It's the summertime. We need these threads until Kev can get the full skinny on all the uniform changes. :)
Zac
· 5 months ago
...modled by each team's female cheerleading squad...in the rain.
Oh, about Ben's senario, I'm not certain I don't like Fresno St better than Hawaii in the West.
Regan
· 5 months ago
Rain is a wonderful thing.
Zac
· 5 months ago
Amen, Bro!!!
fosterkeats
· 5 months ago
TV: So call me now! $5 for the first minute, $2 for each additional minute! Homer: [dials the number] Voice: You... have reached... the Coach's... Hot-... Homer: Line. Voice: Line. Homer: Yeah, lay it on me, Coach. Voice: In the game... of... Mi... am... i... Homer: Mm hm. Voice: Versus Cin... Homer: Cincinnati. Voice: cin... Homer: Cincinnati. Voice: nat... Homer: Cincinnati. Voice: i... Homer: Come on, come on, don't you realize this is costing me money!
Tom22
· 5 months ago
(more NC solutions again? : ) ) Washington is going to come back eventually, (they were a topnotch program for so long) Stanford is major West Coast institution, usually able to attract decent talent and certainly fan interest.
There's more to a season than picking out teams for a play-off. Pac ten schools shouldn't ever give up the rivalry of playing the two Washington schools, the two Oregon Schools, The two bay area schools and the Two LA schools...West coast champion. I suppose that Fresno state, San Diego State, Or San Jose state would want to be included in the west coast conference but they really haven't proven themselves consistently and they certainly don't have the Cache of the other schools especially in terms of graduate schools etc. (Well, Washington state gets a bit of a free ride there because they're no top choice for the best high school non-athlete applicants). Maybe drop the Arizona Schools and let them play the Mountain state schools.
The rivalry is more than between football programs, its between Graduates of the colleges that like to see each others boys dual it out for bragging rights etc. We know that USC has the dominant program but that makes the years of upset that much sweeter... even playing them close is satisfying. All the teams in a conference need to play each other every year for a meaningful title too.
Part of what makes college football pleasurable is the alumni ties etc. I just don't have friends, neighbors, relatives, and coworkers who went to Utah or Boise state.
I know you might need more than 8 schools to earn a ticket to an 8 game playoff but CA has 11% of the US population and add WA and OR and you get 1/8 th of the US population living here. I got another idea I might post in open thread.
Ben Prather
· 5 months ago
This was a pity design I had been obsessing about, so I vented it out to get rid of it and finish the alternate post season discussion for this year.
You are right in that only two rivalries are guaranteed to be preserved. With 7 PAC 10 teams in the same round robin elite league this would allow those teams to play 8 of the 9 other teams. You are right that California would lose one of the games with one of the Washington schools, as Stanford would not be lost.
The three teams left behind would be hurting with a 7-3 split, with only 4 conference games maintained, but would still get their share of the revenue distribution for the conference and would have games they should be better able to win, as they are obviously at a low point now. Do good and win their bowl game and they are in the elite league next year.
Tom22
· 5 months ago
Ill post it here.
(wild idea) Conference versus conference duel?
Maybe drop a regular season game and have a December date where all the schools in one conference play all the schools in another conference (i.e. the #1s playing each other for a mega conference championship, the #6s 7s & 8s playing each other for a conference vs conference duel which would have great emotional appeal and maybe built an exciting match at the end of the season for teams having disappointing years where fans have given up interest)
Have the Pac 10 play the Wac, the MWC play the Big 12, the Big Ten play the Big East, the ACC play the SEC.
Well, I know it wouldn't be an exactly fair way to pick 6 of the 8 teams for the NC game as some of the conferences have stronger traditions than others and more teams. Maybe it give the edge for consideration of 2 wild cards though.
It sure would be exciting though.
Ben Prather
· 5 months ago
More teams are scheduling games at the last minute due to the recent wild swings several teams have made, addition of a 12th game and the recent increases of price in a guarantee game.
All of this is making neutral site games more appealing. I expect to see a far greater number of these BYU-Oklahoma type of games in the future. Cowboy Stadium has indicated it would like to host roughly 10 college games a year, with plans to secure 2 or 3 bowls. That leaves 7 or 8 regular season games, one of which will be the RRSO.
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Oh, about Ben's senario, I'm not certain I don't like Fresno St better than Hawaii in the West.
Homer: [dials the number]
Voice: You... have reached... the Coach's... Hot-...
Homer: Line.
Voice: Line.
Homer: Yeah, lay it on me, Coach.
Voice: In the game... of... Mi... am... i...
Homer: Mm hm.
Voice: Versus Cin...
Homer: Cincinnati.
Voice: cin...
Homer: Cincinnati.
Voice: nat...
Homer: Cincinnati.
Voice: i...
Homer: Come on, come on, don't you realize this is costing me money!
There's more to a season than picking out teams for a play-off. Pac ten schools shouldn't ever give up the rivalry of playing the two Washington schools, the two Oregon Schools, The two bay area schools and the Two LA schools...West coast champion. I suppose that Fresno state, San Diego State, Or San Jose state would want to be included in the west coast conference but they really haven't proven themselves consistently and they certainly don't have the Cache of the other schools especially in terms of graduate schools etc. (Well, Washington state gets a bit of a free ride there because they're no top choice for the best high school non-athlete applicants). Maybe drop the Arizona Schools and let them play the Mountain state schools.
The rivalry is more than between football programs, its between Graduates of the colleges that like to see each others boys dual it out for bragging rights etc. We know that USC has the dominant program but that makes the years of upset that much sweeter... even playing them close is satisfying. All the teams in a conference need to play each other every year for a meaningful title too.
Part of what makes college football pleasurable is the alumni ties etc. I just don't have friends, neighbors, relatives, and coworkers who went to Utah or Boise state.
I know you might need more than 8 schools to earn a ticket to an 8 game playoff but CA has 11% of the US population and add WA and OR and you get 1/8 th of the US population living here. I got another idea I might post in open thread.
You are right in that only two rivalries are guaranteed to be preserved. With 7 PAC 10 teams in the same round robin elite league this would allow those teams to play 8 of the 9 other teams. You are right that California would lose one of the games with one of the Washington schools, as Stanford would not be lost.
The three teams left behind would be hurting with a 7-3 split, with only 4 conference games maintained, but would still get their share of the revenue distribution for the conference and would have games they should be better able to win, as they are obviously at a low point now. Do good and win their bowl game and they are in the elite league next year.
(wild idea) Conference versus conference duel?
Maybe drop a regular season game and have a December date where all the schools in one conference play all the schools in another conference (i.e. the #1s playing each other for a mega conference championship, the #6s 7s & 8s playing each other for a conference vs conference duel which would have great emotional appeal and maybe built an exciting match at the end of the season for teams having disappointing years where fans have given up interest)
Have the Pac 10 play the Wac, the MWC play the Big 12, the Big Ten play the Big East, the ACC play the SEC.
Well, I know it wouldn't be an exactly fair way to pick 6 of the 8 teams for the NC game as some of the conferences have stronger traditions than others and more teams. Maybe it give the edge for consideration of 2 wild cards though.
It sure would be exciting though.
All of this is making neutral site games more appealing. I expect to see a far greater number of these BYU-Oklahoma type of games in the future. Cowboy Stadium has indicated it would like to host roughly 10 college games a year, with plans to secure 2 or 3 bowls. That leaves 7 or 8 regular season games, one of which will be the RRSO.