DISQUS

The_Observer · 1 year ago

"Note to the OBC: They do shoot people down their. Watch your six. "

...shoot people down there.



You have been observed.

TampaGator · 1 year ago

Observation:

youR a loozUr. Ha Ha Ha....Did you catch that grammatiKJabul error tWo??? duz annee-won elce see how hilareeus this wur?

FYI: Grammar posts are as weak as they come. This ain't Engish class; it's a college football blog. Your spelling and grammar acumen may impress your 5th grade teacher--it just annoys the rest of us, and cheapens your handle.

Class dismissed.

YouR now free to go 'n berry you're noze up you're teechrz but.

PutTS [sic].


GO GATORS!!

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Lack of knowledge of one's own primary language impresses no one.

Also, I'd have to say that it annoys me, so you might be on your own there.

Regan · 1 year ago

Meh, agree. I like being able to just read something and not have to think about it. Simple grammar mistakes don't bother me so long as I can skim over them and they don't stand out.

Then again, I'm 29 (have been for over 2 years now), and I'm old enough to appreciate being able to just read something without other things distracting me.

Misspelled words that disrupt the smooth flow of thought between the eyes and brain are like pebbles in the shoe of a sprinter.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Why on ertah wulod you gyus eevr tinhk taht sepnlilg is ipmtornat in a cgelole ftobolal bolg aynawy?

You wree albe to raed taht lsat sntecne prefcelty fnie, crorcet? Aynnoe konw why?

The_Observer · 1 year ago

As lnog as the fsrit and lsat letrtes are crorcet, the snetcnee is pfrectelty lebigle.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Srue, but why are we sltil albe to udnresntad it? Beucase the barin dno't autclaly raed ecah ltteer idnvidiulaly, but rades ecah wrod. Tahts why ocscoaonilaly wehn you are rideang, a dfrifrnet wrod cmoes up wehn you dno't epxcet it...

The_Observer · 1 year ago

Taht is an irtnertisng fcat. Did you konw taht 111,111,111 X 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321? I frigeud I wluod cobtrinute smoe too.

Regan · 1 year ago

Another interesting fact is that if you Google "Google", the world will explode.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

I can't understand a single word you just said...

TampaGator · 1 year ago

The occassional typo/clerical error/grammatical error hardly constitues a "...Lack of knowledge of one's own primary language...'; 99%+ of the time, it means the blogger/poster just didn't proofread and/or spellcheck...

...because they're just f$#%n blogg'n (how's my grammar there?)

My, but some folks take this sh*t serious....

B/t/w: just curious, but if "...Lack of knowledge of one's own primary language impresses no one...", with whom should I be impressed by your---or observer's--or any other handle's--purported mastery of the English language?


GO GATORS!!

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Why on ertah wulod you gyus eevr tinhk taht sepnlilg is ipmtornat in a cgelole ftobolal bolg aynawy?

You wree albe to raed taht lsat sntecne prefcelty fnie, crorcet? Aynnoe konw why?

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

It doesn't matter who you're impressed with.

Saying "your a moron" implies that you are more intelligent than your target. Saying it while butchering the language packs irony. Irony is funny to me.

TampaGator · 1 year ago

"your v. you're" (like "their v. they're") is hardly "butchering" the language; it's a "typo;" and this isn't professional correspondence here; it's a blog.

Furthermore, I don't care how ironic it is, failing to include an apostrophe in phonetically identical words, when the gist is crystal clear...pointing that out as the sole or primary point of a post...just not very clever, or relevant.

I'll concede as above to Observer, it may become fair game when someone triggers intelligence as an issue....but it still comes off as lame and desperate.

It's so much more effective to show that you're intelligent enough to grasp the gist notwithstanding the form, and address the substance, than to sound like a brown-nosing weasel, and cry foul over a f$%&n typo. Hence grammar posts always reak of dodging the issues.

Again, my personal pet peeve. If you want to continue playing grammar police, you'll forgive me if I pounce on such posts like a cat on a mouse--especially after my afternoon bucket of expresso...


GO GATORS!!

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

From your post:
"it may become fair game when someone triggers intelligence as an issue"
From my post, that you replied to:
"Saying "your a moron" implies that you are more intelligent than your target."

So....what point are you trying to make exactly?

If you point out lack of intelligence without displaying much, that's irony.

Regan · 1 year ago

I agree 100%; everyone misspells sometimes. My only point was that I thimk people should try to spell correctly so others can actually read their posts, (sort of...like adults).

[And I spell 'thimk' with an 'm' on occasion, FYI; I'll tell you why sometime if I feel like it.] :)

But getting on someone's case for misspelling a lone word or phrase is fairly annoying as well...unless they accidentally posted something really Freudian...in which case it's pretty much called for. :)

Geez...yall tryin' to make me sound as shrill as Mrs. Madden in 8th Grade?

The_Observer · 1 year ago

There are two instances when grammatical errors are not permissible...

(1) In an article such as the one above. (I assume a level of professionalism when someone posts an article.

(2) In a response to another poster when a lack of intelligence is implied or clearly stated.

Those are the only two scenarios upon which I would ever hold the writer accountable on a site such as this one. Anyways, you need to relax a bit...I was just busting balls.

TampaGator · 1 year ago

"...Anyways, you need to relax a bit..."

Perhaps--I just had a bucket of expresso before I started posting this afternoon...(get's me fired up!) ...and the "grammar posts" are a pet peeve of mine (...and I just read a couple of others in another thread...).

I'll also have to agree with your second "instance": if someone opens that door (intel), you're right--grammar and/or spelling become fair game.

So I'll recant the "loozer" bit...and the teacher's butt deal too...

...as I step away from the keyboard....


GO GATORS!!

The_Observer · 1 year ago

Thanks and no hard feelings here either. I understood your annoyance with my post, so that's why I wanted to clarify/justify my statement.

I will lay off the grammar posts in the future because I am certainly no English language scholar and will surely make mistakes in the future.

Zac · 1 year ago

Yeah, wat he sed. Besidz, it's "...bust'n bawls." (Dats for doez frum Joizy, wer awl da boids go "choip.")

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

At least I can read this, much better than that nonsense WEA was typing.

Hukt awn fonix werkt fir mi.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

There's a simple solution - let's just anybody who's never made a mistake beat the hell out of anyone who does.


Oh... wait....

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

Best. Idea. Ever.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

Thank you so much for the ball busting. It was quite pleasurable. Now... excuse me while I run off to find fault.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

u r a b!g 4ff!n t00l 2 p0!nt 0ut sp411!ng m!$t@k4s 0n @ m4$$@g4 b0r4d....

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

That's funny, I don't care who you are!

The_Observer · 1 year ago

You could even be me and it's still pretty funny! I already said I would lay off the grammar posts, but I guess that isn't enough.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

It is the middle of the week and you don't deserve any of this. Don't take it personally, snowballs kinds just start rolling down hill and then before you know it its out of control.

At least they did back in Utah, not so much here in Florida.

The_Observer · 1 year ago

thx d00d! But 1 a1r3dy aP0Log1z3D 4 my p0sT.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

1 r4@11y @ppr4c!@t4d it (cough...Ahem...Clearing throat)...It really hurts my fingerse to type like that...

The_Observer · 1 year ago

Me too! It took me like 3 minutes to figure out how to type mine! I'm an idiot!

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

I tinhk taht you konw the sceert, too. Way to go, Tgeir Ecudtaed...

Regan · 1 year ago

I remember the good ol' days...back when threads like these were about bashing the Gamecocks and their coach... :)

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

When the text is indented it means he is quoting the original source article linked to in the header.

Talk to the South Carolina Newspaper, we are just your friendly neighborhood bloggers.

Good lord, please don't read any of my posts... I have a propensity to drink before posting a thread.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Oh, wait the error was in the closing remarks, my bad...

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

I think I'm going to get on here tonight while drinking...

New topic: Wednesday night drinking thread...

Or if we wait until tomorrow, we can drink and make fun of whoever's playing in the thursday night Big East game...

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Wed. night drinking thread sounds great....or Thursday night (since I don't work this Friday).

shiguy · 1 year ago

HA!! The Big East isnt' playing this thursday!!! It's USC (the one in cali) for this weeks thursday night game. Friday on the other hand............

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

Is anyone here familiar with Jim Downing? More observation needed?

shiguy · 1 year ago

WHY IS THIS GRAMMAR CHAIN STILL GOING!!!

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

Less to do with Spurrier being a "shell of the once dominant force he was" at Florida as a coach...

More to do with recruiting at the hard sell of SoCar...

TampaGator · 1 year ago

He's getting some decent talent there; I think there's something with his system that's not gelling. Part of it I think, is that he's adhering to his pro-style set, and playing very conservatively. He has become almost predictable. Where he used to be the innovator, now he's way behind the curve. He'd probably have great success now and in the past few years in the B-10 (and even that won't last now that Michigan and ILL are taking the B10 to the spread).

In order for his system to work today, he needs superior talent to his opponents--which he hasn't had since UF. I realize that's essentially what your saying, but bear with--before UF his system made Duke competitive with inferior talent; and for that matter, when he first arrived at UF, he had the Gators roaring with inferior talent. That was a different era. His system was innovative then, and designed to leverage inferior talent to yeild superior results. The game has passes his system.

Bottom line: he's got the talent at USC to compete, but not with his system. He needs to adjust his system significantly, and play to his team's strengths and opp's weaknesses. He hasn't been doing that. Rather than adjust his game plan, seems he's trying to adjust his players to conform to his system. It didn't work in the NFL, and it ain't working in the SEC.

The OBC still has the goods to be a great coach; he just needs to restructure and update his system significantly.


GO GATORS!!

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

TG:

I like your posts above. I usually just start blastin' away. I don't think that anobody has ever misunderstood my drift.
On the Spurrier matter. I have somewhat of a little different take. Back to the history of college football. And, this isn't meant to be a knock on anything. It just the way I have observed college football for over 40+ years. Back in the early 60's - every team ran the ball. That's all any teams did. Even USC (oops Southern Cal) ran the ball up until Mike Rae was recruited in around 1969. By then, other Pac 10 teams were beginning to really throw the ball. Cal with Steve Bartkowski, Stanford with Jim Plunkett, and even Oregon earlier with Dan Fouts to name a few. Meanwhile, the Bear was still running the Wishbone at Alabama, Fairbanks and Switzer were running it at Oklahoma, Devaney and Osborne were running the Power-I, and of course Woody Hayes and Bo Schembechler were just poundin' it down your ass. Let's not forget Darrell Royal's bone at Texas. All these teams were at the top of the college football world. Of the great teams - Southern Cal started to throw the ball under John McKay (coached at Oregon prior). Southern Cal started pounding Oklahoma, Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan and even Alabama on occasion. These teams had never seen passing like that. It started full tilt when Pat Haden showed up at Southern Cal and never stopped. Eventually, as linebackers got bigger and faster, the wishbone became obsolete. As those linebackers increased in size and strength - most teams were finally forced to pass the ball. The PAC 10, Mountain West and the West Coast led the way into modern day passing attacks. The SEC was one of the last conferences to grab ahold of the concept. Steve Spurrier caught everybody off guard in the SEC has he unleashed his aerial circus in the south. He had that advantage as he was the innovator in that conference. Many years have gone by, and all SEC teams now fully understand the technicalities of most all passing attacks, thus rendering Spurrier's old advantage meaningless. Nowadays, strong running attacks mixed with balanced passing shemes, are considered to be the desired offense. Ball control is still good - as it gives defenses time to rest. There are some very fast players today, and the defenses are still chasing them all around, and a premium is now set to rest those players. So, the game has changed back somewhat toward the run.
Steve Spurrier's main problem is that the guy does not know how to run the ball. He is playing in a different SEC today, a conference that is fully capable of defending the pass, and the guy just has not adjusted to it. He has not installed the running game at South Carolina. Therefore, he cannot compete. That's my take. The game has passed him over.

Zac · 1 year ago

Wait A Minute; wait a minute. What R U guys do'n tawk'n about college football. I thought this post was about grammar.

blackdawg · 1 year ago

I agree with your observation as far as the evolution of college football offenses and Spurriers' place in that cycle. I just feel that magic can't occur in a vacuum, Columbia is worse than GA was in the 90's. He has a program that can't get the players out of Florida, Georgia and South Carolina that he needs. When he was at Florida he got who he wanted, when he needed them. He loaded and then reloaded. South Carolina, under Spurrier, has shown some of that OBC magic, in three seasons they've won in Knoxville, Athens, and Clemson. They beat Florida in Columbia and came within one point of winning in Gainesville in 2006. They gave LSU a competitive game last year. He can coach them up but they just don't have enough talent and depth to sustain success. Garcia is supposed to be the talented QB, but he stays in trouble and has missed a lot of practice, therefore he is way behind schedule. I know people will disagree with me, I think he can coach, if he had the players. I think the other school, in that state, has the players but doesn't have the coach. I maybe wrong but I wonder what Spurrier could have done in the ACC with Harper/Korn, Davis, Spiller. I think the ACC championship two years running. That's my take.

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

blackdawg:

I agree with the assessment that he also does not get those Florida players that he used to get. Florida gets the pick of the litter still. Yes, if he had the players, he could probably build an offensive line and bring in some more gifted runners. I don't think that Garcia is the answer though. And, I'm not sure that what Florida is doing today is the answer either. I don't like "the spread" personally. I think that the spread is great when you have a QB like Pat White, Dennis Dixon or a Vince Young type. A guy with real wheels who can take off is what makes the spread really dangerous. All passing all the time will never win big games. I think that this is a fact. I won't swear to it - but I think that it is true. What I really mean - is that I don't think that a program can be sustained by this kind of offense. You see, South Carolina doesn't have a QB now, so they lose. Maybe when they get one - they win. When they don't have one again - they lose. I like Georgia, LSU and USC's style of offense. They can always run or pass - depending on what game time conditions are. And, they all do both effectively. They don't have to rely on a QB that can run the ball either. They can use a pocket-passer or a guy with feet. The program wins no matter what - because these teams are built around solid running games. Great offensive lines and great running backs are gonna rule the day in college football. If you can add balance by passing the ball - your practically unstopable. I am sure that Spurrier might have done better at Clemson also, as he would have had some better players, especially those running backs. But, would he have known how to use them? I still think that he is too prone to want to throw the ball - and there is just way too many great defensive backs out there today. It was not like that in his day. Nowadays, the very fastest players are all turned into defensive players in high school. Good lord, we have linebackers running 4.4's and DL's running 4.7's. There is no way to run away from these people. You have to overpower them with brute strength.

MizzouATL · 1 year ago

completely agree. He can't get the players he needs to establish any depth. South Carolina -- the state -- is too small to sustain Clemson and the 'Cocks. Clemson does a great job of recruiting metro Atlanta and Georgia. The 'Cocks have trouble recruiting against Clempson and the other SEC and ACC schools that are recruiting the Palmetto State's top high school talent. They get a few good players, but not enough.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

Steve Spurrier's main problem is that the guy does not know how to run the ball.

And yet he had numerous 1000 yard rushers when at Florida...

It boils down to recruiting...

While he can get some good [players there, he'll never get the depth...

TampaGator · 1 year ago

TT:

A fair analysis, but I think you under estimate the OBC's appreciation of the run. He's known for passing largely due to first impressions. He used the pass to open up the run (against conventional wisdom of running to set up the pass). Fact of the matter is that while he was at UF, his running plays and passing plays were always right around 50/50% split--maybe just slightly favoring the pass (sure he'd accumulate more yds passing, but who doesn't?). He'd make the passing look easy--but only after he got defenses to respect the run, and commit to it (kinda' like Tebow does now).

From what I've seen, at USC he hasn't been able to pass much at all, so he can't set up the run, then the runing game never takes hold. He then HAS TO pass on 3rd downs, and his entire offensive game plan becomes very predictable. Keep in mind, that the key to Spurrier's system is getting the defenses off balance (by passing on "running downs" so he can run on passing downs; show pass then run...show run, then pass, etc...). Hence my point is that he needs to adjust his system so that it doesn't rely on defenses being off balance, but rather targets and exploits mismatches, even when the defenses know what to expect.

The problem then, as I see it, is a reluctance to abandon a system that has served him so well in the past. That said, I can't blame USC for not wanting to wait for him to figure out that he needs to change his system (let alone how he needs to go about doing it)--not when they're paying him $2 mil+/year.


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Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

TG:

Okay! I can go with that. It's just that in the 2-3 games I've watched this year, and many others in the last few years, USC is always throwing the ball. They do try and run on occasion, but of course, they only pick up 2-3 yards on the play. I don't see a fullback that is punishing either. It just doesn't seem as if there is any emphysis on "smash-mouth" football. Man, the guy is playing in today's SEC. He's a "finesse coach". Wrong conference for that today. He got away with it at Florida because he had introduced something that nobody was very used to - and he had speed. Now, he doesn't have the speed that the southern most teams have. So, what should you do? Well, hate to say it, but it looks like Big 10 style football could be in order. He's never had a real QB. He's had a few really good WR's in Williamson and Rice - but one great WR at a time isn't gonna get it done. You need three of them at least. I say he'd be better off to pound the rock. Auburn pulls this off pretty well. They don't ever have great QB's and WR's - but their emphysis has always been on moving the chains on the ground. It keeps that defense fresh, kills clock, and keeps every game winable. I understand that it is gonna be very tough to rise to the top of the SEC. That's my only contention for baggin' Alabama at all right now. Urban Meyer jumped on board a program that was already real close. Look at the problems that Arkansas is gonna have. SOS should have understood that he was never gonna be able to do what he did at Florida at South Carolina. He should have taken some of that "old school SEC" style of football philosophy, and implemented some kinda offense, that would have allowed him to control the game. He has not been able to do that. And, Bobby Petrino may find it very tough to do at Arkansas also. Let's see. Everybody wants to do what Urban Meyer is doing at Florida. That's all the rage these days. But, what they don't seem to understand, is that the Gators have the recruiting base to bring in the kinda speed that is required to pull this off. Eventually, everybody is gonna figure out how to slow that "spread" down. That is the history of this game. If Meyer adjusts - Florida continues to win. If not - they won't.

TampaGator · 1 year ago

The achilles heel of the spread, is speed. If your defense is fast enough, you should be able to neutralize the spread pretty easily. That's why no one tries it in the NFL--because their defenses are so fast all around.

Meyer's O still has problems with SEC speed; he's been fortunate with Tebow who, just by his freakish ability, is able to overcome those "problems." We have yet to see the spread work as designed (one of the things I love about Meyer is his ability to win, perhaps even win ugly, when his system doesn't work as intended--contrast that with Spurrier's futility when his system breaks down--some (e.g. Gator hippy)--might attribute that to talent desparity; I attribute it to discipline.

NOTE re. NFL: if you saw the Miami/NE shocker this weekend, you saw Coach Sporano run the "wild hog" formation, and have great success with it. Wild Hog ain't the spread, but, if a team is running a college formation like wild hog and having success against a great defense like NE's, we can expect more such experimentation in the future--which will likely include versions of the spread. So, maybe the old way of thinking will give way to the new.....

The irony with Meyer's issues with the spread--and Spurrier's issues with his system ("fun & gun")--is that both systems are designed to leverage inferior talent to compete with and/or beat superior talent. In Meyer's case, his offense is dependent on superior talent (what would our offense look like without Tebow?); maybe in Spurrier's case, his system could be more successful, if he had superior talent--but it's definitely malfunctioning now, with fair to middl'n talent.

Hypo 1: How would Spurrier's system work with USCw's (Trojan) players in the PAC 10?

Hyop 2: Could Pete Carroll win with Spurrier's players in South Carolina, v. SEC?


GO GATORS!!

badgerballer · 1 year ago

TT,

You've got some great insights and mad knowledge on the college football front. But *man* do I wish you'd develop the habit of inserting some paragraph breaks into your posts!

You are (nearly) as long-winded as I am. Reading your posts from top to bottom would be so much easier....and probably more people would - if there were a little bit of white space.

Feel me?

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

badgerballer:

Page breaks have now been approved by upper management. Now, as soon as they all come back from whatever vacations that they are on, we can get all of the required paperwork signed - and implement that course of action. Might take several months to iron out all the details though -as I am sure that hundreds of meetings will have to take place.

badgerballer · 1 year ago

No worries, bro. I've got cha covered.

It so happens that I know a guy, that knows a guy, who's sister is married to a guy who lives next door to a lady who is the mail carrier of a dog groomer who rides in the same elevator every morning as the shoeshine guy in the main lobby of a building on the same street as a cop who's wife is actually the Executive Admin of THE MAN.

So I can pull some strings, push some buttons and get that paperwork moved along just a little bit faster than normal channels. We'll have that approval pushed through in HALF the regular time.

Trust me. I CAN do this.

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

Badgerballer:

Now, that's what we need. A "go to guy" to cover for all of the other "go to guy's" who are always gone. I'm gonna bring that up in the next meeting. I'm sure that we can push this one thru much faster - as soon as the other "go to guy's" return from wherever they went to.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

A couple players aren't going to cut it, TG...

He needs depth of quality to compete, which I don't think he will ever be able to get in SoCar...

However, if SoCar moved to the ACC or the BE the Visor would be lighting it up...

TampaGator · 1 year ago

"...A couple players aren't going to cut it..."

Not now it won't, but it did before, because his system wasn't "known"--now, it is.

What's more, those same few players could enjoy success under a different system geared to their strengths. How's Vandy able to be competitive this year--even beat USC? They haven't got better or more talent than South Carolina...but they DO have a system geared to what they do have.

Your point is well taken, but I seriously think his system is outdated, and he wouldn't even be enjoying success if Garcia was in and playing well, and Sydney Rice still there...


GO GATORS!!

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Don't forget the giant tuition increases to help pay for Spurrier ($1,500 - $2,000/semester for in state).

He's doing the same exact thing that Lou Holtz did. If you coach at South Carolina you get a membership to Augusta National and the opportunity to hand the keys to the program over to your son. SC fans didn't take to it with Skip, but they might with little Spurrier.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Yes, Joe, because state funds are used to pay for football coaches, not all that obscene jack donated to the Athletic Department. I can see a state legislature signing off on that...

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

You're talking about a state that gives scholarships to students that go to tech schools, but not to Clemson or USC.

Ask a USC student how they feel about it and the strangely increasing tuition that started the semester that the OBC got to USC. I wish you could hear what one of our interns has to say about it.

blackdawg · 1 year ago

South Carolina brings the Jr. Holtz back and he develops the "Run and Skip" that confuse defenses nationwide. He becomes the envy of all living coaches and is affectionately known by his admirers as "The Skipper." East Coast meets West Coast USC's annually and the Trojan/Chicken rivalry is borne.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

LOL. I think one day they will wish that they didn't let him get away. That day will probably be when Notre Dame hires "The Skipper" to replace King Hippo.

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

blackdawg:

I think that the Trojans would cover every time. That's funny. Certainly, I would want to double and triple bag, while we were poundin' that chicken.

Regan · 1 year ago

It isn't Spurrier's fault.

Clemson fans have giggled for decades at the effects "Chicken Curse". For further details, ask any Carolina fan about the 1984 season.

It's what makes our rivalry somewhat interesting, as it is really tough to truly hate what you deep down have such pity for. It's almost worth pulling for them on occasion, in the hopes that maybe our SoS benefitted a bit more.

The problem with that is that the second Carolina fans get a reason for optimism, they beam forth with the levels of sheer annoyance that could make even the most shrill of the SEC powers tell them to 'get a grip' - which usually follows on its own in the form of a loss to Vanderbilt (or Coppin State in basketball).

It's not their fault - it's the Curse.

TampaGator · 1 year ago

I've read about the curse, and frankly, it sounds silly.

...but it's hard to deny that SC is becoming the place where good coaches go to suck. If the OBC does step down (or get shown the door with footwear properly embedded...), it'd be interesting to see who the next legend will be to suck in Columbia.

Phil Fulmer? Charlie Wies? Wanstache? George O'Leary? Tommy Bowden? Ty Willingham? (OK, some of these already suck, but I'm just speculating on big names who are likely to be unemployed next year...).


GO GATORS!!

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Maybe the curse would actually help a coach that sucks. If that is the case they should have a number to choose from this year.

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

Some cat called "Shula" might want revenge. He'd probably "work for food" and that would help the Cocks get back some of that misplaced cash from the last fiasco. Sounds like a perfect fit.

blackdawg · 1 year ago

How bout the legend June Jones? Buy out his contract at SMU. He'll do to South Carolina what he did for the Falcons. The run and sh!!t, man those Falcon teams are legendary. You remember how he would pull a QB out of obscurity and assure that QB would remain obscure, you remember what's his name. I can't remember that QB's name, dagnabbit, but man he was below average. June could underline, italicize, below average talent and keep it there. A perfect fit for the Gamecocks. Jerry Glanville, theres another legend, ("this is the NFL, and that stands for Not For Long") it would be great to see him walking the sidelines again.

You know the Falcons may share more than just being ancient evolutionary cousins of the Gamecocks. The Falcons might just be the NFL's version of college footballs little bird. That little bird, (the Gamecock) for some reason is sure menacing to the Bulldog though.

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Jerry Glanville

Dear God, I was hoping to never hear or read that name again. He's one of the main reasons I'm no longer an NFL fan. Sorry, but I like SC and the SEC too much to wish JG on them.

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

Given the current state of conditions in Clemson, I'm not sure the Tigers should be giggling...

blackdawg · 1 year ago

"Kitty Kurse" sorry CJ, I had to say it.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

More appropriately, the "Tommy curse".

Fire Tommy Bowden!!!!

FWIW - I want Gary Patterson or Bobby Johnson

blackdawg · 1 year ago

That Horned Frog would be a good fit in Clemson, I bet. Don't tarry.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Yeah really. Minnesota tried to lure him away from $2M/year and he wouldn't go. Clemson is definitely "greener pastures" than Minnesota. However, he's only been on the east coast during a very short tenure as an assistant at Navy. We could obviously beat the money, support, talent, resources, and facilities. It's just a question of getting him to move.

blackdawg · 1 year ago

Man, do it now while you got talent, don't wait...Goff coached us out of players, Donnan brought back the players..........and Richt coached them up, 13 - 1 SEC championship with Donnan's boys. It takes longer when the cupboards bare.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

I would've loved to have done it already. It really needs to be done now. Bowden seems more like Ron Zook than he does Goff. Zook could always get the players, he just couldn't go very far with them.

blackdawg · 1 year ago

I would agree, Bowden is better than Goff. He has sustained a much more consistent program longer, for sure. Goff, though was originally a good recruiter. After consistently coming up short Goff no longer could recruit. He also had Tenn and FL in his back yard all the time. Don't you think Bowden has benefitted some from Florida State and others falling off a bit?

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Allegedly Bowden benefits most from his Christian ideals. Quite a few of our recruits cite that as being the reason that they signed.

TB certainly benefits from his ties to Florida and Alabama, but he has done a good job keeping players in South Carolina. A few still get out, like Prince Miller and AJ Green to Georgia, but most are staying now. I really don't know how much TB really has to do with the recruiting though. We've got a couple of young assistants, Dabo Swinney, David Blackwell, and Billy Napier, that are actually the guys who get credited with bringing them in. If there was a way to keep that trio, and dump TB, I'd love it.

Regan · 1 year ago

You up to paying off a huge sum to Michigan to get RichRod? Rumor had it a year or so ago that he'd love to come back to Clemson.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Yeah, I met his wife when I was there (nice lady). She loved living in Clemson. Irrelevant, but I thought I'd throw that in there. Then, it came out about 2 years ago that she'd love to live in Clemson again. I think that ship has sailed though.

How do you feel about Bobby Johnson or Gary Patterson?

Regan · 1 year ago

You know me, Joe; I like Tommy Bowden, at least until Clemson's season is over.

Rio_Jay · 1 year ago

i'll predict the following:

if south carolina fires spurrier, he'll be the coach in tucson, arizona before the offseason is a month old.

Regan · 1 year ago

How's the golf out there? The Augusta Golf thing was actually in Spurrier's contract at USC if memory serves.

Rio_Jay · 1 year ago

you kidding? golf in southern arizona is outstanding. that was part of why i predicted UA

The_Central_Scrutinizer · 1 year ago

...the Ol' Ball Coach is only a shell of the once dominant force he was while at the helm at his alma mater, Florida. His highly touted recruiting classes have proven to be very weak and ineffective...

B ut d00d! His golf game frikken ROX!

"BC" · 1 year ago

ahh.
whats wrong with gamecock fans?
theyve always sucked.

in order for that team to ever win the SEC, theyd have to lure Pete Carrol to Columbia.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

I think South Carolina would be better served to hire an up and coming young coach who will actually stay with the school and grow the program by developing relationships with the high school coaches and creating stability. Stability is something that USC hasn't had in a very long time. USC has been hiring these older coaches who used to be successful. To me, it's like a gimmick. It creates buzz at first, but ultimately there is no stability.

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

Poke all the fun you want guys. You have compounded your own ignorance. Kevin did not check his source. You did not bother to check the source Kevin attributed. UWIRE is a site for aspiring student journalists, not a South Carolina newspaper. When the "ole ball coach" is done building his team, he will come around periodically, and run up the score on your team.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

That article was published in The Daily Gamecock....

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

Bleed Crimson is a real "soothsayer" isn't he? LOL LOL

SCarDawg · 1 year ago

Read This: Carolina sucks, and Spurrier will leave. The only ignorance is this: "If Gamecock fans knew anything about football, they would not be Gamecock Fans!"

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

I read it SC's doggy. Did more research, my apologies to Kevin. "Thrice-weekly student newspaper of the University of South Carolina in Columbia. [Free registration required." I did notice the author is a "first year journalism student". I'm fixing to harness my prognosticating pony to that 19 year "fair weather fan". One more thing SC's doggy, Ya'll squeaked by us, good luck with that game plan the rest of the year.