cash - in order to create whole generations of 2nd class citizens. That's another whole story. But in reality, bias' in one form or another will always exist, and it is likely that Turner Gill missed out on some opportunities because of lack of resume and bias combined. But, he was given consideration, because that there is the rules.