DISQUS

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

That is funny, I think Mack should save this video and show it to his team at the end of every season just so they can have something to smile at while the Sooners are playing in the CCG......it would cost less than a fly over...

Ramblin' Gator · 10 months ago

You kids pay attention. This is the right way to talk smack.

Zac · 10 months ago

So, Ron, you're proud to be a Sooner. No doubt, TC is doubly proud he's a Longhorn. As for me, while I have great respect for the accomplishments of both programs, I'm just as glad I'm a Mountaineer. I can't even imagine what happens between Longhorns & Sooners when the Sooners win. God help McCoy & Company, should they make the NC game next year, say against USC, and lose. The Sooners will definitely have your back...sides that is. Enjoy!!!

By the way, Kevin was right; the acting, script, and cinematography SUCKED!!! If that's as good as TX can give out over an OK loss, I'd rather be a Baylor Bear. (I can't just commit to being a Sooner, after all; I don't know that they'd do any better. I wonder if the cry-baby was the one who may have said, "If it weren't for my horse…")

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

Zac Imagine yourself in front of the TV about to watch the MNC game. The team in the MNC game lost to your Mountaineers by ten points and the WV Mounaineers only lost one game on the road by 1 second, yet you get to watch a team that you already beat play in the MNC game-A team that you cant stand and could never root for- the hatred is generations deep and it is a sick & twisted rivalry. I received a phone call prior to the OU vs Fla game and they said it helps us if OU wins? do what? no way- Unlike loyal SEC fans or perhaps BE fans- we aint like that- we like to see OU get beat= dosnt matter if its Boise St or Oregon its fun to watch and the best part of the game was the conclusion when they showed the Longhorns bitter nemesus ex coach initials B S he wasnt grinning anymore-priceless
Hookem-Horns
BTW cant wait till next year
after they lose to BYU,Miami & Baylor They get a chance to get beat again by The Texas Longhorns who unlike the Sooners are undefeated in BCS bowls

OU_Fan · 10 months ago

Get over it. If Texas Tech took care of business in Lubbock, they would have played for all the marbles. But, they didn't.

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

Tech did take care of business in Lubbock. That's the problem. :-)

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

What happened the last time OU played in Lubbock? thats right OU got beat
What happened last time OU played in Dallas? OU got beat
What happened last time OU played in Boulder Colo? OU got beat
What happened last time OU played in a bowl game? OU got beat
Hookem-Horns the real#1 B-12 team 45-35
Texas 5 consecutive Bowl wins
Texas 8 consecutive 10+ win seasons

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

What happened the last time OU played in Lubbock? thats right OU got beat
What happened last time OU played in Dallas? OU got beat
What happened last time OU played in Boulder Colo? OU got beat
What happened last time OU played in a bowl game? OU got beat

Even losing in Lubbock,Dallas and Boulder couldn't keep us from playing in and winning the CCG ;-) just a thought !!

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

Your right Ron
Yall should cherish that Trophy
Longhorns got a Golded Hat and a Feista Bowl trophy
really great year for both teams
Ya yall beat Missu- so did we plus OU & OSU
RRS game- ought to be another great one between two great teams on a national scale

Zac · 10 months ago

I'll do you won better. Imagine being at home in front of your own fans ready to play a bitter nemesis in one of the most heated rivalries in college football. OK, maybe not a big as OU/TX, MI/OSU, or even UCLA/USC, but it's up there; your boyz are favored by 28, AND with the win you go to the NC - Only you blow it. One of the best kickers in all of college football misses 2 FG's; 2 QB's (under pressure) drop the ball (twice) before contact is even made, but at least your defense holds your rival to only 13 pts and little over 200 yards of offense, but you still lose. As if that's not bad enough, your head coach, presumably a lifer with your school, takes off for presumably bigger and better things.

I can't argue that what happened to TX was unfair. You can't really argue that were the table reversed it wouldn't have been unfair to OK, and everybody keeps conveniently forgetting about TX Tech, who beat TX and had the same record as TX & OK. Now here's the most damnable thing: I don't have an answer for ya. I can commiserate, but I don't have enough imagination to sugest a solution. Sorry TC.

Chokelahoma · 9 months ago

I happen to live in Oklahoma and felt sorry for many of my friends after the NC game. It's sad to see the all the hopes and dreams of so many Sooner fans get smashed due to poor coaching and even crappier preperation.
And I'm sure many Sooner fans felt like crawling in a big hole after watching their rivals (Longhorns) win the Fiesta Bowl (which is the same bowl they lost two straight years, once to the Boise State and then WV).

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 9 months ago

Glad to see you're so sympathetic to your friends with your choice of monikers there...

And of course, there's no chance that Florida was a better team. OU just had poor coaching and preparation...

OU_Ron · 9 months ago

Gee thats original, havent heard that before......but the way you put it, I'm sure Ill remember..

HamnEggs28 · 10 months ago

Very creative. The one problem is that the coed that is doing all the crying should be wearing the UT sweatshirt, because that's all the Cryhorns do.

Porcine · 10 months ago

Yeah and some blame us for bring their sos down.

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

What team do you like? Oklahoma? T-Tech? It doesn't really matter, I guarantee if your favorite team was in the same situation you wouldn't be proclaiming how the BCS is the perfect way to decide the NC, especially when one of the teams it would put in the NCG your team beat by 10 earlier in the year (and I already know what's coming from having said this. yes, i do remember that Tech beat Texas and head-to-head only works with two teams, but you have no idea how ridiculous that sounds when your team is getting screwed by this logic)

Note: I tried to watch the video, but my internet's too slow, so I can't give any input as to the video itself.

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

Well not not missing anything- any dimwit with a video camera can post just about anything- really stupid-sh-t.

HamnEggs28 · 10 months ago

I am an OU fan.

I am curious as how would you decide a 3 way tie?

Ben Prather · 10 months ago

Make them all play each other again, and repeat as neccisary.

Actually something more like this:

1) head to head (failed Big 12 2008)
2) division record (again no help)
3) Combined record of cross division foes ( Usually works well but this year failed )

MOV in games played between the three teams is not politically correct but is the best here, favoring Oklahoma

4) Drop the team lowest in the BCS standings (This would eliminate Texas Tech and Texas wins head to head)

The difference in BCS score of 0.0128 between them before the championship game comes to a 54.5% consensus (using a secret formula) that Oklahoma was the better team. This is less than the 56.4% consensus that the difference of 0.0181 between Florida and Texas was correct.

For the record, Using the AP votes in place of the Harris Poll Florida the difference in a final BCS poll between Florida and Utah would have been 0.0471, indicating a 66.1% consensus that Florida deserves the national championship.

The AP poll and blog poll show the human consensus is closer to 75%, which is reasonble because 4 of the 6 official BCS computers used selected Utah as the final #1, allowing Utah to carry a hypothetical final computer vote 0.98 to 0.97. The coaches poll, on the other hand, showed an unrealistic consensus that Florida was #1.

Why am I reminded of the color Green? Is your name by chance Sam?

PS: The secret formula:

normalcdf( -infinity, 25 * (BCS difference) / ( (Standard Deviation of the polls) * sqrt(2) ) )

The Standard Devation of the polls in the top 5 are around 2.0, though it increased the further down the standings one goes.

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

I'd rather tackle a chinese cross word puzzle !!

HamnEggs28 · 10 months ago

Wow, I can't say I totally understand the secret formula. My concern about using it, is that very few fans would understand it, leading to even more chaos if it were relied upon to break the tie.

The 4) that you refer to is similar to the SEC/ACC version of their 3 way tiebreaker, which I hope the Big 12 does not adopt. Under the SEC version, a team within 5 rankings of the higher ranked team could conceivably win the tie breaker and go on to their Conference Championship. Can you imagine the moaning and groaning if, for example, a #7 team was chosen over a #2 team to go to the Big 12 Championship. The SEC/ACC would be better served if they adopt the Big 12 solution, rather than vice versa.

Ben Prather · 10 months ago

The comparison is just the results of the BCS.

The point of the secret formula is point out how close the opinion on these discisions really was. A 54% or 56%consensus is far from conclusive. 66% is much closer.

We really should have a system that generates results with a 70%+ consensus.

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

Whats really funny about the B-12
Missu-got whuped by Texas- first half was 35-0
Missu got beat by OK st- Texas beat OK St
Missu got beat by KU- Texas beat KU
Texas beat OU
so an OU vs Missu game was really between the two best teams in the conference?-no- the two best teams had already played Texas vs OU.-
the CCG game featured two teams that Texas had already beaten during the regular season- So in order for Texas to ever advance, not only do they have to have a perfect undefeated season, but they have to beat the north Champion twice- not the case if your OU-Keep the first string in run up numbers to impress voters, face your toughest opponent at home and beat the north champ only once- advance as the Mythical Conf Champ

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

Thatshould read face your toughtest opponent that you beat at home. They lost to their toughest opponent in Dallas at a neutral site (at least, toughest in the regular season)

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Yeah, and we have that mythical trophy to prove it...

HamnEggs28 · 10 months ago

I thought this conversation was about How to Improve the BCS, but like so many other UT fans you have reverted to tear drops.

To respond to some of your crying, as long as Texas plays such a weak non-conference schedule, you will have to have a perfect undefeated season. Strength of Schedule was the only reason that OU eked out TX for the Big 12 Championship. Don't blame OU, blame your Mack Brown.

Secondly, beating the north Champion twice is not a great accomplishment. As you may remember, OU did it last year.

Texas is a great program, they just are not as good as OU.

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

Must be green Eggs & Ham
Your smoking some purty good stuff
Texas beat OU
Texas has beat OU 3 outa the last 4
How is Texas not as good as OU
Texas strength of schedule was vastly greater than OU's- TCU so what Texas beat them last year
Texas played Arkansas from the mighty SEC beat them 52-10
Texas played undefeated top ten teams 4 weeks in a row- dropped one close one on the road. by six points with one second on the clock
beat both OU and OSU top ten teams
Oklahoma lost two games both by ten points each
to Texas and Florida top ten teams
Texas has won 5 consecutive Bowl games- 3 of which were BCS games
Oklahoma hasnt won a BCS game since 2000 ?
Texas has 832 all time wins #2 NCAA
Texas leads Oklahoma in all time series play
Texas is the winningest team in the B-12 conference
reread your silly bias post and roll another one
Hookem-Horns

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Come on TC, anyone can play the number game...Texas beat OU 3 out of last 4......Ok, OU beat Texas 6 out of last 9

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

Ya your right Ron, guess the last four, because the Seniors woulda been Freshman

HamnEggs28 · 10 months ago

The only impressive thing that UT did in '08 was to UPSET the Sooners. Otherwise...
1) you played a nothing non-conference schedule (you are simply showing your ignorance when you claim "Texas sos was vastly greater than OU's").
2) you barely beat OK State IN Austin
3) you got beat by Tech in Lubbock
4) you lost the tiebreaker and for the 3d straight year watched OU play in the Big 12 Championship Game.
5) you eked out a win in your bowl against a team you were suppose to dominate.
6) Texas ranks 7th in the ESPN Prestige rankings which covers the last 72 years. Did you notice, OU is ranked #1.

Texas has a very good program. They should, they sit in the middle of a great deal of HS talent, but no matter how many tears you cry they continue to be #2 behind OU in the Big 12.

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

First of all, I wouldn't call Texas over OU this year an upset. Your Heisman trophy winner threw 5 tds, but your defense had no way to stop Colt McCoy. Otherwise...
1. Ark. being weak hurt our sos, but, even if you don't believe OU_Ron has said it, the sos was close between the two teams.
2.OK St. had a good football that was hungry for an upset over then #1 Texas. Don't forget the 2 weeks before this Texas played #1 OU and #11 Mizzou so they couldn't focus on that game at all until the week of the game.
3. We lost on a last second prayer. Texas did not play well for 3 quarters and still should have won that game.
4. We lost the tiebreaker based on the BCS poll, not really anything could've been done to avoid that after the loss to Tech
5. At least we won our bowl. Not to mention how much that game meant to OSU
6. Does that even matter? Does the school get anything for ESPN saying that they're the best team since the 1930's? No, they can just say that ESPN thinks they're #1

Here's something a little more relevent: 832. That's how many wins Texas has, and it's 44 more than OU has

HamnEggs28 · 10 months ago

OU was ranked higher than TX; OU was favored to win. They did not win. That is the definition of an UPSET. Is it always this hard for you?

You can rationalize everything you want, but go to bed tonight knowing that OU is a better football team than Texas.

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

So do you consider OU beating T Tech an upset? I consider an upset to be when one team is clearly at a disadvantage but finds a way to win, whereas Texas vs. OU was a game between two evenly matched teams. Yes OU was ranked higher, but they were both in the top 5.

OU is a better team than Texas? Texas won 45-35 (who knows, maybe you even saw one or two of those signs lol). Texas also has a better recruiting class coming in (supposedly, have to wait until national signing day, and hope no one's a bust) and, in my opinion, the beset DC in the nation to help the defense continue to get better.

HamnEggs28 · 10 months ago

Tech was ranked higher than OU, but was not favored in the game. That is the difference. Had Tech with their higher ranking also been favored, I would absolutely consider it an upset.

Tx generally does have a better recruiting class than OU and they should given they sit in the middle of all that TX HS talent. But its Stoops who does a great job of recruiting very good talent from TX and then gets the most out of that talent to consistently be the best in the Big 12. Stoops is a better judge of talent, a better recruiter and a better coach than Brown.

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

If Stoops is a better judge of talent, a better recuiter, and a better coach than Brown, how does he not get the better recruiting class? Not to mention, some mom's complain because there are parties in Austin, because, apparently, there aren't any in Norman.

HamnEggs28 · 10 months ago

I am surprised you even ask that question because it is so obvious. The reason Brown gets the better class is that HS kids have a decided inclination to go to a school close to home and they generally want to play for a school in their own state. There is all kinds of family and peer pressure to do so. Stoops has to be a much better recruiter to get those kids to go to OU. I assure you that Brown would not get near the recruits from TX if he were at OU (heaven forbid).

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

So you're saying that most college players, who are counting on becoming NFL stars for their careers, choose their schools based almost solely on location, rather than where they think they will succeed? Location does make a difference, but many players (e.g. Terrelle Pryor) choose the place they want, not just listening to their parents (his dad wanted him to go to Penn St, and Darryl Clark went to Penn St. partially because Pryor didn't). And I mean, Stoops apparently has to be a better coach, he was the last of the two to win a national title... no, wait, that was Mack Brown.

HamnEggs28 · 10 months ago

No, Mack Brown did not win that crystal, Vince Young did.

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

Vince Young would not have won that NC if he had been playing for any other coach because no other coach would have changed that much to help one player, which ended up helping the entire team.

HamnEggs28 · 10 months ago

I will give you that one. Brown does deserve some credit for recognizing, after 2 years, that his coaching of Young was doing more harm than good, and he decided not to coach Young. That was probably Brown's best decision as a coach...not to coach.

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

H&E I aint never cryed I'm proud of the team I support The #1 Team in the Big-12 The Texas Longhorns- Who are the Best and #1
#1 the OU OCC games included Tenn Chatt DivII and Wash 0-12 team you SOS sucked
Texas defeated 10-3 Rice Owls bowl winners
Texas defeated FAU 07 Sunbelt Champs and bowl winners
Texas beat SEC powerhouse Arkansas Razorbacks who beat LSU Nat Champs back to back 52-10
#2 Texas beat OK State in Austin
#3 Texas lost To TTech in Lubbock not as bad as OU lost to Texas
#4 OU's Stoops runs up the score on teams when the game is under control-gaining much needed support and media points- leapfrogs a superior opponent once again showing they dont deserve all the undue bias media -if they were any account shoulda whuped Texas & Florida-didnt happen-exposed- overhyped-Yes
#5 Unlike OU- Texas wins their Bowls against a top ten team- unlike OU and the choklahoma sooners getting beat by whoever comes along Boise,West Vig,Fla whatever win a bowl-geez then talk sh-t
#7 once again ESPN loves OU nothing new see MNC 08- losers
see I go to bed knowing that Texas is better than OU and done proved it on the feild 45-35
no arguement
Hookem_Horns

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

Tomcat, I like it; I just have one little problem: after 5 comes 6, not 7 lol

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

TC was a little frustrated when he wrote that post, after 15 post's trying to convince people that Texas is better than OU and failing to do so.....now he's mad at ESPN because they proved him wrong...ataboy TC, never give up.....;-)

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

ESPN doesn't help prove anything because those rankings don't matter for anything.

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Now if ESPN would have ranked Texas # 1, it would be a different story.....don't you go and get frustrated on us too...

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

I'm frustrated with HamnEggs, not you. He's trying to say that Mack Brown is not a good coach, just got lucky to land at Texas even though he can't recruit and just gets players because he's in the state of Texas. By that logic, shouldn't every D1 team in the state of Texas be in the top 25 all the time?

NMLSooner · 10 months ago

Texas Tech

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

Well, as is the case here, if one team is no longer nationally relevent (meaning T Tech), they should be dropped out of the discussion other than for their win that created the chaos, as they were. The top two should have played in the Big XII championship, especially considering how much stronger the South was than the North. That would've given both teams another 60 minutes to play for their shot at the title, rather than letting one team look on as the other plays. I would have had no problem with OU going over Texas if they could have played for it, but leaving that decision up entirely to the pollsters and 6 computers isn't right.

Would you have had a problem with it being settled on the field?

HamnEggs28 · 10 months ago

To answer your last question first, I would have loved to settle it on the field. Of course, my opinion is that OU would beat TX, but that is another discussion.

A couple thoughts on your comments. First, you are changing the rules as you go along. Next year there will be different circumstances. Will you continue to want to change the rules if they are not working in your favor? Secondly, I find it very interesting that Texas fans seem to forget that it was OU that enabled UT to be a tri-champion of the Big 12 South. Had OU not beat TT both of us would have been sitting at home watching the Big 12 Championship. Would you have been complaining about the rules in that case? You must come to grips with the fact that UT simply did not get the job done, when they had every opportunity to do so.

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

OU had the opportunity and didnt get the job done, once again big game Bob blew it embarrassing the B-12- Since your of the opinion that OU is the better team, then it wasnt Texas SOS that cased OU to jump Texas- but pollsters like yourself that are blind to the fact that Texas is the better team and done proved it on a national scale in The Cotton Bowl-Dallas Texas this season 45-35- na forget that- just run up the score and the media hype that surrounds the OU program.
Choklahoma did it again- look they are purty good afterall they are #2 in the B-12 south behind Texas who wins their Bowl games.
Led by a coach of character who pulls out the starters when the game is at hand
Hookem-Horns-I aint crying I'm happy OU got beat again

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

I thought you didn't care about the conference, only what Texas does.....you're getting your stories mixed up TC...come on

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

Na Ron just making noise- its off-season
Ole H&E is a hard headed OU fan just like rest of Yall
BTW this whole thread is really kinda silly and that video is dumb, because showing Switzer not grinning woulda been better IMHO

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

I am for whatever helps settle it on the field (of course, anything could have exceptions, but I'm for what I think would have the fewest incidents where teams feel that they get screwed, other from the game/refs), even if it hurts my teams chances. There is nothing I hate more (well, ok, there are quite a few things, but most have nothing to do with this conversation) than the fact that we almost never get a national that is clearly the national champion in everyone's mind. Yes, I believe that I would have still held that opinion if the roles were switched, but I can't honestly say I've been in that situation before. Finally, yes I know that Texas did not get it done on the field, but you should also consider that OU did not get the job done either, and got into the CCG by the luck of the draw; well, and style points...

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

BB it was the SOS, and was very close at that...

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

Your right Ron
Aint UT 's fault that TCU had a good season or the Cin did good in the B-E
Arkansas was supposed to be a marque game with a great SEC team. UT's defense throttled them.
Now we can all look forward to 09
Go BYU,

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

I don't think SOS was enough by itself, but it's not as big a deal now. There's nothing wrong with a 12-1 season with a BCS win

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

BB, it was the SOS and only the SOS, that's why Mack started politicking, he knew what was about to happen....

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

and another thing, it could happen this year as well....

NMLSooner · 10 months ago

YOU have a problem with settling it on the field. Texas Tech! Over and over. They beat you on the FIELD! They finished with the same record in division, conference and overall in the regular season as Texas. Why does the field in Lubbock not count as on the field. If OU had beat Texas, Texas had won at Tech, and OU lost to Tech would you be screaming "on the field"? What is it with you guys who can't understand the simple mathematics of a three-way tie? "Since it was a three-way tie we'll just eliminate the team that just happen to have beat us" Well, isn't that convenient that the team that BEAT YOU ON THE FIELD is eliminated. Why? Because you want them to be.

Zac · 10 months ago

11-1 Sooners got to go, but lost; 11-1 TX beat the Sooners, but didn't get to go; 11-1 TX Tech (beat TX, lost to OK) winds up losing to an 8-4 team (That's not a jab at Ole Miss, Reb's fans; just bear with me.). Three 11-1 teams in a circle jerk and nobody in the conference considered a play-off. You guys had your chance, but you're moan'n because OK went to the dance, when you felt your team should have been there. Welp, given how well TX did against OSU, and given how well TX Tech did against Ole Miss (Here it comes, Reb's fans.) TX Tech probably had the best shot, given they were beaten (not quite as close) by the same team that beat OK in the NC. Just a thought.

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

Zac Your post dosnt make any sense Texas Tech lost to Ole Miss not the same team that beat OU- FL. Most Longhorn fan's ,alumi, players and coachs don't moan, gripe or complain they are happy that OU got beat. Its what they deserved after leap frogging an obviously better team Texas. When it comes to running up style points and media favoritism Oklahoma does a better job, however when it comes to beating your arch rival and winning bowl games Texas does a better job.
Hookem-Horns

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

They don't moan, gripe or complain ????.......tell that to the 90,000 fans at the CCG watching that plane pull that big Texas kite behind it.......it's all good TC, your my favorite Texas fan..and there's not too many of em ;-)

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

"it's all good TC, your my favorite Texas fan"

How am i supposed to take that? lol jk, but I thought that the fly-by was at T. Boone Pickens, not the CCG, or were there two?

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

It was at both BB, those Texas fans have plenty of money...

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

I didn't hear about the second one; really a waste of time and money once OU was in the CCG. The only way to have gotten in would have been an OU loss.

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Or sway the pollsters to vote Texas...

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Oh I forgot BB, you're a pretty nice guy, even if you do root for the wrong team.....;-)

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

I get that a lot... lol

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

Thanks Ron I'm glad we all get along so well
BTW I was at the UT vs A&M game and there were alot of 45-35 signs- really purty cool- team spirit is real strong and those students did a great job supporting their team. Too bad Ole Mack Daddy pulled out Colt & company with 10 minutes left-guess in retrospect shoulda scored more that 49 points to impress voters-LOL
Hookem

Zac · 10 months ago

"Zac Your post dosnt make any sense..."

It wasn't supposed to, mission accomplished.

Actually, I just re-read it. I screwed up the last line. It was supposed to read as follows:

TX Tech probably had the best shot, given they were beaten (not quite as close) by the same team *which beat the team* that beat OK in the NC. Just a thought.

The part that's missing allows it to make more sense. Hey, that's why I won't be winn'n no Pulitzer.

Gatorader · 10 months ago

I don't get what all of the griping was about. The conference has a system to pick a winner in case of a tie. OU met those qualifications, and was the team that got to go get beaten by UF. I think that if there is a problem with how they choose a winner in the case of a three way clusterf-ck, then they should just change the rules to make it more fair.

I think that the longhorns should just be grateful that they played Ohio State instead of Ole' Miss!

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

I disagree- Ole Miss,Bama,Florida,Ohio St,Oklahoma,USC.Utah,Penn St-Bring them on
dosnt matter because the Horns take care of business
The Texas Longhorns
Not taking nothing away from Gators-congrats yall beat OU by the same margin as the Horns
Yall just be happy yall didnt play the Horns-cause yall woulda got Beat

NMLSooner · 10 months ago

Here's how you settle it. Have a 16-team playoff. All three one-loss team would have been invited.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 10 months ago

This really elevates the art of smack talk by a degree previously unseen in CFB...

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

WEA Its purty good right now and No Mans land has the perfect solution, if the tables were turned I'm sure that Stoops would do his fair share of politicking.
One thing we know for sure is that The Texas vs Oklahoma rivalry has got to be the greatest and has passed the OSU vs Mich on a national scale

Bama_Babe · 10 months ago

Reading all these posts makes me even more anxious for the 2009 season...
I've had about enough of the Texas/Oklahoma...woulda/shoulda....my team beat your team who beat that team who lost to this team who ended up losing to that team...etc...

Bring on 2009 so we can stop arguing about UT-OU........and start arguing about two different teams..

;)

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

How about Bama--Utah ;-)

Bama_Babe · 10 months ago

Oh Ron Ron Ron....

That was cold.

But I was just saying that the arguing about UT-OU was getting old, but then I thought about it and realized it would never stop...no matter who the two teams are - there's always going to be some kind of debate!

Gotta love the game... ;)

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

Bama Babe Its a lifelong thing that goes on forever-it probably shoulda ended when Texas beat OU but it didnt and wont-they cant help it if they are inferior to Texas in every respect-Look Texas dominates Oklahoma in everything including football. We cant help it if we are the best.
I can understand how it can get old for you being a Bama fan-I really wanted to see a Texas vs Bama MNC game, hopefully we can meet up in the future. I dont think ole Paul Bryant ever beat Texas maybe once at A&M, but never at Bama.
Cant wait to watch OU lose games and see Texas win games
good luck to the Tide
early prediction Texas vs Ole Miss MNC game 09-remember you heard it here
Hookem-Horns

Bama_Babe · 10 months ago

The arguing is not what is getting old. I love me some good arguments.

I was making a joke about how the "45-35, Texas beat OU and got screwed out of the MNC" needed to stop by saying bring on 2009....but then I was saying how it will just be more controversy in 2009, just with different teams. It was a joke about how it never ends....apparently not a very good one. ;) Oh well....

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

BB, these aren't arguments, these are discussions...if it was an argument, it would go on and on around the clock for day's.......TC has never seen a team that Texas can't beat in the past,present,or future....he just can't get over the fact that OU dominates the Big 12....btw, arguments should start around mid August ;-)

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

Can I argue that point, or do I have to wait? lol

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

OU Ron & BB
Ok Texas vs opponents in the B-12
South
UT vs OU 58-40-5
UT vs OK st 21-2 -0
UT vs T A&M 74-36-5
UT vs T Tech 43-15-0
UT vs BU 73-22-4
North
UT vs IA St 7-0-0
UT vs Colo 10-7-0
UT vs Neb 8-4-0
UT vs Missu 16-5-0
UT vs KSU 5-5-0
UT vs KU 6-2-0
Texas vs old SWC rivals
UT vs Ark 57-21-0
UT vs TCU 61-20-1
UT vs Rice 69-21-1
UT vs SMU 47-22-4
UT vs U of H 16-7-2
The conference team with the best record all time vs Texas is KSU

WarEagleFan · 10 months ago

BB I was just thinking how from an outsiders view these discussions are as bad if not worse than some ALA-AUB ones we have the in Alabama! What's your take on which rivalry is more intense?

Bama_Babe · 10 months ago

Both are intense, hatred-filled rivalries...

I just think the Texas-Oklahoma has seemed so much bigger because usually the Red River Rivalry/Showdown determines who goes on to win the Big XII South.........and the Iron Bowl hasn't had much significance on a national level recently because one team is up and one is down - meaning the game is for bragging rights only....unless there is an upset.

But I think the Iron Bowl is more intense - being from the state of Alabama - because I live in the intensity. If I were from Texas or Oklahoma, I might think differently. ;)

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

Or Indiana, trust me. This year my hometown (which is just off the Ohio border) seemed to show more interest in the Red River Rivalry than OSU/ Mich (helped out, no doubt, by Rich Rodriguez lol).

Bama_Babe · 10 months ago

That was my point....the the RRR gets more interest on a national level because both teams are usually ranked in the Top 10 going into the game.

I don't have anything against either Texas or Oklahoma. I lived in Texas for a short while when I was little and liked the Longhorns, and I've liked OU ever since i made the trip out there in 2002. I wasn't complaining about the "discussions"....I was just taking a stab at the BCS by saying no one will ever be satisfied and there will always be controversy...

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

I was just looking for a chance to make fun of OSU/Mich, and since we were talking about rivalries...

Zac · 10 months ago

U go right ahead and keep right on making fun of MI. That thar's all right with me.

Gatorader · 10 months ago

Personally, I'll enjoy basking in the glow of a crystal football for a few months...

Besides, I can't get anything done on the weekends during college football season.

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Careful, you might get the reputation of sounding like TigerEducated, he wades pretty deep in that crystal football swamp...

Ben Prather · 10 months ago

UN-DE-FEA-TED!!

Yes, basking in the glow is nice!

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Now there's some smack.....

TampaGator · 10 months ago

UN-DE-FEA-TED*

* Utah 13, New Mexico "Los Lobos" 10.


GO GATORS!!

NMLSooner · 10 months ago

NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!*

Mississippi 31, Florida 30. IN THE SWAMP!

TampaGator · 10 months ago

???

What exactly are you suggesting there, chief?

That OU wasn't worthy of the BCS game, seeing as how they got absolutely shut down, SEC style, by a team that lost by one point to another SEC team, Ole Miss--who, b/t/w, scored more than twice as many points as that "mighty OU offense" was able to muster, against the exact same UF defense, that shut OU down???

I realize you're based out of New Mexico, but damn son...think things through.


GO GATORS!!

NMLSooner · 10 months ago

First, I'm not based out of New Mexico nor have I ever lived a single day of my life in New Mexico. I don't personally know a single person from NM or ever rooted for any team from New Mexico! My point was to point out that if you can put a stupid * by undefeated for Utah, again he did not say National Champions, then why not put one by Florida for losing AT HOME. Congrats to your Gators on winning the NC. You held Oklahoma to their worst offensive output of the season, but I believe our "sucky BIg XII defense" did the same to your Gators offense. So I think you need to think things through also. By the way, you would have known I wasn't from New Mexico if you would have taken five seconds to look at my profile. It list where I live!

TampaGator · 10 months ago

Well then...as Gilda Radner would say:

Nevermiiiiind......

My bad; I thought I remembered you posting at some point that the NM in NMLSooner had something to do with New Mexico. I guess I misunder-rememberated--to paraphrase our former Mr. Prez.

Sure, we could put an * on most anything; it's just my canned reply to Utah's "undefeated"--seems to me though, that it's counter productive for either UF or OU to point out weaknesses in each other.

UF party line: OU in '08 was undisputably the best damn team in the land....after UF, of course...


GO GATORS!!

NMLSooner · 10 months ago

By the way I went to college just east of Tampa about an hour. Warner Southern College in Lake Wales. I think it's Warner University now.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 10 months ago

If they're going to continue to throw out that Ole Miss game, I feel compelled to dogpile:

Auburn 27 Florida 17*!!!!!



*2006 season

Whew! I feel better now...

Bama_Babe · 10 months ago

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OU_Ron · 10 months ago

It's just not worth it, is it BB ;-)

Bama_Babe · 10 months ago

Haha, I guess it's not.
I tried....I was defending NMLSooner, but he beat me to it...so I just figured I would stay out of it ;)

How is recruiting looking out in Norman? Only 6 days!

NMLSooner · 10 months ago

I'll take all the help I can get! : )

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

I think we will get 2 or 3 more by the deadline, Rueben Randle would be the cherry on top..

Bama_Babe · 10 months ago

I'm very interested and anxious to see where RR will end up...

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Yeah it's hard to tell what he's going to do, usually those high profile guy's let something slip that would give you an indication on what he plans to do, but RR is quiet, anybodys guess, I guess...

Zac · 10 months ago

I'm sorry bout this, Ron, but when I see RR, all I can think about is Rich Rodriguez. Silly, I know, but...

TampaGator · 10 months ago

BB:

Funny thing about disqus--even if you delete or amend a comment, the original still shows up in the target's email. Frankly, your comment was solid, as usual; well exectued, and appropriate--especially coming from a bammer.

I'm just having fun here. No disrespect intended to Utah, nor Ben...nor OU....nor New Mexico....nor Lousiana....nor Michigan...nor OSU...nor USC....nor FSU....or whoever else's toes I've stepped on rescently...

....hell, it's acutally quite a list as I think about it!


GO GATORS!!

Bama_Babe · 10 months ago

Yeah, I knew you would get it anyway. It was just trying to keep from having repetitive comments since NMLSooner cleared it up.

That is quite a list. And I'll just ignore that "especially coming from a bammer" comment.... You just think you can bully up on everyone else just because your team owns the crystal ball.... just kidding...I know it's all in good fun ;)

TampaGator · 10 months ago

BB:

FWIW: "especially coming from a bammer" was directed at the comment being appripo--in light of the Bama-Utah game--it wasn't intended as in "....pretty articulate for a bammer" sense.

I like bama; I was bama bound, until I received my letter of acceptance to UF. So again, no disrespect intended.


GO GATORS!!

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

TG even 4-8 Texas A&M beat Los Lobos

Tommy_Trojan · 10 months ago

I'm just gonna have to set ya'll up straight. And, as much as I'm not too thrilled about the Longhorns or the Sooners - here's the way it really is.

08' Texas 45 Oklahoma 35
07' Oklahoma 28 Texas 21
06' Texas 28 Oklahoma 10
05' Texas 45 Oklahoma 12
04' Oklahoma 12 Texas 0

In the last five years, Texas has beaten Oklahoma three out of five, and have outscored them by 27.8-19.4 in those five games. In addition to that, Texas has an overall record of 56-8 over that time, while Oklahoma has fallen short with a mark of 54-13.

Bowl Games:

08' Texas 24 Ohio State 21
07' Texas 52 Arizona State 34
06' Texas 26 Iowa 24
05' Texas 41 USC 38
04' Texas 38 Michigan 37

08' Florida 24 Oklahoma 14
07' West Virginia 48 Oklahoma 28
06' Boise State 43 Oklahoma 42
05' Oklahoma 17 Oregon 14
04' USC 55 Oklahoma 19

Texas is 5-0 in their last five bowl games, outscoring the opposition, to the tune of 36.2 to 30.8 per game. Oklahoma is 1-4 in the last five bowl games, getting clobbered along the way, to the tune of 24.0 to 36.8 per game. It is interesting that Oklahoma has gotten hammered harder out of conference, than they've been beaten up by Texas, and that both teams give up a substantial amount more points when they play against OOC teams in Bowl games.

In all catagories: Texas wins, hands down, in the last five years. No debate!

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Tommy, you should have posted this a long time ago, no need for any more arguments or discussions....glad you straightened us out...I'm sure you just convinced everyone out there that the horns are the greatest....do you think it will be ok if we pass along our opinions every once in a while though, it would make the time pass faster...

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

You can't deny it, he's right :-)

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

If he's right, why didn't texas win the south title 4 out of those 5 years instead of Oklahoma ???

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

Well we actually won it twice because we tied for first, we just lost the tie-breaker.

HamnEggs28 · 10 months ago

Tell us again how many Big 12 Championships you have won in the last 5 years? And how many has OU won? Say it out loud so everyone can hear, even TommyT.

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

How many national titles has OU won in the past 5 years? And how many has Texas won? That's what you play for, NATIONAL TITLES, NOT BIG XII CHAMPIONSHIPS.

And it won't let me reply to your other post, I think it's too close to the abyss, but do you honestly think that Mack Brown stopped coaching Vince Young? That is completely ridiculous, no player is so good that they don't need coaching.

NMLSooner · 10 months ago

We like National Championship too. That's why we have seven.

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

Unfortunately, none of those fit in the time period I was asking about since we have been discussing over the last 5 years.

NMLSooner · 10 months ago

Yeah, I know. But I'm also pretty sure Texas has some things hanging around the compound celebrating their conference championships. So I think they play for those too.

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Probably have a hard time finding them hanging around considering that the're so few of them..;-)

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

Yes, they do, but I think it should be considered more of a stepping stone than the final goal. Neither team wants to win the conference, and just have it stop there. They want that to lead to an NC.

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

NML
FYI Texas has 27 Conf Champs
25 SWC & 2 B-12

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Looks like Texas should have stayed in the SWC ;-)

GeauxTigers0107 · 10 months ago

I'm goin get some popcorn. This is gonna get real good real quick...lol.


Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Popcorn, I went to a movie this past weekend to see Grand Torino, Popcorn was 7 bucks....it may be another 10 years before I go to another one...

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 10 months ago

That was roughly the cost of a Grand Torino back in the day, huh, Ron?

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Movie=36.00 for two.....balcony...heated seats with a waitress...4 crown and cokes=32.00...7.00 for popcorn....75.00 to watch a 2 hour movie that has a unlike Eastwood ending...I really didn't care after the 2nd drink..

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

I forgot...plus tip..

GeauxTigers0107 · 10 months ago

I can't wait to see that movie. Is it as good as the trailers lead us to believe?

And WEA may be taking a pot shot at your age below...lol.

Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Most Eastwood movies end with him kicking ass....It's a good movie, I won't say anymore so you can enjoy it......as far as taking a pot shot, he could shoot blind folded and hit the target...I'm getting slower..;-)

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 10 months ago

I'm just plinking... Just plinking...

I've got a question for you boys: actually, go to the bottom so you can read it properly...

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

GT good movie- dont talk to anybody or read anything, just go see it 5 stars in my book, well written and directed-good acting

Zac · 9 months ago

"That's what you play for, NATIONAL TITLES, NOT BIG XII CHAMPIONSHIPS."

Tez kinda harrrd to get therrrre, ef yee're no wenn'n yeer conferrrrence champayyunshep. (Thought I throw a Scottish accent in with that rebuttal.)

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Losing a tie breaker means they lost.......right ??

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

According to this they're first http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=251 they just didn't get to play in the CCG because of sos and style points (yes, I still think style points helped put OU over the top). And no, it means we need a new way to decide who plays in the CCG lol.

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

That's good BB, just keep changing it until it favors texas, Stoops will keep playing by the rules, what ever they are !!

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

I was looking for one that showed the 3-way tie, but that was the best one I could find. Besides, I didn't change anything, that's exactly how I found those standings :-)

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/big...

Is this one better? Cfbdatawarehouse is basically the official stat site, and they are co-champions. You can also see all of their conference championships, and there are quite a few of them

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

were they co-champions in the BCS ???

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

You asked about the Big XII champ, not BCS. Stop changing the guidelines here to try to make me feel stupid lol.

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Not changing anything BB, the Big 12 champ is OU.......they played in the ccg and beat Mizzou....OU has the trophy.......OU was higher in the BCS, thats why they played in the CCG....what don't you understand about that....I'm not trying to be a smart ass, it can't be changed...OU is the Big 12 champ..

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

The thing that has me confused is your post: "were they co-champions in the BCS ???" The answer is no, but OU isn't the champion in the BCS either, so I don't see the relevence in even mentioning it. The BCS decides on a single champion, and leaves plenty of debate in its wake.

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Fine pal, think what you want....I give up...

Bevo_Boy · 10 months ago

I'm not trying to make an argument (there, anyway), just didn't really understand what you were asking there.

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

This is probably the best post ever on fanblogs- Just the facts, I know for others it gets kinda old and ESPN hates my team. Look Tommie T and I have had our fare share of disagreements, however when you just look at the facts there is no dissaggreement. Just last night I watched a Big 12 showcase program recorded right after Texas beat KU 35-7. This program was on Fox sports and the commentators one former Missu player the other former OK state coach.After showing the highlights of the game all they talked about was margin of victory and style points and how the coaches are going to vote and how great OU is etc etc. Guess the whole nation with the exception of Longhorn fans ate that crap up- week after week until they were brainwashed. The results of this fallacy that was perpeturated upon the American public, once again proved that the system failed the sports nation. If you cant dazzlem with brilliance bafflem with bull-sh-t.
Hookem-Horns

NMLSooner · 10 months ago

So the fact that Oklahoma could blowout some pretty decent teams was BS. Oklahoma is not the problem in this formula. THE FORMULA IS THE PROBLEM. A two team playoff is almost always going to leave teams with legitimate arguments out. As long as the BCS is like it is, this is the way it works: If you lose you leave it up to chance. The only exception to that rule is: If there are more than two undefeated teams from major conferences, we have been unsuccessful in finding a team of scientists who can devise a way for more than two of them to play in a single championship game. You can gripe about Stoops running up the score. I don't agree that he did, but it isn't any worse than Brown politicking the way he did. It's the system not the teams.

Tommy_Trojan · 10 months ago

OU_Ron:

Well, just prior to these fascinating numbers, Oklahoma was clearly the dominate team for the previous five years or so. So, these things have a tendancy to go back and forth in this rivalry, so therefore feel free to sound off about what's gonna happen in the future - as I am sure that the "worm turns" eventually. It did for Texas, as they were getting hammered by Oklahoma, right up until 05'.

Don't mean to stop the smack talk - just throwin' a little more gasoline on that thar fire is all. Let the "rivalry" continue.

HamnEggs28 · 10 months ago

Hey Tommy T....this is a little off the subject but I have posted this question before without getting a response. Do you know the status of the NCAA investigation of Reggie Bush's alleged rules violations? It has been several years and very little is being said about it. Is the investigation continuing or is it dead?

Tommy_Trojan · 10 months ago

HamnEggs28:

The Reggie Bush thing is dead. The University had no complicity in whatever Bush was up to. He ripped off some agents somehow. He probably took some money. I really doubt if he ever signed with them though. Signing with an agent is what could have caused problems for Southern Cal. I think the guy gave them a "verbal commitment" for cash. After leaving USC, he spurned the agents, ripped them off for their bread - and therefore the agents exposed it to the media. The University was never involved - and I think that it is probably a dead issue for the NCAA. Seriously, why should the University be punished, because of the actions of this clown - completely off campus?

Regan · 10 months ago

Reggie Bush is a bad person. He is the only player in all of football that I actually wouldn't feel bad to receive a massive injury.

While I do believe that SCAL should receive something due to the "buck stopping here" notion, when I think what might be appropriate, I just draw a blank. This mess happened over 3 years ago; any punishment would be hurting kids that weren't even around then, and RB will get off scot free, no doubt giggling with OJ about getting away with murder. (Too far, sorry...)

IOW, SCAL should have been more proactive (compliance departments exist for a reason), but when it actually comes down to the meat of the issue, reason demands that the team shouldn't be punished. It would hit the wrong people, no matter how you slice it.

Although, Tommy, if you can haul this &%$#@*$ into a parking lot, I'd hold 'em down for ya. :)

Tommy_Trojan · 10 months ago

Regan:

I guess that PacMan Jones would be a saint, right? Not defending Reggie Bush, but the PacMan, makes Reggie Bush look like a choir boy. I wouldn't give two hoots about anything that happened to Jones either. Made Jerry Jones' faith in him really inwarranted - not to mention the money that Jerry Jones lost.

While Reggie Bush caused college football a black eye in general, PacMan Jones' every action since inception, has been nothing short of an attack on common decency. Maybe both ought to be taken out and put on a tree somewhere.

Regan · 10 months ago

Yeah, Bush just got hyped to the point of absurdity IMHO. Excessive Hype is my #3 biggest pet peeve (the list as of now stands at 30).

Tommy_Trojan · 10 months ago

Regan:

Is that all you can come up with is 30 "overhyped" guys? Every year the media pumps up about ten guys who really are not all that. The guy that was "the GO to GUY" for that Trojan team was LenDale White. He got all of the tough yardage to keep drives alive. Bush got off a few "highlight reel" runs that the media would get all googly-eyed over. LenDale White didn't have "the flash". He just got the job done.

Regan · 10 months ago

No, my 'Pet Peeve List' now stands at 30.

"Excessive Hype" in general is #3 on the list. Pet Peeve #2 is "People who drive slow in the Fast Lane."

LenDale White was cool. Reggie Bush should be drawn and quartered and his body burned. IMHO.

GeauxTigers0107 · 10 months ago

Reggie Bush is the best sideline to sideline runner in the NFL...bar none!


Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

HamnEggs28 · 10 months ago

There are many NCAA infractions of which schools are not aware. A kid taking money from an Alum without the school being aware is an infraction. Why would this be any different? Also, I am not a lawyer and sure do not know the details of this incident, but a "verbal commitment" backed up by acceptance of cash would certainly constitute a binding contract.

One last question, when you say it is dead, do you know if the NCAA has dropped the investigation?

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

Tommie T We know you like stats and how bout bowls?
What happened the last time Texas played in the{ insert bowl} game ?
Feista Texas vs Ohio St 24-21
Rose Texas vs USC 41-38
Cotton Texas vs LSU 35-20
Holiday Texas vs AZ St 52-34
Sugar Texas vs V Tech 28-10
Orange Texas vs Bama 21-17
Alamo Texas vs Iowa 26-24
Bluebonnet Texas vs Pitt 32-27
hookem-Horns

Tommy_Trojan · 10 months ago

Tomcat:

Now I could have sworn that I just posted above that Texas was 5-0 in the last five bowl games. Those are not stats - they are facts. Are you callin' me out for defending the Longhorns? I've told you that you need to put that bottle down, dude! That stuff is rottin' your brain. Or, maybe you've acquired the "mad cow disease" from eatin' too much of that thar raw steak. You should try cookin' the stuff just a little bit longer. It don't have to still be "mooin" while your wolfin' that stuff down.

This is what I had posted above. NSTFU!

Bowl Games:

08' Texas 24 Ohio State 21
07' Texas 52 Arizona State 34
06' Texas 26 Iowa 24
05' Texas 41 USC 38
04' Texas 38 Michigan 37

08' Florida 24 Oklahoma 14
07' West Virginia 48 Oklahoma 28
06' Boise State 43 Oklahoma 42
05' Oklahoma 17 Oregon 14
04' USC 55 Oklahoma 19

Texas is 5-0 in their last five bowl games, outscoring the opposition, to the tune of 36.2 to 30.8 per game. Oklahoma is 1-4 in the last five bowl games, getting clobbered along the way, to the tune of 24.0 to 36.8 per game. It is interesting that Oklahoma has gotten hammered harder out of conference, than they've been beaten up by Texas, and that both teams give up a substantial amount more points when they play against OOC teams in Bowl games.

"In all catagories: Texas wins, hands down, in the last five years. No debate"!

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Tommy, two questions
First, what team dominates the Big 12 ??
Second, what does NSTFU mean ??.....I must be slow

The_Observer · 10 months ago

Not trying to jump in your conversation, but I think NSTFU is short for...

"Now Shut The F@&! Up!"

I'm guessing what N stands for because I've never seen it used there before.

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

Well that makes sense, I could have used that a few times in the past, although I probably wouldn't.................thanks

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

Tommie T I wasnt calling you out, I just used the wrong wording
BTW the mad cow disease jokes arent funny down here- its kinda sad, we are going thru a terrible drought, cattle prices have dropped to a ten year low and feed prices have skyrocketed.
As a result the local cattle auction closed last week. People are forced to hold on to what they have and feed them, other then sell them at a huge loss. The Auction was losing money because of low prices and fewer head being sold. They work off of straight commission and the weekly operating costs are a constant. I'll have to haul a couple of animals tommorrow to another town bout 23 miles away, guess I'm going to have to put a liscense plate on my trailer, because I'll be crossing a county line. Its got to rain eventually
Adios Tomcat

Zac · 10 months ago

"Wa happened…" seems to be a question continuously asked throughout this thread. Given this question seems to have spanned throughout college football history, I'll stick to my attempt at an answer by limiting said attempt to this past season.

Before I do so, I will, yet again, attempt an analysis of the three teams in question: OK, TX, & TX Tech.

Non-Conference Schedule: Edge to TX. Though having played only 1 BCS team, it did include 2 Bowl winners and an aggregate 27-23 record. OK takes 2nd, having played a tale of 2 cities; 2 BCS, 2 Non-BCS, 2 11-game winners, 2 11(or more)-game losers. Tech takes 3rd, boasting no BCS teams, 2 of which are Div-2 teams, with an aggregate record of 21-27.


Tech Vs TX

Non-Conference: Edge to TX Head to Head: Edge to Tech

Games in common: Both hosted Baylor & OK St, and played at KS
Tech beat them by scoring deltas of 7, 36, & 42 respectively.
TX beat them by scoring deltas of 24, 4, & 28 respectively.
Slight edge to Tech having done better jobs against OK St & KS

Key games not in common: Tech hosted NE, visited KS St & OK; beat NE by 7 (NE, 9-4, beat Clemson), KS St (5-7) by 24, & completely unraveled in Norman losing by 44.
TX visited CO (5-7) winning by 24, beat MO (10-4, beat NW) by 25, & beat OK on "neutral" ground by 10. Edge to TX.

Bowl Games: Ole Miss (9-4) beat Tech by 13; TX beat OSU (10-3) by 3. Arguably, Tech should have been able to handle Ole Miss. Arguably, TX should have beaten OSU by more. Slight edge to TX.

Overall: Slight Edge to TX


OK Vs. TX

Non-Conference: Slight edge to TX Head to Head: Edge to TX

Games in Common: None (B-12 schedule - when OK was away, TX was at home & visa-versa.)

Key games not in Common: TX hosted MO (won by 25); OK met MO for B-12 Championship (won by 41). TX hosted OK St (won by 4); OK visited OK St (won by 20). TX hosted Baylor (won by 24); OK visited Baylor (won by 38). TX visited KS (won by 28); OK hosted KS (won by 14). Edge to OK.

Bowl Games: OK managed to score only 14 pts (40 pts below their pre-bowl average) in a 10 pt loss to NC, FL. TX was held to 20 pts below their season average in a 3 pt win over presumably inferior OSU. Slight edge to TX.

Overall edge to TX. (BTW, this is consistent with what I stated in an earlier thread titled, "Look at the Big XII Resumes.")


Let me save everyone the suspense involving a comparison between OK & TX Tech. I comes out in favor of OK. In short, between the 3 comparisons, TX takes 2 of them. While some of this is based upon opinion, it doesn't change that fact that in my opinion, TX would have been the better choice against FL. However, it didn't happen that way, and ultimately that be the bottom line. It's time to live with it and move on.

1Tomcat · 10 months ago

Zac read my post at the playoff thread-because its pretty much sums things up and I'm not going to bump heads with Regan this entire off-season
Go BYU beat the h outa OU

Zac · 10 months ago

Actually, TC, you need to re-read a couple of mine. At the end of 2008 the Big-12 had the perfect scenario to hold a Big-12 conference play-off. Think about it. The NCAA has determined a conference has to have at least 12 teams for a conference championship. The NCAA doesn't define how a conference champion is determined in a 12-team conference. My preference would have been to play-off OK, OK St, TX, & TX Tech. Given the conference's alignment, it would have had to have involved MO, OK, TX, & TX Tech. The Big-12 could have settled it in 2 weekends and still have given the winners & losers sufficient time to make their respective bowls. The opportunity was there for the taking and the Big-12 didn't take it. As a result, we gots wat we gots.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 10 months ago

Here it is: I said to some friends the other day that I'd love to see them rework the Dirty Harry franchise, either as a modern day version or even as a period film (setting it back in the early 70s.) The thing that stumped all of us, including me, who am rarely stumped, was who do you get to replace Eastwood as Harry Callahan?

My eventual answer was that you have to get an unknown to play him. Most of the actors these days are waaay too sissy to give that role the respect it richly deserves. Any that you can think of?

OU_Ron · 10 months ago

WEA, I can't think of anyone that could get close to his personality.....I think what would be more interesting would be to pick a Fanblogs member that you think could be called dirty Harry just by how they post.......I know who I would pick..

WarEagleFan · 10 months ago

Christian Bale was the first one I thought of but maybe not....

GeauxTigers0107 · 10 months ago

Bruce Willis would be good. But there's another guy....just can't recall his name....maybe Ian something or other....played in a couple of action movies not long ago as a Dirty Harry type guy.

I'll see if I can't dig up the name and get back to you.


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GeauxTigers0107 · 10 months ago

Jason Statham.....lead actor in Crank.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Statham
http://www.thefader.com/blog/files/jason.jpg

He's a good action star. He's British though. Don't know how well that accent would go over. No one will ever play it as good as Clint did. He was the man.


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War_Eagle_Atlanta · 9 months ago

Something about this video has really been eating at me the last two weeks. I thought it was really funny, but Kevin alluded to some bad acting. I didn't think the acting was bad, but that the editing was. Finally, after watching it a few times, it finally occured to me that the Texas girl has been cut into an existing video a la those Coors Light Coach Commercials.

You can watch the original video here. I feel so dense about missing that, but I think a lot of you missed it, too. The Texas girl does a good job, but she sounds more like she's from New Hampshire than Austin...

1Tomcat · 9 months ago

WEA Your right, it kinda bugs me when someone says you guys, instead of yall.
One time on a hunting trip in Bandera Texas, I wanted to by some ice and the lady behind the counter asked me what kind I wanted and asked me if I wanted Black Ice, I told her na I want the clear ice never heard of Black Ice, she was trying to say block ice, but I swear sounded like black ice to me.
saw something strange today an African American woman wearing a t-shirt that said Texas dats were I stay
I'm not making this up, had to kinda take a double take okay- whatever