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Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

vtmechE — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:21:20 -0000

the acc has already learned from it, with charlotte hosting in 2010, they missed out on fsu losing a game for a good turnout last year, should fsu vs. miami happen in charlotte, the national appeal of both programs makes it seem likely the charlotte venue would attract a good turnout for the acc's dream cg matchup

the acc learned that a geographic conference center makes the the cg successful, hence atlanta being so successful for the sec, the c-usa uses the highest seeded team as the host b/c it doesn't have a geographic center, with marshall, ecu, and utep on the far reaches of the geographic circle, it's difficult for c-usa to be profitable at a neutral venue

with that in mind, should the mwc go to 12 with a cg, denver and salt lake would be prime candidates for hosting, air force, colorado st, utah, byu, new mexico and wyoming are within a day's drive of denver

vice versa for salt lake city, with unlv being 6 hrs from salt lake city by car

candidates, boise st, and nevada are within a days drive of salt lake city, while fresno st, and for arguments sake, new mexico st, are out of the loop geographically

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

Zac — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:18:16 -0000

I agree; a 12 team conference format is arguably the best set-up. If a conference championship is staged properly, theoretically, it should make money. Why the ACC has been pushing their championship in FL is beyond me. As you stated, it should have been held in Charlotte, NC from the on-set. Having seen the results twice now, do you thing they'll learn from it?

While we're at it, should the MWC expand to 12 teams, where should they hold their play-off, Denver, Lincoln, KC, other?

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

vtmechE — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:26:15 -0000

i was stating why i preferred a 12 team conference, the championship game was certainly made for money, but location has killed the acc cg, jacksonville and tampa are not acc country, the goal was to have miami play fsu every year, but that didn't happen, charlotte should have hosted from the beginning, and it woulda sold out each year, whether fsu or miami were there or not

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

Zac — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:09:11 -0000

One of the reasons the ACC picked up BC, Miami, & VA Tech was to bring the originally 9 team conference to 12 teams, such that the ACC could have a money making conference championship. When was the last time the conference championship was sold out and really made money? It didn't happen the last 2 years.

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

Zac — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:52:51 -0000

Given what the B(C)S hasn't accomplished, I don't see any other purpose.

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

vtmechE — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:06:20 -0000

personally, i love the 12 team conference, and not b/c we don't have to play fsu every year, the conference championship, when done correctly, will bring in money, the conference as a whole increases revenue and bowl bids, which increases revenue as well, money aside, the competitive edge is still there, a 4 year player will see all 11 opponents, either with the divisional rival and 2 team rotation, or the 3 team rotation, the divisional rival also keeps traditional rivalries, such as 'bama vs. tenn, va tech vs. bc, and fsu vs. miami,

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

Tom22 — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:23:02 -0000

As to the Pac Ten expansion, in my opinion its not about the worthiness of the new schools but its more about the number of teams you want in a conference. Adding two more teams would mean eliminating more non conference games in football and basketball and other sports. I don't think expanding the number of games works. its nice to have some non-conference games.

I think that its vital that all the teams in a conference play the same opponents. I don't like the 12 team conferences split into two mini conferences. nearly as much..

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

Tom22 — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:55:11 -0000

The BCS system did give Utah a top rated team to play in the bowls. More automatic berths wouldn't help the situation

If there is a weakness in the BCS it's letting lower ranked conference champions into the picture but thankfully they matched Viginia Tech and Cincinatti allowing Texas and Utah better games.

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

Zac — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:37:25 -0000

You win; I voted for duh puppy.

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

Bevo_Boiler — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:18:14 -0000

I thought it was ok if the title of the thread had a typo?

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

Zac — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:26:38 -0000

First off, the bowl tie-in's should be scrapped. Teams should get into the BCS bowls based upon merit; i.e. they finished the regular season ranked in the Top-10. Each year, one of the BCS bowls gets the NC. The others that didn't select from the rest of the Top-10. I realize that means theoretically as many as 4 teams from the same conference could wind up in BCS bowls. So what? Why punish a conference or any of its teams for having a good year?

As for the MWC: In a previous thread, a couple of us (one of them, me) recommended the MWC pick up 3 more teams to round out a 12-team conference. Boise St is a must. Houston & Tulsa would not be bad picks either; academically they're strong & provide a natural regional rival for TCU. With the likes of AFA, Boise St, BYU, CO St, Houston, TCU, Tulsa, & Utah how could anyone argue against this being a strong conference? I'm not saying strongest; mind you, only strong. Besides, whether or not the MWC agreed to anything, doesn't mean its commissioners & presidents can't renegotiate.

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

Zac — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:30:03 -0000

So, tell me, was the guy staring at the road & scratching his head saying, "Great Googly Moogly!"?

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

Zac — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:15:22 -0000

BC is in the ACC because the ACC wanted in on that big Boston TV market. The "standards & tradition" things are merely ancillary benefits. Realistically & geographically, had BC remained in the Big East, it would have made much more sense. But, it what it is.

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

NMLSooner — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:14:43 -0000

Like I said, the Cotton would be fine. The five former SWC teams (Oklahoma was once part of it) give it some historical connection. Geographically, it's the best fit for the Big XII. I think it would make it more like the Sugar is for the SEC, the Rose is for the Pac-10, and the Orange Bowl is for the Florida schools, which is to say a home field feel. But man, I sure do miss the Orange Bowl waiting out their as a prize.

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

NMLSooner — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:14:56 -0000

Soooo you don't like uniform threads, but have no problems with a link to vote for a dog picture...Okay.

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

Cougar_Fan — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:51:05 -0000

Yep, I'm feeling pretty good about our chances to make another statement in 2009. The MWC should finish ahead of the Big East again, and should get another team in the BCS, I'm predicting that team to be TCU. They've got a good schedule and shouldn't run into any trouble until they play BYU and Utah, plus they get a lot of good players back along with a solid recruiting class. Utah could make a huge statement early against Oregon, and BYU, well they have a killer schedule, I'm hoping for the best but Oklahoma and Florida State are both going to be major hurdles (if they can win one of those they'll be in good shape).

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

4cornerz — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:09:07 -0000

Thank you Ben.

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

FanoftheGame — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:05:18 -0000

Tomcat- I admit, the Aggies have been difficult to watch lately. I grew up around College Station and really fell in love with the atmosphere there. Of course, as fate would have it, I married a Longhorn. We manage to take in several games every year, but lately we seem to be going to more UT games than Aggie games. It's hard to complain about that, since UT has been playing at a much higher level lately and I love to watch great teams compete. I had bragging rights for the past 2 years before losing them this season so I guess it hasn't all been bad. With a new coach, new system and Fran's recruits guess its supposed to take a little time before the Ags get back to winning (or at least competing). Even so, at least R.C. had a history of good defensive teams and I do miss those days.

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

aVoiceInSC — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:11:15 -0000

"the pac10 won't expand due to their "academic" standards..."

Then what is Oregon State doing in the Pac 10?

By the way, Brigham Young and Utah both outrank Oregon State in the current rankings.

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

Regan — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:34:06 -0000

Yeah, there was a game called 'Zero Wing' in 1989 for Sega I think. The game was rushed and the Korean programmers skimped on the translation, going directly from Korean to English without proper syntax, etc.

That is honestly the dialogue from the game. As far as the video and images, that's someone else's genius. :)

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

1Tomcat — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:44:23 -0000

Thanks FOG I always enjoy your input
BTW I attended two A&M games this year- I cant help but say
Bring back RC

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

1Tomcat — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:36:46 -0000

Thanks Kev- instead of I need to get out more.
BTW off the subject completely Fanblogs has been somewhat educational for yours truley
guess I ought to take some courses and create my own B/S videos
Now back to CFB
Hookem-Horns
Sicem-Bears- beat the H outa OU

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

1Tomcat — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:11:33 -0000

The Cotton for Decades was SWC champ vs At Large
The Cotton should be a BCS Bowl and MWC conference ought to carry as much weight as the BE- both conferences need to pick up additional teams and become 12 team conferences- this has been discussed at length here many times.
The C-USA has several teams that used to belong to the old SWC and some teams like E Car kinda stand out apart from the rest same can be said of Troy in the Sunbelt- Boise st kinda dominates the WAC like USC does the Pac-10.
The MWC has more of a legit chance than others even though the C-USA & MAC already have 12+ teams, but unfortunately the directional schools from the MAC lose the recuiting battle with the B10/11 schools just like the C-USA does against the B-12 and SEC.
interesting topic and beats the heck outa uniform discussions
Hookem-Horns

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

Kevin @ Fanblogs — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:02:43 -0000

Tomcat - you gotta catch up to the 90s, bro.

Re: Mountain West to makes its case for BCS status

1Tomcat — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:00:33 -0000

Regan-Thanks Man
I don't really know what I saw, but I enjoyed it all the same.
Is this your creation?
All you Base Are belong to us- Aleins grammer-?