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Should have stopped at 17.
Write something interesting, please...
(That is a shot of Manson for your avatar, ain't it?)
I share a birthday with Chuck...
Texas, At these programs the expectations are very high
At Texas for example an 11-2 season is a disappointing season and 9-4 is a down year
Mack Brown said that the best thing about the job is 20 million football fans and the worst thing is 20 million football fans
For example, ND: That school's President, Board of Directors/Governors, and a few local key members of the Catholic Church are pretty tough when it comes to laying out the expectations of their HC.
Bama: Deep South, Yankee's need not apply. If you're the optimistic type who feels such old, ingrained feelings are a thing of the past, guess again. Some habits really do die hard. Not only does the school apply a great deal of pressure, regarding the team's success, but social pressure as well. Boosters and fans are even worse. The job requirements and expectations go way beyond winning ball games at AL.
Miami: Like FL & FSU, they're in a recruiting hot-bed, and given their past history, there are plenty of stellar players to go around. Recently, however, things have not been so glorious. Not to mention, the neighborhood surrounding the campus is like a demilitarized zone, the facilities for the team are almost as bad as Hawaii's, and they no longer have a stadium to call home.
MI, OSU, FL, FSU, Miami, UCLA, LSU: If you don't like heavy traffic or big city driving, none of these are the place for you.
If I were given a choice of schools at which to coach, it would be ECU, IA, IA St, Penn St, TN, VA Tech. Places like this where life's a little more laid back; the fans and media are a little more forgiving; the pay and benefits are decent, and you can still do more with less year-after -year.
With the exception of LA, I wouldn't exactly cll these big city driving. Tallahassee is what... 110K people?
I went to the Capitol city twice last week and its really a test of ones nerves, way too many a-holes on the road who don't value human life.Whats really funny are these real aggressive ones who weave back and forth, from lane to lane, like they are in a big hurry, then after all their craziness they are stuck at the light right by me and haven't gained 1 second off of their trip.
Be Safe ,Be courteous, drive friendly ??
Southern Cal Running Back, 2004...
Ouch....
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/football/2...
Notre Dame has become just another mid-level team. The Georgia job is rising quickly. Iowa shouldn't be in the top 30. The coaches of half of the teams on this list would jump at the chance to coach at LSU, Clemson or Auburn.
As far as Miami goes, the Canes wanted a Miami man, hence the pursuit of Schiano and ultimately led to the hiring of Randy Shannon from within. There's no question that the Canes could have had Dennis Ericksson or any number of coaches. While you may be right that I'm *overestimating* the lure of Miami to some degree, I would challenge you to discount Miami's tradition and skins on the wall relative to Clemson's one national championship.
Really?
Hasn't it been like 20 years since they even had a 10 win season?
Just because they are ranked in the preseason poll doesn't erase decades of mediocrity .
None of these coaches would even consider leaving for "Mighty Clemson"
Clemson's 18 conference titles to Iowa's 11.
Clemson 1 National Championship to Iowa's 0.
Clemson's 80,000+ fans. Iowa's 70,000+ fans.
Ever been to Clemson? Ever been to Iowa? Who wouldn't rather live in Clemson?By the way, how's Woody Hayes doing these days? I heard that he opened a gym and is training boxers now. Maybe that's just a rumor though.
It would be VERY difficult to lure a coach away from Clemson, Auburn, or Virginia Tech. You'd have to tap into the top 12 or so programs to do that. I don't think any of those 3 schools would have much problem in taking a coach away from Iowa.
By the way, Charlie Bauman says hello.
When CJ gets Stat-ting mad, I'm gonna steer clear...
I don't know, why don't you check the hall of fame...
How bout this one..
Woody Hayes national championships: 4
Every coach in the history of Clemson national championships: 1
And the post I was responding to said "Half the teams"...I'm really impressed that you could back this up by cherry picking one.
In addition, this thread is about the top coaching jobs, not where you want to live. If that were the case, I think Hawaii would be on the list.
"You don't have to like me, just respect me."
-------Wayne Woodrow "Woody" Hayes------
B) Ive been to Clemson and it was podunk. If not for the hills it would look just like the middle of Indiana or Ohio.
C) Iowa played in a BCS game after the 2002 season, and beat LSU in the Citrus Bowl after 2004. The last time Clemson played in a bowl better than the Gator Bowl was a Citrus Bowl appearance in 1991.
In conclusion, Climpsun fans are even more delusional than Alabama fans. At least Bama won a NC in the 90's. The only thing the Purple Tigers have done in the last 15 years is choke. Maybe this is the year that changes, maybe not.
By the way, Kerry Watkins, Calvin Johnson, Tashard Choice, and 3 of the last 4 say hello.
B.) Don't come back. If you can't appreciate natural beauty then you need to stay in the concrete jungles.
C.) We'd take Iowa to the cleaners this year. Anyone who thinks that a coach would leave Clemson to go to Iowa is horribly mistaken. The only way they'd have a prayer to get a coach from us, is if we let him go.
By the way, Calvin Johnson had a great game against us the last time he played us, didn't he? Using the logic of handpicking one performance, CJ, James, Woody Dantzler, and 4 of the last 7 say hello as well. After this season, make that 5 out of the last 8.
A little cranky because GT will be lucky to have 7 wins this year, are we?
Mea culpa.
They have an awesome home field advantage- its lookin like a big one
Gigem-Aggies
I don't recall Texas backing away from anybody including Ohio State and Arkansas. Its kinda lunacy in a way for a fan of a particular team to criticize their opponents schedule. Wouldn't not favor your particular teams schedule to play a team that quite frankly,probably plays one of the nations toughest schedules. Texas in 2008 plays 3 teams that finished 07 in the top ten and 9 teams that went bowling
Texas Schedule 2008
Florida Atlantic 2007 Sun Belt Champs 8-5 Bowl winners
@ UTEP C-USA 2007 4-8
Arkansas SEC 2007 8-5 lost to Missu-Cotton Bowl
Rice C-USA 2007 3-9
@ Colorado B-12 2007 6-7 lost to Bama - Independence Bowl
Oklahoma B-12 chumps 11-3 lost to West Virginia
Missouri B-12 2007 12-2 Bowl Winners beat Arkansas-Cotton
Oklahoma State B-12 2007 7-6 Bowl winners beat Indiana-Insight
@ Texas Tech 2007 9-4 Bowl winners beat Virgina Gator Bowl
Baylor B-12 2007 3-9
@ Kansas B-12 2007 12-1 Bowl winners beat Virginia Tech-Orange
Texas A&M 2007 7-6 lost to Penn State- Alamo bowl
@ Kansas City Big-12 Champ game against Missu,KU,Colo or Neb
Big bowl game against anybody AZ st, Iowa,USC, Mich whoever and win
Hey Lennie I'll be at The Luling Longhorn Garcia Bud Lite tailgate party, we are located on the south east side of DKR Memorial, we are sponsered by Bud Lite and we have Luling City Market sausage- look for the big burnt orange tent with the banner, we will be there Aug 30 prior to kickoff- come on by and say hello, eat a ring of sausage. You can recognize me because I'll be wearing burnt Orange
Adios Tomcat
Heck ole Howard has been talking noise- its looking more & more like a purty good one.
Hookem-Horns
Adios Tomcat
This Saturday I'm not sure of kickoff time, but we will leave several hours before kickoff- for sure. The folks at the tailgate are really cool folks, the only bummer is those dang porta-cans- shoot its got to be 110F in those things. Hey you mentioned that you work at a medical center perhaps Seton over on 32nd street. I got my hand sewed up one time over there and they did a pretty good job even replaced part of my thumb. I went to Brakenridge one time and they sewed up my head after I busted out a windsheild on a 58 chevy. Stay away from the small town hospitals- they scare me.
Peace out
Adios Tomcat
Miami couldn't find a coach that wanted the job because Canes fans are spoiled and every coach is in the hot seat from day one. I guess these coaches are a victim of Miami's national titles. I'm sure more coaches would love to coach your school over Miami because the expectations are lower and they can 1)stick around with job security, 2)actually BUY a house and not rent it, and 3) enroll their kids in school without worrying about uprooting them too quickly. At Miami we recommend that coaches rent a house in Coral Cables or a condo on Star Island......don't BUY a house because it may be on the market in 2-3 years. As far as Randy Shannon....he deserves (and will get) a longer leash becuse he has played a big roll in Miami's success....both as a player and coach. No other former Miami coach can boast that(to my knowledge).
Zac, you've obviously never been to Coral Gables.
http://www.miamicondocommando.com/images/Coral_...
Everyone jumped on my mention of Clemson. I dont believe they belong at the top of the list but I do think that an argument can be made that they deserve to be on it as much as many of these teams.
Kevin, I did not say that any of these teams would "quiver" if a non top 20 team above came calling. The debate is over which is a better job not a better team.
OK. Enough of this silliness. Just 5 more days (if you include Wake at Baylor on Thursday) until we can have truly meaningful converstations about whose mother does what to whom.
Furthermore, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Virginia, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Georgia Tech, and Florida State are the only schools that care about athletic facilities in the ACC.
Miami, Duke, Wake Forest, BC, and Maryland don't care about athletic facilities at all and it shows because they can't hire 1st tier coaches. Jim Grobe at Wake does more with less than any coach in America. I expect Grobe to be at Penn State next year.
hope that lonk works Texass fans.
The second would be Ohio State. Beat Michigan or be gone. And the third would be Michigan. Beat Ohio State or be gone. Arguably the greatest rivalry in sports.
Fourth would be Texas.
The rest would follow the top teams in the top conferences. USC, Nebraska, Oklahoma, FSU, FLA, Miami, LSU, Goergia and the like. I am not trying to reduce these teams in any away as all and more have great programs and have won their share of championship. I am basing my top four on tradition alone and the alumni and fan base that these teams have.
For what it's worth I think this season is huge for the program. This year's recruiting class wasn't stellar, and the best part was actually from last year. He needs to get another solid class in Columbia, and this year's results could determine a lot there.
As one of my coworkers (a long time Carolina fan and grad) says, "Carolina has always been able to hang with anyone with their first 22, the problem arises when they have to go deeper into the lineup." If Spurrier can remedy that, you might be proven correct.
As for who is number one? Right now it would have to be Ohio "bcs loser" State. They have facilities, 100,000 plus at the horse shoe, a conference bid every year, coaching, and they get the kids to come there. I like the texas pick, I think alabama, usc and florida should be in the top five also. Other then that does it really matter. No other schools float my boat. Clemson is a place that is very interesting to me. I think they might be the sleeper this year in the Championship Chase.
It's almost impossible to follow a legend into even the most desirable coaching situations. Imagine how much scrutiny will be placed on Pete Carroll's successor, someday. Jimbo Fisher is now staring down the barrel of this gun.
There are exceptions to The Zook Effect, most notably Les Miles who has been at least as good and possibly better than Nick Saban.