DISQUS

Chip · 1 year ago

Not sure how this is allowable or not, as I'm not familiar with the NCAA regs. However, I do know that sports like lacrosse and baseball can scrimmage against other teams in the fall. But here's the catch - those games don't count against the standings, but they do count against the maximum number of regular season games those squads are allowed to play in an academic (or is it sports?) year. Would this rule be applicable to football? Maybe someone else knows better.

Zac · 1 year ago

I wasn't aware of any rules governing this issue. I don't even think it's an issue. A scrimmage is a scrimmage and nothing more. It's like a more formalized, simulated game, practice. High schools have scrimmages against other high school teams all the time. It's a good way to gauge a team against those in that team's conference by scrimmaging a team from another conference which may be similar to those that given team will meet in the course of a season. It also provides game experience for a team against another team.

During any given season an SEC squad will meet stiffer competition, for the most part, than some of the lighter non-conference competition we've been used to seeing (a trend which has been improving, by the way). Still, by pitting a team against a solid 1-AA squad in an unofficial scrimmage, a coach can give say an inexperienced QB, or 2ndary, etc. valuable game experience.

So, in effect, this brings me back to the basic question, "Why not?"

SEClikesDiv11 · 1 year ago

Because they are a bunch of sissies!!!!! They BUY games to pad their schedule--Who won the Arkansas-Missouri game? They are close to Arkansas and could save a lot of $ for both programs, but Arkansas won't play Missouri!!!!!

Tell me why, would you?

Zac · 1 year ago

If I were WVU's HC, and had an opportunity to play MO, hell yeah I'd play em! Hell, I'd play AR, for that matter. But, you're right; I don't think AR would play WVU. I would be very surprised if MO backed down from em, though.

Porcine · 1 year ago

I didn't know you cared so much. In the SWC was considered a major conference. We had 8 teams to play in conference. Our nonconference usually consisted of Tulsa, Oklahoma State or Ole Miss. That leaves one spot available. Why would we add another major school like Missouri to that?

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

So only in the 'pre-season', huh? Hey, why not? I was thinking that maybe CFB could have one or two preseason games like the pros, but I don't think that would work. But practice ain't bad. We could send a few school buses over to Tuscaloosa and pick up those guys. Oh... Lower division, eh?

Meyer's argument could be made moot if they organized these scrimmages before the fall semester classes started.

Personally, though, I don't see college presidents allowing this to happen...

Zac · 1 year ago

You just know somebody would eventually elude to the costs involved. That's usually enough to put the kabotz to anything.

SEClikesDiv11 · 1 year ago

Sounds like we might have similar ideas? I used to live in Mo. Where are you?

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

Ridiculous. The thought is, we cut our risk of injuries by 50%, As 50% of the players on the field are not ours. Not only that, the practice dummies are probably smaller. It will take one hell of a dumbass Div 2A coach to sign his first string up for one of these stupid scrimmages.

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

I'm with you here. Where does it end anyway? Division III or High School teams? What's the problem with practicing hard against your own guys? Isn't that why they hand out so many football scholarships anyway? Do we really need 88 guys to play a game? No. What your supposed to do is be building depth. Is there some kinda problem with the 2nd and 3rd string players in the SEC? Are they not up to the standards of the rest of the country. You can bet your azz that Pete Carroll will never do this. How the hell is your team gonna improve by playing against the weakest competition. It aint gonna happen. All of the SEC'ers have comfirmed that the SEC plays the toughest schedules and that is what makes them the best. I would concur. We know that Ohio State doesn't and that is why they were not ready for those two games. Even "Sweater Vest" himself has figured that out and has scheduled USC this year and next. So, for SEC teams to want to weaken themselves with this practicing method - does not make any sense at all to me.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Welcome back, Tommie T.!! Like the swallows returning to Capistrano, I knew that you return to fanblogs for the start of the season. Any truth to the rumor that you moved out to the midwest?

SEClikesDiv11 · 1 year ago

Thanks for the note. I get really frustrated with the way Arkansas PRETENDS to be a
real SEC team. But they will not make the short drive to play Missouri, or Oklahoma,
but it might be better now that Houston Nut has left. Arkansas is the Great Fake.

Porcine · 1 year ago

If we are going to play any of you b12 guys it's going to be schools we already have a history with like Texas and A&M. Oh, wait we are playing them.

SEClikesDiv11 · 1 year ago

By the way---tell me how Western Illinois did against Arkansas last night, an SEC team. (I think????)

Porcine · 1 year ago

They did what any young and inexperienced team in a new system did. Not just real good.

SEClikesDiv11 · 1 year ago

Yes, but how did Arkansas???? are they supposed to do that?

Maybe there is a reason the new coach left the pro league??

Porcine · 1 year ago

When Petrino arrived, our receivers had no experience, our qbs mechanics were screwed up, our o-line knew 1 pass protection, our defense, who returned 3 or 4 starters, didn't know any zone. Last years defense were athletic and had a lot of experience but gave up the second most yards in school history. Herring really earned that $330,000, highest for a DC in the conference. Our punter is a bright spot and the kicker, who is pretty good, dislocated a knee cap in the summer. Our depth chart has 26 freshmen, not counting special teams. Nutt is overrated as a recruiter and developer and this is evidence of that.

SEClikesDiv11 · 1 year ago

Porcine, glad to hear from you and say what you did.

Nutt leaving is the best thing that could have happened to Arkansas.Sometimes I wonder if Arkansas over pays
football coaches (basketball also?)

Porcine · 1 year ago

I think Pelphrey is going to do alright. He is in the same boat as Petrino, having to start from scratch and weeding out the problems. Heath could recruit, but didn't have the control and couldn't get enough consistency out of them. He was too calm and wasn't tough enough.

Zac · 1 year ago

I'm not disagreeing with you, TT, but I think the question (Maybe I misinterpreted it.) was whether or not they should be allowed to. As I've already said, I don't know that there is anything governing this issue, or that it's even an issue.

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

HEY, HEY, HEY, hold on there mighty protector of the penises. Some SEC coaches were the first to be ambushed with this question. Consider who this Ron Higgins works for, "Memphis Commercial Appeal". Ole Ron is probably drunk and dancing around in his undies with this taste of national attention.

SEClikesDiv11 · 1 year ago

Aren't commodes made from Porcine????? ; 0

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

WEA:

No tryin' to get out of Cali (or is that Baja - can't tell anymore) and over to Nevada within a year or so. Does Nevada count as the Midwest? It sure as hell will be better than Northern Mexico - that's for sure. So you guys ready to do anything this year? Think you can take down the Cats and hold back the Tide?

John · 1 year ago

WEll being from Arkansas they should JOIN a conference with 2A schools, they schedule so many now! I am embarassed at the schedule Arkansas plays. If they think I am going to pay the amount it costs to go to a game, I can drive to Missouri, Memphis, or others that play a Major College
Schedule. Somebody please stand up and take the bull by the horns and make Arkansas and some others play the schedule and quit paying money to mini schools to help bolster
Arkansas' record!!!!!!!!!!! Also how about stopping the drinking and drugging--You do it and you are off the team!!!!! Perirod, Amen----get your stuff and leave! This is a school for you to get a degree and prepare you for a real life, not to play a game.

Porcine · 1 year ago

Isn't John another word for toilet?

SEClikesDiv11 · 1 year ago

Might be, don't know. But your pic sure looks like a commode.

Where you from, and why are you so f@#$&*@ offensive?

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

That's not offensive, he was just stating a fact, and why are you making fun of his picture, hell he's the best looking one in our family !!!

SEClikesDiv11 · 1 year ago

ha ha! That is HIS name--how bout that Porcine?

OU and in Oklahoma U ? My hat is off to that program!

Porcine · 1 year ago

That's where the stuff he's spewing should go.

SEClikesDiv11 · 1 year ago

Why would you want to practice with such weak teams?

Most squads have plenty of players to scrimmage among themselves! Would it not be better
than practicing against some Div11 schools--does that REALLY prepare you to play other
conference schools? The great player from Arkansas, now in the pro's, got a large number
of his yardage against SEMO state, which Ark payed about a million dollars to come down to
Arkansas and play! They have some good High School football in Arkansas, why don;'t
they practice with high school teams??

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

What the hell is Division 11? Where do you play? Division dumbass?

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

I was waiting for someone to bring that up....lol. Maybe an "h" is in order here.

Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

Porcine · 1 year ago

I considered it, but i don't want to overuse it causing to to lose effectiveness.

Porcine · 1 year ago

Why don't you ask Miles and Spurrier what they think?

Regan · 1 year ago

I for one believe one of the reason that SEC offenses and defenses are as good as they are is the fact that each and every day they go at it at against SEC defenses and offenses in practice.

But then again, I'm an ACC guy, so more power to 'em...

Troy #1 · 1 year ago

Why are the SEC coaches even considering playing DI-AAs? They do a fine job by scheduling cupcakes as it is? Consider the formula LSU used last year. Play cupcakes early a dash of 8 home games then the frosting on the top by playing the NCG at home. This is the formula for most SEC teams, so why even contemplate playing more cupcakes. I have a better idea! Why doesn't the SEC travel (Maybe you would get your butts kicked)? Oh, that’s right; you are the toughest conference in America. Well guess what? It’s like kissing your sister. I have to give credit to Georgia, Tennessee in coming up with this new SEC innovative idea (they are beginning to travel).

Porcine · 1 year ago

t’s like kissing your sister.

I'll have take your word for it.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Yeah, Tulane & Virginia Tech are HUGE cupcakes...

Playing the eventual ACC Champion, 11 win, BCS team and putting a 48-7 beatdown on them sure is indicative of LSU wanting to schedule cupcakes...

GREAT TAKE, there...

Like 9 month old coffee rinds...

traveler1 · 1 year ago

Why are the SEC coaches even considering playing DI-AAs? They do a fine job by scheduling cupcakes as it is? Consider the formula LSU used last year. Play cupcakes early a dash of 8 home games then the frosting on the top by playing the NCG at home. This is the formula for most SEC teams, so why even contemplate playing more cupcakes. I have a better idea! Why doesn't the SEC travel (Maybe you would get your butts kicked)? Oh, that’s right; you are the toughest conference in America. Well guess what? It’s like kissing your sister. I have to give credit to Georgia, Tennessee in coming up with this new SEC innovative idea (they are beginning to travel).

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

At least we run our problem quarterbacks off, as opposed to promoting them to starter after they sexually assault women...

Try beating Cal, UCLA, & Stanford and then come back and talk about our con-con schedule...

BTW-LSU traveled to Arizona in '03, to Arizona State in '05 (not by our design, at the last minute, and with Arizona State refusing to give us a return home date afterwards in the aftermath of Katrina-thanks a BUNCH for being so understanding, though we still hung a 33-30 W on you with JaMarcus' first start and 2nd come from behind victory!), and we lead off at UW next year in Washington!

Do yourself a favor and talk about something you actually know a lick about, because you know not of what you speak here...

LSU will have traveled out to three different PAC-10 teams in 6 seasons, and we went TO Virginia Tech to lead off in 2002...

0wn4d....

Go change your handle and respond by changing the subject...You KNOW your AD ran away from a home-and-home with us...We've been pushing for it for over 4 years, and you guys keep saying you have "scheduling conflicts" though we've offered to move it to multiple locations...

NELL · 1 year ago

FIRED THE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR. THIS NOT 1AA

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

TE:

Say what? Sanchez never assaulted any woman. You ever been to Cali son? Nothin' but Gold Diggers out here. If they aint tryin' to marry for money - then they're sure as hell gonna end up with their azz wrapped around some pole in a strip club somewhere. It's just a darn good idea that he used a Trojan.

As far as scheduling: did I get this right - USC has been ducking LSU? Southern Cal has been recruiting Louisiana hard in the last few years. It would benefit USC greatly to get games with LSU. It would not benefit LSU in any way to do that. Therefore, it'll never happen.

Personally, I think LSU is right there with USC as the premier program. LSU cannot be said to have been guilty of ducking competitive games. As you've stated: LSU did go on the road and took down a pretty good Arizona State team. Playing Virginia Tech (and stomping them) was probably the most impressive feat of the last regular season. Playing and stomping Fresno State was another game which evidenced LSU not ducking better competition. That being said: Arizona was not a good game and neither will Washington be next year. No reason to gloat over these games. Washington should have greatly improved that program by now - and haven't. This is no fault of LSU's - as they probably believed they would be getting a better game when they scheduled it. All in all: I don't think anybody is specifically lumping LSU together with the teams that like to keep a soft schedule. And, most people don't understand that the BIG FOOTBALL MONEY is in the south. Fresno for instance, would always like to play out in the better venues, than at home. They don't make money at home. They make their cheese out on the road. Same goes for alot of schools which attract a smaller fan base. They are the teams that are always clamouring for that SEC dollar. So, from a business sense, the SEC is doing a great job of pilin' in that dough. It makes no difference if LSU plays USC in a home and home or Nantucket State at home - they are still gonna make money. So, there really isn't a whole lot of incentive for a LSU to want to travel to Los Angeles. What do they have to prove?