Fanblogs.com: SEC coaches need to do their laundry
shiguy
· 1 year ago
"They're wearing black because they are going to a mother f***ing funeral." hahahaha motha f***ing awesome!
chilliiman
· 1 year ago
amen brother what an embaressment for ga fans and the sec
Tom_Blogical
· 1 year ago
Sounds like a catty clothes fight between two women.
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 1 year ago
Desperate Coachwives...
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
ROFLMMFAO! Excuse me while I wipe the Michelob Ultra off my monitor.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
I've said it before (I think yesterday actually), but I really think that if Alabama does win this one, they should be #1. Does anyone have a more impressive resume at this point than this? #20 Clemson @ Atlanta Western Kentucky @ Arkansas @ #3 Georgia (current AP rankings used)
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Clemson_Joe:
Joe, please, stop it. Your killin' me dude. Alabama # 1 - if they pull off a "major upset" over Georgia? Joe, that's why they call them "upsets". It was an upset when they beat you. If they beat Georgia - all it would mean is that Georgia is not that good (for right now). It would mean that Arizona State really blows. That's what it would mean. Alabama does not have a QB thats the right QB for a # 1 team. They can't throw the ball. When they run into the LSU's, Florida's, USC's and Oklahoma's (defensive lines) - they would be completely through. This will never be a # 1 team this year. They do not have the personnel all over the field to ever be rated that high. Your giving your team way too much credit here. Remember that your Clemson. Your always at least a Top 15 team, sometimes always flirting with Top Ten, but always stumbling a couple of times each year in games that you should have won. That's all that happened in that Alabama game. You should have won the game and were not prepared. That does not make Alabama that good. Clemson had a real bad day that day and were outcoached. Nick Saban is never gonna outcoach anybody who has tremendous talent all over the field. You'll probably get to see that this week anyway. Your getting way ahead of yourself here. Georgia is probably gonna win this game pretty convincingly. I have called for an Alabama upset myself. But, it would not make Alabama # 1 even if they did squeek by in this one. They are never gonna get through LSU this year and certainly will not run the ball much on Auburn either. If they don't figure out how to throw the ball - they'll be lucky to end up at 8-4 for the season. Your talkin' about the SEC here Joe. This is not the ACC where some team like Wake Forest can rise up and win the conference. This is gonna take a few years for Alabama to do this. This is not the year.
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
Blah blah blah.
First of all, research possessive nouns and conjunctions please. Thank you.
Secondly, I have addressed you about upsets on a different thread and you never responded.
Third, I don't care what you have to say. Babble and ramble on all you want. I presented an argument and you didn't at all counter it appropriately. If you'd like to dispute it, that's fine, but offer a team with a better resume than Alabama (after a Georgia win) and defend that.
"BC"
· 1 year ago
agreed. i think if alabama wins this, and then wins out, they still aren't #1 im sorry. but like TT said, we're a couple of years away. i think we are the best coached team in america though, and that's mainly what we've seen so far. a coach thats been able to get his guys to play harder than the other team. talent-wise, we're not there yet. especially at QB. while no one may have a better resume, we aren't #1. plain and simple.
i will say, i think we give Georgia one helluva fight to the finish, but i think Florida is top in the SEC this year no matter who wins.
You better tune in on Saturday, you may witness the best game all season. and if you didnt know, the Alabama section is doing a white-out. its gonna look pretty badass in HD.
AUtigerman
· 1 year ago
You sure about that USC defensive line? They look pretty bad to me tonight. Oregan State is going right through you.
Bamalodi
· 1 year ago
Clemson_Joe, Alabama #1 I would have to disagree but I understand your thought process though but it gives Clemson WAY TOO much credit. However if UGA wins they should be the undisputed #1 after beating ASU, South Carolina and Alabama.
Bamalodi
· 1 year ago
Clemson_Joe, I think you're giving Clemson too much credit with the statement Alabama should be #1 with a win. Clemson nor the ACC are good enough to rate like that.
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
After a win over Georgia (if they get it) name a team with a better resume. It's pointless to try to argue if you can't provide a valid counterpoint. Clemson is in the top 20 and the ACC is currently ranked 3rd by the computers, regardless of what you or I believe.
Bamalodi
· 1 year ago
Well we hear from the Left Coast and the cheaters of the West. I won't disagree with you that Alabma isn't he #1 team they aren't there yet but I have to disagree with some of your comments. Right now how much better is the PAC-10 over the ACC, at least the ACC has more than 1 team ranked??????? Who has USC played and beat to this point?? They a mediocre (at best) Ohio St team at home anybody else. Outcoached??? When was the last time Mark Richt "outcoached" anyone if anything he has coached his way out of a national title in his tenure in Athens. Give you credit USC is the best team I have watched this year but winning the PAC-10 this year will not carry as much weight as year's past. Luckily for USC they beat a POWERHOUSE in THE OHIO ST, what a joke that program is. USC has an easy road to the national title game something that LSU, Florida, Georgia nor Alabama can say.
blackdawg
· 1 year ago
"When was the last time Mark Richt "outcoached" anyone if anything he has coached his way out of a national title in his tenure in Athens."
I totally disagree with that statement.... after having the pleasure of stomaching the tenures of Ray Goff and Jim Donnan. I believe you have to be lucky and good. Richt has had seven full seasons at Georgia, three SEC championship games Two SEC titles, one 13 -1 season, five season with 10 or more wins, three BCS bowl games, five top 10 finishes. All these things occurred in the same conference inhabited by the likes of LSU and Florida, I think Richt's a pretty dang good coach.
Bamalodi
· 1 year ago
I didn't say that Richt wasn't a good coach I merely commented I don't think he has outcoached many other coaches. He has had superior talent while at UGA (just like Goff and Donnan before him). He should have a national title but has seemed to lose the big game more times than not.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
And, Bamalodi, my statement was that Saban is not going to outcoach "talent all over the field". And you know what? You just reiterated what my point was? Do you know what that word means? Work on your comprehension skills. And I don't mean trying to understand your sisters anatomy.
Bamalodi
· 1 year ago
I believe you told me early on to stay out of your conversation so now its your turn. This was a comment made between blackdawg and bamalodi not you. Besides what coach consistently "outcoaches" superior talent, surely not Mr. Carroll, when was the last time USC didn't have the superior talent???? Not hard being a successful coach with "talent all over the field".
War_Eagle_Atlanta
· 1 year ago
Perhaps a nice private conversation with one or more of our posters in the Fanblogs VIP chat room might facilitate this? Only $3.95 a minute, no credit card necessary...
blackdawg
· 1 year ago
I still disagree, I believe, you need talent, you need good coaching, and you need luck to win national championships. LSU has a great program, great coaching, great talent, but still needed luck late last season, without it you could say the same thing about Les Miles. He might even be coaching Michigan right now. Richt has had everything but the luck. Richt's second year at UGA he was 13 - 1 and the SEC championship, a few teams lose and we play for the title. Georgia, in Richt previous 7 years has only had one unanimous top ten preseason ranking, despite finishing in the top ten 5 times. We've not been set up to or expected to win it, his entire career, yet he is out coached?... Even this year, we are expected to lose due to our diffilcult schedule and can ill afford a two lose cushion that last years champion received. I'm not complaining though, I know will get our chance, it might even happen this year, with a little luck....we've got the rest.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Well sports fans, it looks like we've reached that point in the year, where everybody must enter the reeducation program. Let's get started. We'll use only data collected since the BCS system was installed, because many of our friends down south, are firmly convinced that college football began in 1998 when Tennessee won the "Crystal Ball". So, to avoid any long term trauma, we'll just leave it at that. Most kids eventually come to understand that there is no Santa or Easter Bunnie all on their own. So hopefully, normal human developement can run it's course, and some of our members will gain some insight into all that all on their own.
Records against other BCS conferences (1998-2007):
BIG EAST against: Big 12 (6-10), Pac 10 (3-5), Big 10 (9-26), ACC (23-37) and SEC (15-13). That is a (56-91) record against all current BCS conference teams. Not good. Big East's best showing is against the SEC while being completely beat down by both Big 10 and ACC conferences.
BIG 12 against: Pac 10 (24-27), SEC (16-18), ACC (12-13), Big East (9-9) and Big 10 (22-20). That is a (83-87) record against all other BCS competition. Big 12 seems to play almost every conference to almost a draw.
BIG 10 against: Pac 10 (23-30), SEC (17-19), Big 12 (20-22), ACC (14-11) and Big East (20-10). That is a (94-92) record against all other BCS competition. Big 10 holds their own overall, with Pac 10 schools giving them the most problem, while completely pasting the Big East.
SEC against: ACC (41-30), Big 10 (19-17), Big 12 (18-16), Pac 10 (6-9) and Big East (8-17). That's a (92-89) record against all other BCS competition. SEC seems to play best against the ACC while being completely dominated by Big East teams.
ACC against: SEC (37-42), Big 10 (15-16), Pac 10 (10-7), Big 12 (17-13) and Big East (37-23). That is a (116-111) record against all other BCS competition. The ACC seems to really own the Big East while playing it's poorest against SEC teams.
PAC 10 against: ACC (4-6), Big East (9-7), SEC (9-6), Big 12 (27-24) and Big 10 (30-23). That is a (79-66) record against all other BCS competition. Pac 10 seems to struggle with ACC teams but holds an advantage against all other conferences.
The numbers are taken off of Stassen's site at: www.stassen.com. I realize that there are discrepencies in the numbers. These would be caused by the constant changing around of the Big East and ACC conferences. Although the database would use current members for computing data, I believe, that it also moves all teams back (Miami, Virginia Tech, Boston College, Temple, etc.) into their historic conferences, for the purposes of compiling the data. There is no way that the numbers will all match. Records are computed against teams while they resided in those conferences. These records include all Bowl games also.
Obvious to all (unless you are an SEC fan), there is no completely dominate conference, unless it is the PAC 10. This year the Pac 10 currently owns a 5-6 record against all other BCS schools including losses to Oklahoma, Georgia and Penn State. The PAC 10 does have wins over Ohio State, Tennessee and Michigan State. Certainly, it is somewhat of a down year for the PAC 10. But historically, in the BCS era, the PAC 10 has the best record against all other BCS conferences.
BCS Championships: SEC = 4, Big 12 = 2, PAC 10 = 1, Big 10 = 1, ACC = 1 and Big East = 1. AP National Championship: PAC 10 = 1.
So, in essence, the SEC has most often had the best team. They are NOT the most dominate conference overall. In fact, most of the conferences are pretty close. The Big East, as it stands right now, is clearly the weakest of the BCS conferences.
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
Deleted. I don't care anymore.
TampaGator
· 1 year ago
"...AP National Championship: PAC 10 = 1...."
The AP only gave one NC in the last 10 years????
Color me re-educated.
GO GATORS!!
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
TG:
Is that all you could come up with? You know what it means. That was not the point of your reeducation process. Well, fortunately for you, I happen to be a very patient educator. We have all year to get you into a position to pass your college football SAT exams.
Porcine
· 1 year ago
BIG EAST against: Big 12 (6-10), BIG 12 against: Big East (9-9) I don't have time for the rest.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Porcine:
Well, you should have read the rest, because that is where it explains why that discrepancy exists.
"Some folks you just can't reach, which is the way he wants it, well he gets it! I don't like this anymore than you men do".
Porcine
· 1 year ago
Like I said, "I don't have time for the rest."
Bamalodi
· 1 year ago
TT While I appreciate your research this is very old conversation. Yes since the BCS has existed the PAC-10 has been bery successful due to USC's great run. From an SEC fan I would add that the SEC has beaten up teams within the conference but I know your response will be "so we say". Auburn comes to mind in '04 when LSU played for the MNC. 2 of the 3 best teams were from the SEC but USC was the best. SEC beats each other up all the time and no other conference out there has that problem. NOBODY!
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Bamalodi:
Try and understand this. Do you really think your the only conference that beats the crap out of each other? I just showed you that the other conferences are all about the same. Is it possible that they beat the crap out of each other also? Yes, USC's OOC record props up the PAC 10 conference. But, the conference as a whole, is still batting around .500 - just like the rest of them. Do you need those numbers minus the USC record? There are very good teams in all of the conferences that are beating the crap out of each other every single week. I'm not going to argue the point that the SEC might have the top 3-4 teams each year. That is entirely possible. But if you do, then your bottom feeders are really not very good at all, and there might be more of them. Overall conference strength was the point. We all just get a little tired of this "SEC dominance" and "the PAC 10 and BIG 10 suck" crap - when none of it is true at all. It's all perception. You guys really think it's something when Georgia (SEC #2 - probably) beats Arizona State (PAC 10 # 5 - probably). Or, you can remember that LSU beat Arizona or Washington State. So what? You probably think that Oklahoma's beatdown of Washington was really special. It's not. There about as good as Mississippi State. You don't remember that California blasted Michigan State. It only counts when an SEC team beats Ohio State. You only remember that BYU blasted UCLA 59-0. You can't recall that UCLA beat Tennessee. It's all selective memory. The rest of us on these blogs consider all games. We remember all of the games. We are not the total homers that you people are. I just gave you the facts. If you want to play "Ostrich", go ahead and bury your head in the sand, and keep babbling that SEC mantra that everybody else in the country knows is all BS. The numbers do not lie!
Bamalodi
· 1 year ago
Nope I remember it all! I believe that the SEC is the best conference, I understand that the PAC-10 has made strides and I repsect that. I remember that Cal beat Tenn last year like a step-child. I even remeber when the Big-10 had a conference outside of THE OHIO ST (???). I appreciate USC and the PAC-10 who wouldn't USC has carried that conference for quite some time however. LSU, Auburn, UGA, Florida for the past 5 years have been tough to beat and they happen to play each other. I watch them all even though I am in a time zone that a. I don't get to see all the games, b. I am in a timezone where I have to sleep I don't get to see the scores. I have circle of friends as well and they call me the professor because I forgotten more about colege football than they know. I appreciate the commentary and I see the USC winning yet another MNC.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Bamalodi:
I would not count on USC winning the National Championship. That is an extremely tough road for anybody. It is quite possible that they will lose a PAC 10 game. USC has lost only to Texas in 05' as an OOC game in the last six years or so. The other five losses have all been to Pac 10 teams.
It's not exactly a cakewalk like everybody thinks that it is. PAC 10 and SEC teams have never met in a BCS bowl game of any kind. For that matter, I'm not sure if they've played any bowl game in the BCS era. We never have equally ranked teams (within the conferences) to ever line up against each other. It does not look like we ever will. Again, if Georgia, LSU, Florida and Auburn are the cream of the crop - don't those teams prop up the SEC? I think that they do. Therefore as it is claimed, that USC is the only good team in the PAC 10, how is it that we have the better record when we only have one team doing all the work? The truth is that Oregon, California and any other number of teams - can rise up in any year and be pretty good. This conference is not just locked into four schools. This year I think that Arizona might get into the mix.
Now, I do not proport that any of those teams are quite as good as the upper echelon of the SEC (except maybe Oregon) - but many of them are very good football teams. In fact, usually there is only one real bad team in the conference in any given year. This is how USC gets upset. Would they lose more games if they played in the SEC? Of course they would. They would have to play 3-4 very good teams each year, instead of 2-3 of a little lesser talent, and would probably lose one more game per year.
Fact is: this year is wide open. Southern Cal has the best chance of going unbeaten because the PAC does seem a little weaker. The year isn't over yet. All those teams may improve by the end of the year. If they get through that - they'll end up facing another monster team in a BCS bowl game. It's really hard for any BCS team to go unbeaten.
blackdawg
· 1 year ago
You talkin to me!
I think I missed something. I personally despise the "who's got the best conference" argument. I've never liked the SEC chant in a game where we have won against an opponent from another conference. I don't believe I have ever attempted that argument in the past.
The only thing I will say is that USC, in my opinion, has a lock on west coast talent and the other PAC Ten teams need to step up in recruiting. In GA we slug it out with Tenn, FL, Auburn, LSU, Ala, Clemson, Fla State, etc. every year and we lose players like Eric Berry for example who went to Tenn., not to mention Calvin Johnson who went GT. We do get our share, but it is as competitive in the off season, as it is in the fall, and it's that way for everyone in the Southeast, not just GA.
In my earlier post I was defending Mark Richt, not the SEC.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
blackdawg:
The answer is no. Somehow I started typing out a diatribe, got about halfway through, and noticed that it was gonna be posted as a reply to your post. Too much to do over - so I just left it there. I have no idea how I started typing there. I was probably gonna reply to yours, when I noticed that Bamalodi needed some special attention, and somehow I just started blasting away. My bad!
blackdawg
· 1 year ago
No problem. Man you've got a barn burner going right now in Corvallis, way early though. I would wish you luck, but heck ya'll don't need it.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
TROJAN LEADER, THIS IS TROJAN COMMAND, DO YOU COPY? "Copy that, command, over". TROJAN LEADER, WHAT'S YOUR STATUS"? "Lace-tied and ready to ride, Command, over". WE HAVE ONE UNKNOWN SPARROW, 2300 CLICKS DUE SOUTHEAST AND CLOSING, GO NOW! GO NOW! "I have wings, I have one blip closing, over". TROJAN LEADER, WHAT IS YOUR TWENTY? "Eight minutes till payday, command, over". TROJAN LEADER, PUT THE BIRDIE TO BED"! "Nap time is comin' up, command, I see him! I see him! out..."
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Getting any compensation for those blackouts TT, think I seen that movie, Eastwood played in it, didn't he ??
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
No, it was Tom Cruise. Your thinking of the three old guys who blast off into outer space. Clint was with Tommie Lee Jones in that one.
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Naw man, it was Eastwood, he had this Russian dude chasing him in a moon rocket all thru the movie....
Bamalodi
· 1 year ago
Now that was classic!!!!!!!!!
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
TROJAN LEADER, WHAT IS YOUR STATUS, DO YOU COPY"? "Roger that, command, Santa is down the chimney, not a creature is stirring - not even a mouse, over". TROJAN LEADER, ARE ALL YOUR PACKAGES DELIVERED"? "Negative, command, only one present delivered, over". TROJAN LEADER, MERRY CHRISTMAS, RETURN HOME"! "That's affirmitive - I can smell the Bird a' cookin, out".
Bamalodi
· 1 year ago
See that lady wearing black? She makes her livin' on her back... she's a back-stroke swimmer... a back stroke swimmer.
See that lady from the south? She make her living with her mouth... she's a rock n' roll singer... a rock n' roll singer.
Come on TT!
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Bamalodi:
Your a moron. What's the Pac 10 got to do with it, Gump? Do you actually think Bama would beat USC? Get lost! We're talkin' about Clemson's loss to Bama - not USC's win over Ohio State. Go back into whatever hole it is that you just crawled out of, and if you ever find anything intelligent to say, feel free to blabber back. Until then, keep your stupid uneducated ass, out of my conversation. We've already had millions of these blabbering conversations. What are you, new? Please introduce yourself in the proper context. You've come to the wrong place here, boy!
The_Observer
· 1 year ago
Observation...
Tommy_Trojan is trying too hard. It all seems like a forced effort to be as abrasive and irritating as possible. Personally, it doesn't work for me, but I doubt that was your objective.
Tommy, I suggest taking notes from someone like TE. His spewed hatred and venom comes from the heart and is pure entertainment!
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
I agree. He tries very hard, but lacks substance. TE has plenty of substance.
TigerEducated
· 1 year ago
Posts like this one and Clemson_Joe's below...Well, what else can I say?
They truly warm my cockles...
The_Observer
· 1 year ago
Another observation...
"Your a moron." - Does anyone else see the humor in this? Hilarious!
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
It's a riot. It really is. I don't think he gets it at all.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Clemson_Joe:
Here's what I get. That the whole subject matter is irrelevent. We've gotten into this one because somebody has to make the claim that Alabama (with one good recruiting class), somehow leapfrogs LSU, Florida, USC, and Oklahoma - because they might upset Georgia. Fact is: it really isn't gonna happen anyway. All of Alabama's freshmen and sophmores are better than all of the seniors and juniors that all of these others schools are playing? All of which, have had Top Ten recruiting classes for at least five years in a row, but Bama's one top class outclasses any of that. I really don't mean to be so abrasive, but man, this stuff is just way too far out there to even look at. I just can't seem to understand, with all of these great football experts down south, that there are only three or four (TE, WEA, TG and GT) who know anything about this game (sorry if I missed one - not you BC). Alabama is not Southern Cal of 2002. USC went 6-6 in 01' and then 12-2 in 02' and finished in the Top Five. But, that team only did that because Carroll inherited Palmer, Fargas, Colbert, Kitman, Patterson, Cody, Udeze, etc. etc. .... and immediately recruited Williams, Bush, White.....All very high draft choices. Alabama does not have these kinda players. There is no way in the world that this team finishes in the Top Five this year. I am so sorry. They look real good against Western Kentucky and Arkansas. They did not look good against Tulane - at all. They have some very good things going on at the Alabama program. All Clemson saw was Alabama's potential. They have potential. But, sustaining that every game all year long is tremendously difficult. There is the injury factor. Alabama does not have enough depth right now. There are many reasons that Alabama will not win more than nine games, but because I don't know shit and all you guys do, then we'll just let you scratch your head trying to figure out "how in the world Alabama didn't win the National Championship".
The_Observer
· 1 year ago
Agreed. Alabama doesn't have the depth or the experience to make a National Championship run. It only took 2 injuries on the offensive line for Alabama to struggle against Tulane. A team like USC (which has seemingly unlimited depth and talent) would embarrass Alabama, which would be bad for both Alabama and the SEC. Alabama is 2 or 3 GREAT recruiting classes away from being in the same discussion with USC and LSU.
"BC"
· 1 year ago
Observer: youre so money.
he speaks nothin but truth i tell ya!
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
I don't think that Alabama will win the National Championship. Not at all, actually. I just think that #1 should be based off of the best resume, and the winner of Alabama/Georgia will have it for week 6.
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
"(sorry if I missed one - not you BC). "
I just can't stop laughing at that one!
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
Ramblin' Gator
· 1 year ago
Okay, I know everyone vented about how much they hate grammar/spelling retorts, but this one is truly classic!
LSUDrew
· 1 year ago
Argue all you want, but LSU is the #1 team in the country until we lose. You scoff now, but just wait until we knock florida off at The Swamp and then we'll see who's ranked #1 in both polls.
Mr2Bits
· 1 year ago
Im going to quote you on that as I dont see LSU doing the same dirty reach around they did to our D last year.
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
Doesn't quite work like that Drew. Relax a bit, my brother. BTW, humble pie DOES NOT taste good.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
LSUDrew:
Like it or not - I actually agree with you. It's 1st come 1st serve, and until the defending National Champ loses, then they should always be the # 1 team in the country. There have been a couple of cases in college football lore, where a defending National Champ, went unbeaten in the following season and did not win the Championship. I know that this did happen to Alabama in the early 60's. I agree.
Bamalodi
· 1 year ago
WOW touch a nerve did I! Never said anything about Bama beating USC took issue with the negative connotation against Alabama. This is an open forum and not your conversation. I didn't see you offer a "proper introduction"? I'll go where I like and speak to whom I like. Insults is the first sign of unintelligent life form, thanks for making it easy.
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
"Insults is the first sign of unintelligent life form, thanks for making it easy."
Nice.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Bamalodi, You sound like somebody's girlfriend. Shakespere said, "The lady doth protest too much"!
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
By the way, if Georgia wins, I certainly think that they would have the resume that would be the most deserving of the #1 spot.
Bamalodi
· 1 year ago
Clemson_Joe I believe Clemson came into the Alabama underestimating Bama and Alabama is at least physical upfront on both sides of the ball. Clemson didn't match that and they lost and it might have been there LONE loss of the season. If Alabama beats Georgia I wouldn't argue with their resume but USC are the darlings and will ride that all the way to the Championship game. Where they might get a chance to play Ohio St again, gotta love the NCAA and the BCS.
Clemson_Joe
· 1 year ago
It probably has a lot more to do with the fact that Tommy Bowden sucks and Nick Saban doesn't.
Regan
· 1 year ago
Clemson was breaking in a new O-Line and a new LB corps; this is the reason they didn't match Alabama in the trenches. Without a solid O-Line, Clemson couldn't use it's offensive firepower and without experienced LB's we couldn't add pressure to Bama's O-Line.
Clemson had talent everywhere, but lacked experience in these two key areas. Had the game taken place later in the season, the result would be far different. I can't say Clemson would have won, per se, but I know it would have been a much different game.
I have been screaming for a rematch because I am certain that the two teams at the end of the season would have a match far different from the 34-10 outcome, and I can only hope we match up once more come Bowl season.
GA_Boy
· 1 year ago
Regan Eat more chicken! You just may get your rematch in the same venue. Bama and Clemson in the Chic fil a Bowl baby!
GO DAWGS!
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
While we're talking black-outs and red-outs: Les Miles has thrown his color-preferrence hat in the ring (I know, I know....that must be a big ring) and called for a gold-out in Tiger Stadium on game day. All fans are encouraged to wear gold to show their support for the football team....(as if paying the price for season tickets - and parking - doesn't show enough support).
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
GA_Boy
· 1 year ago
Man I was just typing a long post on the Black out Thread and my wife walks by and wants to check her email. Of course she screwed it up and it did not post. I had Youtube links and everything in there. Anyway the whole point of it was simple: DAWGS run enough to make the passing game effective, Terrence "Manbreast" Cody does not do enough to disrupt the Georgia O, Georgia D keeps the Bama running game in check just enough for JPW to have to try to win it with his arm. Not going to happen!
This is really lame compared to the other post!
GO DAWGS!
GA_Boy
· 1 year ago
Man we are so out of gas in the Atlanta Metro area that some crazy analyst said that Gov Sonny Purdue should cancel the GA-BAMA game to conserve fuel. Can you imagine? If they think this fuel crisis is bad just think what a hit to the economy that would be--loss on beer and Boone's Hill wine sales alone would bring the Georgia economy to a screeching halt.
It is weird though. I went by 20 stores on my way into Atlanta today before I found some gas.
GO DAWGS!
Kevin @ Fanblogs
· 1 year ago
WTF? Why are yall out of gas? I haven't read of issues in other places - just seems to be isolated in Georgia. WTF?
blackdawg
· 1 year ago
I got a tank full today. $68.00 worth....60 miles from Athens ditches. I'm Ready for the game.
blackdawg
· 1 year ago
It has to do with refineries shutdown and damadged. A 20% drop in refined oil inventory according to what I just read. We must get that 20%, I dang sold my mule when we bought the car.
Catrina
· 1 year ago
Áthens GA is out of gas. It is official, and we don't see a probability of having any the entire weekend. So- football fans-you better come with a full tank if you want to be able to get back home.
GA_Boy
· 1 year ago
Up until 2 days ago there was a law that said 52 counties around ATL I think have to use a "cleaner" gas and with the issues with the refineries being shutdown, there was not enough of it. So like idiots our elected officials waited until EVERYBODY went out and filled their cars up about 6 days ago before they lifted the law. Then we were almost out with no sign of much being delivered in. Certain stores around have gas. I stopped today and the store only let me get $15 dollars in Conyers GA about 25 miles east of Atlanta. Purdue says its not as bad as everyone saying meanwhile he jumps a plane to Europe for the weekend. This really is knuts when you see store after store with plastic bags taped over their pumps or no prices listed on their signs.
Anyway, this crap is going to be bad tomorrow when the BAMA fans get here with empty tanks.
GO DAWGS!
MDB2008
· 1 year ago
So as far as Bama being number one. They need to beat UGA and LSU to do that then we'll talk. Just take it one game at a time and don't worry about it till after the SEC title game if we lose after we're number 1 it then really doesn't matter. And a about coaching not being able to overcome talent all over the field. How about them Beavers?
Joe & Darlene
· 1 year ago
Did ya'll see the Bama game? Just like usual, they came out balls to the wall, then sat back. They have to quit being soooo smug when they get ahead. Whip up on them, don't stop because you're ahead.
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hahahaha motha f***ing awesome!
Excuse me while I wipe the Michelob Ultra off my monitor.
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
#20 Clemson @ Atlanta
Western Kentucky
@ Arkansas
@ #3 Georgia
(current AP rankings used)
Joe, please, stop it. Your killin' me dude. Alabama # 1 - if they pull off a "major upset" over Georgia? Joe, that's why they call them "upsets". It was an upset when they beat you. If they beat Georgia - all it would mean is that Georgia is not that good (for right now). It would mean that Arizona State really blows. That's what it would mean. Alabama does not have a QB thats the right QB for a # 1 team. They can't throw the ball. When they run into the LSU's, Florida's, USC's and Oklahoma's (defensive lines) - they would be completely through. This will never be a # 1 team this year. They do not have the personnel all over the field to ever be rated that high. Your giving your team way too much credit here. Remember that your Clemson. Your always at least a Top 15 team, sometimes always flirting with Top Ten, but always stumbling a couple of times each year in games that you should have won. That's all that happened in that Alabama game. You should have won the game and were not prepared. That does not make Alabama that good. Clemson had a real bad day that day and were outcoached. Nick Saban is never gonna outcoach anybody who has tremendous talent all over the field. You'll probably get to see that this week anyway. Your getting way ahead of yourself here. Georgia is probably gonna win this game pretty convincingly. I have called for an Alabama upset myself. But, it would not make Alabama # 1 even if they did squeek by in this one. They are never gonna get through LSU this year and certainly will not run the ball much on Auburn either. If they don't figure out how to throw the ball - they'll be lucky to end up at 8-4 for the season. Your talkin' about the SEC here Joe. This is not the ACC where some team like Wake Forest can rise up and win the conference. This is gonna take a few years for Alabama to do this. This is not the year.
First of all, research possessive nouns and conjunctions please. Thank you.
Secondly, I have addressed you about upsets on a different thread and you never responded.
Third, I don't care what you have to say. Babble and ramble on all you want. I presented an argument and you didn't at all counter it appropriately. If you'd like to dispute it, that's fine, but offer a team with a better resume than Alabama (after a Georgia win) and defend that.
i think if alabama wins this, and then wins out, they still aren't #1
im sorry. but like TT said, we're a couple of years away.
i think we are the best coached team in america though, and that's mainly what we've seen so far. a coach thats been able to get his guys to play harder than the other team.
talent-wise, we're not there yet.
especially at QB.
while no one may have a better resume, we aren't #1. plain and simple.
i will say, i think we give Georgia one helluva fight to the finish, but i think Florida is top in the SEC this year no matter who wins.
You better tune in on Saturday, you may witness the best game all season.
and if you didnt know, the Alabama section is doing a white-out. its gonna look pretty badass in HD.
I totally disagree with that statement.... after having the pleasure of stomaching the tenures of Ray Goff and Jim Donnan. I believe you have to be lucky and good. Richt has had seven full seasons at Georgia, three SEC championship games Two SEC titles, one 13 -1 season, five season with 10 or more wins, three BCS bowl games, five top 10 finishes. All these things occurred in the same conference inhabited by the likes of LSU and Florida, I think Richt's a pretty dang good coach.
Records against other BCS conferences (1998-2007):
BIG EAST against: Big 12 (6-10), Pac 10 (3-5), Big 10 (9-26), ACC (23-37) and SEC (15-13). That is a (56-91) record against all current BCS conference teams. Not good. Big East's best showing is against the SEC while being completely beat down by both Big 10 and ACC conferences.
BIG 12 against: Pac 10 (24-27), SEC (16-18), ACC (12-13), Big East (9-9) and Big 10 (22-20). That is a (83-87) record against all other BCS competition. Big 12 seems to play almost every conference to almost a draw.
BIG 10 against: Pac 10 (23-30), SEC (17-19), Big 12 (20-22), ACC (14-11) and Big East (20-10). That is a (94-92) record against all other BCS competition. Big 10 holds their own overall, with Pac 10 schools giving them the most problem, while completely pasting the Big East.
SEC against: ACC (41-30), Big 10 (19-17), Big 12 (18-16), Pac 10 (6-9) and Big East (8-17). That's a (92-89) record against all other BCS competition. SEC seems to play best against the ACC while being completely dominated by Big East teams.
ACC against: SEC (37-42), Big 10 (15-16), Pac 10 (10-7), Big 12 (17-13) and Big East (37-23). That is a (116-111) record against all other BCS competition. The ACC seems to really own the Big East while playing it's poorest against SEC teams.
PAC 10 against: ACC (4-6), Big East (9-7), SEC (9-6), Big 12 (27-24) and Big 10 (30-23). That is a (79-66) record against all other BCS competition. Pac 10 seems to struggle with ACC teams but holds an advantage against all other conferences.
The numbers are taken off of Stassen's site at: www.stassen.com. I realize that there are discrepencies in the numbers. These would be caused by the constant changing around of the Big East and ACC conferences. Although the database would use current members for computing data, I believe, that it also moves all teams back (Miami, Virginia Tech, Boston College, Temple, etc.) into their historic conferences, for the purposes of compiling the data. There is no way that the numbers will all match. Records are computed against teams while they resided in those conferences. These records include all Bowl games also.
Obvious to all (unless you are an SEC fan), there is no completely dominate conference, unless it is the PAC 10. This year the Pac 10 currently owns a 5-6 record against all other BCS schools including losses to Oklahoma, Georgia and Penn State. The PAC 10 does have wins over Ohio State, Tennessee and Michigan State. Certainly, it is somewhat of a down year for the PAC 10. But historically, in the BCS era, the PAC 10 has the best record against all other BCS conferences.
BCS Championships: SEC = 4, Big 12 = 2, PAC 10 = 1, Big 10 = 1, ACC = 1 and Big East = 1. AP National Championship: PAC 10 = 1.
So, in essence, the SEC has most often had the best team. They are NOT the most dominate conference overall. In fact, most of the conferences are pretty close. The Big East, as it stands right now, is clearly the weakest of the BCS conferences.
The AP only gave one NC in the last 10 years????
Color me re-educated.
GO GATORS!!
Is that all you could come up with? You know what it means. That was not the point of your reeducation process. Well, fortunately for you, I happen to be a very patient educator. We have all year to get you into a position to pass your college football SAT exams.
BIG 12 against: Big East (9-9)
I don't have time for the rest.
Well, you should have read the rest, because that is where it explains why that discrepancy exists.
"Some folks you just can't reach, which is the way he wants it, well he gets it! I don't like this anymore than you men do".
Try and understand this. Do you really think your the only conference that beats the crap out of each other? I just showed you that the other conferences are all about the same. Is it possible that they beat the crap out of each other also? Yes, USC's OOC record props up the PAC 10 conference. But, the conference as a whole, is still batting around .500 - just like the rest of them. Do you need those numbers minus the USC record? There are very good teams in all of the conferences that are beating the crap out of each other every single week. I'm not going to argue the point that the SEC might have the top 3-4 teams each year. That is entirely possible. But if you do, then your bottom feeders are really not very good at all, and there might be more of them. Overall conference strength was the point. We all just get a little tired of this "SEC dominance" and "the PAC 10 and BIG 10 suck" crap - when none of it is true at all. It's all perception. You guys really think it's something when Georgia (SEC #2 - probably) beats Arizona State (PAC 10 # 5 - probably). Or, you can remember that LSU beat Arizona or Washington State. So what? You probably think that Oklahoma's beatdown of Washington was really special. It's not. There about as good as Mississippi State. You don't remember that California blasted Michigan State. It only counts when an SEC team beats Ohio State. You only remember that BYU blasted UCLA 59-0. You can't recall that UCLA beat Tennessee. It's all selective memory. The rest of us on these blogs consider all games. We remember all of the games. We are not the total homers that you people are. I just gave you the facts. If you want to play "Ostrich", go ahead and bury your head in the sand, and keep babbling that SEC mantra that everybody else in the country knows is all BS. The numbers do not lie!
I would not count on USC winning the National Championship. That is an extremely tough road for anybody. It is quite possible that they will lose a PAC 10 game. USC has lost only to Texas in 05' as an OOC game in the last six years or so. The other five losses have all been to Pac 10 teams.
It's not exactly a cakewalk like everybody thinks that it is. PAC 10 and SEC teams have never met in a BCS bowl game of any kind. For that matter, I'm not sure if they've played any bowl game in the BCS era. We never have equally ranked teams (within the conferences) to ever line up against each other. It does not look like we ever will. Again, if Georgia, LSU, Florida and Auburn are the cream of the crop - don't those teams prop up the SEC? I think that they do. Therefore as it is claimed, that USC is the only good team in the PAC 10, how is it that we have the better record when we only have one team doing all the work? The truth is that Oregon, California and any other number of teams - can rise up in any year and be pretty good. This conference is not just locked into four schools. This year I think that Arizona might get into the mix.
Now, I do not proport that any of those teams are quite as good as the upper echelon of the SEC (except maybe Oregon) - but many of them are very good football teams. In fact, usually there is only one real bad team in the conference in any given year. This is how USC gets upset. Would they lose more games if they played in the SEC? Of course they would. They would have to play 3-4 very good teams each year, instead of 2-3 of a little lesser talent, and would probably lose one more game per year.
Fact is: this year is wide open. Southern Cal has the best chance of going unbeaten because the PAC does seem a little weaker. The year isn't over yet. All those teams may improve by the end of the year. If they get through that - they'll end up facing another monster team in a BCS bowl game. It's really hard for any BCS team to go unbeaten.
I think I missed something. I personally despise the "who's got the best conference" argument. I've never liked the SEC chant in a game where we have won against an opponent from another conference. I don't believe I have ever attempted that argument in the past.
The only thing I will say is that USC, in my opinion, has a lock on west coast talent and the other PAC Ten teams need to step up in recruiting. In GA we slug it out with Tenn, FL, Auburn, LSU, Ala, Clemson, Fla State, etc. every year and we lose players like Eric Berry for example who went to Tenn., not to mention Calvin Johnson who went GT. We do get our share, but it is as competitive in the off season, as it is in the fall, and it's that way for everyone in the Southeast, not just GA.
In my earlier post I was defending Mark Richt, not the SEC.
The answer is no. Somehow I started typing out a diatribe, got about halfway through, and noticed that it was gonna be posted as a reply to your post. Too much to do over - so I just left it there. I have no idea how I started typing there. I was probably gonna reply to yours, when I noticed that Bamalodi needed some special attention, and somehow I just started blasting away. My bad!
See that lady from the south? She make her living with her mouth... she's a rock n' roll singer... a rock n' roll singer.
Come on TT!
Your a moron. What's the Pac 10 got to do with it, Gump? Do you actually think Bama would beat USC? Get lost! We're talkin' about Clemson's loss to Bama - not USC's win over Ohio State. Go back into whatever hole it is that you just crawled out of, and if you ever find anything intelligent to say, feel free to blabber back. Until then, keep your stupid uneducated ass, out of my conversation. We've already had millions of these blabbering conversations. What are you, new? Please introduce yourself in the proper context. You've come to the wrong place here, boy!
Tommy_Trojan is trying too hard. It all seems like a forced effort to be as abrasive and irritating as possible. Personally, it doesn't work for me, but I doubt that was your objective.
Tommy, I suggest taking notes from someone like TE. His spewed hatred and venom comes from the heart and is pure entertainment!
They truly warm my cockles...
"Your a moron." - Does anyone else see the humor in this? Hilarious!
Here's what I get. That the whole subject matter is irrelevent. We've gotten into this one because somebody has to make the claim that Alabama (with one good recruiting class), somehow leapfrogs LSU, Florida, USC, and Oklahoma - because they might upset Georgia. Fact is: it really isn't gonna happen anyway. All of Alabama's freshmen and sophmores are better than all of the seniors and juniors that all of these others schools are playing? All of which, have had Top Ten recruiting classes for at least five years in a row, but Bama's one top class outclasses any of that. I really don't mean to be so abrasive, but man, this stuff is just way too far out there to even look at. I just can't seem to understand, with all of these great football experts down south, that there are only three or four (TE, WEA, TG and GT) who know anything about this game (sorry if I missed one - not you BC). Alabama is not Southern Cal of 2002. USC went 6-6 in 01' and then 12-2 in 02' and finished in the Top Five. But, that team only did that because Carroll inherited Palmer, Fargas, Colbert, Kitman, Patterson, Cody, Udeze, etc. etc. .... and immediately recruited Williams, Bush, White.....All very high draft choices. Alabama does not have these kinda players. There is no way in the world that this team finishes in the Top Five this year. I am so sorry. They look real good against Western Kentucky and Arkansas. They did not look good against Tulane - at all. They have some very good things going on at the Alabama program. All Clemson saw was Alabama's potential. They have potential. But, sustaining that every game all year long is tremendously difficult. There is the injury factor. Alabama does not have enough depth right now. There are many reasons that Alabama will not win more than nine games, but because I don't know shit and all you guys do, then we'll just let you scratch your head trying to figure out "how in the world Alabama didn't win the National Championship".
Alabama is 2 or 3 GREAT recruiting classes away from being in the same discussion with USC and LSU.
youre so money.
he speaks nothin but truth i tell ya!
I just can't stop laughing at that one!
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
Like it or not - I actually agree with you. It's 1st come 1st serve, and until the defending National Champ loses, then they should always be the # 1 team in the country. There have been a couple of cases in college football lore, where a defending National Champ, went unbeaten in the following season and did not win the Championship. I know that this did happen to Alabama in the early 60's. I agree.
Nice.
Clemson had talent everywhere, but lacked experience in these two key areas. Had the game taken place later in the season, the result would be far different. I can't say Clemson would have won, per se, but I know it would have been a much different game.
I have been screaming for a rematch because I am certain that the two teams at the end of the season would have a match far different from the 34-10 outcome, and I can only hope we match up once more come Bowl season.
Eat more chicken! You just may get your rematch in the same venue. Bama and Clemson in the Chic fil a Bowl baby!
GO DAWGS!
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
Anyway the whole point of it was simple: DAWGS run enough to make the passing game effective, Terrence "Manbreast" Cody does not do enough to disrupt the Georgia O, Georgia D keeps the Bama running game in check just enough for JPW to have to try to win it with his arm. Not going to happen!
This is really lame compared to the other post!
GO DAWGS!
It is weird though. I went by 20 stores on my way into Atlanta today before I found some gas.
GO DAWGS!
Anyway, this crap is going to be bad tomorrow when the BAMA fans get here with empty tanks.
GO DAWGS!
Nevermind. It's over.