Fanblogs.com: Nebraska covering up NCAA infraction?
fosterkeats
· 7 months ago
Why even worry a second about this...
Nebraska is in that little fraternity with Ohio St & Southern Cal who are impervious to NCAA infractions.
Did Ohio St ever get in any trouble for Maurice Clarrett???
Has Southern Cal gotten in trouble for Reggie Bush, OJ Mayo, Jarrett or Leinart???
In the meantime, Ralph Friedgen & Rick Majerus gets slapped the wrist for buying kids a turkey sandwich at the airport...
gobler
· 7 months ago
Nebraska is no longer in that fraternity.....that would be like saying Army and Navy were in that fraternity. It has been awhile...in college football years...since Nebraska has really been relevant.
Still do not think much will come of it..not a major violation....unless it uncovers other things..which I doubt.
TigerEducated
· 7 months ago
It's a somewhat typical issue...
We had three or four kids get caught doing that in the leadup to the BCS Championship Game back in late 2003, and we had to suspend them all.
I believe the suspension is and will be an adequate response in the NCAA's eyes.
Pelini IS a tough, hard-nosed disciplinarian, though.
nowayone
· 7 months ago
Cody Glenn lied, which only makes one wonder what he did that was so terrible he'd rather make up a phony story about scalping tickets. One too many hits on the head apparently.
Kevin @ Fanblogs
· 7 months ago
Please explain the motivation for Glenn to lie to NFL teams? Do you not believe that NFL teams vet these issues? I believe Glenn is likely telling the truth (there's no reason for him not to do so) and that the Skins probably confirmed the story with NU.
TigerEducated
· 7 months ago
Apparently, one too many hits on the bong...
righton711
· 7 months ago
So Glenn lied? Or is the Nebraska admin lying? I vote the latter.
bevo
· 7 months ago
Another NCAA infraction committed by a BCS school? Hell, Abilene Christian will get another year of probation.
Zac
· 7 months ago
"I got caught up selling some tickets that I wasn't supposed to be doing,"
NO! You didn't get "...caught up..." in anything; rather, you got CAUGHT! As if to say, he would have changed his ways, if given the chance...
I just don't get it. Free room, free board, free education, not to mention a shot at what he just got (the chance to display his tallents making more in a single signing bonus than I'll make in 10 years), and what's he caught up in - selling friggen illegal tickets.
D-BAG!!! Had the NCAA come down on Nebraska, it would have served you right if a bunch of "Big Red" boosters suied your soon-to-be NFL a$$ for all the trouble you caused them. As for now, Coach Pelini did the right thing. No harm, no foul; let it go.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 7 months ago
That's something I actually would like to see in litigation trends--college teams suing newly NFL enriched former players for damages if they got caught breaking the rules after the fact.
Hear me out. Say the RBI (Reggie Bush Incident) eventually lands USC on probation (yea, I know--fat chance) I'd say it would be perfectly legit for the men of Troy to file suit against Bush for damages. Litigate On!!!
TigerEducated
· 7 months ago
Associate AD's at USC and folks IN THEIR COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT knew of Lloyd Lake, and the other runners, and were providing them tickets and access to the sidelines and practice out in LA.
USC's AD was complicit and exhibited a lack of Institutional Control.
The Yahoo! Sportswriters have broken it down...FOI Act records have shown Lake & others calling AD officials, Assistant Coaches, everyone...
They're just as liable as anything Bush did, because they knew, provided the access, and turned a blind eye...
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 7 months ago
I guess my statement above would leave one to believe that I believed that USC was innocent in the RBI. I regret that it seemed that way. It will not happen again.
TigerEducated
· 7 months ago
That 23-nil score from 2002 hurts, still, huh?
I still wish we could've gotten a shot at them in 2004 in the Sugar Bowl...Or if they would've actually played for a shot at a national title in 2007...Punking them out on that stage would've been quite sweet...
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 7 months ago
I'm sure we would have had our revenge in 2004 had we gotten our shot.
TampaGator
· 7 months ago
WEA:
Good thought. Colleges should have a cause of action against former players for causing them to be sanctioned by the NCAA, and franklly, probably already do (that is, I'm not aware of any express prohibition against it). I think the reason no one has pursued one before, is because of a little thing called discovery. Pick that fight, any you expose virtually every aspect of your program not protected by privilige, to public scrutiny. All your dirty laundry is at stake (subject to subpoena).
Probably no program to date has sustained NCAA sanctions that wasn't at least partially culpable, and they've probably all run the cost/benefit analysis of going after a former student star, and concluded the NCAA resolution is far more expedient and will cause less loss than whatever gain could be realized by going after one of their own.
For e.g.--say you're USC--you go after Reggie; Reggie's team of lawyers serves subpoenas on your AD, assistant AD's, Hd Coach, assistant coaches, bank records, tax returns, booster lists, their bank statments...all of a sudden, you've got all this dirty laundry out there for the world to see; you've got crap coming out that you never wanted in the public domain.
Now, let's play it out further: best case scenario, you win a judgment for say $10 mil (again, dream scenario; doubful you'd see such a verdict). What did it cost you?
1. Your cred with future recruits (who wants to play for someone that went after their own?
2. You're dirty laundry exposed;
3. Any leniency with the NCAA, since by having your dirty laundry out there, they HAVE to come down as harsh as possible;
Keep in mind, that's the best case scenario.
Lose the case, and you still suffer all of the above, except that you don't even get the a judgment.
I think this also sheds some light on the NCAA's discretion in picking its fights (when they go after a program, they pretty much have 'em dead to rights). The NCAA knows that if it were hailed into federal court by an innocent victem (a program that was completely clean, that it shut down for instance), it could be emasculated.
So they go after the guilty, then sit back and watch, and wait, as the target program weighs its options....and then (inevitably), swiflty goes into damage control--i.e.--plays ball with the NCAA.
Clean. No problems.
The game continues...
GO GATORS!!
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 7 months ago
Good points, all. I didn't think through the argument that far. You better be cleaner than the state board of health if you want to throw someone in that briar patch.
Yea, selctive enforcement by the NCAA? Nah....
TRIPPA06
· 7 months ago
Any way this can erase that L for my Tigers? :-)
Regan
· 7 months ago
I agree with WEA...especially when damages could be proved and Bush made off like a bandit.
Personally, I want to encourage every team to cheat as flagrantly as possible until the Bushgate (or RBI) is settled. :)
gatorhippy
· 7 months ago
So is this the beginning of the "apopcolyptic" preference of universities to NOT self report due to harsh sanctions as predicted by TK and the Nole appeal?
hogg2
· 4 months ago
So what. Any way you cut it, there is a kid who was making some bad choices and a university that responded appropriately.... Sort of like when Rhett Bomar was supposed to be "selling" cars.
nustudent
· 4 months ago
I'm pretty sure he molested a girl, none of this selling tickets junk.
All Comments
Nebraska is in that little fraternity with Ohio St & Southern Cal who are impervious to NCAA infractions.
Did Ohio St ever get in any trouble for Maurice Clarrett???
Has Southern Cal gotten in trouble for Reggie Bush, OJ Mayo, Jarrett or Leinart???
In the meantime, Ralph Friedgen & Rick Majerus gets slapped the wrist for buying kids a turkey sandwich at the airport...
Still do not think much will come of it..not a major violation....unless it uncovers other things..which I doubt.
We had three or four kids get caught doing that in the leadup to the BCS Championship Game back in late 2003, and we had to suspend them all.
I believe the suspension is and will be an adequate response in the NCAA's eyes.
Pelini IS a tough, hard-nosed disciplinarian, though.
NO! You didn't get "...caught up..." in anything; rather, you got CAUGHT! As if to say, he would have changed his ways, if given the chance...
I just don't get it. Free room, free board, free education, not to mention a shot at what he just got (the chance to display his tallents making more in a single signing bonus than I'll make in 10 years), and what's he caught up in - selling friggen illegal tickets.
D-BAG!!! Had the NCAA come down on Nebraska, it would have served you right if a bunch of "Big Red" boosters suied your soon-to-be NFL a$$ for all the trouble you caused them. As for now, Coach Pelini did the right thing. No harm, no foul; let it go.
Hear me out. Say the RBI (Reggie Bush Incident) eventually lands USC on probation (yea, I know--fat chance) I'd say it would be perfectly legit for the men of Troy to file suit against Bush for damages. Litigate On!!!
USC's AD was complicit and exhibited a lack of Institutional Control.
The Yahoo! Sportswriters have broken it down...FOI Act records have shown Lake & others calling AD officials, Assistant Coaches, everyone...
They're just as liable as anything Bush did, because they knew, provided the access, and turned a blind eye...
I still wish we could've gotten a shot at them in 2004 in the Sugar Bowl...Or if they would've actually played for a shot at a national title in 2007...Punking them out on that stage would've been quite sweet...
Good thought. Colleges should have a cause of action against former players for causing them to be sanctioned by the NCAA, and franklly, probably already do (that is, I'm not aware of any express prohibition against it). I think the reason no one has pursued one before, is because of a little thing called discovery. Pick that fight, any you expose virtually every aspect of your program not protected by privilige, to public scrutiny. All your dirty laundry is at stake (subject to subpoena).
Probably no program to date has sustained NCAA sanctions that wasn't at least partially culpable, and they've probably all run the cost/benefit analysis of going after a former student star, and concluded the NCAA resolution is far more expedient and will cause less loss than whatever gain could be realized by going after one of their own.
For e.g.--say you're USC--you go after Reggie; Reggie's team of lawyers serves subpoenas on your AD, assistant AD's, Hd Coach, assistant coaches, bank records, tax returns, booster lists, their bank statments...all of a sudden, you've got all this dirty laundry out there for the world to see; you've got crap coming out that you never wanted in the public domain.
Now, let's play it out further: best case scenario, you win a judgment for say $10 mil (again, dream scenario; doubful you'd see such a verdict). What did it cost you?
1. Your cred with future recruits (who wants to play for someone that went after their own?
2. You're dirty laundry exposed;
3. Any leniency with the NCAA, since by having your dirty laundry out there, they HAVE to come down as harsh as possible;
Keep in mind, that's the best case scenario.
Lose the case, and you still suffer all of the above, except that you don't even get the a judgment.
I think this also sheds some light on the NCAA's discretion in picking its fights (when they go after a program, they pretty much have 'em dead to rights). The NCAA knows that if it were hailed into federal court by an innocent victem (a program that was completely clean, that it shut down for instance), it could be emasculated.
So they go after the guilty, then sit back and watch, and wait, as the target program weighs its options....and then (inevitably), swiflty goes into damage control--i.e.--plays ball with the NCAA.
Clean. No problems.
The game continues...
GO GATORS!!
Yea, selctive enforcement by the NCAA? Nah....
Personally, I want to encourage every team to cheat as flagrantly as possible until the Bushgate (or RBI) is settled. :)