DISQUS

bevo · 1 year ago

Why not cut about 75% of the bowl games on the grounds that no one cares?

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

h

Zac · 1 year ago

I'll see your "h", and raise you 2-O. Ok, I'll stop.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Proper h ettiquette is to get in line--underneath me! Quit cutting...

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

h

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

hello

Regan · 1 year ago

I care. Stop looking at me like that....

1Tomcat · 1 year ago

I care two and I would think that the 4-7 Baylor Bears have a better chance of winning a Bowl than the Irish- That reminds me- guys dont we have a ND vs BU game coming up?
Catholics Vs Baptist at Papa-Johns,Miller Lite, Ford Truck,Pepsi Cola,Acme Brick Jerry Jones Stadium ?

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

I care too; and please stop staring at me like that.

cheeze_grits · 1 year ago

who gives a rat's ass where notre dame goes?

fosterkeats · 1 year ago

Hey man, no way!!! I'm gonna be first in line to grab those Papajohns.com Bowl tix so I can watch East Carolina and Troy do battle... on a brisk mid-December day in Birmingham...

Maybe they'll even serve Papa John's pizza there this year...

Porcine · 1 year ago

It's important to me.

IFFF · 1 year ago

huge notre dame fan and man i hope your right! we will probably end the year 7-5 with a win vs Syracuse and a loss to usc. i've never heard of a 7-5 team going to a pretty high ranked bowl like that so im not 100% sure but you do make great points in your blog. if they dont end up going, they'll probably be in the El Paso Bowl or some early December, nobody bowl. I am very disappointed with Charlie Weis, he hasnt beaten a team with a winning record since last years UCLA team! my final statement is that ND will win big over the U and lose big to FSU. i never thought i would say this but, COME ON CANES!

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Congratulations, we've been waiting on you. You are hereby promoted to chief ND fan on fanblogs. It comes with the brevet rank of lieutenant colonel in the Irish Army. Please see the quartermaster for your avatar and profile and begin spear-catching immediately...

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Speaking of Irish...Am I the only Irishman alive in America who hates Notre Dame?

Speaking of Irish (2)...I had a nice little glass of Bailey's Irish Cream (w/Mint) with a splash of a local Dairy's Egg Nogg last night at a friend's house after work...Damn I love my ethnicity...

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

I want to have some Bailey's with HER...

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

You know they only gave my wife 50 bucks for doing that commercial? Something about her not having any lines to recite....IDK.


Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

GT0107:

That's odd. She didn't tell me she was married. And, just in case she's holdin' back on you, I had to pay her a whole lot more than $50. Maybe, you better have one of them little "heart to heart's" with her.

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

We both wish there was even a shread of truth to that...lol.


Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

No, you're not the only one. There's at least two of us


Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

Porcine · 1 year ago

3.

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

Porcine, your keyboard will set a record for longevity when it's all said and done......lol.


Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

Porcine · 1 year ago

Affirmative.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Porky is our resident man of few words. He gets more accomplished with one or two keystrokes than most posters do with a whole diatribe...

Don't confuse him with Gatorhippy, who has the shortest paragraphs of any poster...

Or Tomcat, who has NO paragraphs at all...

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

War_Eagle_Atlanta is our resident social butterfly. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Porcine · 1 year ago

That's why I hated English/Composition classes.

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

Ditto

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

4.

Zac · 1 year ago

Should I duck? Well, may the 4's be with you too...

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

I'm the 4th Irishman (part Irish) alive in America who hates Notre Dame; this was a response to TE's comment, and Porcine's "3." comment. (Porcine is the 3rd.)

Good puns, though. :-)

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

I'm not Irish, but I drink a lot. Judge's ruling?

See above where I actively recruited that Irish fan below. We just can't keep any ND lovers on here lately. What gives?

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

Not Irish... drink a lot. Ruling ---> Southern! (See... I get all three... Irish, drinks, and Southern.)

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

There is a fourth. Catholic. I get 3 out of your 4, but I'm a proud Northerner, since we won and all. ;-)

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

"We just can't keep any ND lovers on here lately. What gives?"

They haven't had much to cheer about lately. Can what happened to Notre Dame happen to Michigan?

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

I don't cheer for Notre Dame, but I think they're good for college football. Go figure that Irish logic.

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

Ditto...although they're rapidly becoming extinct. I think they really screwed up by not joining the Big 10(11).

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

I don't like them either; and I'm Irish, T.E. Damn .... no wander we had such a rough start. Later ........

FSU_fan · 1 year ago

I love your faith in FSU but I don't necessarily share it. The Canes you want so badly are shaping up into a very decent team, probably a lot better than the Canes team FSU beat earlier in the year.

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Assuming that Kevin's forecast is correct...

Merry effing Festivus, Notre Dame. Once again, you have been treated better than you deserve.

Between FSU and Miami, the Gator Bowl should invite FSU if they want a sellout. FSU has a larger and more mobile fanbase than Miami.

1Tomcat · 1 year ago

Ya RG I think they have 1 win over a team with a winning record this season.
I'd like to see them play a C-USA opponent like Houston or Rice. Or maybe Troy from Sun Belt
Too bad its gonna be a ACC team
If they face anybody from the top 25 it will be an embarassment
How many years of ND is rebuilding ?
triva question- how many years since the Irish won a Bowl?

USC1801 · 1 year ago

I believe NDame has lost the last 9 bowl games but the trivia question of when they last won a bowl game alludes me.

What a catch, Gator Bowl reps!! A team that has lost the last nine times and would lose again. Now that's what is called real smart marketing. Short-term gains at best.

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

Agreed totally!

shiguy · 1 year ago

the 94' Cotton Bowl

1Tomcat · 1 year ago

Thanks 15 yrs Wow thats a long time !

TampaGator · 1 year ago

"...FSU has a larger and more mobile fanbase than Miami...."

True, but....Notre Dame v. Miami--how could you turn that down? Notre Dame will fill the stadium, so you needn't worry about attendance.....and the combo would light up the ratings
nicely...

On that note: "...Once again, you [ND] have been treated better than you deserve..."

Nonsense. If the Gator Bowl with Notre Dame fails to sell out...if the GB/ND fails to move product--you'd be right. Until that happens, you can't say that, without betraying complete ignorance about the relationship between "deserve" and "bowls".

Does a 1 loss team that fails to make a bowl profitable "deserve" to be in a bowl?

...hell no...not if it's on your nickel. Too many of those, and whatever bowl it is, would no longer be.


GO GATORS!!

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

I'll go along with your assertion about ND/Miami, TG, but I have to disagree on your definition of "deserve" with respect to bowl invitations. By your definition, deserving the invitation is more about selling the game out than record on the field. If that's the case, ND should just go to the BCSCG every year. In fact, there's no need at all to invite an opponent to play them since ND can sell out the game by themselves. In fact, let's just sell the tickets to ND fans and crown them national champs every year! Why bother playing the games?

You can call me naive - and maybe I am - but ND has not yet demonstrated that they deserve this bowl invitation, The timing of this news alone suggests how desperate the Gator Bowl is to put butts in seats and they are showing little or no concern for the quality of play on the field.

TampaGator · 1 year ago

RG.

One huge problem with my Miami scenario: they're going to be the ACC champs--especially after they stomp GT this weekend--so they won't be playing in the GB...

Hell, it's a Notre Dame thread--great place to pick a fight, right!

j/k...Good points, Maybe I came on a little strong on the money side--that was to make a point. For most bowls, there has to be a balance between product on the field, and ability to move product. Frankly, the lesser the bowl, the more weight goes to the latter, and vice/versa: the higher/more prestigious the bowl, the more weight on the former. Hence it stands to reason that the Gator Bowl being a lesser bowl, would focus on profitability.


GO GATORS!!

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

...especially after they [Miami] stomp GT this weekend...

Dude, remind me not to bet on your picks.

TampaGator · 1 year ago

"...I like mine with lettuce and tomato...Heinz 57 and french fried potato...big kosher pickle and cold draft beer...well good God almighty which way do I steer, for my...

....CRAP-burger in paradise...."

Didn't see that one coming...


GO GATORS!!

Porcine · 1 year ago

Parrothead.

FSU_fan · 1 year ago

Notre Dame probably would be a sellout by itself. If you want a better mix of fans pick FSU but the tickets will sell.

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

I'm sure Notre Dame's opponent will be overwhelmed with their "Win the Gator Bowl without Effort" card. Merry Christmas, Notre Dame opponent!

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

It may be viewed as a gift for Notre Dame -- a better payout than a 7-5 team deserves -- but it might be **more** of a gift for FSU... who is likely to finish the season as the ACC's #5 and yet capture the ACC #3 slot. Ho! Ho! Ho!

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

I'll enjoy watching FSU, or any other team for that matter, beat Notre Dame to a pulp. It'll be a Christmas gift for me, too! Ho! HO! HO!

I'll be more excited to watch that game than Ralphie was when he got "Ole Blue" for Christmas!

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

The slots are always the selection of the bowl, unless you are wanting to take a 6-6 team over a 7 win team.

Except for some bowls and conference champions, bowls are not locked into actual conference standings.

Unless the Big East has another bowl that picks first after the BCS I think your projection is dead on.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

I'm telling ya... it's a stone cold lock. :-)

Zac · 1 year ago

Shoot! (That's "$hit" with 2-"O's".) If ND finishes w/7 wins, I'd be surprised if a BCS bowl didn't take em.

USC1801 · 1 year ago

I don't have the time nor the gumption to watch Charlie-Weis-his-name get beat again. No, I take that back. It's always fun to watch NDame get beat.

Kill_The_BCS · 1 year ago

Hasn't Notre Dame already lost to 1/2 of the ACC teams this year already?

Wardboy3 · 1 year ago

Just two...North Carolina & Boston College

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

Seems like it; and they almost got beaten by Navy this past weekend after being ahead 27-7 with just a couple of minutes left in the game. Navy recovered 2 on-sides kicks; and they almost pulled it out. I surely wish they would have won, for sure (For Navy to beat Notre Dame, that is). Final score was 27-21!!!

GA_Boy · 1 year ago

Could we not have gone at least 5 posts before the Notre Dame bashing began? I am sure you have run off the only ND fan on here for a while.

GO DAWGS!

GA_Boy · 1 year ago

Now that I have my obligatory common courtesy posts out of the way--Notre Dame stinks.

USC1801 · 1 year ago

(Uh Oh! I didn't follow protocol!! I neglected to include the obligatory NDame courtesy message.)

We are soooooooooooo sorry, Mr/Ms NDame fan. Perhaps posting your fight song will encourage you to come back and visit us:

"Cheer, cheer for old Notre Dame,
Wake up the deadbeats cheering her name,
Send a hollow cheer, "let's fight"
Shake down the Gator Bowl tonight!
What though the odds be none at all
Old Notre Dame has a lot of gall,
While her loyal sons are marching
Anywhere but victory."

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

Have you recorded this on youtube, yet? Cmon, USC1801, get on it, brother.

USC1801 · 1 year ago

LOL! Nah, I don't want to flaunt it, you know. . . it's a gift. ;) Besides, modesty runs in our family - usually the other way.

For those serious fans who want to hum along with the words above:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9xsdQh757g

lnr · 1 year ago

Remember the good old days, just the Rose, Cotton, Orange and Sugar Bowls. Bowls don't mean anything now, half of the teams in the country make them now with a barely winning record.

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

Yeah, I remember them; and for the most part, they have gotten pretty with the exception of the Sugar Bowl, and sometimes the Orange Bowl. But, these 4 bowls used to be THE BOWL GAMES ....... for sure, for sure.

shiguy · 1 year ago

Awesome so the Big East is going to get shafted again out of the second largest bowl game they have. And i know that the Sun bowl is against a Pac 10 team but seriously if you honestly try to tell me that the Sun bowl has all the luster of the Gator bowl i will laugh at you. There isn't even a pull for the fans. You could be going to Jacksonville one of the nicest places to go to, or you could essentially go to a stadium that is as far in the a*scrack of america as possible with mexico 1000 feet away. Ya not so much. And this isn't against going out west. I used to live out there and was one of the people excited when WVU went to the Fiesta bowl just because I knew Phoenix would be fun. But El Paso?

This stings even more by the fact that the B12 took the bowl game last year, now ND, next year the B12 will probably take again. It's bullshit that ND is considered part of the BE for these bowl game when they don't even play the teams in the conference. With a few exceptions. I give them credit for Pitt but why do they refuse to play WVU?

God I hope Syracuse pulls off the upset of their year. Go Fighting Orangemen! (screw political correctness! damn girls getting their panties in a bunch! for those who don't know that's what their name was before the mighty PC bandwagon stepped in.)

Zac · 1 year ago

"God I hope Syracuse pulls off the upset..."

Done, my friend, not that it'll make a darn bit-o-difference.

Chris · 1 year ago

If the Big East is getting shafted, they only have themselves to blame for allowing Notre Dame to be linked with their football selections even though the Irish refuse to join the BE for football.

As for Miami or Florida State being the opponent for Notre Dame, how wise is that? Just read this morning that this past weekends nationally televised game on ABC between FSU and Boston College drew a whopping 4.5M viewers. That down almost 5.5M for the 10M average ABC had been getting for Saturday night football. FSU played a "home" game at the Gator Bowl against Colorado earlier this year and if you think the stadium has been empty for the ACC championship game, there was almost 40,000 more empty seats in Jacksonville to watch the Noles play in September than the "Cocktail Party" between Georgia and Florida.

And do we really think Miami is going to bring butts and eyeballs to the seats and screen for a 7-5 unranked Notre Dame contest?

Actually, and this is blasphemous as a UVA season ticket holder to say, but the Gator Bowl would do much better with Virginia Tech and Notre Dame which would probably sellout and draw a higher TV rating. But the Peach has first dips on the first non BCS ACC team and they will likely scoop up the Hokies.

TampaGator · 1 year ago

I thought FSU-CU sold out. Wow. I'd have to see some confirmation on that attendance to accept it.

As for Miami....I disagree...that would be a ratings bonanza.


GO GATORS!!

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

I called BS on that statement at first, too, but I just looked up the box score: attendance--46,716. Wow!

TampaGator · 1 year ago

Doh!

Thanks for the confirmation....think I'll promplty circulate this among some feller Gators to bait some 'noles with... I guess I shouldn't be too surprised though; a client recently offered me several GOOD FSU tix for a home game--pkg included; free of charge. I couldn't move them. 10+ calls to FSU "fans", and nothing... Didn't ask for a cent; FREE! Gratis! No charge! Nothing...and when I finally did get a taker--he called back to decline. Said he has a softball game that night, or something...the tix just sat there in a drawer...

I thought it was just a fluke...

...hmmmmmm....


GO GATORS!!

Wardboy3 · 1 year ago

I was at the FSU Col game & even though it was only 47k there it was approx 40k FSU. So we had 40k show up for a game against Colorado. Now how many would show up for a game vs ND? And how many ND fans would show? I am sure you could easily get enough to sell out.

shiguy · 1 year ago

Actually no the BE didn't let ND in on their contracts, the bowl committees did. ND said "hey we're not in a conference we want some guaranteed bowls too!" and the bowl committees undid their respective belts and bent over.

TampaGator · 1 year ago

The fly by ND fan above had it all wrong; ND wouldn't stand a chance against Miami. FSU has a propensity for self-destructing; they're simply not a lock on anything anymore. Not saying they'd lose, just saying you can't make any judgments by looking at the rosters and/or the records.

Miami on the other hand, has become much more consistent. What's more, Notre Dame's offense performs decently against pasny d's--not against good d's; Miami's D would shut their O down completely....and on the other side of the ball: a HS offense could score at will againd ND's defense. Robert Marve may not be Graham Harrel, but he's good enough to light that D up.

GO GATORS!!

FSU_fan · 1 year ago

Now this I can agree with. We seem to only stand up for big games against big competetion. Can't get these kids up for BC & Wake. This is coaching issues and motivation issues judging from the fact we blow those teams away in sheer talent. I guess we can just keep being mediocre until that is all we can recruit.

4cornerz · 1 year ago

It's all about the money. Shame on the Big East for allowing this to happen. I would choose ND with a 6-5 or 7-5 or 6-6 record over a Uconn or CU or WVA or Pitt

FSU_fan · 1 year ago

WVU is the most desireable property in the big east with Pitt and Syracuse having potential with a package of good years. USF still has a way to come although I would rather watch them play than any other big east team. The entire lot of them though are second tier and third tier teams (with only those 4 and rutgers having any real potential fanbase building). Cincinatti is garbage, who would ever want to see this crapfest team in a top or mid tier bowl is beyond me but the potential is there... Uconn... never gonna be a top tier team. Ever. Louisville to me will always be C-USA garbage who made thier name beating FSU and aside from an ever so thrilling orange bowl game against Wake is a big failure.

I have hard feelings about the big east though and most of it stems from being 8 teams that range from so-so to so trashy that get an automatic BCS bid. If they had 12 teams and a championship game I'm sure I would have a different outlook. Memphis sure looks like a good fit if you dump seton hall, marquette, notre dame, georgetown, villanova etc. or perhaps encourage basketball only schools to transition to FBS such as Villanova and Georgetown (Georgetown has a long football history that includes trips to the Sun bowl and Orange bowl, yeah they suck now at FCS but look at duke, stanford, wake, rice etc.). Aside from that expanding with whoever looks best out of the MAC which seems to change often or picking up teams that offer new television markets (Central Michigan is all I can think of that could maybe compete enough and is sort of close). The two basketball schools I mentioned both are market expansions as well Maryland and PA. Conference could lobby to the respective state to help pay for facilities, is that unheard of? I know they are private schools. Ah well I am seriously digressing.

4cornerz · 1 year ago

I some what agree with you,since gas prices are going down, screw geographics, if I was the new commish I would go after UCF, SMU, TCU and Houston.

FSU_fan · 1 year ago

Ok for some reason I thought PA was a market expansion. Must be because pitt is so entirely unmemorable for the last decade or so.

shiguy · 1 year ago

Or they could tell Joe Pa to stop being such a whiny b*tch and join the conference which actually houses 3 of Penn St.'s most historical rivalries (Pitt, WVU, Syracuse). Instead of playing in a conference that for the most part considers themselves the big 10 plus that other team way out east. Sadly though, this isn't the year to petition to them and it's unlikely they would ever do such a thing. but I have even talked to Alumni from Penn St. who have even commented that joining the big ten may have been nice publicity but they hate that they really have no rivals anymore Michigan St. is as much a rival to them as Baylor is to Colorado. They're in the same conference, and that's about it.

FSU_fan · 1 year ago

Actually that is an excellent idea that the big east has considered. Penn State snubbed them though. I would think they would jump at the opprotunity to compete every year for a BCS bowl although they have done well as of late.

Robert of Augusta · 1 year ago

After today's Notre Dame Debacle. HERE COME THE HUSKERS!! WITH ALL OUR FANS (Including Me). All us Southeast Area Husker fans haven't had much chance to see our team. (Next year at Va Tech). We Love what we are seeing with Pelini. & will Pack the GATOR BOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

clay · 1 year ago

notre dame would be lucky to play in the toilet bowl. did you see them lose again on saturday to syracuse. what a disgrace. can weiss throw anyone else under the bus? two weeks ago it was offensive cooridnator, this week the whole team

GForce · 1 year ago

A lock huh? I guess you'll be eating crow. I guess we can just throw out everything you just wrote. Notre Dame couldn't beat a good high school team.

matt · 1 year ago

good idea, but won't happen for a couple of reasons: 1) SYRACUSE 24 - Notre Dame 23. 2) it is likely USC will whip ND's ASS in so-cal, which makes ND 6-6. Bowl Eligible yes, but would ND even accept a bowl bid at 6-6? unlikely. assuming one is even offered. see ya charlie - it is time to go....

NURed · 1 year ago

Gator Bowl? Gator Bowl? Who said anything about the Irish going to the Gator Bowl?

Too bad there is not a Lemon Bowl. Or, Irish Fans, it's too bad there is not a lemon law where you can turn back in a coaching hire that has gone bust!

It will be Nebraska vs Florida State in the Gator Bowl. Go Big Red.

Ranier · 1 year ago

Gator Bowl? Gator Bowl? Who said anything about the Irish going the Gator Bowl?

What ND really needs is the Lemon Bowl. Or, Irish Fans, perhaps a lemon law with the option for turning back in a coach who has proven to be a BUST.

Nebraska vs Florida State in the Gator Bowl on Jan 1st. Go Big Red.

Gator Bowl?! · 1 year ago

There has been a class action laws suit filed against Notre Dame by the student body claiming they where led to believe ND was a football school.

Todd · 1 year ago

Wow ND is really really bad. I feel sorry for all of the catholics out there that will have to root on a true football school like BC in the bowl season. ND has the atheletes, must be the coaching. Poor Charlie. Just like the majority of the pro assistance that try the college game......Just doesnt work. Bill Callahan NU for example. The Gator Bowl is out..It will go to the Cornhuskers. The Sun Bowl is out. Notre dame will get a bowl bid somewhere with its 6 wins but they should decline. They are not worthy. MAN THEY ARE BAD WOW