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Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

JB — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:48:13 -0000

wow... now USC can actually have a challenge to win the PAC-10 (other than Stanford)

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

Ben Prather — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:23:34 -0000

Stanford, California, Oregon St, Oregon, Washington and WSU would reject any expansion that put them in a different division than USC, UCLA, especially in football.

The idea of USC fan is significantly more realistic, except for non-football.

Maybe they can use an ACC style structure for football and a BIG 12 structure for its other sports.

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

Ben Prather — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:16:15 -0000

If the division structure is the same for all sports this would break up the PAC 10's paired traveling arrangements that greatly reduce the costs of travel in western states differences.

Oregon State and Oregon travel to Arizona together and both play ASU and Arizona on Thrusday and Saturday during basketball season. This is the true dollars and cents value of the rivalry pair structure to the PAC 10.

I had thought of this ACC like structure, if it is only applied to football. Each team would go to Southern california three times every four years with this plan for an eight game conference schedule. A nine game schedule could bump this up to five games every six years, with some years featuring two games in southern california.

With the scheduling outlined above the California schools would all play every year. Non California schools would play in southern California twice every four years guaranteed. A nine game schedule could guarantee all teams three games every four years, the idea of pairing teams by strength would create parity and excitement for the league.

USC gets the eaziest PAC 10 schedule because they don't play USC. If they didn't play the difficulty of their scheudle would be similar to a bottom team not playing the top, to account for the fact that WSU does not play WSU.

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

2_Coast_Bias — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:32:04 -0000

Hey Tiger, i know this hasnt been discussed in a while but the Pac 10 does not have a post-season baseball tourney. just thought i might put that out there. In terms of an expanded Pac 10 i feel the best way to solve the issue would be to implement the same division structure as the Big 12. Have the arizona, utah, and southern cal schools in the south division and the bay area, oregon, and washington schools in the north division and play half the teams in the other division. Now i cant wait to see OSU v USC and UGA v ASU

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

USC fan — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 03:24:49 -0000

I haven't read all your articles - I've seen two of them. When you talk about divisions, why the assumption that USC and UCLA will be in the same division? Why not:

1. Washington, Oregon, Cal, UCLA, Arizona, Utah
2. Wash St, Oreg St, Stanford, USC, Ariz St, BYU

Or something of the like. That way, each team would be going to Southern Cal once a year or once every other year.

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

Zac — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:34:05 -0000

Hey, I think I came up with another one: Mall Country & Wine Country

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

Zac — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:25:43 -0000

Oh wata feel'n, eh TC? (Good stuff, BTW)

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

Zac — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:23:47 -0000

Thanks, Mayor!

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

Bevo_Boiler — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:59:44 -0000

That gave me an idea for the Red River Rivalry. Bevo vs. Butthead

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

1Tomcat — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:42:42 -0000

Mr Mayor Once again I failed to get my post in the proper place
Go Ducks

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

1Tomcat — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:40:42 -0000

Hello Mr Mayor My post below was addressing the tree sitter issue, thanks for the info
Not only did I post it in the wrong place, but adressed it to Ben instead of Mr Mayor
BTW love your photo
Millipede is a bug right?
If they really cared about trees they could go to Costa Rica, Guademala and protest down there.
The rain forest are being cutt down so they can plant corn for Bio Deisel

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

1Tomcat — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:09:41 -0000

Thanks for the info Ben, I would be happy to remove the treesitters without anybody getting hurt.
Seems like the folks at Cal could see the simple solution to their existing problem.
Its the Cal's property and these so-called activist are indeed violating the Law causing an uneeded spectacle that doesnt really help their so-called cause at all.
They way I look at it heck these animals are just leaches upon our soceity and that they are an unproductive burden on the rest of the country. They obviuosly dont work, all they do is sit around in trees making fools of themselves. The way I figure heck they climbed up there, so they can climb down. Its just that simple. Totally isolate the area from the rest of the world . Put up fences and barracades and pevent any contact with anybody except security forces. The Univerity is not obligated to provide these tresspasers access to food and water. Blockade this area and deny all access. They will eventually come down one way or another, it was their choice to climb up there anyway. If they resort to cannabilism or leap to their deaths or die from dehydration it really doesnt matter, because they have choosen their fate and soceity would be better off without them anyway. After going without food and water these so-called activist will start eating the trees themselves and after a week or so the university could built fires underneath the trees and smoke them out, what the heck its their property. They will come down no doubt.
They wouldnt last two days in a tree here without water 103F

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

Ben Prather — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:02:42 -0000

Unlike the SEC, the PAC 10 does value academics.

No team is going to want to be in a division without USC and UCLA. A division strict structure is an impass.

The MWC will be the last conference to sport a conference championship, after they merge with the WAC after the PAC 10 expansion.

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

Bevo_Boiler — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:55:38 -0000

Ok, maybe I should check to make sure someone doesn't make my point before me. At least int helps me know that I am right.

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

Bevo_Boiler — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:50:32 -0000

When did OU win a national title when they didn't win the conference? I remember them losing to to LSU when they didn't win the conference for the national title, but they won the conference in 2000. At least, that's assuming my memory serves me correctly and so does www.cfbdatawarehouse.com

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

Bevo_Boiler — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:38:38 -0000

Just to make sure, you didn't have to look up any of those words, did you? I think I might freak out if I looked in a dictionary and saw your picture next to the word: hypocrite.

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

Ben Prather — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:37:29 -0000

I couldn't think of anything that united the two states, so...

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

Ben Prather — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:29:10 -0000

Does a conference championship require a division structure, or to simply 12 teams in a conference?

I assumed that it only takes 12 teams but am unable to find the actual rules governing NCAA football scheduling.

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:12:01 -0000

I hired a tree sitter once, Mayor. But I had to fire her because all she did was raid the refrigerator, sneak some of my booze, and bop her boyfriend on my couch...

:-)

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:05:12 -0000

So like what did the rest of you guys on that 5th grade basketball team go on to do???

I believe that Ainge was a 3-sport All-American in high school. That's pretty hard to do...

He became my favorite player when I saw him warming up in the Pontiac Silverdome during the 1987 Eastern conference finals with his "I hate Danny Ainge" T-shirt, purchased in Detroit...

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

TheMayor — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:14:33 -0000

USC and Not USC

I love it!

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

TheMayor — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:13:34 -0000

Ben

It is what it is...if the Pac 10 doesn't own up, they'll never gain the respect of the other major conferences I'm afraid.

THREAD HIJACK ALERT: How about Danny Ainge and The Celtics winning the NBA tonight.? I don't give a ducks nut about the NBA, but he was my ball boy on my 5th grade basketball team in Eugene Oregon in 1965....so kudos to the greatest Duck B-Baller that never was.

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

TheMayor — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:08:35 -0000

Sorry make that "below." As in "below me."

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

TheMayor — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:06:05 -0000

Sorry Ben,

Talk about hijacking a thread,,,sorry I can't resist. This from the SF Chronicle about the tree sitters at Cal (my highlights):

UC removes tree-sitters' gear before ruling

"...Other protesters said they knew the woman taken out of a tree at 4:30 p.m. only as "Millipede." Doug Buckwald, director of a group called Save the Oaks, said she was an experienced tree-sitter but did not know how long she had been in the branches.

The two arborists were in a cherry-picker that banged into the trunk of the tree where the woman was perched, Buckwald said. "She screamed, and they grabbed her," he said.

As many as a dozen tree-sitters were still in the branches, 12 hours after the crew of arborists guarded by about 40 UC police officers showed up to start removing the activists' gear.

University spokesman Dan Mogulof said one of the arborists had been trying to wrap duct tape around a rope when the tree-sitter bit him on the arm. The other arborist wrestled her into the cherry picker and took her to the ground, where she was arrested, he said.

The woman had dumped a bucket of urine on two arborists earlier in the day, Mogulof said. UC police did not identify her.

The arborists and workers hired by the university dodged human waste and other debris throughout the day as they cut ropes that ran from one tree to another and removed supplies that protesters had stored in the branches.

Here’s the link:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-b...

Human waste? Never trust a woman with a one word name...Madonna, Cher and now Millipede? Although I am thinking maybe Millipede on the D-line for Cal this season, she seems tough enough.

Re: PAC 10 Expansion: Scheduling Issues

TheMayor — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:38:32 -0000

Oregington? I almost choked on my Arby's regular. potato cake and Dr. Pepper! Hysterical...