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Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

OU_Ron — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:05:10 -0000

TC, why don't ya Hulu.com for Texas vs K State for the last two meetings, that should really give you some chills, hmmm

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

1Tomcat — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:22:17 -0000

Thanks Kev We enjoy watching the sooners get beat thanks
Cant wait for those TCU Frogs and Texas Tech Red Raiders to whup OU again like the last time they played them

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

Bevo_Boiler — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:23:29 -0000

Yeah it was 1982. Oklahoma has beaten WVU twice, also. Once in 1957 and once in 1978. Both of those games were in Norman.

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

Bevo_Boiler — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:02:43 -0000

Hey, Mack Brown has a National Championship, thank you. Go make fun of Charlie Weiss or something. He has done well recruiting and gotten no success out of it.

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

-TE- — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:08:26 -0000

You're right, BC...Les Miles loses about 2 games/year, every year...

Nick Saban's tenure at LSU:

2000 - 8-4
2001 - 10-3
2002- 8-5
2003 - 13-1
2004 - 9-3

Prior to LSU, he only had ONE season at Michigan State where he lost less than 4 games, which was his last, in 1999, when he left before their bowl game in over Florida, finishing at 9-2...

Saban averaged THREE losses/season at LSU, which is actually one game WORSE than Les has through three seasons.

I'm guessing you'll want to leave out his prior to LSU tenure (Because believe me, you don't want any of those other 5-6, or 6-5 seasons calcuated in from his time in East Lansing, and you DEFINITELY don't want last year's record in Tuscaloser factored in, either, because the loss #'s just keep going up).

BC, you might wanna learn to stop baiting me, kind sir...You usually end up worse for wear, bud...

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

Kevin @ Fanblogs — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:28:10 -0000

Tomcat - You can find that came free of charge on Hulu.com. Enjoy the beatdown.

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

Zac — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:20:29 -0000

WAIT A Minute; wait a minute. R U tell'n me U missed the 2008 Fiesta Bowl. There it was: another opportunity for a TX fan to see OK get beat, and U missed it? ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS!!! Why back in my RAF days…ahem. To me, it was just like when WVU played GA. All game long I was in disbelief waiting for the other shoe to drop, which didn't happen. Sorry you missed it.

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

Zac — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:12:14 -0000

Actually, it was the 2nd time. I wanna say 1982; Jeff Hostetler was QB; WVU won in Norman, 41-27, after spotting OK a 14-0 lead. Trust me; I was as shocked as any OK fan, especially considering what OK did to WVU the time before that. (That game wasn't even close.)

What's weird is, after beating Switzer & company in Norman, WVU barely beat MD, the following week 28-27, when MD went for the win with a 2 pt conversion and blew it. Go figure.

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

Lennie Collins — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:02:03 -0000

1Tomcat I'll remind you that no where in any of my post did I mention a certain Texas Longhorns fan sound like a fool!

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

Lennie Collins — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:58:03 -0000

I guess a team loses once to a team the losing team never will beat the winning team ever. I am glad Navy last year didn't buy into theory when they played Norte Dame last year. I believed that was the first time West Virginia has beaten Oklahoma.

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

1Tomcat — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:42:39 -0000

Hey Zac My eyetalian buddy, I didnt get a chance to see that game, were yalls refs from the PAC-10 or did yall just beat the Sooners outright like Texas Tech and Colorado,.
Texas 4 straight bowl wins

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

1Tomcat — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:33:43 -0000

I'll remind you that no where in any of my posts did I mention a certain school or
did I make any allegations concerning any coaches.
The way I look at it, its all water under the bridge as to whether this happened
or that happened, you'll probably get over it eventually.
The main topic of the thread is NCAA violations right ?
Why would a particular coaches name even come up, heck I dunno
As a Texas fan I have alot of respect for our former adversaries
Hookem-Horns

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

Zac — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:06:33 -0000

"So when Oklahoma beats down Texas again and win a National Title..."

Remember, that'll only happen, as long as OK doesn't play WVU.

(Just yanking your chain, Lennie.)

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

Lennie Collins — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:26:51 -0000

War Eagle Atlanta we could and we can. It's over zealous youngsters like 1Tomcat. If there is proof no problem. Texas fans have no proof and they just cannot get over the fact that Texas has fewer National Titles in football than Oklahoma. A few years ago Texas recruited an offensive lineman from Oklahoma. He was smart for choosing Oklahoma over Texas BUT if a Texas high school football player player choses Oklahoma over Texas then Oklahoma "stole" or "paid" the player. Texas fans just cannot accept the fact that Oklahoma is a better program currently. Texas will have more wins than Oklahoma the next few years not because they are better...Texas is scheduling teams they feel they can beat. I did not hide my feeling about Oklahoma playing a Division 1-AA school. That Texas' style. So when Oklahoma beats down Texas again and win a National Title will will still hear how it was made possible because Barry Switzer CHEATED!

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

Lennie Collins — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:17:05 -0000

It does not matter! I don't care. It's silly Texas fans that keep bring up the Barry Switzer "cheating" topic. I am surprised you clowns have not petitioned Congress to investigate these allegations! I don't care if or what Texas offered him to play. He did not go there. I do not care what penalties Texas had on Fred Ackers watch. I have yet to read Oklahoma fans bring that up but you Texas fans hold on to that Barry Switzer cheated theory like superglue. That just another way Texas fans can justify Oklahoma having 7 National Titles in football to Texas 4. Let it go. Move on!

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

1Tomcat — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:51:32 -0000

Did your frriend play for the Sealy Tigers?
They had a great team, we played them .
Its all old stuff now, the Pontiac thing
BTW The car came from A&M boosters

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

Zac — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:07:49 -0000

"Nick Saban has begun "the process" and I'm willing to give him at least a few years to make our team a BCS regular."

Now, that's being reasonable. I can't tell you how many Bama fans I've come across who revere Nick Saban as the 2nd coming. Your expectations make more sense. My hat's off to you.

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:44:54 -0000

I knew we couldn't hold a conversation about NCAA penalties without Barry Switzer's name being mentioned. Not to say he was dirty or anything, just because...

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

"BC" — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:39:42 -0000

haha. why do you think Nick Saban OVERSIGNED our class last year???
because he was planning on losing some commits.
and like it or not mr. TE, but we got the most athletic class in the NATION last year. thats a fact. and i think we'll see around 5 of those guys start for us next year.
it seems like you're just upset because lowly Miles couldn't manage to land a top 10 class after winning the NC. thats just piss-poor recruiting.
we got a better class just for hiring Nick Saban (#10 in the country in 2007)

i mean you can say recruiting doesn't matter, but a study was done to find out whether Rivals.com ratings mattered, and the recruiting ratings were found to have a direct correlation to on-field success. Of course you must have a great coach to win on the field but i think we have that covered.
he's not like miles who will lose at least 2 games every season, even with the most talented team in the country.

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

Lennie Collins — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:34:13 -0000

SoonerMinister...good webpage. I am surprised you gave Texas that much of a chance. Oklahoma will preform a Red River Beatdown 52-17. Oklahoma by 35 points, easily!

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

Lennie Collins — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:05:45 -0000

1Tomcat what certain coach? I have never and will never defend any coach if he is in the wrong. You self righteous Texas fans I have stated in the past is the ones who think your programs is always been clean. I have asked for facts about Barry Switzer's guilt and you Texas fans havn't produced any just opinions. I actually meet a guy who play football and was friends with Eric Dickerson and he told me that Texas gave/offered Eric Dickerson gifts to come there. He has no cause to lie in my opinion.

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

OU_Ron — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:01:07 -0000

Good to see another Sooner Fan on here, don't be a stranger.....

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

SoonerMinister — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:32:18 -0000

Even if the penalties don't hurt the teams win/loss-wise, they probably hurt quite a bit on the recruiting front.

Anyone looking to discuss Big12 penalties should head to bigxiiboards.com for team specific forums.

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

-TE- — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:53:04 -0000

LOL...Two of your kids have already signed major league contracts and will NEVER SEE THE FIELD OF BRYANT DENNY STADIUM.

Another FOUR of your players you signed are in deep academic doo-doo with the NCAA Clearinghouse, at least one of which is trying to explain away an extraordinary jump in ACT test score by claiming he is "Learning Disabled" and the new "unlimited" test time provision he was awarded by the LD disorder allowed him to improve his score 5+ points...

That #1 recruiting class ain't gonna be nowhere near #1 after you factor the attrition in. But, enjoy that "Mack Brown National Championship". Remember...You win actual National Championships in January in BCS Bowls...The ones that Rivals hands out are somewhat akin to that line from Top Gun by Val Kilmer...

"The Trophy for 2nd place is in the Ladies' Room"

'Bout time for you to take a powder and go admire it, by now, right BC?

Re: Study finds harmless NCAA penalties are harmless

-TE- — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:49:12 -0000

Well, I'm glad you asked...

Because you're trying to promote education and scholarly work and achievement, which could pay dividends in your local area if the best & brightest of bulbs sticks around after graduation to start a career, family, and develop the community. It's a civic minded, philantrhopic end.

In collegiate athletics, it's all about amateur competition...on a level playing field...

I don't like schools like Catholic High or Parkview Baptist in Baton Rouge to participate against schools that are in the public system and "can't recruit". They're not playing on the same field...

If Arkansas or Oregon were allowed to use booster money to attract recruits, they'd compete for National Titles year in and year out...That's not fair to a school like LSU who may not have a Walton Family or a Phil Knight...

The Yankees win in pro sports because they throw so much money around...Same in the NFL...Though Oakland is a notable exception (they throw the benji's, but they have Al Davis' Joe Paterno-like aged and out of touch self doing the throwing)...

Collegiate athletics is the highest level of amateur athletic competition in our nation...