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Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

jwallfan — Thu, 14 May 2009 22:09:10 -0000

NCAA allows coachess from NCSU to recruit on youtube webpage. What is the difference, because the student was on facebook? Give me a break!!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

Ben Prather — Sat, 02 May 2009 14:34:11 -0000

I think he is talking about the habit of some to post pithy comments with a link to a product of a firm they are attempting to market...

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

Zac — Sat, 02 May 2009 12:27:29 -0000

Hmmm... You say "...this needs to stop." What, specifically? Are you referring to the alleged recruiting violations, as discussed in the article above? Could it be recruiting violations in general? Are you referring to the over-all abuse of the internet via tools such as U-Tube or Facebook? How do you feel about coaches e-mailing or texting prospective recruits and their families? OR, is it the overbearing authority imposed upon collegiate sports (especially upon college football) by the NCAA? Maybe it's this blog? Maybe it's all these questions? So, "what" needs to stop?

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

jold — Sat, 02 May 2009 11:48:19 -0000

All I can say is that this needs to stop.

**edited - no commercial links, please**

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

Zac — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:28:50 -0000

You got my vote for "Blogger Of The Month"!

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

hrposon — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:37:15 -0000

You're right, Ron..

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

-TE- — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:46:27 -0000

You've been on a roll lately...

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

fosterkeats — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:42:32 -0000

There are other "recruiting" violations on Facebook that are more important to look out for... they usually involve 13yr old girls and pederasts...

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

-TE- — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:07:31 -0000

Franchione is kicking himself for not strip-mining that revenue stream while at A&M...

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

-TE- — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:55:02 -0000

He probably got his law degree from Tulane...

[For Tampa Gator]

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

OU_Ron — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:27:50 -0000

You're wrong...........LSU has nothing to do with it..

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

gatorhippy — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:09:23 -0000

I would think CFB coaches Twitter feeds would be more of a concern than FB...

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

BamaBorn — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:26:11 -0000

I would love to see every school pull out of the NCAA. They constantly overstep their boundaries.

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

hrposon — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:21:42 -0000

TE - Don't forget that the mothers get the AP loaner for life Mercedes Benz. If the moms agree to bad mouth LSU or Texas they throw in a Crimson and Cream SUV for the rest of the family.

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

Zac — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:04:18 -0000

NCAA spokesman, Erik Christianson: "We don't see it as a free-speech issue. What we do see it as is a recruiting issue...We want to be sure that we limit that level of intrusion that comes into their lives."

This is a US Supreme Court decision waiting to happen. Fans are all over the place. They're getting the inside scoops and posting them on U-Tube, via e-mails; they're texting on cell phones and lap-tops. How can an educated man see this as really being all that different; not to mention, being all that much influential to a school's prospective recruit. It stands to reason, for as many drawn to a school through such efforts, there will be as many driven away.

Clearly this Christianson character either knows nothing of the law, or got his law degree from a cereal box. (Just one more reason NOT to like the NCAA - They don't want to regulate. They want to RULE!)

CJ, you've got it in 1. That which can do good can also be abused. In fact, someone has already done something similar. I think it happened in the Big 12. OU Ron, wasn't OK the recipient of another's deceit? Didn't K-Hue post a thread to that effect, or did we briefly discuss it on an open thread?

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

Ramblin' Gator — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:47:17 -0000

Agreed - this is completely unrealistic. In the computing business, we would call this a solution that is not scalable.

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

-TE- — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:58:45 -0000

It'd be one thing to perhaps ATTEMPT to monitor a student doing it on campus...

It's another to attempt to do to everyone whom the NCAA considers a Booster...

Any Season Ticket Holder...Any member of a group like our Gridiron Club or Tiger Athletic Foundation here at LSU, like myself, or otherwise...It's dizzying trying to keep up with it as an individual...Much less the amount of Compliance Personnel you'd have to hire to monitor your ENTIRE FANBASE & the ENTIRE INTERNET...

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

-TE- — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:55:56 -0000

Ron, I like you, man...

[Please...no Bromance jokes, guys]

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

Ramblin' Gator — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:50:48 -0000

In addition to free speech and the other issues mentioned already, I have to object to the NCAA's stance here just on pragmatic grounds. Does the NCAA really expect its member institutions to police the entire internet to assure that no one is making any positive inferences about that institution and one of its recruits?

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

Ramblin' Gator — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:39:48 -0000

Watching 60 Minutes last night, it appears Utah is still trying to shed the "cold fusion fiasco" 20 years later. Perhaps facebook "bombing" other research institutions could help?

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

Wardboy3 — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:11:59 -0000

Both of those comments are too funny! Glad you can poke fun at yourself!

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

OU_Ron — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:05:49 -0000

# 2 on my list is Guaranteed Big 12 Championship........without an *

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

USC1801 — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:52:35 -0000

The NCAA has overstepped on this one. What constitutes "influence" in their minds will have to be weighed against the greater import of free speech.

But even harder to determine will be the motives of those creating the pages. For example, what if I, a USC fan, were to post a similar such page but pose as a Clemson fan? Would I be able to have Clemson placed on probation? (let the hacking begin!) If, as the NCAA asserts by flexing its muscles, the web pages really do have an "illegal" influence on a players choice, then I'm sure someone will try to negatively impact another university to the benefit of their own school.

Bottom line: The NCAA is just blowing smoke IMO.

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

Bama_Babe — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:22:21 -0000

This is absolutely ridiculous.

So, say, if Trent Richardson were to be my friend on Facebook during NSD, could I have gotten in trouble for my status saying "Come on Trent, put on the crimson!" right before he made his choice? Obviously not, because that would CLEARLY be protected by the 1st. But a fan page? Really?? Definitely not affecting recruits decisions, unless the page was created by someone wealthy and promised the recruit something in return...

Re: Recruiting violations on Facebook?

OU_Ron — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:19:36 -0000

Yeah, but most people get tongue tied trying to say that, so we just refer to it by saying " RBSSS&DE "