Fanblogs.com: Poor play, not penalties, is hurting Georgia in the polls
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Utah also has been having penalty problems, which raises the question...
If so many successful teams are leading the nation in penalties, are the significance of penalties on performance overstated?
While discipline pulls you through the lean times and provides toughness when down, emotional aggresiveness beats discipline when things are on a roll. Maybe some penalties are representative of an aggressive emotional team and this emotional edge helps more than the penalties cost. I do know that Utah's penalties are proportional to the strength of the opponent, though most of BYU's came against Utah State.
Indeed, in the college game a 15 yard pass interfearance is often a win over giving up a 20+ yard pass.
fosterkeats
· 1 year ago
Good... they deserve everything they get...
I live in Atlanta, their fans have gotten worse than any school I have ever competed against...
They talked so much shit, I was overwhelmed with joy when Alabama BEAT THEIR ASS...
"BLACK OUT!!!"
blackdawg
· 1 year ago
We've kicked our share of ass the last 7 years, Charlie....
fosterkeats
· 1 year ago
BLACK OUT!!!
Any school that has to do these types of GIMMICKS are low rent... If your players, fans & coaches have to do this garbage to get up for a big game, then you'll never make it to the top tier of college football...
BLACK OUT!!!
blackdawg
· 1 year ago
Last year the players wanted to wear black jerseys at some point, so coach Richt saved them for a big game, big flippin deal. All great points though!!! We really need to get up for games and that is the only way we can.
HELTER SKELTER!!! foster
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Extremely agressive teams pick up alot of penalties. The "big hitters" on the defensive side of the ball, are picking up alot more penalties, because of the "new rules". Still, that kind of agressive play, serves it's purpose in intimidating the other teams. Much like hockey, very agressive play, distracts the other team - giving them much more to think about. Many WR's, for instance, are dropping balls because they know that "big hit" is coming.
blackdawg
· 1 year ago
"the pollsters are looking at Georgia as a good team but not a great team because it makes too many mistakes and can’t put a team away."
What he said makes sense to me. I don't see that as spin. He dosen't mention bias, he states that our penalties have kept us from putting teams away. We did come back and make it close against Alabama. It is also true that the recent National Champs have had multiple close games during their seasons and even loses. We are definitely struggling in spots, and nobody at UGA is complaining that I know of. We will have our chances if we can start playing better. I can also say that our 97 yard drive before the end of the first half, Saturday was aided by two Tenn. personal fouls. The biggest penalty for us this year was the roughing the passer that nullified the Alabama fumble that we recovered on the first drive of the game.
GA_Boy
· 1 year ago
Although we have had some serious issues with penalties, many of them coming at the most inopportune time, Barnart is in the hunt but he is barking up the wrong tree. This weekend, we should have put TN away, penalties or not. We do not deserve to move up in the rankings after that scoring output. Again, I am glad to get the win but let's not cry about the rankings when we allow a team to stay in the game that should not. Now in the ASU, South Carolina, and BAMA games-penalties definitely played a part in outcome. Now, I don't like the comparison of GA's penalty YPG ranking compared to the other 6 of the top 10. It is the number of penalties that are stopping some of the drives, not necessarily the yardage. Southern Cal-45, Okie St-52, BYU-48, Texas Tech-51, Oklahoma-44, FLA-50. Georgia has had 64 penalties. 12 more than the next closest team. Those are drive stoppers and momentum changers. I still gotta say, USC being ahead of Okie St and Texas Tech in the rankings is some media love like I have never seen. If you watched that Okie game against Mizzou Saturday and the game against Oregon St for USC, you have to be a total homer to vote USC ahead of them.
GO DAWGS!!
blackdawg
· 1 year ago
GA_Boy We are going to have to dress out the cheerleaders if keep getting people hurt. Vance is gone for the year, we'll start our fourth different left tackle this Saturday.
Forget the penalties, what about the dadgum fade pattern we kept trying to complete in the end zone. Stafford had his first 300+ yd game but those two interceptions were plain ugly.
GA_Boy
· 1 year ago
Yeah, those were some BS calls right there. I don't understand why we don't just try to pound it in when we get that close. It can also set up a play action for a pass out in the flat. We just don't have the receiving corps to put up the fade and hope they catch it. It is not Stafford's pass anyway. He is better at threading the needle. The boy is not known for his touch, you know what I am saying? I will say that the drive at the end of the game looked great. I want us to start a game off like that, especially against Vandy. They just don't have the depth to keep up if we can keep their defense on the field. I know we better get TDs early. That field goal crap has been what has killed us against Vandy over the past few years.
GO DAWGS!!
blackdawg
· 1 year ago
I totally agree. It would be nice to make this a typical homecoming game again. We have enough talent even with the injuries to put it in the endzone. A.J.'s drop was a first Saturday. I'm glad for the win Saturday but we need to start making statements when we can.
Big B
· 1 year ago
Kevin, I know it is the political season, and therefore spin is rampant, but to be fair to Tony Banrhart, why not show fully what he said? I think the sentencecan be a bit misleading when the topic for that section is left out. Too bad I couldn't bold the heading like he did in his article, but the next point is about a different team (BAMA) so this is the entirety of his point on UGA and the penalties.
"1. Georgia won’t beat LSU or Florida unless it fixes penalty problem: I can’t prove it but I believe Georgia’s penalty problems are making it tough for the pollsters to show them a lot of love. Let’s look at the facts. Statistically, Georgia dominated Saturday’s game with Tennessee. But mistakes and penalties allowed Tennessee, a team that is really struggling, to stay close. Georgia had 11 penalties in this game and now leads the nation with 63 in six games. I think the pollsters are looking at Georgia as a good team but not a great team because it makes too many mistakes and can’t put a team away. Really good teams make statements when they play. Florida, for example, made an emphatic statement Saturday night when it beat LSU. Georgia will not be able to have that statement game until it cuts down on the penalties and other mental errors. And frankly, it really doesn’t matter what the pollsters think about Georgia because the Bulldogs are not going to beat LSU or Florida if they don’t get this corrected."
The reference to the pollsters is more of a backhanded slap at the Dawgs (or maybe just any rampant faction of our fans who might somehow feel slighted at not climbing the polls on the heels of other people's losses).
Anyone who thinks we deserve to be higher ranked than 10 right now are missing last year's lesson: you don't necessarily climb on the misfortunes of other teams ahead of you. You have to also deserve to climb into the spots they vacate or else someone below you who has shown something will leapfrog you. I predict that Georgia is capable of beating both LSU and UF in part because we have balance on offense, the ability to run and pass, rather than being one dimensional, but also because what appears to be a very strong run defense can make opposing teams one dimensional. However, if we cannot generate a pass rush with our D-Line, then absent a whole lot of luck in the well-timed and well-disguised blitzes department, we will get picked apart by Florida and possibly lose to LSU. Penalties won't be the cause; they will just make the bad look even worse.
Ramblin' Gator
· 1 year ago
I suspect the poll voters are being uncharitable with UGA as they just haven't been as impressive as they were the last five games of 2007. In that span, the dawgs kicked azz and took names. They were very correctly rewarded with the #2 ranking to conclude the season. This year, the dawgs are doing well, but they just don't look the same.
Perhaps it's time for another motivational uniform change (white out?) or rules violation (illegal participation by the equestrian team?) by coach Tricht.
blackdawg
· 1 year ago
I have to agree RG. We are getting by but not by much. We need to improve quick because we've got some big games coming. Last year we needed the bye week to catch our breath, but this years bye has past and we still aren't where we need to be. I can't complain about our record to this point, but with Vandy, LSU, FL up ahead we need to step it up, or we will have gone from first to worst in 9 games.
Ramblin' Gator
· 1 year ago
The good news for Georgia fans is the season is not over and the team could still do a metamorphosis like they did last year.
All Comments
If so many successful teams are leading the nation in penalties, are the significance of penalties on performance overstated?
While discipline pulls you through the lean times and provides toughness when down, emotional aggresiveness beats discipline when things are on a roll. Maybe some penalties are representative of an aggressive emotional team and this emotional edge helps more than the penalties cost. I do know that Utah's penalties are proportional to the strength of the opponent, though most of BYU's came against Utah State.
Indeed, in the college game a 15 yard pass interfearance is often a win over giving up a 20+ yard pass.
I live in Atlanta, their fans have gotten worse than any school I have ever competed against...
They talked so much shit, I was overwhelmed with joy when Alabama BEAT THEIR ASS...
"BLACK OUT!!!"
Any school that has to do these types of GIMMICKS are low rent... If your players, fans & coaches have to do this garbage to get up for a big game, then you'll never make it to the top tier of college football...
BLACK OUT!!!
HELTER SKELTER!!! foster
What he said makes sense to me. I don't see that as spin. He dosen't mention bias, he states that our penalties have kept us from putting teams away. We did come back and make it close against Alabama. It is also true that the recent National Champs have had multiple close games during their seasons and even loses. We are definitely struggling in spots, and nobody at UGA is complaining that I know of. We will have our chances if we can start playing better. I can also say that our 97 yard drive before the end of the first half, Saturday was aided by two Tenn. personal fouls. The biggest penalty for us this year was the roughing the passer that nullified the Alabama fumble that we recovered on the first drive of the game.
Now, I don't like the comparison of GA's penalty YPG ranking compared to the other 6 of the top 10. It is the number of penalties that are stopping some of the drives, not necessarily the yardage. Southern Cal-45, Okie St-52, BYU-48, Texas Tech-51, Oklahoma-44, FLA-50. Georgia has had 64 penalties. 12 more than the next closest team. Those are drive stoppers and momentum changers.
I still gotta say, USC being ahead of Okie St and Texas Tech in the rankings is some media love like I have never seen. If you watched that Okie game against Mizzou Saturday and the game against Oregon St for USC, you have to be a total homer to vote USC ahead of them.
GO DAWGS!!
We are going to have to dress out the cheerleaders if keep getting people hurt. Vance is gone for the year, we'll start our fourth different left tackle this Saturday.
Forget the penalties, what about the dadgum fade pattern we kept trying to complete in the end zone. Stafford had his first 300+ yd game but those two interceptions were plain ugly.
I will say that the drive at the end of the game looked great. I want us to start a game off like that, especially against Vandy. They just don't have the depth to keep up if we can keep their defense on the field. I know we better get TDs early. That field goal crap has been what has killed us against Vandy over the past few years.
GO DAWGS!!
"1. Georgia won’t beat LSU or Florida unless it fixes penalty problem: I can’t prove it but I believe Georgia’s penalty problems are making it tough for the pollsters to show them a lot of love. Let’s look at the facts. Statistically, Georgia dominated Saturday’s game with Tennessee. But mistakes and penalties allowed Tennessee, a team that is really struggling, to stay close. Georgia had 11 penalties in this game and now leads the nation with 63 in six games. I think the pollsters are looking at Georgia as a good team but not a great team because it makes too many mistakes and can’t put a team away. Really good teams make statements when they play. Florida, for example, made an emphatic statement Saturday night when it beat LSU. Georgia will not be able to have that statement game until it cuts down on the penalties and other mental errors. And frankly, it really doesn’t matter what the pollsters think about Georgia because the Bulldogs are not going to beat LSU or Florida if they don’t get this corrected."
The reference to the pollsters is more of a backhanded slap at the Dawgs (or maybe just any rampant faction of our fans who might somehow feel slighted at not climbing the polls on the heels of other people's losses).
Anyone who thinks we deserve to be higher ranked than 10 right now are missing last year's lesson: you don't necessarily climb on the misfortunes of other teams ahead of you. You have to also deserve to climb into the spots they vacate or else someone below you who has shown something will leapfrog you. I predict that Georgia is capable of beating both LSU and UF in part because we have balance on offense, the ability to run and pass, rather than being one dimensional, but also because what appears to be a very strong run defense can make opposing teams one dimensional. However, if we cannot generate a pass rush with our D-Line, then absent a whole lot of luck in the well-timed and well-disguised blitzes department, we will get picked apart by Florida and possibly lose to LSU. Penalties won't be the cause; they will just make the bad look even worse.
Perhaps it's time for another motivational uniform change (white out?) or rules violation (illegal participation by the equestrian team?) by coach Tricht.