DISQUS

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

That sounds so dramatic...

I can almost here Don LaFontaine (R.I.P.) doing the voice over for the tagline posthumously in my head...

Regan · 1 year ago

I miss that guy already...

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Me too. RIP.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

(Cue gravel voice) In a world without Don LaFontaine, who will step up and take his place?

Gatorhippy...

Ramblin Gator...

War Eagle Atlanta...

They start Friday at a theater near you...

fosterkeats · 1 year ago

Terry Bowden...

"En a tyme when my Diddy was a poor white trash farmer in West Vahginia, there was a monster who terryized the kuntryside..."

Zac · 1 year ago

Now U kut dat out! It's spozed ta be "Wet Vahgina". geeeez!

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Good opinion piece! Who says that Kevin never blogs any more? Although I may tend to agree with what you said (especially with the court of public opinion), I don't think that you can write them off yet if they lose, especially if we have a season like last years.

Being old school myself, I wouldn't penalize a team too much for a quality loss, but the media's love affair with the Bucs may start to wane if they lose. Since there may not be enough speed bumps for USC the rest of the year, I say 'Go Bucs!'

OxfordAndrew · 1 year ago

I'll be rooting for the Buckeyes for the same reason - I don't see USC losing any other games this year... although there's always Stanford...

Jim · 1 year ago

Yeah because they don't play anybody. However I guarantee they will still loose at least one more game but will only drop a couple of positions in the Polls because of $$$!

Jim · 1 year ago

Yeah because they don't play anybody. However I guarantee they will still loose at least one more game but will only drop a couple of positions in the Polls because of $$$!

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

"...the media's love affair with the Bucs may start to wane if they lose."

Ahhhhhhh.....wha? You're kidding, right? I can't count the number of times I've read or heard "Ohio State and the Big 10(11) doesn't belong in a BCS game ever again." Especially after the last NC game. FYI--the nickname is Bucks. You're talking about Tampa Bay when you use Bucs. :-)

Anyway, I'm in agreement with Kevin that a win or loss will determine what happens to OSU and the Big 10(11)--but it'll be limited to this year. I don't believe this is the beginning of the dark ages for the Big 10(11); I believe they are beginning to hit the bottom and have nowhere to look but up.

As for the game this week, USC will win by at least21. As of today, Chris Wells is listed as doubtful. If he doesn't play, it'll be worse.

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

I would also limit the impact of this game to this season, only. However, I disagree with your assertion that the Big 10 is hitting bottom now. That would be the ACC.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Stop quoting me Tom!!!!! I can't stand the scrutiny!!!!

What I meant by media love is what you see in the polls--AP, specifically. And no, that doesn't mean that they haven't deserved it.

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

LOL! Alrighty, then.

Zac · 1 year ago

Hey, how duz he do dat "bold" type thing heez do'n there?

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

< B >BOLD TEXT HERE < /B > without the spaces around the B and /B

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

Yeah, what Ben said. Plus, you can do italics.

Fancy!! :-)

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

To get a West Virginia theme takes style!

shiguy · 1 year ago

WTF how did you do that! I'm gonna use that for every thing i type EVERYTIME!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

He's not playing...He's out as of Sports Center & Fox Sports & Tressell...He couldn't go last night after practice, and was very sore...

I agree...3 touchdowns, and the OSU defense is humbled for the 3rd time in as many years...

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

Yep. What a difference a day makes. Yesterday, Beanie was quoted as saying something like, "I hope to get 45 carries this Saturday."

So far, all I've heard is doubtful for Saturday. Here's the latest from the Dispatch as of 1:09pm.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

I was listening to SportsCenter this morning around a quarter to noon, and then someone on our site said Fox Sports had independently verified it...

SportsCenter had the Big 10 ESPN Blogger on there who mentioned it...

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

I've checked both ESPN and Fox Sports. Nobody is saying anything more than "doubtful". Tressel himself in his meeting with the media listed him as "doubtful".

Now granted, that means to me he probably will not play, but nobody is saying he's "definitely out", or that there's "no way in hell he'll play."

One thing is for sure--he went to bed last night after telling the coaching staff he'd be ready to get 45 carries and then he woke up this morning with a completely different tune. I don't think anybody is going to know what the hell to expect until Saturday night when the game starts.

Sigh. I'm really not looking forward to seeing them getting their asses kicked on national TV again, but eh...I'm getting kind of used to it now.

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

Beanie will play. But, not for long. I think it unfortunate that Tressel will throw him into this game. I doubt if he makes it out of the 1st quarter. I can see Maualuga, Cushing or Mathews breaking his leg. These people are very mean. Personally, I'd try and save Beanie for the rest of the year. This is a tough call for Tressel.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

I'm beginning to think you're not so innocently ignorant...

Congrats on the win ahead of time, though I wish Pryor was a tad bit older and Tressel a tad bit less conservative and Midwestern...

They'd pound you like Mark Sanchez pounds High School girls...

Rest assured, your time will come...The stars will align, & you'll face team like LSU, or Georgia or Florida...One hopes you'll come back after your precious myth of superiority blows apart like a trailer park subdivision in a tornado...

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

TE (Big Kitty):

Man, I thought that I had kicked you to the curb about a 100 miles ago. Looks like you done grabbed on to the runnin' board and look tore up. I can hear you yappin' outside the window, but I got the music up so high, I can't quite make up what your yappin' about.....

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

Big Kitty:

Clearly, your intellect (did I spell that right?), and keen knowledge of everything under the sun (not to mention that you are afterall Tiger Educated), has clearly made you into "the King of the Cats". Henceforth, you have earned the coveted title of "Big Kitty". From this day forward we shall "all Hail Big Kitty".

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

Ohio State needs to either win or keep it close(repeat of Mich-OSU game in 2006) to even think about getting into the BCS game.

Zac · 1 year ago

I agree with the "...win or keep it close..." While the win would go a long way for OSU & the Big Televen, I seriously doubt the entire season hangs in the balance over this one game, not after what we all witnessed last year. Besides, if OSU & KS repeat as the only 1-loss teams, to whom would you rather see OSU lose, on the road to USC or at home to MI?

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

I think Marko would vote for the latter... just a hunch.

TBone · 1 year ago

oSU and uM will be out of BCS contention this year, they both are losing their strangle hold on the little 11 this year.
They may be a power in the midwest and both have strong recruiting classes, so that means coaching should be reviewed.
In uM's case of RR in AA, the jury is still out. Sweater vest doesn't seem to be up to the level of coaching that his recruiting is.

UofM_Kraut · 1 year ago

The Big Ten is not solely made up of one team. Penn St. looks stronger than people expected and certain could be a second BCS representative. Two one loss Big Ten teams would certainly garner a second look by BCS officials, especially from those two tradition rich schools. I do agree that a decisive loss would add additional pressure to the Big Ten. However, at the end of the day, much of the respect also comes down to how the conferences fair in the bowl games. That's where respect is truly won or lost. A good showing quiets the critics and a poor showing adds deservedly additional pressure/scrutiny.

Zac · 1 year ago

The same can be said for WI, if they keep on winning.

shiguy · 1 year ago

If this was the first year that they went to a NC off of one loss this loss wouldn't knock them out. This year though....ya I don't see it. I know it's a new year and shouldn't be tied to the previous ones but if they lose I really cannot see the pollsters giving them a 3rd try at the NC. If they win they better just pray there is no other unbeated team at the end of the year. If they lose, they better hope that every other team out there is a 2 loss team. If it comes down to it OSU will not go if there is a W-L tie. They've had two shots and been destroyed both times. I have a feeling the voters are probably thinking that saying "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"

grcunning · 1 year ago

OSU has "NO CHANCE" of playing in the BCSCG if they lose...period. USC can lose this game by 30 points and still play in the game. Any other BCS team in the country can lose a game and still be voted in the top 2.
Ohio State will live with the fallout of the last two years until they bury it with perfection. Any slipup and they are done.
And now that Tressel has announce that Beanie probably won't play, this seems less and less likely. They won't just miss his production....He's the guy that the rest of the team looks up to in the huddle. He makes everyone around him better, the true mark of a great player.
The defense had better play lights out. Once again, I had to laugh at Mark May last night. He was saying that USC will put up at least 50 on the Buckeyes...look at what they did to Virginia. If Mr May thinks that he can compare Virginia's rebuilt defense with Ohio State, he'd better get an MRI on his head, he must have a tumor.
If the Beanie-less Buckeyes can't maintain some ball control, the defense will be on the field for a LONG time.

This OSU's national championship. If they lose, they will be playing the PAC-10's second place team in the Rose Bowl. Oh well, worse things have happened.

GO BUCKS!!!!

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Maybe you said it best, GR. OSU may pay for it's last two bowl losses with a big hit from the polls if it can't beat USC this weekend.

Or something like that...

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

I disagree. If OSU can hang in there and lose by less than a field goal w/o Beanie Wells, the Buckeyes will get a lot of credit for that. And with a 100% healthy Beanie Wells, you never know what would happen.

Jim · 1 year ago

What are you guys talking about.... I mean who did USC play last week.... The answer is the same week after week... Nobody!

My predict Ohio State 27-USC 3!

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

Jim,

Great call on this one. And, your absolutely correct, as we didn't play anybody last week. Keep posting your picks - I need the cash.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

"This OSU's national championship. If they lose, they will be playing the PAC-10's second place team in the Rose Bowl. Oh well, worse things have happened."

It is possible that OSU loses then USC loses to, say, Stanford knoking them out of the BSCCG. In this case it is possible that you all could get a rematch in the Rose Bowl, or some other team that wins the PAC 10.

TampaGator · 1 year ago

Where' s the Kleenex?

Come on, Big 10 boys....where the hell's your pride? Talk up some smack--this is positively depressing here. I'm coming along here ready to kick some dirt on your shoes, but when I kick...

...I realize the dirt is fall'n on a coffin that y'all have already jumped into, and are asking the rest of us to just go ahead and bury you!

That's just no fun.

****************************************************
Let me try my hand as Big 10 guy:
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F%&# the Trojans...ain't that what they're used for anyway!

Listen up you sorry a$$ hollywood sissies....

Forget last year--we were rebuilding!

The year before--we just happened to run into probably the best damn football team in CFB history, when in played those Gators...so forget all that--you ain't the '06 GATORS!!! :)

Miami thought their sh#t didn't stink going into the NC game in '02...whence they were introduced to THE VEST!!!!

...and that's what's wait'n for you in LA this Saturday, punks! We're gonna beat you pretty boys like a drum, y'hear!!!

We're gonna' beat the "pretty" right off your pretty little faces...leave you lookin' like you were born in Ohio....or Michigan....

Putrid sissy a$$ punks...


Go BucKs!!


(So, how was I? Y'all thought I was a real live Bucknut there for a second, dincha'?)


GO GATORS!!

WarEagleFan · 1 year ago

Loved how you gave the gators mad props even though you were trying to be a Bucks Fan. But other than that I thought you did pretty good for a imposter.

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

Meh. I've never been the flying spittle, bulging eyeballs, vein pumping in the forehead type. I'll let you SEC fans rule in that department, and I'll just stick to calmly reacting to what I'm seeing on the field. ;-)

Go Bucks!

Zac · 1 year ago

Perhaps a bit robust, but it has an element of Coondog that I find tantalizing to the pallet.

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

I agree with TG. You guys up north are makin' this into some real BS. Using reverse psychology on this blog isn't gonna help you guys on the field. I do not understand why you guys feel more obligated to "be right". Only my wife and "my bitch in Louisiana" have just got to be right all the time. You really ought to be takin' down some names and wantin' to kick that Trojan ass. Man, you guys don't get it. This is your one big chance to clear the entire slate. If you guys can beat "the mighty Men of Troy" - you will have earned eternal allies of every confederate who has not yet been shot. All men left standing would view "The Ohio State" as the saviour of the South. Man, what a wasted opportunity. And, what if the Bucks do win? Is there not one OSU fan left to carry the battle cry? Why don't you all go out and rent "Gladiator" or "Braveheart" and watch it. You have about another day and a half to get your sacks back together. Do not disappoint the paying customers at the Coliseum by walking onto that field whimpering and crying. Those are cash paying customers who want to see you battle for your very lives before they are taken. Cowards are certainly not welcome and their deaths will be extremely unmerciful. DIE LIKE MEN!

grcunning · 1 year ago

F%&# the Trojans...ain't that what they're used for anyway!

Listen up you sorry a$$ hollywood sissies....

Forget last year--we were rebuilding!

grcunning · 1 year ago

I'm trying..

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

LOL! Just isn't natural, is it g? If by some miracle OSU wins this week, then we can stick out our chests a little--but not like that.

Go Bucks!

TampaGator · 1 year ago

YEAH!!!

That's what I'm talk'n bout!!

WOO WHOOO!!!

....oh...cut & pasted huh...well...duly flatterd anyway.


GO GATORS!!

grcunning · 1 year ago

heck, why bother thinking when you can "borrow" someone else's idea...hehehe

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

grcunning:

Sound off like you got a pair! I can't hear you, maggot. That was barely even a whimper. Mark Sanchez's dates put up a better fight than that.....

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

Again... whats this obsession with "conference pride" that the SEC comes up with? Personally, i'd be happy if Ohio State went 0-12 every year.

But I think i hate USC more... not sure yet.

"BC" · 1 year ago

the whole SEC pride bit came about after Auburn got denied a spot in the BCS title game.
and because SEC fans hate seeing teams like OSU, Michigan, Oklahoma, USC, Texas, etc. get title consideration every year due to their weak in-conference schedule.
I don't think anyone doubts that the SEC contains more "legit" teams than any other conference.
but for some reason voters throw that out the window when bowl selection begins.

put it this way. if you rated every team on a scale of 1-100, the SEC would have far and away, more total rating points than any other conference.
get my drift?

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Too bad Bama didn't contribute to that scale....

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

No one contends that the SEC has a deep conference and top to bottom most likely the most competitive. What the Big 10 and Pac 10 and Big 12 fans hate to see, is the constant assumptions that ANY team in the SEC can beat any top program in the other conferences. Sorry, Vandy, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, LSU(this year), Kentucky and S. Carolina are not going to beat OSU, PSU or Wisconsin, or USC or Texas or Oklahoma or Missouri.

That is the issue. You SEC fans make it seem that no team in any other conference can come and compete with the SEC. Well, I wish Michigan was in the SEC since we have a 20-5-1 record against you.

"BC" · 1 year ago

i dont think anyone believes that ANY SEC team can beat ANY other team.
nobody believes that.

i think what people believe is that if other teams were given the grueling SEC schedule, they wouldn't survive. and this is true.
Michigan would finish 7th, at best, in the SEC this year.
imagine what that would do to recruiting.

Georgia, Florida, LSU, Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, Ole Miss.
all better teams than Michigan this year.

sorry bud. i think Rich Rod's got yall on the right track though.
yall just dont have the personnel yet.

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

I never said Michigan would do well this year vs its top SEC teams. We have a young offense with no steady progress yet.

But, I would put Wisconsin, PSU, Illinois and OSU vs Georgia, Florida, Auburn and Alabama. LSU hasnt been tested yet, Tenn is not that strong and Ole Miss is ok.

Fact is, your top teams are even with any top teams in the country. And i dont think your SEC can take 3-4 games from each conference head to head.

SEC: 1. Florida 2. Georgia 3. Alabama 4. Auburn
Big 10: 1. OSU 2. Wisconsin 3. Penn State 4. Illinois
Big 12: 1. Oklahoma 2. Missouri 3. Texas 4. Kansas
Pac 10: 1. USC 2. Arizona St. 3. Oregon 4. Cal
ACC: Not playing football this year
Big East: 1. Wake Forest... maybe

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

I was reading this post with interest and seriousness until I got to the last line:

Big East: 1. Wake Forest... maybe

PM, you better get in and edit this one while you still can! LOL!!

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

I put Wake Forest in there cause I didnt want to be a total jackass. Big East in my opinion shouldnt play football either.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Wake Forest is in the ACC. So, what was it you were trying to avoid again?

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Well, at least he's not a "TOTAL jackass". :-)

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

Sorry, I erred when i said WF was in the Big East....

"BC" · 1 year ago

Wake Forest is in the ACC....
ouch. haha

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

The ACC and Big East are just so bad, it confused me to which terrible conference WF belonged to.

Zac · 1 year ago

OK, OK! I get the joke already!!! Bastages, all a yuz. Much as I hate to say it (actually its goes without saying, given it's out there for all to see) the Big East has had a terrible start, and arguably could be this year's Big Televen (They were said to have had a bad year last year.). The ACC hasn't done much better. Before we rush to judgment, let's see how they do this week, given it's only week 3. Not to mention, lets see how WVU responds to the loss to ECU in their game against the Buff's in Boulder. After all, given MI's track record, thus far, thou hast crust to be talking.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Well UNC's hammering of Rutgers certainly adds a tiny bit of clarity to that. Not much, but certainly it adds some.

UNC effectively burst Fresno's BCS busting bubble, and now Wisconsin just needs to finish letting the air out.

shiguy · 1 year ago

Hey just curious you going to that game in CO?

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Especially if Rivals were doing the rankings...

Hell, Bama'd be #1 on any list they did...

"BC" · 1 year ago

Hell, if ANY recruiting site did the rankings, bama'd be #1
Alabama obviously pays off every recruiting service.
ESPN put them at #3. Last i heard, somebody got whacked for that one...

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

BC,

You can't possibly tell me you don't realize that Rivals was owned by, employed many, and leaned heavily towards Bama homer-status...

Seriously, Yahoo! had to let go their #1 "ranker" because of his Bama Homerishness, after their initial rankings came out after the Bama homer sold it off...

Tell me you're going to deny that, because I need a huge laugh...

Oh, by the way...Has Rivals ever came out and "re-ranked" the classes? They typically do that once they find out who made it to campus, and figuring what...at least 2-3 of your 4* or higher's didn't make it in or signed pro beisbol contracts, where did that leave ya'll?

Since you signed 32 kids, and combined with bias, it's hard not to be ranked #1, BC...

"BC" · 1 year ago

this is ridiculous.
first. i dont see how recruiting sites could be biased even if they wanted to be. recruits are ranked WAY before the first recruit commits.
now yes, the player rankings are tweaked during their senior seasons, but MAJOR changes are not made.
a top 4-star (BJ Scott) may change to a 5-star.
a top 3-star (Mark Ingram) may change to a 4-star.
this goes for every school. also, every school gets ranked before recruits enroll, so what happens to the players after they sign doesn't factor in.

second. okay. let's say that Rivals, the #1 recruiting site, is solely run by this die-hard bama fan, that skews all of the rankings in bama's favor.
okay. then let's totally disregard Rivals and anything they have to say.
EVERY other publication ranked us #1.
except ESPN, which ranked us a lowly #3.

so.... whats your point?
disregard Rivals?
okay. i'll just look at Scout or ESPN.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Two years ago, you signed a kid in Saban's first class...

He went from NR to 2*'s...

I'm going to have to go look it up just to get you to stop yammering about it, but the bottom line is that the site's biased, and we've documented it time, and time again...

I'm not asking you to say "let's say"...It was a fact...Rivals was owned by a big Bama homer...It's not a baseless accusation, you nincumpoop...it's FACTUAL...and before he sold it, and even afterwards, the bias showed all the time...

That's all I'll say about the matter...

You can say its not true all you like, but I'm at work for the foreseeable future (I don't foresee the future past 10pm CST), and I don't have the time to go linking you to the information, but it's there plain as day for you to go find out that-ONCE AGAIN-TE's right...

"BC" · 1 year ago

haha.
NR just means they don't have enough info on the recruit to make an assessment. no recruit stays at the NR status. they are all eventually assigned a star rating.
the fact that the recruit was only rated at two stars discredits your entire argument.
why wouldn't mr. Alabama himself, go in and change him to 3 or 4 or hell, even 5 stars?
it's all up to him isnt it?

just wondering, what do you do that keeps you working until 10 at night
AND
doesnt allow you the time to look up facts for a fanblogs.com argument?
INITECH?

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Well, let me tell you, you little asswipe...

I own two small LLC's, one relating to mortgage consulting, and another that's also real-estate finance related...

My 9-5 is working with unemployed people, and seeing as how Hurricane Gustav just blew through, we've been working longer hours in an attempt to help everyone who needs or wants it...

Thanks for asking...

Porcine · 1 year ago

huh-huh, huh-huh, he said poop.

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

(obviously you haven't and should have) Bleed (enough) Crimson:

Check the stats, Hoss! I do believe more SEC teams make it into bowl games than any other conference. "if you rated every team on a scale of 1-100, the SEC would have far and away, more total rating points than any other conference". What would be your criteria for "rated"? We already have a rating system. It's called voters - and many times they are wrong. I have spent many a short time frame adding it all up. Fact is: The SEC has a very slight edge over the Big 12 and Pac 10 conferences in overall superiority. And, son, it really is very, very small. The SEC has a good penchant for winning their bowl games. That is a great plus for them. But, on the other hand, the very much like to shy away from any meaningful OOC competition during the course of the regular season. This has been improving as LSU did take on Virginia Tech in 07' and Alabama has played Clemson in 08'. I am speaking about historical data. Fact is: The SEC is gonna have to start to play these meaningful games as the BCS computers do pick this stuff up. Henceforth, USC left out of the 03' NC game and Auburn in 04', both as a result of weaker SOS than the other two teams. The rating system of the BCS is all BS, son! It's all based on what "voters" think. Very seldom is anything settled on the field. And, that is why everybody who is not from the south, thinks that everybody who is is completely insane. You guys somehow think that by only playing each other, and then playing one lousy bowl game (which your always handed the weakest opponent anyway - NCAA Rule # 1: always make the SEC look better than they really are as we generate more money on that venue as their fans are the dumbest in the land and really believe this soap opera), that you are impressing the hell out of the rest of the country. The rest of the country can see clearly what is going on here. Unless you all got something other than mercury in that water down there - then your players don't run any faster, jump any higher, or are physically stronger than any other geographic area in the country. We are quite sure that there is an inordinate amount of mercury in the water, though. That is very clear.

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Tommie, looks like your going out of your way to piss off the SEC, good luck with that!! LOL

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

OU_Ron:

A little. Looks like I ran smack into "the Big Kitten". And, I'm growing a little weary of having to look at "Bama Boy's" ravings. What is queer to me is what each end of the spectrum is here. On one hand, you got "the Big Kitten" who clearly has gotten some form of education (be it home schooled or continuation high school), and "Should have Bled to Death Crimson" (where clearly there wasn't a school house anywhere near where that boy was inbred at). It is fascinating to perceive, that no matter what the education level is in the south, the overall SAT score is gonna be below that of a 3rd grader in any other part of the country. LOL!
Seriously, most of the people who really did go to college (like most of the War Eagles and Tigers and Dawgs), seem to understand that I simply must beat this thing back down somewhat. It does seem to have gotten out of control one more time. I hate when the NCAA let's the SEC win anything. They all seem to have forgotten that before the BCS era was created (just for them BTW), that the SEC was completely irrelevant, and would have remained so for another hundred years had the NCAA not found a way to prop them up a bit. Henceforth, you only hear arguments for the SEC referring to something called "the BCS era". Clearly, we hear at USC, Oklahoma and Ohio State (just to name a few) understand that football didn't just happen yesterday. For some moron to try and tell me all about how, "LSU is better than USC", is about as idiotic as it can even get. These guys get "handed" two trophies and think they line up with us? I haven't personally seen that Oklahoma case either - but I know there is a whole hell of alot of hardware in there. These clowns are pathetic to me.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Tommy,

You do realize you already lost this argument, already? Be it whether it comes to casting personal aspersions, alluding to relative education levels (and all I did was go to a public high school and a public postsecondary education institutions known as LSU; sucks to realize you're being bested by such lowly, almost peasantry level intellect as mine?), or even trying to cut someone down...

Hell, even when it comes to talking college football...

(Let's not bring up your soothsaying clairvoyance when it comes to political leanings, there, Sizzlechips)

You've shown a penchant for getting owned on points, and then completely changing the subject as if you didn't bring it up, and then reversing course and going down a completely different path...

You act as if no one has been watching you here, and then post on this thread as if you've "won" every single verbal volley you've enmeshed yourself in...

You literally are making it up as you go along...

It's actually quite humorous...

But, needless to say, you're id's obviously owerpowering your sense of pride here, and thank God the internet is such an anonymous place that you don't have to actually toss out these mindless insults and babbling, rambling diatribes in person, lest you be laughed your way out of any honest, serious discussion...

Seriously...Keep going...You're giving us all a good laugh, and you're giving some good sport and early season experience...I have to start up on War Eagle Atlanta on Monday, since we play them next Saturday...

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

Big Kitten:

Oh, now it's gonna be Tommy. Don't start gettin' all mushy and pissin' yourself just yet. Don't get weak on me, boy! I almost startin' to like your fire.

OU_Ron:

Not to worry. I've never seen a mother feline with kitties stop fightin' yet. I expect I'll have to grab her by the back of the neck and just mount up at some point....

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Tommie, I'd say that was just round one, suggest you buckle your ass up and hold on.....

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Naa...I'm done with him...He took some shots elsewhere that were completely below the belt with respect to Hurricanes and the suffering that a lot of folks have been going through here down South lately, and that's about all it takes...

Not that I didn't think I had a pretty good measure of the "man" before, but that's all it takes to disengage me...

He's not worth responding to, on any level, from here on out...

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

Little kittie,

Listen up, punk ass! I live right on top of the San Andreas fault. It's within a mile of my crib. We fight ragin' infernos all summer long called "wildfires". In the winter time we battle massive mudslides caused by the major fire damage that happened earlier. This cycle repeats itself over and over every single year since I've been alive. Now, I have chosen to live here. That massive Shaker is comin', son! I'm not gonna get on here and start whinin' about my poor pitiful plight with you. If I wasn't willing to try and survive any of this - I would move to where the earthquakes, fire, and mudslides were not at. I expect you to man up. Either move to where the hurricanes are not at - or quit sniveling and grab a mop. Don't start your yappin' again around me as to how hard you got it. You got choices in your life - and I am not your problem! Fu@%&k, what a pansie you turned out to be. I thought you had a set for a second.....

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

You listen up JACK-ASS. The fact that you live on the fault line and deal with wildfires and mudslides doesn't have s-h-i-t to do with you taking cheap shots and making lite of the Hurricanes, flooding, and loss of electricity we're going through. No one ever mentioned what you live through and made a joke of it. By the same token, no one got on here and complained or cried about the Hurricanes we're going through because we choose to live here. We realize it's part of the territory just like you do in your neck of the woods.

It's supposed to be about college football on here, not insensitive pot shots from (in your words) a completely uneducated, moronic raving AZZ-HOLE! Get a phucking life you bi-otch.

How I wish, just once, that a piece of s-h-i-t like you wouldn't have your keyboard to hide behind.

And if that's the type of comments that are allowed on here, maybe I'm on the wrong site after all.

Geaux Tigers
Geaux tOSU!

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

TE:

How do you like dealing with a completely uneducated, moronic, raving, A-hole? Someone who has no substance to back up anything that they are talkin' about at all, is completely insensitive to anyone or anybody else on this blog, and has completely no respect for anybody else's team but their own? How doez that make you feel? Now, open your eyes and breath out. It's gonna be okay. Can you see?

"BC" · 1 year ago

i second this motion.
good call.

"BC" · 1 year ago

i dont really feel like responding to most of your post, as it is completely ridiculous.

but at the end, you mentioned our talent base.
in the SEC region of the country, for whatever reason, there are more great athletes than anywhere else.
which is part of the reason why every SEC team is so tough.

other warm-climate regions (such as the pac-10, and big xii) can compete, but no other region can match the ammount of great athletes generated from FL, GA, AL, LA, MS, and TN.

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

Cut that Vein:

Well, maybe when you graduate from 3rd grade you'll be able to articulate some kinda meaningful response. Hope that works out for you. Kudos for takin' on Clemson. Big fat zeros for the Tulane and Western Kentucky games. Western Kentucky? You sure they are not too tough for you? Tulane almost whipped your ass Crimson.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Not that I'd ever step in and stop a Gump from getting hammered, but Tommy...

Kudos for scheduling Stanford again...You sure they aren't too tough for you? They <del>almost</del> whipped your Trojan ass.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Kevin, we don't have .html support for things like strikethrough?

"BC" · 1 year ago

haha.
i can always count on you for a good laugh.

....you were joking right?

because im sure you were aware of the fact that alabama will end up playing 4 top-10 teams this year. 3 on the road.
please don't tell me you were actually trying to comapare USC's schedule with Alabama's.
ill do you a favor and give you the benefit of the doubt.

ahhhh. and i was beginning to think all of the fruits and nuts had left this site.

1Tomcat · 1 year ago

Hey BC You should retract your bias comment regarding so-called weak conference schedules. The Longhorns play Rice, Arkansas,@ Colorado, Oklahoma, Missouri, Oklahoma State,@ Texas Tech,Baylor @ Kansas, Texas A&M, B-12 Champ game rematch with Missu or KU, possibly Neb or Colo. Sorry BC I dont think UGA, Fla, UA. Bama or LSU could survive that schedule nothing weak about it. Last years champ was a two loss team that lost to Ark, Missu was a two loss team that destroyed Ark.
Your sh-t dont fly dude
Hookem-Horns

gatorhippy · 1 year ago

My advice to both teams...

If you're up by twenty at the end of the game, don't kick a field goal...

You'll never hear the end of it...

TampaGator · 1 year ago

LOL!!

Damn straight! instead, lob a TD in the corner of the endzone....blame Steve Spurrier for it.

May as well--if you're going to catch greif for it anyway, may as well take the TD, don't settle for a FG! (actually, I've found fans are less inclined to bitch about the add-on TD, just because you CAN; whereas the FG means you couldn't score a TD, but settled for junk points...).


GO GATORS!!

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

It's also probably best if you don't storm the field en masse after your first touchdown.

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

ROTFLMAO!

Zac · 1 year ago

And deny Kevin another thread for us to banter over???

"BC" · 1 year ago

I don't think that just a loss will kill the Buckeyes.
USC is ranked higher, and is expected to win.
but with both teams being ranked so close, the Bucs are expected to keep it close.

If the Buckeyes lose by more than 20 points (my prediction), then i think the Dark Ages may begin for the Big Ten.
but if they lose by any less than that, i think tOSU still have legitimate title hopes (however undeserved).
UNLESS.....
USC makes it into the title game, in which case, nobody wants to see a rematch.
I still think Florida or Georgia will wind up in the title game vs. USC in a game for the ages (wishful thinking).

ive been waiting for the SEC vs. USC showdown for sooooo long. because i think USC is the only non-SEC team that can compete with the #1 team from the SEC this year.

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

Poor little fellas from SC...They don't face any serious conference challengers...They definitely don't have to worry about a conference championship game...They have an adoring news media, and the biggest hype around...

Yes, the two times they've had the chance to go up against the class of our conference, they were the little engine that couldn't...

They got theirs versus Big Game Bob Stoops...Which, lets face it, everyone beats nowadays in big showdowns (unless of course your name is Mack Brown, whose been routinely owned for years now by Bobby)...Almost shouldn't even count, y'know? :)

grcunning · 1 year ago

I agree with most of that, except the hype part. Yeah, USC is currently #1, but all the hype is with the SEC. The media is no different than our little corner of the world. It's all about the SEC.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Isn't that what college football is all about?

Other than the SEC, what else is there?

TigerEducated · 1 year ago

We could discuss Utah's big opening win versus Michigan...But, what OOC opponent (sans Florida) doesn't beat Michigan these days?

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Utah? Nothing to see here, Really. I mean that. No need to stir up the media yet. Look east to Carolina. That's where the action is. Send the media there.

"BC" · 1 year ago

but really, how can it not be?
georgia, florida, lsu, auburn, and alabama all inside the top 15?
thats insane!
what's even more insane is that alabama plays every other one of those teams except florida..

and all media hype does is help recruiting.
just ask USC.

sooo, the SEC is gonna get even stronger??
difficult to fathom.
but here's why the SEC is so damn successful:
more fans = more money = better facilities + better coaches = better recruits = better teams = better, more exciting games/teams = more fans

Porcine · 1 year ago

You know what else is insane. Alabama, Texas, Florida, Auburn, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Tulsa, and South Carolina in consecutive weeks.

Zac · 1 year ago

Did I miss something? Who's schedule is this?

"BC" · 1 year ago

he's talking about Arkansas' schedule.
but alabama's is tougher this year

N Clemson
@ Georgia
@ LSU
@ Tennessee
Ole Miss
Auburn

but of course, every game will be tough for Arkansas.
they'll be VERY lucky to win one SEC game this season.

grcunning · 1 year ago

the only one that deserves to be there is Georgia
The rest are average teams
SEC= on the downslide
your little racket is over..you know what I'm talking about
"We dont have to play anybody OOC because we're so good"
"If we lose 3 games, we're still the champions cause we're so good"
"If anyone else goes undefeated, they suck, cause we're so good"
By the end of the season, you'll be crying in your beer, "We lost 6 games, but we're still the best, everybody else is a joke!"

Florida is a one player team, couldn't even score on pathetic Miami.

LSU finally has a player with an IQ over 100..their QB, the rest are "special admissions". They still suck. Haven't beat anyone.

Georgia looks spectacular against DII teams. To bad they are scared to play real teams OOC...Oh I forgot, they don't have to, they are "so good"

Alabama? who cares, they'll end up in the "Salad Bowl" Unless, of course the salad bowl is more than 100 miles from SEC country. Alabama is way too scared to play on the road. Why don't you tell me about the Tide's willingness to play a decent team on the road. Can't do it, can you. Bunch of cowards. Oh yeah,you played Hawaii on the road 5 years ago. Whoopdedoo

Auburn...don't worry about this year, it's all about "2004,2004,2004"!!

Play a real team...and I mean "This year". As long as you don't play anyone, you can convince everyone that you're the best.

At least OSU has the stones to play a real team, and doesn't cower in their own stadium and pat themselves on the back.

More fans? more money? better facilities?
what a crock...
I guess you guys do have more double-wides than we do...
More fans? what's your biggest stadium? Pathetic Tenn? Let's talk about sellouts. OSU was selling out games when the SEC had 12 hillibillies in the stands, farting and drinking swamp water.
OSU and Michigan's budgets alone are more than the whole poor assed pathetic SEC.
Keep living on your two wins.
I'd love to be here when your conference has the courage to play good teams, but unfortunately you will hide in your trailer like the rest of the fanboys.

"BC" · 1 year ago

wow.
just wow.

where did this guy come from?
i really dont feel that a fact-less post like this deserves any type of lengthy response.
so ill just say. the entire post is wrong.
but you probably knew that while you were typing it.

grcunning · 1 year ago

I think we are all getting tired of you
why don't you go back to the bama forums where you belong

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

No need for facts, BC. He wrote an opinion piece. You know what the say about opinions, right?

blackdawg · 1 year ago

grcunning, How bout share how you really feel and don't hold back next time.

Our stadium "tween the hedges", also known as Sanford, use to hold 64,000 people and it was open on both ends. The east end, when I was a kid, had the rabid track dawgs. They sat there for free right by the railroad tracks and pulled for the dawgs. No opponents fan ever sat on the tracks and lived to tell about it, so I've heard. They could probably find the bones of a Tennessean among various artifacts along that hill. There were a lot more than twelve hillbillies sitting up there too and they drank alot of beer and whiskey. I watched the game but I found myself, many times, staring at those track people. I wondered where all those people went when they enclosed the stadium. I just can't imagine them buying a ticket, that would ruin it for me. I don't know but it kind of goes with your theme, I guess you brought back memories.

TampaGator · 1 year ago

All right...now that's the attitude we're looking for!

Now, if we can just angle that angst a bit West...towards LA...you know, where y'all have a game this weekend?

We're getting there. I'm willing to work it out with ya'...


GO GATORS!!

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

grcunning:

Now, that's what I call a post. Great job! Couldn't have said it any better. But, you may as well been talkin' to a fencepost. These guys are exactly like the Arabs. I say: "just kill em' all and let God sort em' out". These are teams that have only recently discovered the forward pass. That happened when Tebow, Stafford and Mustain were recruited to their respective universities. Nutt was so uncomfortable with it, that after Mustain had won eight straight games, he had to put Mustain back on the bench. Well, at least Frank Broyles finally had picked up a copy of "popular mechanics", and had discovered a mechanism called "the forward pass" - which really seemed to be working. Clearly, he was all over Nutt to just "try it". Nutt retreated deeper into the South - where he could run the ball with impunity. There is hope for Arkansas, as they have recruited another great QB in Mallett, and brought ina head coach who is a foremost expert on the forward pass. Urban Meyer's guy, Tebow, would suffer some of the same fears that Mustain had run into. Although a great QB, Tebow was forced into leading the country in rushing yardage, and somehow ending up with a Trophy. Tebow is the perfect "Wing-T" QB for Florida. Mark Richt got so uncomfortable with watching Matt Stafford throw the ball forward, that he actually recruited one of the great college RB's (K. Moreno), in order to not have to suffer this anymore. No, SEC football will struggle with this concept of throwing the ball forward for about another hundred years. They will also try as hard as they can to avoid playing anybody who does. Maybe sometime in the next century - we'll be able to give this conference a smidge of respect.

Jeff · 1 year ago

Just like how LSU got theirs vs Big Game Bob Stoops...shouldn't even count.

dawgfan · 1 year ago

I was talking to a friend earlier and told him that the more I think about this game the closer I think it is going to be. Not only does the fate of the big 10 rest on this game, but the perception of the OSU's football program rest on this game as well. I think Tressel, the staff, and all the players realize that. They have been gearing up mentally for this game since last Feburary and will put it all on the line this Saturday. A loss could really hurt this team mentally and stay w/ them for weeks.

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

I know what you're saying about the mental aspect, but the cold hard fact of the matter is, USC is the better team. On defense, Ohio State matches up with them quite well but the scheme the Buckeyes use negates that. The D-line is so-so. On offense, Todd Boeckman is just not a very good QB and has a mediocre O-line blocking for him. In my opinion, he'd struggle to start on a MAC, MWC or Conf. USA school. At the receiver position, they don't have any deep threats or anyone who can separate from coverage. Mix in the fact that they rarely go to tight ends or running backs out of the backfield, and it makes them a good one-dimensional team with Chris Wells healthy. Otherwise, they're average at best.

As for the players and coaches realizing that this is a big game and a lot is riding on it--all that stuff is just fluff and window dressing, and none of it matters when the game actually starts. All that matters then is great coaching, talent and execution.

grcunning · 1 year ago

Jeesh Tom.
That was pretty brutal. The O-line is mediocre? They played pretty bad last Sat, but that line is pretty frickin good.
I know that Boeckman is no Joe Namath, but neither was Craig Krenzel.
The defense will shut down the run, and the dbacks won't drop any interceptions. We get at least one defensive score.
Ray Small finallly gets out of the doghouse for good by returning another punt for a touchdown(with no blocks in the back).
Boom Herron has a breakout game.
No interceptions from Boeckman.
Terelle plays, takes the snap, he's running outside, he cuts back, jukes left and right, and goes all the way!!!!
woohoo!
Thanks Tampa Gator
I'm back, baby!

OSU 24, USC 3

hahaha

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

Yeah, it was. The football coach in me wanted to puke over what I saw in the first two games, so...there it is. So far, the football coach in me is giving the Buckeye football fan in me a harsh reality check. I've talked to one...ONE...fellow Buckeye fan after last Saturday who actually thinks Ohio State will win by 10, and I've spoken to a few dozen like me who think the Buckeyes are going to get clobbered.

Sorry g, I just can't drink the Kool-Aid with this team right now. They have to prove it to me on the field, and right now they're just not doing it.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

The Big 10 has 2 chances left for the title game, Ohio State and Wisconsin. Even with a loss fro Ohio State this week their is enough time for either team to climb up to the #2 spot if they can remain unscathed for the remaining 9 games, 8 of which are in conference.

Penn State, Illinois or Michigan can make a run at making a second Big 10 BCS team. Minnesota is undefeated against MAC teams that have given them problems in the past.

They are faring far better than the ACC and Big East. This and the fact that the SEC and Big 12 can only send two teams greatly helps the Big 10. The non BCS teams look to be set on one spot, with 4 teams in the top 25 and 2 others near the ORV column, leaving one BCS slot open for the PAC 10 and Big 10 to fight over.

Unless Ohio State and Wisconsin BOTH lose, the Big 10 is still very much in the running for a second BCS bid, though they would have to steal it away from the PAC 10. The Big 10 can not take a hit like the ACC got in week 1 with Virginia Tech and Clemson.

The PAC 10 looks to be the favorite for the last BCS at large even if Ohio State wins, as they have ASU and Oregon both hovering in the needed range rather than just Wisconsin. Two hopes are better than one.

Man its going to be fun watching the BCS teams beat each other out of the rankings this year!

ALSO:
LLXVII, isn't that really CXVII?

GA_Boy · 1 year ago

Two things:
1. Bleed Crimson, I am with you on the SEC thing bro, I promise. But your over the top SEC homerism is even a little too much for me. I can't imagine how these other bloggers must be sick of it. Keep it up though cause you are probably correct about it and it cracks me up how you turn every thread into a Bamathon and "SEC rules" arguement. Here is an idea: From now on, you are only allowed to post under the 10 reasons that Bama is back thread though.
2. I missed the window to make my picks. I swear I thought we had until 8 PM tonight for some reason. What a dumbass! That really bites! Only one that I really care about getting right this week anyway.

GO DAWGS!!

grcunning · 1 year ago

that really sucks..I thought we had until tomorrow.
oh, well, my picks were horrible anyway.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Normally it is Friday at 8.

It got bumped up because of the Kansas South Florida game tomorrow night.

Man. Sorry guys, I should been on that in my reminder.

I usually make my picks at the start of the week and check back towards the end to see if I need to make changes. That also covers me if I forget about it, at least I got something.

grcunning · 1 year ago

What is really unfair is that the picks have to be made, but the odds keep changing right up until gametime.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

I really don't think it is. When I put money on one, it locks the line that I'm given. If it were up to me, when I fill out my picks, it would lock those lines so I can forget about it.

GA_Boy · 1 year ago

How small do you think Lou Holtz's eyes are when he takes those magnifying glasses off? Take a look at them when the camera is right on his face. He looks like one of the goonies.
They love stirring it up with the Chris Wells scenario. I don't think OSU wins even if he plays. I don't think OSU has the O to outscore USC in this game. With the offensive firepower they have, the way to beat them is to get one or two stops and out score them. I say 35-14 USC.

BallDogs1 · 1 year ago

BEN PRATHER, in response to your "why do you post only on threads that are off the top
page?" Could you please elaborate Ben? What does that mean exactly? I respond to what is
already there. I check out these comments like once a week or so. Once a guy named royce
even got upset because I said Wisconsin was in the Big 12. RELAX EVERYBODY....so I got
it wrong....life goes on. If you are so into football and know EVERYTHING abouit it then you
should be coaching.Not just putting your feeble two cents worth like me and everybody else here!
So lets get it straight, so that there are no more questions. I attended Fresno State. Long before that....I was already a fan of ALL things Fresno State. Be it Baseball, Football, Cheerleading and Golf. That's my choice as an American. You don't have to like it....just accept it. Go 'Dogs....win the WAC

TampaGator · 1 year ago

BallDogs:

Where ya' been bud? I was expecting some serious smack from you after your big win against Rutgers.

Good luck v. Wisc'y. Are you going to the game?


GO GATORS!!

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Truth is I like your DOGmatic and exuberant passion for your team. Us fans of the little guys need to stick together. I want your opinions out here for everyone to see, not in the corners of conversations gone by. I may have been a tad harsh, and for that I am sorry.

Your team needs a voice in these halls. I expect to here from you after this weekend. We took care of Michigan, now you can finish off the Big 10!

usafcrewchiefb2 · 1 year ago

Guess I'll drop my 2 cents off here real quick...

However gave USC a 10 1/2 point difference over tOSU is putting a lot of pressure on the Trojans. Don't get me wrong, USC is good, but at the beginning of the season the Trojans were ranked lower than OSU. Granted these rankings mean pretty much nothing since neither of the teams had seen game time yet, but a lot of time and research goes into the preseason polls. Not so much the season polls (pretty much based on who they beat and by how many, and how they look doing it).

Beanie will play! Let's sit on this for a second...Beanie played with a bum ankle and a busted wrist last season and played just fine. And now he is "out" for a "hurt foot"?? Honestly I believe Tressel and the boys are playing a serious psychological game with this one. For the past two weeks, no one has diagnosed him with an actual legit injury. All we've gotten is a "hurt foot" storyline. If they really didn't know what the injury was, there is no way he would be practicing due to the fact that they wouldn't know what any pressure would do to it. I'm not saying he isn't hurt or was hurt, but i think they are weeding it out so he is back full throttle for the game this weekend.

One thing I do see tOSU having on the Trojans is a dual back-field threat. Terelle Pryor and Beanie Wells. If we do see Beanie this weekend (hopefully we do so they is no excuses from tOSU as far as them not being 100%), and we do get to see Pryor take some snaps, we are watching two incredible atheletes as far as speed and agility. Beanie is hard to contain to a few yards as is and with Pryor helping, that is a pretty big threat. Now will we see this duo? Probably not. I don't see Tressel putting Pryor in an intense game such as this with a lot of pressure from the USC line. But I do beleive that is something that can give tOSU that little edge if needed when it comes to the ground game. And with the Trojans having a bye week, can they come out a little soft falling behind early in the game due to Sanchez not seeing any pressure through the weekend? This is a 50/50 subject. They could be more prepared or a little tight from the off time.

USC does have their threats as well. Heisman candidate, Sanchez, isn't a candidate because he looks good in uniform; it's because he a well-rounded QB. He can read his options well as well as his opponents defense before snap. He can pass well outside the pocket and is not afraid to scramble away from protection if need be. He is a huge asset to the Trojans this game. And let's not forget the home field. Trojans record on home turf is rather impressive along with their record against Big Ten teams. Numbers are just numbers though and the past is said and done. Any team can lose on any given night. Records are meant to be broken. But can tOSU break this one on Saturday?

Now as for the game! Both teams are throwing a lot of talent on the field; James Laurinaitas and Marcus Freeman vs. Ray Maualuga and Brian Cushing, Sanchez vs. Boeckman, hell even down to the coaches, Tressel vs. Carroll. Ohio State is returning many (18?) starters and only loss one to the NFL draft. USC is only returning 12 starters. tOSU is out for blood and is looking to prove a lot on the field. I think USC got the wrong impression from tOSU performance against Ohio last week (granted they did not play like the OSU we've seen before). The Trojans may have the impression that they are going to be playing a team that has fallen apart since Beanie left. The Trojans can not let their guard down. Which could be a mistake on the Trojans behalf. Both teams need to bring their A+ games and give it their all every play of the game if either team wants to walk away with a win.

Personally, I believe a BIG factor of the game is gonna come down to penalty yards (as does every game). If you look at the stats (and since I am bored as hell I looked a few up), tOSU has the upper hand in this factor. USC leads their conference in penalty yards thus far. Big runs and passes can easily be drawn back for a flag leading to some tired linemen and receivers.

As for the whole one loss and still seeing tOSU in the NC, I don't see it coming down to that this year. We are watching a lot of good teams this year playing tremendous football and pushing for an appearance in the NC. Georgia, Florida, USC, Oklahoma, etc. And there are a few teams out there that no one saw performing the way they are. Still too early to predict much of anything as far as a NC turnout.

I'll wrap it up here...both teams have got everything they need to win. They just need to utilize what they have and be able to look to each other when they are in tight spots. Both defenses are going to have to be aware of who is covering who in the deep secondary and both offenses need to ensure turnovers (if any) are kept to a bare minimum.

All in all, this proves to be a great game if both teams are 100% and play the game with all they have. I would predict it but they are just so many factors to consider when deciding this one. Although I am a Buckeye fan (if you can't tell this blog kinda went that way), USC is an amazing team this year. As much as I'd love to the see the Buckeyes pull this one, the Trojans are a damn good contender to yank it away from us. Good luck to both teams!!

"BC" · 1 year ago

haha.
i know the feeling you get before a big game.
but chill.
OSU is a joke.

USC will win comfortably.

"BC" · 1 year ago

ouch. my b.
i thought you were a trojan fan.

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

"OSU is a joke."

Coming from a Bammer fan, that must mean something because...you're an expert on mediocrity. Ooops...did I say that? Uhhhh yeah. I guess I did. :-)

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

LMAO!!

Good Luck Tom. I'll be pulling for your boys.


Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

GeauxTigers:

Thanks, bro. The Bucks are going to need all the help they can get tomorrow night!

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

All that text and only $.02? Man, you really need to work on your ROI.

Seriously though, nice essay.

usafcrewchiefb2 · 1 year ago

Haha...i don’t know whether to take that as a compliment or a stab?! But thanks tho bro...gotta get some facts out there that OSU is good and they aren’t gonna get blown out...

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Definitely not a stab my man. 'Twas just a little joke about a disquisition.

Good luck Saturday night.

usafcrewchiefb2 · 1 year ago

gotcha...i didnt really intend to say that much but when i was all done and looked back on it i relaized i put a lot of shit in there...

grcunning · 1 year ago

Hey Crew Chief, good to have you here, hope you have thick skin.

I remember when I first got here, the 2nd week last year. I really found a haven from the idiots. I remember OU-RON, War Eagle, Lennie, Tom Blogical, GatorHippie, TE. and a few others talking football, X's and O's. Defenses versus the spread, how running backs were doing, who was injured, who was playing with a chip on their shoulders.

Now it seems that this is becoming just another SEC fanpage. Noone talks about why their team is a contender, it's just "you suck",

I can get the same stuff from the SI or ESPN forums. I just got spoiled by the people that were on here, got spoiled by the fact that we talked about what is going on in the games, not putting each other down.

I wondered why some of those guys haven't been around much this year, and now I know why.

Kevin, Ben, and WEA try to start threads that will stimulate discussion, but each and every time it ends up with "SEC is the best, you are a Joke". I wish most of you guys would just go away so we could talk football again.

Unfortunately, if ESPN does another "best CFB blog" program, I bet this site drops off the list.

"BC" · 1 year ago

hey man.
dont try to act all high and mighty.

you did a good bit of "putting people down" up there with that anti-sec rant.
id be happy to get back to Xs and Os.

im on adderall, with nothing to do but get the last word.
sorry. i know im polluting the blog right now.

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

"im on adderall,"

You must have the same problem I have. I can't ever get to sleep before 1:00am, no matter how tired I am. I used over the counter stuff, but I didn't care for the side effects.

L8r.

grcunning · 1 year ago

I did that because I'm tired of the crap. I happen to think very highly of the SEC, but I can only take so much. There are other teams out there that play good football.
If you're a Bama fan, talk about Bama
You're not polluting...Say what you want to say. I would just rather that you support your team instead of putting everyone else down.

usafcrewchiefb2 · 1 year ago

Ditto on that one bro! Im actually just as big a fan for UGA as I am for the Buckeyes. So both of my favorite teams are from different conferences. And it just so happens that those 2 conferences hate each other the most as well...imagine that...

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

What do you crew? I used to be a F-16 cc back in my Air Guard days...

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Let me guess: a B2?

usafcrewchiefb2 · 1 year ago

yep yep...good ol' B2 at whiteman...

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

That's a lot of plane to crew--dollar wise, especially...

usafcrewchiefb2 · 1 year ago

Shes not too bad...she has her dollar figure...which is impressive...but she is worth every penny...

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

Off topic--Thanks WEA, RG and USAFCCB2 for your service...

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

GR, I'll offer you the same advice I offer to every Puritanical evangelical who wants to have more control over what I can see on my television: feel free to change the channel. Nobody is forcing you to read any "crap" and yet you continue to not only read that which you deem "crap", you continue to dignify the "crap" by posting agitated responses to it. Seriously, if you are truly "tired of the crap" stop reading it and stop responding to it; otherwise, you're just whining and full of BS.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Watch out for that stuff, man. If you don't have it already, you can create ADHD for yourself if you overuse aderal. Especially if you're doing what I think you're doing, and just using it in college to help you study.

Just a fair warning. Take it or leave it.

blackdawg · 1 year ago

CJ, how is the weather in Columbia for the game tommorrow? No rain I hope. I think it was 4 years ago when we got drenched in the upper deck of William-Brice from a thunderstorm. Play was stopped until it passed. I'm sure you are like us, need the rain, but football fans are "a selfish breed". It is raining up here today, the first day of bow season. I'm not a hunter but my partner took the day off cause he is, poor guy.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

The upper deck of Williams-Brice Industrial Complex can be a terrible place to be when the weather gets a bit shifty. Well, I'm certainly not a weatherman and I definitely don't have a degree in meteorology (does that make me more qualified?) but my best guess is that it'll be extremely hot and humid (this is Columbia after all) and there might be a little spot of rain for a few minutes, but I certainly don't think that you'll get soaked. Now that you mention it I guess I need to plan for that and take an umbrella so I don't have to hear my wife b!tching about her hair getting messed up by the rain. I'm excited for some tailgating though, as it'll be my first of this young season.

usafcrewchiefb2 · 1 year ago

weather is gonna wet and overcast like a champ...we are getting the hurricane fall off here so its gonna be a wet game...me and some of my buddies are headin out to columbia tonight to catch some late night pregame parties and tailgate...nevada is gonna get trampled but i hope they put up a good fight and its not a blow out...i hate boring games...

by the way i am talking about the Missouri - Nevada game...

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

...actually now I'm hearing that it'll be a little cooler than I thought. Still, I doubt there will be much rain if any.

blackdawg · 1 year ago

Weather channel website 90 to 91 around kickoff - "feels like" 98 by 4:00 PM, dropping to a "feels like" 91 by 7:00. 10% to 20% chance of rain. Hot and humid apparently, typical GA - SC weather for mid September. Hydrate with plenty of fermented liquid. We will have an M.D. in our group so a less likely chance of a beer induced heat stroke, unless he goes down first then we could be in trouble.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

LOL. Like I said, a little cooler than I thought. Just a typical early September day in Columbia.

MD - Yeah, actually we've got 2 of those as well. They're the lightweights though, and they're USC grads, so I might be taking care of them for a change. Don't worry though, I'll make sure they have their insurance cards on them first.

1Tomcat · 1 year ago

Hey grcunning Its okay dude, because some folks are homers and not all are sold on all this our conference is tougher than yalls stuff. These conference disscussions have gone on and on and it doesnt do any good to argue with a brick wall.The guys from the SEC outnumber everybody here on this blog and they are a twisted bunch of football fanantics and always have been.If it makes you feel better check this out the B-12 had 4 teams finish in the top-10 in 07 went 12-0 last week and 10-2 the week before against OCC opponents. I generally try to stay out of all this junk because everybody knows that the B-12 rules. Sounds kinda silly doesnt it.
Okay Hookem-Horns 1-1 vs OSU 9-0-1 vs Bama

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

We usually try and run the trolls out of here--the guys who only want to say "your team sucks". We now try to require all putdowns of another person's team to have creativity with context. We can cut on each other, just make it funny and not too nasty. It was nice to have that rating system for comments, but like a government hand-out program, it got preverted really quick.

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

Alright, I'm obviously covering for putting my reply in the wrong spot, so I'll just summarize what I said earlier. I don't think this game is as big as it was in the preseason, it will make or break the season for tOSU and the Big 10(11), but beyond 2008...I don't think so.

grcunning · 1 year ago

Hey Tom,
I don't know if you read above, but I ranted and raved about the SEC. We haven't been able to talk about any games at all this year, it always turns to the SEC.
How about OU?. They are a great team, but even they take a back seat. It makes me so mad that I want to pull my hair out, and this weekend's game hasn't helped.

I remember one year that I couldn't go to the Michigan game, I had to give my tickets away because I was at OSU hospital with my father after his surgery. We watched the game, and Tim Biakaboogiewoogie or whatever his name is ran all over us. I was freaking out, and my dad said, "What's the big deal, it's only a game. Your grandpa was the same way."

Mayble I let it get to me a little to much. I'm just an alum, I don't play on the team or anything, but I live and breathe scarlet and gray.

And when I hear people say "You suck", and "You are a joke", it pisses me off. They don't say "My team is better", it's just "You suck".

I just wish we could tone it down a little bit and talk football.

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

"We haven't been able to talk about any games at all this year, it always turns to the SEC. How about OU?. They are a great team, but even they take a back seat."

Well, I think OU has the same problem tOSU does. They haven't won a big game lately. Until that happens again, they aren't going to be talked about as a serious contender. I don't let it get to me much anymore either. You have to remember that College Football is all based on opinion, unless you're talking about league play or a single football game at the end of the year. It's not like a team has to prove itself against elite competition at year's end a few times as in most sports...it's one game for all the marbles based on a beauty contest. So, based on that one game, or a few big games during the year, the opinion of the nation is shaped. We can't control the outcome of the game (OK, most of us with our budgets can't anyway, LOL!) and we can't control anyone's opinions so...I just let it go and have become a realist.

Ask yourself this question--if someone just says "You suck." or "You're a joke."--is it usually worth it to pursue a conversation with that person and try to convince them otherwise?

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

Good point Tom, all the BS about who has the best conference don't mean a thing to me, it's my team that I care about, if someone on here say's my team sucks, that doesn't really mean a thing unless their team beats mine, and then they suck only in their mind...not mine..

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

Yeah, that's actually a much better and more concise way of saying it! To add to what I said earlier, I think the nation has short attention span syndrome. It's not just what have you done for me lately, it's what have you done for me last week. I'm probably guilty of it myself right now, but I'm trying to be objective, not negative.

OK, that being said, I do have a feeling it's the Sooners year this time around.

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

I think we have a very good team, and I think they're focused this time around, if we could just get over the bowl slump.....but Stoops has the team ready and the focus is FINISHING THE LAST GAME.

1Tomcat · 1 year ago

OU SUX

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

O.....K..............I hope you were trying to be funny.

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

No Tom, he means it, but it's nothing personal LOL

Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago

Gotcha. Carry on! :-)

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

TC, are expecting any high winds from Ike, how far are you from Galveston.......All my relatives decided to stay in Houston and ride it out...

1Tomcat · 1 year ago

No Ron thanks for asking, I'm a couple of hours west from the H-town area, we are bout 50 miles south from Austin.
I've got a house full of folks from the Freeport/ Galveston area. I came home at 7 am and we drank Jack Daneils and watched a ZZ Top DVD. Everything is looking good from this end. God Bless the folks from the Gulf coast.
Adios Tomcat
Hookem-Horns
P.S. Now that the Ark game has been postponed the Horns have two weeks to prepare for Rice instead of OU
The Horns face Ark,Colo,OU & Missu in consecutive weeks

usafcrewchiefb2 · 1 year ago

well before I posted anything here I actually read a few blogs and noticed the same thing. Lots of conference bashing and who has the harder schedule and what not what not. Each conference has there good teams and bad teams. Their wins and losses. Who really cares? Just support your TEAM and whoever they play. Honestly, not a Trojan fan at all but they are good. I'm not bashing them on their schedule this year. Who cares?! The way I see it is we are just fans and have absolutely no pull on who our teams play or the BCS process. So leave it alone. Let rival games remain fun and interesting and leave the record shit at the gates. Each conference has their powerhouses and their tramp stamps.

anyway...look forward to talkin with you all throughtout the season and getting some shit along the way im sure...seems like a bunch of good guys hang out here...look forward to an amazing season of college football with you fellas...until then...

GO BUCKEYES!! (guess i oughta start putting that in now huh?)

supa-duppa · 1 year ago

Well here's my $.02......

I'm pretty sure, Pete Carroll game planned for Wells to play, and if Tressel is smart, and I'm pretty sure he is, I'm sure he took that into consideration......

If I was Tressel, I would save Wells for the rest of the season.......but he will play a big role in this game...... I would use Wells on a different types of plays involving sweeps where he would run out of bounds to save him from being knocked around, preventing further injury........ I would then use Wells on a few play action passes, drawing the linebackers closer into the line, leaving the secondary bare and having them almost play 1 on 1 with the receivers. I don't care how good the secondary is....... college or pro. If you get a receiver 1 on 1 with the safeties or corners, 90% of the time the receiver will always win out.......

Basically Beanie Wells will pretty much play decoy for the most part of the game........ a la Reggie Bush.........

Wait, why am I helping the Buckwheats........

FIGHT ON...................

usafcrewchiefb2 · 1 year ago

not a bad way to look at things bro...i could see this happening...But with carroll not knowing Beanie's complete injury status, he may be a little confused as to what part of tOSU offense he needs to contain more...with beanie out he needs his linebackers to drop more than blitz in threat of a high passing game from tOSU...but with Beanie in, he needs them to blitz a little more...but i hear what you are saying...we will just have to wait and see...

Mr2Bits · 1 year ago

Is there any way possible both teams could lose?

Think Im going to have to pull for OSU as I dont see USC dropping any along the way but then again, Stanford was the best game last year.

1Tomcat · 1 year ago

Yes Stanford is the toughest, and I'm glad that USC & OSU have this game it means that football fans dont have to hear any BS later about these two because they already faced each other. This early in the season two highly ranked teams from different conferences colide.
The LSU's and UGa's are just jealous because they scheduled weak opponents and dont have balls like Carrol & Tressel

GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago

Posted in the wrong place...again.

Above post directed to Tommy Trojan.

Geaux Tigers
Geaux tOSU!


edit: Nevermind. Post deleted due to choice of words used in response to idiot from Southern Cal....

BallDogs1 · 1 year ago

You bet I'll be at the game.....it's a shame we only sell out the "big games"
Coach Hill and his staff put in alot of time and effort ....this is a first for us.....a
Big 10 team in Fresno that is......RELEASE THE HOUNDS!!!!
oooops I mean 'DOGS!

PrinceMarko · 1 year ago

Who else here thinks Beanie Wells is still going to play? I smell some Tressel shenanigans.

Timothy Ott · 1 year ago

I am a Michigan fan normally, that being said, I hope the Buckeyes beat the Trojans and shut up all thatt USC - Sportscaster love affair. I am sick of it it has been going on to long. As much as this pains me to say "GO BUCKEYES !!"

Jim · 1 year ago

Why? Is this such a big deal to Ohio State. It is because once again burocracy takes presidence over the best.

Until a team like USC gets dropped to the bottom or out of the polls when they loose a game instead of just two or three spots the conferences like the Big Ten, and the Big East will never get the respect they deserve. I mean who else does USC play besides OS that is worth anything? Yet because of $$$ and the Rose Bowl they never get the recognition they really deserve 00!

Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago

Jim,

Once again your insight is so amazing that I could not get it. Will you please re-post in some form of intellect that can be understood in the western hemisphere? Thanx.

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

I posted this on another thread, but it feels like a good fit here.

NCAA football parity is for real. If you understand that even numbers of schollys for schools,
means that big money/status schools, can no longer sign a lot of top talent, to ride the bench. Then, you must try to understand that traditional powers, are the ones that will take the hit. That being said, strength of conference will, over time, occasion a major shift of where the top talent will go. It is inevitable. You mark my words, and watch over the next ten years as some of the top left coast talent, starts to enroll in the southeast.
Considering strength of schedule, and parity. A traditionally dominant team, in a weaker conference, must eventually start to lose more often. That sucks for you, EVERYBODY else likes it. Stay with me now, traditional Powerhouses, start to look beatable to everybody else, can I hear an Amen from Appalachian State, AMEN!

This argument to the next level.
.
Arizona State lost UNLV
Oregon won Purdue
California lost Maryland
Stanford lost TCU
Oregon State won Hawaii
Washington lost Oklahoma
Washington State lost Baylor
Arizona lost New Mexico
USC won OSU
UCLA lost BYU

I don't care who you are, that is not a very impressive day.

NonBuckeyeBig10Fan · 1 year ago

Ohio State just doesn't get it. Go to their website and you'll find what's really important to them - you'll see a counter for "Days since Michigan's last victory over Ohio State". All very nice...but they might want to think about a sobering statistic - "Days since Ohio State beat a non-conference BCS team." Until they can beat the USC's and the SEC teams, a victory over Michigan isn't going to mean a whole lot.

Joe Smith · 1 year ago

The entire state of Ohio, the ridiculous alumni and moreover red neck fans that give OSU the most appauling football following in the country had this one coming to them. What a group of arrogant pricks.

Have you not forgotten your glorious BCS games?

Maybe just maybe if you stopped running your mouth constantly, playing Div 9 schools (Youngstown St / Troy.. Do they even give degree's??) you MIGHT have karma back down a little. However your "fans" (a.k.a. ohio state felons) who insist on pegging opposing teams with beer bottles, damage to vehicles, physical fights, hitting women, knocking children over and everything else possible, continue to exhibit jail house behavior that does nothing more than to provoke every possible GOD to slap the ***eye's around when it counts the most.

THE OSU is and needs to be fully examined from the top down. Those that support this school should be put on the next plane to Guantanamo Bay.