I guess listing the top five reasons you should play football at OU on my facebook page is out of the question now......oh well, it was hard to pick just 5 out of the hundred or so......
Mr2Bits
· 7 months ago
Please make sure to include : Guaranteed BCS game with the runners-up package yearly
OU_Ron
· 7 months ago
# 2 on my list is Guaranteed Big 12 Championship........without an *
Wardboy3
· 7 months ago
Both of those comments are too funny! Glad you can poke fun at yourself!
OU_Ron
· 7 months ago
That's number # 1 on my top five list....
Ben Prather
· 7 months ago
Its time to get started making facebook fan pages for the recruits of the other 119 schools not named Utah...
Ramblin' Gator
· 7 months ago
Watching 60 Minutes last night, it appears Utah is still trying to shed the "cold fusion fiasco" 20 years later. Perhaps facebook "bombing" other research institutions could help?
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 7 months ago
Bring a national title BACK to NC State? So this was basketball recruiting?
So Facebook has the clout, but not the blogs? I think the blogs are next in line for the NCAA...
If I was the creator of the Facebook page, I would have plead 1st ammendment, but of course your team is being held hostage in the meantime by the NCAA.
Maybe the site owner should have given some conditions to NC State, like scoring some tickets or something...
On the other hand, if doing this was allowed to stand due to the 1st amendment, I'd hate to see what it devolved into.
TigerEducated
· 7 months ago
It's an absolutely ridiculous stance, and its an Assault on Free Speech...
Just like the Orlando Sentinel Article says...Name me one player since the advent of the site itself that made his decision based on a Facebook page?
Gimme a break...We know they all make their decisions based on player hostesses sitting on player's laps, & of course, after they're invited to make believe parties with butt nekkid strippuh hoez, drugz, & all sorts of Bonghorn Boosters in Dallas...
Right Ron? :)
OU_Ron
· 7 months ago
Hostesses sitting on recruits laps is LSU's specialty, we give em little red sports cars to drive.......that usually does the trick.
TigerEducated
· 7 months ago
I heard you guys like YouTube'ing the recruits before they sign to...I hear your President's REAL fond of that...
As far as what you said...Isn't that known as the "Rhett Bomar Signature Special Sign & Drive Event" each Fall when the Frosh report at the Norman Area Car Dealerships?
OU_Ron
· 7 months ago
Yeah, but most people get tongue tied trying to say that, so we just refer to it by saying " RBSSS&DE "
TigerEducated
· 7 months ago
Ron, I like you, man...
[Please...no Bromance jokes, guys]
hrposon
· 7 months ago
TE - Don't forget that the mothers get the AP loaner for life Mercedes Benz. If the moms agree to bad mouth LSU or Texas they throw in a Crimson and Cream SUV for the rest of the family.
OU_Ron
· 7 months ago
You're wrong...........LSU has nothing to do with it..
hrposon
· 7 months ago
You're right, Ron..
Bama_Babe
· 7 months ago
This is absolutely ridiculous.
So, say, if Trent Richardson were to be my friend on Facebook during NSD, could I have gotten in trouble for my status saying "Come on Trent, put on the crimson!" right before he made his choice? Obviously not, because that would CLEARLY be protected by the 1st. But a fan page? Really?? Definitely not affecting recruits decisions, unless the page was created by someone wealthy and promised the recruit something in return...
USC1801
· 7 months ago
The NCAA has overstepped on this one. What constitutes "influence" in their minds will have to be weighed against the greater import of free speech.
But even harder to determine will be the motives of those creating the pages. For example, what if I, a USC fan, were to post a similar such page but pose as a Clemson fan? Would I be able to have Clemson placed on probation? (let the hacking begin!) If, as the NCAA asserts by flexing its muscles, the web pages really do have an "illegal" influence on a players choice, then I'm sure someone will try to negatively impact another university to the benefit of their own school.
Bottom line: The NCAA is just blowing smoke IMO.
Ramblin' Gator
· 7 months ago
In addition to free speech and the other issues mentioned already, I have to object to the NCAA's stance here just on pragmatic grounds. Does the NCAA really expect its member institutions to police the entire internet to assure that no one is making any positive inferences about that institution and one of its recruits?
TigerEducated
· 7 months ago
It'd be one thing to perhaps ATTEMPT to monitor a student doing it on campus...
It's another to attempt to do to everyone whom the NCAA considers a Booster...
Any Season Ticket Holder...Any member of a group like our Gridiron Club or Tiger Athletic Foundation here at LSU, like myself, or otherwise...It's dizzying trying to keep up with it as an individual...Much less the amount of Compliance Personnel you'd have to hire to monitor your ENTIRE FANBASE & the ENTIRE INTERNET...
Ramblin' Gator
· 7 months ago
Agreed - this is completely unrealistic. In the computing business, we would call this a solution that is not scalable.
Zac
· 7 months ago
NCAA spokesman, Erik Christianson: "We don't see it as a free-speech issue. What we do see it as is a recruiting issue...We want to be sure that we limit that level of intrusion that comes into their lives."
This is a US Supreme Court decision waiting to happen. Fans are all over the place. They're getting the inside scoops and posting them on U-Tube, via e-mails; they're texting on cell phones and lap-tops. How can an educated man see this as really being all that different; not to mention, being all that much influential to a school's prospective recruit. It stands to reason, for as many drawn to a school through such efforts, there will be as many driven away.
Clearly this Christianson character either knows nothing of the law, or got his law degree from a cereal box. (Just one more reason NOT to like the NCAA - They don't want to regulate. They want to RULE!)
CJ, you've got it in 1. That which can do good can also be abused. In fact, someone has already done something similar. I think it happened in the Big 12. OU Ron, wasn't OK the recipient of another's deceit? Didn't K-Hue post a thread to that effect, or did we briefly discuss it on an open thread?
TigerEducated
· 7 months ago
He probably got his law degree from Tulane...
[For Tampa Gator]
BamaBorn
· 7 months ago
I would love to see every school pull out of the NCAA. They constantly overstep their boundaries.
gatorhippy
· 7 months ago
I would think CFB coaches Twitter feeds would be more of a concern than FB...
TigerEducated
· 7 months ago
Franchione is kicking himself for not strip-mining that revenue stream while at A&M...
fosterkeats
· 7 months ago
There are other "recruiting" violations on Facebook that are more important to look out for... they usually involve 13yr old girls and pederasts...
TigerEducated
· 7 months ago
You've been on a roll lately...
Zac
· 7 months ago
You got my vote for "Blogger Of The Month"!
jold
· 7 months ago
All I can say is that this needs to stop.
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Zac
· 7 months ago
Hmmm... You say "...this needs to stop." What, specifically? Are you referring to the alleged recruiting violations, as discussed in the article above? Could it be recruiting violations in general? Are you referring to the over-all abuse of the internet via tools such as U-Tube or Facebook? How do you feel about coaches e-mailing or texting prospective recruits and their families? OR, is it the overbearing authority imposed upon collegiate sports (especially upon college football) by the NCAA? Maybe it's this blog? Maybe it's all these questions? So, "what" needs to stop?
Ben Prather
· 7 months ago
I think he is talking about the habit of some to post pithy comments with a link to a product of a firm they are attempting to market...
jwallfan
· 6 months ago
NCAA allows coachess from NCSU to recruit on youtube webpage. What is the difference, because the student was on facebook? Give me a break!!
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So Facebook has the clout, but not the blogs? I think the blogs are next in line for the NCAA...
If I was the creator of the Facebook page, I would have plead 1st ammendment, but of course your team is being held hostage in the meantime by the NCAA.
Maybe the site owner should have given some conditions to NC State, like scoring some tickets or something...
On the other hand, if doing this was allowed to stand due to the 1st amendment, I'd hate to see what it devolved into.
Just like the Orlando Sentinel Article says...Name me one player since the advent of the site itself that made his decision based on a Facebook page?
Gimme a break...We know they all make their decisions based on player hostesses sitting on player's laps, & of course, after they're invited to make believe parties with butt nekkid strippuh hoez, drugz, & all sorts of Bonghorn Boosters in Dallas...
Right Ron? :)
As far as what you said...Isn't that known as the "Rhett Bomar Signature Special Sign & Drive Event" each Fall when the Frosh report at the Norman Area Car Dealerships?
[Please...no Bromance jokes, guys]
So, say, if Trent Richardson were to be my friend on Facebook during NSD, could I have gotten in trouble for my status saying "Come on Trent, put on the crimson!" right before he made his choice? Obviously not, because that would CLEARLY be protected by the 1st. But a fan page? Really?? Definitely not affecting recruits decisions, unless the page was created by someone wealthy and promised the recruit something in return...
But even harder to determine will be the motives of those creating the pages. For example, what if I, a USC fan, were to post a similar such page but pose as a Clemson fan? Would I be able to have Clemson placed on probation? (let the hacking begin!) If, as the NCAA asserts by flexing its muscles, the web pages really do have an "illegal" influence on a players choice, then I'm sure someone will try to negatively impact another university to the benefit of their own school.
Bottom line: The NCAA is just blowing smoke IMO.
It's another to attempt to do to everyone whom the NCAA considers a Booster...
Any Season Ticket Holder...Any member of a group like our Gridiron Club or Tiger Athletic Foundation here at LSU, like myself, or otherwise...It's dizzying trying to keep up with it as an individual...Much less the amount of Compliance Personnel you'd have to hire to monitor your ENTIRE FANBASE & the ENTIRE INTERNET...
This is a US Supreme Court decision waiting to happen. Fans are all over the place. They're getting the inside scoops and posting them on U-Tube, via e-mails; they're texting on cell phones and lap-tops. How can an educated man see this as really being all that different; not to mention, being all that much influential to a school's prospective recruit. It stands to reason, for as many drawn to a school through such efforts, there will be as many driven away.
Clearly this Christianson character either knows nothing of the law, or got his law degree from a cereal box. (Just one more reason NOT to like the NCAA - They don't want to regulate. They want to RULE!)
CJ, you've got it in 1. That which can do good can also be abused. In fact, someone has already done something similar. I think it happened in the Big 12. OU Ron, wasn't OK the recipient of another's deceit? Didn't K-Hue post a thread to that effect, or did we briefly discuss it on an open thread?
[For Tampa Gator]
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