TCU beat the Sooners last game at home, I'm taking Oklahoma in the pick em contest, not that I think TCU can't keep it close, they have a good defense, but Stoops will poor it on if he can, I expect to see Bradford in the game from start to finish........lightning won't strike again for TCU
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
B/S Ron face it Dude TCU has beat OU 3 outs the last 4 meetings. Frogs will probably whup OU- I can't wait. Ha Ha Baylor will probably whup yall too Hookem-Horns Sicem-Bearrs Go Frogs
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
At least one Texas team can get the job done.
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Good one Ben LOL
Sooner_doc
· 1 year ago
Go Frogs? Hookem? Dude are you serious? Stephen F. Austin and SMU. Wow those were really tough. As for your beloved Horns. Flordia Atlantic? I didnt even know they had a football team. By the way that was a solid win against UTEP. Come on dude. UT isnt even near OU. Players leave for OU because they want to play for the best. By the way, what happened last year around October? Oh yeah and the year before? Dont get all mad at Ron its not his fault you picked the wrong team. BOOMER SOONER BABY!!!!
cor
· 1 year ago
cincinnati is a very good team, its just ou are dirt bags and injured injured uc's qb and they were throwing the ball with one minute to go to score more.
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Not just injured, but...injured injured.........maybe he shouldn't run with the ball.....??
cor
· 1 year ago
you sacked him then you had a player twisting his foot, but nice try
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
I didn't sack him, it was one of my teammates, I'll try to do better next time though..... Here's the video.......
"The only battle of the FBS unbeatens this week (unless you count Tulsa vs Central Arkansas.)"
...or Alabama at Georgia.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Oops, somehow I missed that one...
Not sure how, but thank you.
Mars
· 1 year ago
'Bama-Georgia? We're talking REAL football this week. Back to TCU-OU. (wink)
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
There is no doubt that this game is important to both programs. OU finnaly faces a decent opponent. TCU usually beats OU and I'll be pullin for the Frogs to whup OU no doubt. The small independent school in Ft. Worth beats the school that has some of the best Texas atheletes that money can buy. Look I cant help it that Oklahoma sux thats just the way it is. OU- Sux always has and always will. Rinky diny state that stole land from the indians and their pride has been developed into a football comprised of mostley Texas atheleles, who probably chose OU over UT because they would not get much playing time at UT. At OU these traders can play first string and have no character or loality and are only out for their own best personal intrest. Look OU Sux I cant help it, thats just the way it is always overated and picked to win they usually blow their bowl games -fact They will not survive the Red River Shootout vs Texas Hookem-Horns
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
1Tomcat...I knew it wouldn't be long before you start sounding like a classic clown! You are who I thought you were! Oklahoma non-conference schedule in my opinion is not that challenging BUT what decent opponents have Texas faced? The Razorbacks? They just gave up almost a half hun'red to Alabama. Alabama has not scored that many points in a long while. It's amazing when Major Applewhite leaves the Alabama offense comes to life! The Texas Longhorns 2008 non-conference schedule is like a part of your body when you get around the opposite sex...SOFT! Oklahoma stole land from the Indians? I believe India still have the Indians living in it! Indians never had land in the USA...Native Americans did. I know you were not aware of this because you did not attend school. Home schooling does have some disadvantages! Oklahoma's two great players Sam Bradford and DeMarco Murray was born where? Look it up THEN talk! The recruits probably chose Oklahoma over Texas because they want to graduate. Oklahoma prepares their football players how to deal with life outside of football. I have yet to hear of any former Sooners that got hurt in the NFL thinking of SUICIDE. I have never seen a former Sooner Heisman Winner dress up in "drag"! I believe Cedric Benson got released by the Chicago Bears for what? Haven't happen to any Sooners in the NFL. I believe Cedric Benson stated he would rather win the Heisman than beat Oklahoma...well neither happen for him! Oklahoma has won 7, that's 7 National Titles to Texas' 4. They have won their 5th, that's FIF Big 12 Conference Title to Texas' 2! If I am not mistaken Texas could not even outbid SMU for Eric Dickerson. Texas could not even violate right! 1Tomcat...Texas and your lovelife have 1 thing in commom...they are both a laugh! Enjoy the Arkansas victory because I don't think we will see you post until after Texas beats Baylor! Oklahoma is gonna stomp all over Texas...Again! Book 'em Hornz! Crimson & Cream True!
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Thanks Lennie Man I'm laughin so hard that I almost fell oputa my chair- heck my ribs are hurtin- Thanks man I knew I could count on you-This is some of the funniest stuff I've ever read. You will come down outa the clouds soon enough when those Frogs & Horns put a whupin on those Sooners-who happen to have more than Washington on their schedule.BU will probably whup them too- then they can go back way up north where they belong- so they can rip off nutt-sacks and ride around in little wagons Adios your friend Tomcat Hookem-Horns-America's team
Anonymous IV
· 1 year ago
It is nice to once again read the OU & UT emotions. Even as a Cal fan I enjoy reading the passion from some of the posters. You make me laugh.
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
Let this Rio guy know that I am making humor towards you. He does not know I really don't care if Oklahoma win or lose...I value people and life more!
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Oklahoma opened at -18.0 and is staying tough between 17.5/18 point "chalk". What, is this a mystery game or something? TCU is usually a pretty good bet against any kind of inferior opponent. This is not one of them. If I actually decided to use this game - I'd take Oklahoma and give up the points. Oklahoma 41 TCU 21. No contest.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Come on Tommie T dont you realize that TCU dominates OU and now OU has to try to save face against a far superior opponent like TCU. OU might win and those rectal rangers can rejoice until they come into The Cotton Bowl and receive their as- whuping Hookem-Horns OU-Sux
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Tomcat:
Ok, I realise that TCU has sprung a few wins over Oklahoma in the last few years. TCU is probably pretty good this year also. But, I just don't think that this is gonna be the Frogs year to beat Oklahoma. I might see my way for the Horns to do it though.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Hey Tommie T I know its early in the season, but check this out NCAA right now Total defense #1 TCU #10 OU turnover margin #2 TCU 5 fm 8 ints #33 OU Rushing offense #12 TCU 4.83 avg 18 TD's #18 OU 4.77 avg 10 TD's The Frogs will probably give OU a better game than some other opponents and they have dominated OU over the last decade winning 3 outa 4 Go Frogs
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Tomcat:
As much of a stat guy as I am - sometimes you got to look past that. TCU has not faced the kinda interior linemen that they will be facing this Saturday. I know you like TCU and so do I. I bet money on TCU all the time and usually win with that team. But, as hard as I have been baggin' on Oklahoma - they are a very explosive team on offense. That QB is the real deal. TCU does not have this kinda QB running their team. Now, when you want to go and talk Texas - you'll get a more favorable response from me. But, I cannot see TCU beating this team in this year. I can see TCU taking down Utah no problem. I'm not so sure that they can beat BYU. I'm thinking that TCU ends up at 10-2 with losses to Oklahoma and BYU. This certainly makes them a very fine team. But, it's gonna take Texas or Missouri or Texas Tech to take Oklahoma down this year.
OU_Fan
· 1 year ago
Tomcat, you are absolutely insane. This is not 2005. Rhett Bomar is not taking the snaps for his first time. This years OU squad is much better than the 2005 OU squad. This OU team has a monster offensive line. Good, experienced receivers. The best TE in the nation in my opinion. 2 running backs that could start for any other team in college football. An experienced defensive line, despite losing DeMarcus Granger. Special teams play is questionable, but OU is not going to lose this game. Sorry. The Sooners are going to beat TCU by at least 21 poinits. At least. Sorry Tomcat. BOOMER!
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
Pay 1Tomcat no mind. His lovelife is like his college football team.....WEAK!
CC Machine
· 1 year ago
Hey Tomcat,
What was the score of last year's RRS?
Ray in norman
· 1 year ago
Wow last time I checked the best QBs at ou have came form oklahoma not tex-ass sorry longhorn but who beat who last year? as a matter of fact who has beaten who more the last ten years? poor poor texas fans.
OU_Fan
· 1 year ago
Tomcat, did I forget to mention that Sam Bradford is taking the snaps? You know, the sophmore that is currently ranked 2nd in the QB ratings department. Speaking of QB ratings, Colt McCoy was ranked 3rd. This years OU/Texas is literally going to be a shootout. Literally. Heres to the Sooners leaving Dallas with the victory. BOOMER!
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
OU Fan NCAA scoring #1 OU 54.67 avg points per game #6 UT 48.67 avg points per game passing efficiency
#2 Texas 10.16 yds avg 12 TD's 1 INT #3 OU 10.17 yds avg 13 TD's 3 INT total offense #4 OU 23 td's 556 yd avg #9 UT 20 td's 502 yd avg Its really purty cool- This years game will be a great one Yall better focus on the Frogs because Steven Coleman has 3 int's and Pattersons team will give yall a game. BTW That wasnt really me last night, it was my friend Jim Beam Go Frogs- dang I need a purple shirt
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Tomcat, All you babble BS was wasted on this post ....LOL
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Tomcat:
Yeah, hold on hoss! Your boyz are gonna get their shot. It's not gonna be TCU that does it. Oklahoma is a very good team no matter how much you hate them. Maybe this will be the Longhorns year. Just hope for that. The Frogs are not going to answer your prayers. Besides, as a Horn, you want Oklahoma to finish out at 11-1 and one game behind the Horns in the South. That way, Texas will climb the ladder much higher, in the BCS standings. You ought to be rootin' for the Sooners. But, I know that you can't. It's some kinda Texas thing that the rest of us can't get.
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
1Tomcat knows Texas gone get beat by Oklahoma! That's why that silly cat always sayin' Sic 'em Bears, Gig 'em Aggies. Aggies gigged Longhorns two years in a row! Claw 'em Wildcats. Wildcats clawed Longhorns two years in a row also! Can someone say quite Tomcat?
cftt
· 1 year ago
This is a tough, tough game for TCU. I have been covering them all year, and I think this TCU team is as good as the 2005 team. But, as someone mentioned, this is a much, much better Oklahoma team than the 2005 team on opening weekend. TCU's defense this year seems to be one of the best they have ever had. If TCU is some how able to hold OU to 17 points are less, they will probably win the game. Check out this stat. TCU is 45-0 under Gary Patterson when holding opponents to 17 points or less. This is a great opportunity for the Frogs.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
The problem is Oklahoma will likely score 24-30 points. That is still managable by TCU.
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Not this time..
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Tomcat, you had to get up early for this fishing trip, see you snagged a few, TCU and Baylor are just warm up games before OU kicks the shit out of Texas with that Oklahoma QB directing all those fine young Texas recruits.............keep cheering for all those Texas teams, one of these day's you might find one that can actually play football.. Go Sooners.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Ya Ron you gotta wet your hook, to catch one and I baited mine with some stink bait, you know the real slimy stuff. Texas has 10 Div1-A football programs and most folks know that more than one of them can play football like Texas Tech-remember last year? Texas has won 2 outa 3 against OU and TCU has won 3 outa 4. Texas faces Ark & Colo prior to the RRS game Yall have two Texas teams TCU and BU both these teams will give yall a better game than the others that the Sooners have faced and this looks like another exciting year in CFB Go Frogs Sicem-Bears Hookem-Horns
cdogg
· 1 year ago
Oklahoma-34 TCU-27
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Tomcat, see you hooked a few, TCU and Baylor are just warm up games before OU kicks the shit out of UTerus.......
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Yes just a warm up game, nothing you can't handle, barely more than a scrimmage...
Thats what I like to hear.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Hey Ben isn't that what they said up at Boulder ?
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Yea Ben, that's what TC and I do, talk s%#t about our teams, but since you like to hear it, I'll be glad to say it again for you, if you like !!
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Yep Ben, without a doubt, a warm up...
badgerballer
· 1 year ago
I'm in constant amazement that programs (like TCU), are able to even stay in the same stadium as the big boyz (like Oklahoma), let alone be competitive. It really blows my mind. I mean, what does Wake Forrest have - something like 7,000 total student population? Its a waste of time to even send an application to Stanford or Duke if your grade point average coming out of highschool is under 3.6. Granted, the athletes may get a bit of extra 'credit' upon entrance application review time, but still, how many 6'5, 275 lb., run a sub-5.0 40, AND carry a 3.5 GPA guys are there?? Take the last part (about a 3.5 GPA) out and the Oklahomas, Ohio States, Floridas & Clemsons of the world are 3-deep at every position with guys like that. I have no clue how some of these schools do it.
Mars
· 1 year ago
This coming from a Wisconsin fan. Give me a break. Boise freaking State has been 10x the program the past 6 years that Wiscy has been. The Big Ten is garbage, and has been for a while now. Ooh, look at us, we beat Michigan! LOL. Teams like Indiana are ALMOST as good as Ball State. But not quite.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
I like a conference where the worst team (SDSU) has 19 players in the NFL. Ironically this is the most for any team in the conference.
badgerballer
· 1 year ago
It always fascinates me how there are people who come here seemingly just LOOKING to start an argument. Good grief, man. The only person talking about the superiority of the Big Ten is you! I'm attempting to heap *praise* on the Boise State's of the world, not criticism. I think its awesome that Boise and Fresno and TCU and smaller schools can compete with the big boys, like Wisconsin, with a student body of 40,000. That's my point!
Relax. Go kick your dog, holler at your wife, or something. There's no foul or offense here. Stop looking for a fight and let's keep the tone civil around here.
*sheesh*
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
badgerballer:
Don't get too upset. Your takin' flak from a clown who's team finally beat somebody (they were down of course). Oh, he'll probably pop back off about how Utah beat So Cal in 01' 10-6 (while we were down). Utah is a great team - don't you know? They beat a Michigan team that is in total transition while they have a senior QB. By season's end - I really doubt if they would be able to beat Michigan again. And, If McGuffie (true freshman) had been playin' in that 1st game - Utah goes home with their asses in their hands. It's all par for the course. Utah will get blasted by TCU and BYU and you'll never see the guy on here for five more years - until Utah pulls another great surprise. Then he'll come back on here and shoot his freakin' mouth off about how great the MWC is. Yes, it's fascinating. Only difference between Utah and any other good teams - is that good teams can beat anybody regardless of if they are down or not. I really don't think that Utah could ever compete with Wisconsin in a Bowl game. Sadly, they'll never be good enough to get the opportunity. They'll probably play Troy State in the New Orleans Bowl - while you guys are playing USC in the Rose Bowl or Auburn in the Capitol One Bowl at the very minimum. The guys probably about 5'4 and a buck twenty soak and wet. Drives one of them Toyota trucks that sits up about eight feet off the ground. Needs a hook and ladder just to climb up into the cockpit. You know the guy.....
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
LMAO, Barney Fife type huh..........
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
1st, I am not going anywhere.
2nd Mars is a BYU fan. He is commenting that the Big 10 claims that they are good, like Wisconsin, becasue they beat Michigan are over stated. Who, after all is Michigan? They are not even the best team Utah has played this year.
A Utah school will be in the Fiesta Bowl, unless TCU can pull out the conference title. This will be a good game. The other Utah school will be in Las Vegas beating the #4 PAC 10 team into the ground. If TCU gets into one of those then the second Utah school will be in the Poinsettia Bowl pounding the #5 PAC 10 team into the ground. TCU will not go to the Poinsettia Bowl, Air Force could get a chance to pound the #5 PAC 10 team into the ground.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Ben:
My bad. Don't know why my head clicked onto Utah. Of course, the Cougar avatar, is for BYU. Okay, we'll just substitute Michigan for UCLA. Although, I do think that BYU is gonna be pretty good this year and possibly go unbeaten. They very well might be in a BCS bowl game. But, there is no reason for MWC people to start baggin' on the Big 10 - that is completely ridiculous. Granted, your conference is certainly doing great this year (so far), but it's way too early to start countin' cue for anything. After all, the "Big Boy Ball", all happens at the end of the year - not in the beginning.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Like last year when the MWC won the Challenge cup for their 4-1 Bowl record?
When was the last time they had a losing Bowl Record? I actually think it was 2004.
badgerballer
· 1 year ago
lol.
For the record, my above post was not directed at Ben P. , but at Mars. Opinions are what makes this fun. If you can back it up with facts, all the better. If his opinion is that Boise has been 10x the program Wisc is for the past 10 years, and the Big Ten is garbage - fine. Although 4 consecutive New Year's Day bowls (one of only 3 schools in the country that can make such a boast) & a head coach who has NEVER lost a home game speak differently. I wasn't attempting to challenge him on his opinion. Just that his reaction to my initial observation - that its amazing Boise can even compete in the first place - as way too harsh.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
As our two comments are equally indented it should be understood that both are comments to Mars.
If you had responded to my comment it would have another indent.
NMLSooner
· 1 year ago
Sam Bradford,QB, Oklahoma City; Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma City; Jermaine Gresham, TE, Ardmore, OK; Ryan Broyles, WR, Norman; Dominique Franks, DB, Tulsa. Are you saying these guys would not start at Texas? I think they all would. Yes, we have players from other states, especially Texas. That might have something to do with the fact that Texas has the second largest population base of the 50 states. Maybe, just maybe.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Yes Thanks man good post, you have to understand that sometimes I cast my line in the current and fish on bottom. Your right in fact this year Oklahoma recruited 11 players from Texas and 3 from Oklahoma. Oklahoma State had 14 from Texas and 3 from Oklahoma Missouri 12 from Tex and 8 from Missu N Texas 19 outa 19 100 % Texas A&M 22 outa 23 95.7% Texas 19 outa 20 95 % Baylor 17 outa 18 94.4 % Houston 17 outa 19 89.5 %
Div 1-A recruits 2008 1. Texas 370 2. Florida 358 3. California 346 4. Georgia 161 5. Ohio 145 6. Alabama 94 7. Louisiana 81 8. Mississippi 78 9. Pennsylvania 76 10. Illinois 62 11. Michigan 59 12. Virginia 57
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Tomcat:
Where did you come up with this? You been sittin' there drinkin' Jim Beam all night long, counting up every player from Scout and Rivals, and figuring the breakdown on every state - just to get this in? My hats off to you. I don't even have that much determination to prove a point. You got me beat. I am surprised that Georgia would be # 4 - that is very interesting. I would have thought that it would be Ohio. Good information though. Probably ought to lay off the sauce and get some sleep for a couple of daze though.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Tommie Dave Campbell's 2008 Texas Football, its the football bible. www.texasfootball.com It has alot of information, not only Div-1A but also Div11 and high school, schedules, rosters etc etc. Adios Tomcat P.S. I lied- no Jim Beam- can't afford the good stuff- Canadian mist-pretty rough but with 7-up tolerable- I was celebrating my gains in the stock market.
NMLSooner
· 1 year ago
Do you have numbers on how many kids play football in each state? I would be interested to see that. I imagine Texas is at the top of that list too. Also, simple logic would lead me to believe the larger state with more players because of recruiting practices. Example: I can go on a recruiting trip to Texas or Florida and I would be more likely to see more players in one game than in a rural state. I hope I explained myself well enough. A 3-star from Florida will get seen by more scouts than a 3-star of the same ability in Nevada.
collegefballfan
· 1 year ago
TCU 30-OU 24
NMLSooner
· 1 year ago
make sure to check back after the game. Don't dissappear after it's over.
Cougar_Fan
· 1 year ago
I like this prediction. TCU keeps it close and the second half of the 4th quarter Oklahoma starts to panic that TCU's still in the game, and TCU pulls it out.
Toby
· 1 year ago
If the Frogs are to have any chance at all, they have to do the same 3 things they have done thus far through their 4 games; defensive line in OK's backfield, win turnover margin and control the game clock. Otherwise it will be ugly. Remember Texas last year? TCU up 10 at the half and lost the 3rd and 4th quarters due to losing the game clock control.
lawfamily
· 1 year ago
TCU 28 OU 21
NMLSooner
· 1 year ago
make sure to check back after the game. Don't dissappear after it's over.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
TCU 38 OU 35
NMLSooner: [sic] make sure to check back after the game. Don't dissappear after it's over.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Ben Thanks for starting this thread, this is a purty good one, I've really enjoyed it BTW Where is Bevo-Boy, 40 acres etc. etc. TCU 31 OU 28
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Looks like you're on your own TC, but you're up to it, right LOL
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Thanks Ron We have a guy here in town that sells gear next to the railroad, caps, jerseys etc, etc I've been hounding them for a TCU cap and guess I'll have to get one on-line. Way too much UT & A&M stuff, yes he has OU.LSU and UGA, we bought a couple of BU caps, maybe he can order me a Rice cap to go with my $3.00 sweatshirt, well when a team goes 3-9 the stuff gets cheap. BTW the hot item now is Peterson's Vikings Jeresy, couple of years ago it was Titans #10 go figure. I'll be wearing my BU cap Oct 4th for the Beatdown on the Brazos game-ha ha
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Thank you, I couldn't let the SEC fans have all the fun could I? I mean there is more to football than just one high octane conference.
Mars
· 1 year ago
What gets more high octane than 3-2 barnburners?
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Mars:
Now if you guyz would just quit throwin' that ball all over the place - we might just have those "more interesting" games. Besides, it's just not fair and isn't the right way to play football. What's the big idea anyway? Do you guyz really think that scoring in the 50's every game is more exciting than scoring less than ten? I'll bet the fan base at BYU is dwindling by the droves....
NMLSooner
· 1 year ago
No Problem. I will be here.
NMLSooner
· 1 year ago
No Problem. I will be here.
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
This game is televised nationally right? It has to be. FWIW, I like the Sooners to win but not cover. That's my best "eyes-closed, pin the tail on the pinata" guess.....or something like that.
Sorry I don't know how to make that lil squiggly over the "n" in pin-ya-ta. Or bold type, italics and any of the other tricks some of you guys know...lol.
Thx Ben. Hey, while I got you here (and completely off topic, but) what's the deal with the points being added in the Pick 'Em thread? I posted a question about it in that thread but haven't gotten a response.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
Some more of those tricks I was talking about, huh? LOL. Link me to where I can pick up on some of those.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
How good are you at HTML? It turns out you can add inline styles to an A tag, or any other tag that disqus allows. This is how I do my color hack.
It would be better if Disqus allowed a span tag...
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
Thx for the link Ben. Looks like I've got some studying to do...lol.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
GeauxTigers I'm not sure if its nationally or not, went to the gofrogs website and it said FSN network 1800 hrs CDT. Probably getting a better or wider audience than the other game they have during the same time between a couple of PAC10 teams- OU is ranked high and their opponent is a Texas team- should be veiwable in your area-or ought to be. Larger fan base etc. etc. The Ark vs UT game is an early game 1420 CDT so maybe we can watch those purpl Frogs. BTW I would love to see a LSU vs UT game, those two would be a great matchup Good luck this week Geaux Frogs beat the H-outa OU Hookem Horns send Bobby and the Nuttless Hogs packing
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
Thx Tomcat. Ben mentioned the same thing. I have Direct TV and catch alot of the Fox Sports Networks, but not all of them. I'm hoping I can tune in.
And I agree, UT vs. LSU would be a killer game. We still owe you guys one after that Cotton Bowl loss you handed to us back when. I seem to remember a certain receiver named Williams lighting us up for a buck 50.....but we did lead at the half..lol. Your Long Horns look great this year. Tell Will Muschamp we said hello too. I really like(d) his defenses.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
I'm way off subject now, but I saw one LSU game live in person- years ago Rice Stadium- felt sorry for those Owls cant remember much except dang. We really cant say much at this point in the season and the Horns have a real tough schedule, I dont see any easy wins period, hope you and yours are alright after IKE. Adios Tomcat
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
Thanks for the kinds words and yes, we're alright. For Gustapo we were out of power for a week and a half, a few shingles missing from my house and my vinyl fence got trashed but just high winds from Ike. Now the people in the lower part of Lafourche Parish got some serious flooding. My step brother had 7ft of water in his house but that's nothing compared to what the Galveston folks are going through. Alot of them came home to a concrete slab. God Bless 'Em.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
Mars
· 1 year ago
Oklahoma 34 TCU 20
Frogs are good enough to win, sure, but Sooners are good enough to lose to USC eventually.
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
You were wrong all the way around, LMAO
Mars
· 1 year ago
What crack are you smoking? I was right on.
TCU would have a better team if they also paid their players with free vehicles and for non-work at car washes.
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
What part of your post was " right on " Looks like you're the one smoking crack, you've just made an Idiot out of yourself twice, want to try for a third.......
Josh
· 1 year ago
My question is this? If TCU wins and then wins out their schedule... Should they be considered for a national title game? They face OU, BYU,Utah and Air Force, all ranked except for AF. Whats the thought? I say yes because USC has a cake walk compared to that.
Kevin @ Fanblogs
· 1 year ago
**IF** TCU wins (and that's a huge if) and goes undefeated, then I think you have the makings of a BCS game. Not the national championship, but a BCS game, for sure.
Hey, I **love** the Frogs & Patterson. I've been near & dear with TCU for several years, but... even if they win out, they do not get in over an undefeated BCS team.
Cougar_Fan
· 1 year ago
I think you're wrong. The MWC is better than the PAC 10 this year, the MWC would have just a good an argument to put TCU or BYU or Utah in the national championship as USC. In fact their schedules would be tougher than any team from the ACC, Big East, and probably Big 10 (although Big 10 is debatable). Of course they would need help from either the Big 12 or SEC to open a spot. This is why if TCU wins this game it will probably be the biggest win in MWC history, so far. Go frogs!!
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
TCU sits at #21 in the unofficial BCS standings. A win would bump them up to somewhere between Texas Tech and Ohio State. The only MWC team with a chance at the title is an undefeated BYU.
Even for this to happen BYU needs help. Georgia, Florida, LSU and Oklahoma would likely remain ahead of them even with two losses. Wisconsin, Penn State, Alabama, Auburn, Missouri and Texas could remain ahead of them with a single loss between now and the end of the season. I got 12 other teams, including USC, that could be ahead of them if they win out. Altogther I got 22 teams, 21 of which need to lose at least 33 games to be eliminated. Fortunately for BYU those teams play each other 49 times.
I WILL start the BCS busting threads next week after the non conference dust is settled. Several of those teams should be knocked out this week making the analysis more concise.
The top MWC team will be in the BCS this year, but will it be BYU, Utah or TCU? Boise State could slip into the BCS if the MWC teams all knock each other out.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Josh:
Was USC on TCU's schedule? I didn't think so. Do you think that TCU could really beat USC? If your answer is yes (try real hard to be honest) - then I suppose so. My guess (and I don't know too much), is that there is gonna be some executive producer somewhere in the world, who really isn't gonna agree with you. And, I really don't think he's gonna care too much about how good TCU is anyway, because he knows that nobody is even gonna watch the game if TCU is in it. Does that make any sense to you?
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
If Stanford could why not the TCU? If Oregon State could...why again not the TCU? Tommy Trojan you post has though Southern California CANNOT be beaten!
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Lennie:
We're not gonna know if So Cal can be beaten for awhile. But, we are gonna know that TCU can after this weekend. That is my point.
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
The Effeminate Warriors can lose tonight to the Wood Chopping Rodents!
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Lennie, now that's funny, I don't care who you are.....
NMLSooner
· 1 year ago
Even if they can stop OU, how are they going to score? OU 49 TCU 10
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
It's not like ya'll have an SEC caliber defense...
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
If the score is 49-10, will they have a SEC caliber defense then ??
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Do we have that type of defense now ?????
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Nice prediction....
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Hate to hurt anybody's feelings....but:
Since 1999 thru 2007 the MWC record vs "The Big Six":
against the ACC (7-9) against the Big East (3-5) against the Big 12 (17-30) against the SEC (6-11) against the Big 10 (9-18) against the Pac 10 (24-46)
That's 66-119 against the other Top Conferences. Oh, I didn't forget that MWC schools have been leading the nation in recruiting for the last several years, therefore everything is different this year. But, really, it probably is about time that they won a few games. There still seems quite a ways to go until they get anywhere near .500 though. Sorry, just could not resist, lest anyone wants to buy into this crap.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Good point. Unfortunately not everyone gets to start at the top each year.
In 1999 the MWC set itself apart to become a strong conference. It raised itself above C-USA in the intervening decade and has its sights set higher. It would be hard to argue they are not headed in the right direction. Commitments to building state of the art facilities as most of these schools and to schedule games against members of the top conferences has led to the success of the league.
We have a tremendous upside and are experiencing the excitement of that this year. It sure beats having the national championship to lose at the start of every year.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Ben:
The MWC is building three outstanding programs in BYU, Utah and TCU. Those three are real teams that could probably be competitive with anybody on any given day. Air Force will never get quite there, as afterall, they are Air Force. They will have some pretty decent teams - but they will never be competitive with "the Big Boyz". Wyoming, Colorado State, San Diego State, UNLV and New Mexico will never break into the Top Tier of teams. In fact, four of those programs are very dreadful and rate as some of the very worst teams, year in and year out. There is competition of the top five schools, but each team in the league, gets four automatic wins each year. The bottom of the conference is really bad. And, I mean that the Stanford's, Washington's, Mississippi's, Baylor's and Indiana's would just kill these teams. I'm saying that the worst teams in the BCS conferences would easily handle the worst teams in the MWC. This is what makes the conference somewhat weaker. The MWC is just below the BCS conferences though, and I believe that they are making great strides with those top three schools, but they are still aways off from the BCS conferences. It does not mean that a really good team could not emerge from this conference. I am not convinced that BYU could be left out of consideration for a shot at a National Championship this year. If they win out in the fashion that they are playing right now - then they would be serious contenders. I don't think you could just sweep that one under the rug. I think that this BYU team would be much better than last years Hawaii team was. And, of course, we had a very good Utah team a few years back which was probably as good as any team in the country. That was a tough year for them. I think it was 04' and both USC and Oklahoma were unbeaten - along with Auburn. Am I mistaken? That could have been your shot and that could happen again. Seriously, I would not shoot down an unbeaten MWC team this year, just because they played in a weaker conference. They should certainly rate serious discussion.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
The MWC currently has three programs that are competitive nationally and Air Force who can upset anyone who is not disciplined enough to give them due respect.
New Mexico and Wyoming have been playing to the level of Air Force and would win a conference game or two in any conference. UNLV appears to have made the jump up to this level as well.
SDSU has been disappointments for what they have available to them. 19 players in the NFL and all they have to show for it is that when the MWC broke away from the WAC they took them over Fresno State. TV Markets are not everything, what good is being in a large TV market if no one in that market cares?
CSU was competitive but is in the process of restructuring their program. For a small school this can be a decades long process, give them another 5 years and we will have a better idea the future of this program.
I was convinced last year's BYU could beat last years Hawaii.
The argument that a MWC team should not play because they are a weaker conference just does not hold water this year from the PAC 10. I am reserving the BYU to the NCG analysis for next week. The have a BYE so I don't have to worry about them losing.
Cougar_Fan
· 1 year ago
Simply not true! That statement does not describe the MWC of the last five years! The conference has played competitive against OOC BCS schools for five years, and will continue to do so. Look at population trends, the MWC recruiting pool gets larger and larger each year and these schools will play more like the MWC of 2004-2008 than the MWC of 1998-2003. I'm also still not sure how you can rag on the lower tier MWC teams when they they're beating Arizona (who many considered would be a surprisingly good team in the PAC 10) and Arizona State (who was top of the conference) Do you want us to send SDSU to Wazzou? we will and i'd put money on SDSU.
Cougar_Fan
· 1 year ago
Hey buddy why don't you look at the past five years!!! The MWC has a winning record against the Big 12, split records against PAC 10, ACC, Big East, 3-4 against SEC!! The reality is that for the past five years the MWC has been hanging with the Big East and ACC, and now this year they're busting out ahead of them and the PAC 10! The MWC started as a mid major but they have played to the level of a BCS conference the past five years.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Cougar_Fan:
Nice post - so I thought I'd take you up on it.
The MWC vs BCS opponents from 2003 thru 2007:
against SEC (3-3) against ACC (4-4) against Big East (2-3) against Big 12 (9-14) against Pac 10 (14-22)
Overall record is 32-46 in the last five years (not counting 2008). I'd say that there has been some overall improvement. I would say that you'll have a ways to go to get up on the Big 12 and Pac 10 conferences. But, it does look certain that the MWC is making great strides. In fact, you may be rivaling the Big East as the sixth best conference, and therefore might have a legitimate beef to be included into the BCS structure. Keep playing well and winning games....
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
So adding the 2008 figures,
19-22 vs PAC 10.
I will have more to say next week, but the preview indicates that the Big East is in more danger of losing BCS status than the MWC has of gaining it.
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
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Kevin @ Fanblogs
· 1 year ago
Did it work?
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Kev, it's posting under the thread, but not on the start up page, if that makes sense, in other words the start page won't refresh
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
Sooners stump Lizards! Oklahoma hangs half a hun'red on Texas Christian. Oklahoma 55 and Texas Christian 17
oklahoma proud
· 1 year ago
Tom yea your a different breed of cat ou has top 5 program in history and you bad mouth them shame on you Bow down to sooner nation and beg forgiveness and we might just bring our conference a nat title therefore making texas look good for being in the big 12 but only if your a good little kitty meow!!!
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
The B-12 already looks good and right now is one tough conference. Look your new on here and I hope you enjoy reading my posts. The RRS game this year ought to be a great one and the winner could very well become the B-12 south Champ however The Red Raiders and Cowboys are also kickin some tail in this league.
Mars
· 1 year ago
OU is only 8 wins away from their next BCS Bowl loss now.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Mars You are delutional, You are predicting 8 more wins for OU Whats up with that? Do you really think they will escape from Waco with a victory? or Dallas?
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
Mars, who is your team? You are talking a lot of junk about Oklahoma! is it jealousy?
OU_Ron
· 1 year ago
Lenny, It's not jealousy, it's stupidity......it's BYU BTW
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
Why he is attacking Oklahoma...I don't know? I don't hate BYU. Oklahoma is #1 and the hate gone continue. Again for all you bloggers that are not Oklahoma fans...Oklahoma is beatable so don't get on here making statements about me I did not post. Some of you might not can read or don't bother to read my posts!
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Thats Okay Lennie BYU has to play TCU and they have somekind of MWC thing going on-guess he was pullin for the Frogs one of their toughest opponents.
All Comments
Frogs will probably whup OU- I can't wait.
Ha Ha Baylor will probably whup yall too
Hookem-Horns
Sicem-Bearrs
Go Frogs
Here's the video.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_IfXi_Hi_I&feat...
...or Alabama at Georgia.
Not sure how, but thank you.
The small independent school in Ft. Worth beats the school that has some of the best Texas atheletes that money can buy. Look I cant help it that Oklahoma sux thats just the way it is.
OU- Sux always has and always will.
Rinky diny state that stole land from the indians and their pride has been developed into a football
comprised of mostley Texas atheleles, who probably chose OU over UT because they would not get much playing time at UT. At OU these traders can play first string and have no character or loality and are only out for their own best personal intrest.
Look OU Sux I cant help it, thats just the way it is
always overated and picked to win they usually blow their bowl games -fact
They will not survive the Red River Shootout vs Texas
Hookem-Horns
Adios your friend Tomcat
Hookem-Horns-America's team
Hookem-Horns
OU-Sux
Ok, I realise that TCU has sprung a few wins over Oklahoma in the last few years. TCU is probably pretty good this year also. But, I just don't think that this is gonna be the Frogs year to beat Oklahoma. I might see my way for the Horns to do it though.
NCAA right now
Total defense
#1 TCU
#10 OU
turnover margin
#2 TCU 5 fm 8 ints
#33 OU
Rushing offense
#12 TCU 4.83 avg 18 TD's
#18 OU 4.77 avg 10 TD's
The Frogs will probably give OU a better game than some other opponents and they have dominated OU over the last decade winning 3 outa 4
Go Frogs
As much of a stat guy as I am - sometimes you got to look past that. TCU has not faced the kinda interior linemen that they will be facing this Saturday. I know you like TCU and so do I. I bet money on TCU all the time and usually win with that team. But, as hard as I have been baggin' on Oklahoma - they are a very explosive team on offense. That QB is the real deal. TCU does not have this kinda QB running their team. Now, when you want to go and talk Texas - you'll get a more favorable response from me. But, I cannot see TCU beating this team in this year. I can see TCU taking down Utah no problem. I'm not so sure that they can beat BYU. I'm thinking that TCU ends up at 10-2 with losses to Oklahoma and BYU. This certainly makes them a very fine team. But, it's gonna take Texas or Missouri or Texas Tech to take Oklahoma down this year.
What was the score of last year's RRS?
NCAA
scoring
#1 OU 54.67 avg points per game
#6 UT 48.67 avg points per game
passing efficiency
#2 Texas 10.16 yds avg 12 TD's 1 INT
#3 OU 10.17 yds avg 13 TD's 3 INT
total offense
#4 OU 23 td's 556 yd avg
#9 UT 20 td's 502 yd avg
Its really purty cool- This years game will be a great one
Yall better focus on the Frogs because Steven Coleman has 3 int's and Pattersons team will give yall a game.
BTW That wasnt really me last night, it was my friend Jim Beam
Go Frogs- dang I need a purple shirt
Yeah, hold on hoss! Your boyz are gonna get their shot. It's not gonna be TCU that does it. Oklahoma is a very good team no matter how much you hate them. Maybe this will be the Longhorns year. Just hope for that. The Frogs are not going to answer your prayers. Besides, as a Horn, you want Oklahoma to finish out at 11-1 and one game behind the Horns in the South. That way, Texas will climb the ladder much higher, in the BCS standings. You ought to be rootin' for the Sooners. But, I know that you can't. It's some kinda Texas thing that the rest of us can't get.
Go Sooners.
Texas has won 2 outa 3 against OU and TCU has won 3 outa 4.
Texas faces Ark & Colo prior to the RRS game
Yall have two Texas teams TCU and BU both these teams will give yall a better game than the others that the Sooners have faced and this looks like another exciting year in CFB
Go Frogs
Sicem-Bears
Hookem-Horns
TCU-27
Thats what I like to hear.
Relax. Go kick your dog, holler at your wife, or something. There's no foul or offense here. Stop looking for a fight and let's keep the tone civil around here.
*sheesh*
Don't get too upset. Your takin' flak from a clown who's team finally beat somebody (they were down of course). Oh, he'll probably pop back off about how Utah beat So Cal in 01' 10-6 (while we were down). Utah is a great team - don't you know? They beat a Michigan team that is in total transition while they have a senior QB. By season's end - I really doubt if they would be able to beat Michigan again. And, If McGuffie (true freshman) had been playin' in that 1st game - Utah goes home with their asses in their hands. It's all par for the course. Utah will get blasted by TCU and BYU and you'll never see the guy on here for five more years - until Utah pulls another great surprise. Then he'll come back on here and shoot his freakin' mouth off about how great the MWC is. Yes, it's fascinating. Only difference between Utah and any other good teams - is that good teams can beat anybody regardless of if they are down or not. I really don't think that Utah could ever compete with Wisconsin in a Bowl game. Sadly, they'll never be good enough to get the opportunity. They'll probably play Troy State in the New Orleans Bowl - while you guys are playing USC in the Rose Bowl or Auburn in the Capitol One Bowl at the very minimum. The guys probably about 5'4 and a buck twenty soak and wet. Drives one of them Toyota trucks that sits up about eight feet off the ground. Needs a hook and ladder just to climb up into the cockpit. You know the guy.....
2nd Mars is a BYU fan. He is commenting that the Big 10 claims that they are good, like Wisconsin, becasue they beat Michigan are over stated. Who, after all is Michigan? They are not even the best team Utah has played this year.
A Utah school will be in the Fiesta Bowl, unless TCU can pull out the conference title. This will be a good game. The other Utah school will be in Las Vegas beating the #4 PAC 10 team into the ground. If TCU gets into one of those then the second Utah school will be in the Poinsettia Bowl pounding the #5 PAC 10 team into the ground. TCU will not go to the Poinsettia Bowl, Air Force could get a chance to pound the #5 PAC 10 team into the ground.
My bad. Don't know why my head clicked onto Utah. Of course, the Cougar avatar, is for BYU. Okay, we'll just substitute Michigan for UCLA. Although, I do think that BYU is gonna be pretty good this year and possibly go unbeaten. They very well might be in a BCS bowl game. But, there is no reason for MWC people to start baggin' on the Big 10 - that is completely ridiculous. Granted, your conference is certainly doing great this year (so far), but it's way too early to start countin' cue for anything. After all, the "Big Boy Ball", all happens at the end of the year - not in the beginning.
When was the last time they had a losing Bowl Record? I actually think it was 2004.
For the record, my above post was not directed at Ben P. , but at Mars. Opinions are what makes this fun. If you can back it up with facts, all the better. If his opinion is that Boise has been 10x the program Wisc is for the past 10 years, and the Big Ten is garbage - fine. Although 4 consecutive New Year's Day bowls (one of only 3 schools in the country that can make such a boast) & a head coach who has NEVER lost a home game speak differently. I wasn't attempting to challenge him on his opinion. Just that his reaction to my initial observation - that its amazing Boise can even compete in the first place - as way too harsh.
If you had responded to my comment it would have another indent.
Your right in fact this year Oklahoma recruited 11 players from Texas and 3 from Oklahoma.
Oklahoma State had 14 from Texas and 3 from Oklahoma
Missouri 12 from Tex and 8 from Missu
N Texas 19 outa 19 100 %
Texas A&M 22 outa 23 95.7%
Texas 19 outa 20 95 %
Baylor 17 outa 18 94.4 %
Houston 17 outa 19 89.5 %
Div 1-A recruits 2008
1. Texas 370
2. Florida 358
3. California 346
4. Georgia 161
5. Ohio 145
6. Alabama 94
7. Louisiana 81
8. Mississippi 78
9. Pennsylvania 76
10. Illinois 62
11. Michigan 59
12. Virginia 57
Where did you come up with this? You been sittin' there drinkin' Jim Beam all night long, counting up every player from Scout and Rivals, and figuring the breakdown on every state - just to get this in? My hats off to you. I don't even have that much determination to prove a point. You got me beat. I am surprised that Georgia would be # 4 - that is very interesting. I would have thought that it would be Ohio. Good information though. Probably ought to lay off the sauce and get some sleep for a couple of daze though.
www.texasfootball.com It has alot of information, not only Div-1A but also Div11 and high school, schedules, rosters etc etc.
Adios Tomcat
P.S. I lied- no Jim Beam- can't afford the good stuff- Canadian mist-pretty rough but with 7-up tolerable- I was celebrating my gains in the stock market.
NMLSooner: [sic]
make sure to check back after the game. Don't dissappear after it's over.
BTW Where is Bevo-Boy, 40 acres etc. etc.
TCU 31 OU 28
I'll be wearing my BU cap Oct 4th for the Beatdown on the Brazos game-ha ha
Now if you guyz would just quit throwin' that ball all over the place - we might just have those "more interesting" games. Besides, it's just not fair and isn't the right way to play football. What's the big idea anyway? Do you guyz really think that scoring in the 50's every game is more exciting than scoring less than ten? I'll bet the fan base at BYU is dwindling by the droves....
Sorry I don't know how to make that lil squiggly over the "n" in pin-ya-ta. Or bold type, italics and any of the other tricks some of you guys know...lol.
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
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It would be better if Disqus allowed a span tag...
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
BTW I would love to see a LSU vs UT game, those two would be a great matchup
Good luck this week
Geaux Frogs beat the H-outa OU
Hookem Horns send Bobby and the Nuttless Hogs packing
And I agree, UT vs. LSU would be a killer game. We still owe you guys one after that Cotton Bowl loss you handed to us back when. I seem to remember a certain receiver named Williams lighting us up for a buck 50.....but we did lead at the half..lol. Your Long Horns look great this year. Tell Will Muschamp we said hello too. I really like(d) his defenses.
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
Rice Stadium- felt sorry for those Owls cant remember much except dang.
We really cant say much at this point in the season and the Horns have a real tough schedule, I dont see any easy wins period, hope you and yours are alright after IKE.
Adios Tomcat
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
TCU 20
Frogs are good enough to win, sure, but Sooners are good enough to lose to USC eventually.
TCU would have a better team if they also paid their players with free vehicles and for non-work at car washes.
Hey, I **love** the Frogs & Patterson. I've been near & dear with TCU for several years, but... even if they win out, they do not get in over an undefeated BCS team.
This is why if TCU wins this game it will probably be the biggest win in MWC history, so far. Go frogs!!
Even for this to happen BYU needs help. Georgia, Florida, LSU and Oklahoma would likely remain ahead of them even with two losses. Wisconsin, Penn State, Alabama, Auburn, Missouri and Texas could remain ahead of them with a single loss between now and the end of the season. I got 12 other teams, including USC, that could be ahead of them if they win out. Altogther I got 22 teams, 21 of which need to lose at least 33 games to be eliminated. Fortunately for BYU those teams play each other 49 times.
I WILL start the BCS busting threads next week after the non conference dust is settled. Several of those teams should be knocked out this week making the analysis more concise.
The top MWC team will be in the BCS this year, but will it be BYU, Utah or TCU? Boise State could slip into the BCS if the MWC teams all knock each other out.
Was USC on TCU's schedule? I didn't think so. Do you think that TCU could really beat USC? If your answer is yes (try real hard to be honest) - then I suppose so. My guess (and I don't know too much), is that there is gonna be some executive producer somewhere in the world, who really isn't gonna agree with you. And, I really don't think he's gonna care too much about how good TCU is anyway, because he knows that nobody is even gonna watch the game if TCU is in it. Does that make any sense to you?
We're not gonna know if So Cal can be beaten for awhile. But, we are gonna know that TCU can after this weekend. That is my point.
OU 49
TCU 10
Since 1999 thru 2007 the MWC record vs "The Big Six":
against the ACC (7-9)
against the Big East (3-5)
against the Big 12 (17-30)
against the SEC (6-11)
against the Big 10 (9-18)
against the Pac 10 (24-46)
That's 66-119 against the other Top Conferences. Oh, I didn't forget that MWC schools have been leading the nation in recruiting for the last several years, therefore everything is different this year. But, really, it probably is about time that they won a few games. There still seems quite a ways to go until they get anywhere near .500 though. Sorry, just could not resist, lest anyone wants to buy into this crap.
In 1999 the MWC set itself apart to become a strong conference. It raised itself above C-USA in the intervening decade and has its sights set higher. It would be hard to argue they are not headed in the right direction. Commitments to building state of the art facilities as most of these schools and to schedule games against members of the top conferences has led to the success of the league.
We have a tremendous upside and are experiencing the excitement of that this year. It sure beats having the national championship to lose at the start of every year.
The MWC is building three outstanding programs in BYU, Utah and TCU. Those three are real teams that could probably be competitive with anybody on any given day. Air Force will never get quite there, as afterall, they are Air Force. They will have some pretty decent teams - but they will never be competitive with "the Big Boyz". Wyoming, Colorado State, San Diego State, UNLV and New Mexico will never break into the Top Tier of teams. In fact, four of those programs are very dreadful and rate as some of the very worst teams, year in and year out. There is competition of the top five schools, but each team in the league, gets four automatic wins each year. The bottom of the conference is really bad. And, I mean that the Stanford's, Washington's, Mississippi's, Baylor's and Indiana's would just kill these teams. I'm saying that the worst teams in the BCS conferences would easily handle the worst teams in the MWC. This is what makes the conference somewhat weaker. The MWC is just below the BCS conferences though, and I believe that they are making great strides with those top three schools, but they are still aways off from the BCS conferences. It does not mean that a really good team could not emerge from this conference. I am not convinced that BYU could be left out of consideration for a shot at a National Championship this year. If they win out in the fashion that they are playing right now - then they would be serious contenders. I don't think you could just sweep that one under the rug. I think that this BYU team would be much better than last years Hawaii team was. And, of course, we had a very good Utah team a few years back which was probably as good as any team in the country. That was a tough year for them. I think it was 04' and both USC and Oklahoma were unbeaten - along with Auburn. Am I mistaken? That could have been your shot and that could happen again. Seriously, I would not shoot down an unbeaten MWC team this year, just because they played in a weaker conference. They should certainly rate serious discussion.
New Mexico and Wyoming have been playing to the level of Air Force and would win a conference game or two in any conference. UNLV appears to have made the jump up to this level as well.
SDSU has been disappointments for what they have available to them. 19 players in the NFL and all they have to show for it is that when the MWC broke away from the WAC they took them over Fresno State. TV Markets are not everything, what good is being in a large TV market if no one in that market cares?
CSU was competitive but is in the process of restructuring their program. For a small school this can be a decades long process, give them another 5 years and we will have a better idea the future of this program.
I was convinced last year's BYU could beat last years Hawaii.
The argument that a MWC team should not play because they are a weaker conference just does not hold water this year from the PAC 10. I am reserving the BYU to the NCG analysis for next week. The have a BYE so I don't have to worry about them losing.
I'm also still not sure how you can rag on the lower tier MWC teams when they they're beating Arizona (who many considered would be a surprisingly good team in the PAC 10) and Arizona State (who was top of the conference) Do you want us to send SDSU to Wazzou? we will and i'd put money on SDSU.
Nice post - so I thought I'd take you up on it.
The MWC vs BCS opponents from 2003 thru 2007:
against SEC (3-3)
against ACC (4-4)
against Big East (2-3)
against Big 12 (9-14)
against Pac 10 (14-22)
Overall record is 32-46 in the last five years (not counting 2008). I'd say that there has been some overall improvement. I would say that you'll have a ways to go to get up on the Big 12 and Pac 10 conferences. But, it does look certain that the MWC is making great strides. In fact, you may be rivaling the Big East as the sixth best conference, and therefore might have a legitimate beef to be included into the BCS structure. Keep playing well and winning games....
19-22 vs PAC 10.
I will have more to say next week, but the preview indicates that the Big East is in more danger of losing BCS status than the MWC has of gaining it.
Look your new on here and I hope you enjoy reading my posts.
The RRS game this year ought to be a great one and the winner could very well become the B-12 south Champ however The Red Raiders and Cowboys are also kickin some tail in this league.
Whats up with that? Do you really think they will escape from Waco with a victory? or Dallas?