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The stupid rule where you can receive a kickoff on the field of play and if the receiver's first step is to go out-of-bounds, this counts as a kick-off out-of-bounds and the ball is placed at the 40 yard line, must go.
Roughing the passer, helmet-to-helmet contact - I'll admit I've only seen the previous stupid rule enforced twice, but this one I tend to see about 50 times per season. The problem is, QBs see a defender coming and knowing they will get sacked they intentionally dip their heads down to make contact with the defender's helmet. What should have been a sack turns into +15 yards for the offense.
These rules make me angrier than an LSU fan at a Nick Saban rally.
That rule is truly boneheaded, and it lacks any semblance of logic. Therefore, I must deduce that it was created by Congress.
1) The Clock Rules (discussed previously)
2) Fumbles rolling Out-of-Bounds the End Zone automatically being declared touchbacks (change of possesion without defense even touching the ball).
3) Teams cannot wear the jerseys of their choosing if they mutually agree to it prior to the game (ie: SCAL/UCLA).
4) CUTTING OFF THE BEER AFTER THE THIRD QUARTER, WHEN WE NEED IT THE MOST.
5) Any rule of any kind restricting in any way "the flagrant violation of the halo", which is hands-down the most entertaining penalty of all. :)
"4) CUTTING OFF THE BEER AFTER THE THIRD QUARTER, WHEN WE NEED IT THE MOST.
What is the beer during the game that you speak of? Man, I wish they could serve at on campus stadiums, or whatever the ridiculous rules are.
Speaking of, I remember a few years ago that the Scottish Claymores of NFL-Europe offered quite possibly the greatest sporting event offering of all time. If the Claymores scored 28+ (might've been 21+) points by the end of the 3rd quarter, the beer was free for the remainder of the game. Good Lord man, I got excited just typing that.
How about a Falcon fan at a Petrino rally?
...and I have to agree about Grant Field. As much as I respect Bobby Dodd, I don't like the extended stadium name. Of course it could be worse. Remember McDonalds Court at Alexander Memorial Coliseum?
#0: "Death of Capitalism"? I know what you mean, but nothing will change the fact that this recession is simply that - a recession. They come and go every once in a while, usually around 8-12 year increments, etc. Just because some egomaniac and company wants to go around and try to change our very way of life using the economy as an excuse doesn't mean it's in any where near this bad.
Extended whining session (sorry, I am an Economics guy...and I just got a job 2 weeks ago in this horrible economy after months of searching; so take that, doomsayers!!!) :)
#1: Tickets: Eh, I dunno. I think different schools have different reasons, and uniformity is not a friend of CFB. Absurdity notwithstanding (ie: I agree - no tickets for the dead), of course...
#2: Independents: Why not? Who cares if a school wants to go out and make a name for itself on its own? Why should they be forced to join a collective if they don't wish to? With advances in telecommunications (and the ability to watch any game live via computer), revolutions in technology could loosen up the strangleholds of the needs of conferences in the next 20 years. Communism is EVIL! :)
#3: Split Champions/Conf. Champs: Personally, each conference should be free to crown its champion in the manner it deems fit, and then present each champion to the BCS to play against each other. While it would be best if the Conf Champ Games were either for all conferences or none, that's up to the NCAA in allowing less than 12-team conferences for them. Let's blame them...
#4: Pre-Season Polls: The drugs we cannot live without come August, when we are fighting CFB withdrawal and are at our weakest. If things keep going like they did the last 2 years, it won't matter. The good news is that the one that matters doesn't start until the season is underway. The AP poll is now officially meaningless.
#5: Cupcakes: I can stomach one FCS team scheduled per season, simply to allow for intra-state rivalries, but I'd like to see a 'standard' emerge of at least one BCS Conference team they don't play every year.
#6: Boosters Behaving Badly: I'm not one, and thus agree wholeheartedly.
#7: Stadium Names: None are named for me, so I agree wholeheartedly.
#8: Pre-1936 Polls: Good luck getting this past the Michigan and Notre Dame fans, lol. All polls prior to 1936 were retroactive polls by the College Football Foundation and a few others (if I'm not mistaken), so declaring them null shouldn't be a problem.
Heck, some years after then don't deserve a National Champion, but I'll digress... :)
Clemson vs. Furman
Georgia vs. Georgia Southern
et cetera
Of course these will never be intense, but I maintain that the games are needed as I will reference one of my previous posts.
"I firmly believe that all D1-A schools, especially those that are public, should play a lower division school in their same state. For instance, if Clemson plays Furman (located 45 minutes away) it allows for that money to stay in that immediate area, and to funnel the money back into that state's economy. For schools that receive state funding especially, I think it's only fair to the taxpayers that it happens at least once a season. For the schools that don't receive state funding, they should do it strictly to benefit their local area and its economy.
Now on the other hand, doing it more than once a year is a detriment to the schedule, and I really wish we (in particular) would stop."
The more money you kep in the state the more it benefits the state...
Makes sense to me...
Does that not bother you???
And the baseball field is even worse: Samford Stadium-Hitchcock Field at Plainsman Park. Sure it can be considered a stadium, field or park...but is it necessary for a name for each? Kinda ridiculous if you ask me.
Anyways, I pretty much agree with you.
;)
The most egregious renaming was around 1973-74 when my alma mater renamed their stadium for an active coach, being the first school in the nation to pull that stunt. Naturally, Alabama became the second, you know, since they're always in our shadow...
:-)
Good joke. ;)
Darrell K Royal Stadium ( Texas ).......Love it, named after a OU Football Player and Grad...;-)
Off topic here but I was watching the history channel and I finally figured out how you guys got the tag Sooners. Interesting story......
That's why the Texas fans call us Land Thieves ;-)
Examples that come to mind:
Gaylord Family--Oklahoma
Ben Hill Griffin--Florida
Milan Puskar--West Virginia
Who am I leaving out?
Hell, he has donated so much money to em, his name is on everything from drinking cups to their sheep..
I don't have a problem with Notre Dame as an Independent, because they generally play a tougher schedule than they would if they were in conference play. For those that "hate" the BCS, I think Independents are your best option. Just imagine if four or five marquee teams dropped their conferences like it was 20 years ago. Penn State, FSU, Miami, Notre Dame... maybe sprinkle in a Big XII as an independent. Fierce.
And, I must confess that I don't take issue with RZF @ Doak. I know Gatorhippy likes it that way, too.
Say it with me...
Ron Zook Field at Dork Campbell Stadium...
It just flows like the smoothest satin...
;-]
148 days until the 2009 season kicks off with South Carolina @ NC State on Thursday, Sept 3rd.
150 days until most of our teams kick off.
Right now, I couldn't care less who plays in the first game. I really just need to watch some college football, and I've seen all of the games on my DVR far too many times.
Of course, it was totally unrelated to CFB but should keep us going for a bit...
...or is it too early for that?
1.) The University of Neuter Lame
2.) Lou Holtz
3.) Kirk Herbstreit
4.) Brett Muffburglar
5.) Pete Carroll
6.) Mike Slive
7.) The new clock rules where they run it as soon as they spot it.
8.) The MEAC
9.) The SWAC
10.) Bleed_Crimson
Bama_Babe's List
(In no particular order)
1- LOU HOLTZ
2- The loooong offseason
3- Rocky Top
4- JoPa's ancient glasses
5- Ignorant fans
6- All announcers who think Tebow is God
7- Current SEC Referees
8- Holly Rowe
9- Players leaving early for draft
10- The long amount of time CBS timeout coordinators spend on the field..
There are a few more, but this will do ;)
I'm afraid she'd kick my ass, too. And out drink me, and out-other things with me that would leave me shriveling in the corner...
Who cares if she's a Gator?
You know, I was planning on majoring in Sports Broadcasting. I used to say that I was going to be the next Jill Arrington. After she disappeared, I said I was going to replace Holly Rowe. I've since changed my mind on that career....And my father helped by telling me that I know more than any of the sideline reporters will ever know about football, and they're just a little eye candy for the men...
Another negative was that I would have to be unbiased towards Alabama and wouldn't get to always be in T-town in the fall...
Do you not think you're OUR eye candy, BB?
:-)
Exhibit A:
The 2005 MNC game after interviewing Matt Leinart, Holly said "Thanks, Vince".
UHHHHH, really?!?! Vince was the winner and game MVP. Matt was the one crying on the sidelines.
Exhibit B:
Interviewing a coach (it could have been Tubs this past year, not too sure) at halftime.... [Sidenote: Said team had 2 first downs in the half]
HR: "So, Coach, what do you think about your new offense?"
UHHHHH, really?!?! I think he's not going to be too happy about it, Holly....
At some point we've probably all been #5 though.
Let's get rid of the NCAA!!! Especially the means with which they punish entire teams and schools, as opposed to punishing those involved and imposing punishment which fits the "crime". Since they don't have the sack to declare a Div-1 Football NC themselves, they shouldn't be involved with Div-1 Football!!!
2. Banish all these Bowl tie ins. Create better match up for the bowl season
3. Banish Automatic BCS bids the ACC and Big East did not deserve bids last season
1. Lou Holtz
2. Lee Corso
3. ESPN naming every weekend something stupid, like "Showdown Saturday"
4. Pam Ward, her Adam's Apple is bigger than mine...
5. I want the f*cking "PEACH BOWL", not the "Greasy Chicken Sandwich Bowl"...
6. Stop playing bowl games at 3pm on Wednesday Dec 29th... who the hell can attend them???
7. The Notre Dame Suckfest, either join a goddamn conference or play your 13th game in Hawaii every year, no reason for them to go 8-4 and get to play on New Year's Day...
8. The token interview with the Douche Bag who's head of whatever company is sponsoring the Bowl Game. "On behalf of everyone at Summer's Eve Femine Spray, I'd like to congratulate Northern Illinois for winning this year's Independence Bowl..."
9. "BCS Busters"... BYU, TCU & Utah are so deprived... stupid cliche..
10. CBS television timeouts. Thanks for making a 3hr game 4.5 hours...
I agree completely. I throw up in my mouth a little when they go to a commercial and they flash up a screen saying something along the lines of "Every Touchdown Counts" or "One Play Can Change the Game". I really don't think it can get anymore ridiculous. I truly wouldn't be shocked to see one that says "The Team Who Scores the Most Wins".
FWIW - I liked the Charlie pic - it had a counterculture panache to it.
(In no particular order)
1) Mike Leach.
(Sure, hang 70 points on anyone so you look like a powerhouse, you'll get what's coming to ya...)
2) Re-naming traditional bowl names.
(No one had a problem with the "Capital One Citrus Bowl"...there is no need for usurption of tradition for the sake of advertising.)
3) Boston College.
(Quit pretending. Get out of the ACC and get back into the Big East where you freakin' belong. You are not wanted, your TV market was. You're good people and have a good school and a nice little team, but for the love of all that is good and holy, quit lying to the world and pretending you have anything in common with the rest of the conference...or just lose annually to Clemson and Miami like you should; whichever works best for you.)
4) Pansy Quarterbacks.
(Those prissy QB's that just try to avoid mistakes and worm their way to a first down line instead of being a freakin' man.
CASE IN POINT: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSskqthHbeE&feat...)
QB's should be gritty, tough, and always looking to throw deep. Knock them down, they get back up. They lower the shoulder for the extra yards, and smack LB's to block for their RB's when they get the chance.)
5) The Heisman Trophy.
(We don't care anymore. Stop pretending it matters. This thing is won by the individual player whose name is spoken the most times on ESPN Gameday and absolutely nothing more. The "most outstanding player" can only be one of 3 positions, and could never, ever be someone playing at one of the other 21 spots.)
6) People who still call the University of Miami "Thug U".
(Who is president? Ronald Reagan? Who coaches the 'Canes? Jimmy Johnson? Do you know what year it is? Can you name a Miami Hurricane player that has been arrested and charged in the last ten years while he played at UM? Sure, Willie Williams was a bad seed...setting off a fire alarm. Yeah, there was a raunchy rap song in a dorm, but it was a DORM. These people either need to admit they are unreasonable proods, absolute hypocrites, or...they just don't like Miami...)
7) College Football Communism.
(You all know exactly what I mean...[http://itsatraprap.ytmnd.com/] )
8) The Ball Control Offense:
(Play football, dadgummit. FOOTBALL. Not keep-away. Go out and play the game with heart, emotion, energy, skill, and luck. If you can't compete, you aren't the better team. Deal with it. Is the little baby going to run out the clock because he's scared of the other team's offense? Have faith in your freakin' defense, be a man, and play the game. This isn't the fourth grade.)
9) Hype.
(Between the downright offensive [to 90% of the country] levels of hype and coverage of the MICH-OHST game to the Legendary Reggie Bush Creamfest of 2005, SHOVE IT. Let me see my teams, and let other people see theirs. Sure, celebrate greatness, but after SCAL's 34-game run, I now despise a school I would otherwise not have anything against because of all that 'greatest of all time' slobbering that still makes me red with anger. Gar.)
10) December BCS Trolls.
(People who aren't CFB fans that show up every December just to whine about CFB's post-season because it isn't like theirs. Listen to Admiral Ackbar, guys...) :-)
And...because it needs to be said, and I am just in one of those moods to go the extra mile with my legendary ability to whine:
11) The New Clock Rules.
(I paid for a ticket to watch a game. Make that game shorter and you are stealing my time, happiness, and changing the game itself by giving a team less time to come back and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. The new clock rules should be killed, burned, and the earth where they came from salted so nothing so stupid is ever thought of ever again.)
That's all I can think of at the moment..... :-)
2002 Tangerine Bowl: TXT is up 30-2 at halftime; CLEM managed a safety to get on the board. Four touchdowns, the game is already beyond ugly.
Sideline reporter comes up to Leach and asks him what his thoughts are on the game, and the ^&%$&@#$ starts ripping into the job his offense had done; that they hadn't scored more points, that they weren't executing, etc.
The four TD's were not defensive TD's. His offense had scored 30 points. A Bowl game...the Tangerine...that meant absolutely nothing.
Then he kept starting QB Kliff Kingsbury in all the way through the 4th Quarter even when the score sat at 55-15.
Sure, CLEM could have played better...we've all had those days watching our team get pummelled.
But never have I heard a coach ticked off at his offense because they were only up four touchdowns at the half, like he expected to score 50 first half points against my team.
Mike Leach is the kind of guy they created parking lots for. Not even Spurrier in his days at FLA was that much of a ^&%$&@#$.
complaining about running up the score or any excuses about " we are
just running our offense". I am fairly certain every playbook has a
half back dive. LOL.
So's your team and school...but Leach needs an ole fashioned friendly keelhauling. :)
During the 07 OK st game- have a happy halftime-classic
What if Leach came to Clemson?- got to appreciate what he has done for the TTech Raiders beating teams like OU and Tex on occasion
The Universe doesn't want Mike Leach at Clemson. That is why the stars aligned and Dabo Swinney impressed the AD and got the job.
And part of CLEM fans' frustration was that Tommy Bowden's teams could beat absolutely anyone 'on occasion'. Same thing went for losing, sadly...
CFB needs characters like Leach-The XII has some interesting press conferences between Gundy,Leach and Mangino you never know what to expect-I have to really respect these guys and what they have done for their programs-These guys know how to get the most from their players and compete at the highest level.
Hookem-Horns
(Who is president? Ronald Reagan? Who coaches the 'Canes? Jimmy Johnson? Do you know what year it is? Can you name a Miami Hurricane player that has been arrested and charged in the last ten years while he played at UM? Sure, Willie Williams was a bad seed...setting off a fire alarm. Yeah, there was a raunchy rap song in a dorm, but it was a DORM. These people either need to admit they are unreasonable proods, absolute hypocrites, or...they just don't like Miami...)
See the problem is you have incidents like this. The nickname will never go away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBG5ZBGxufY&feat...
Sure, out of control things happen at MIA; however they have become quite rare at MIA compared to other schools and especially compared to the 80's and 90's 'Canes.
Sorry, I just get riled up when people don't give credit where credit is due, especially to a disciplinarian coach like Randy Shannon.
why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxWFDgQyZgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kerm7fp_960
and yes, they are this bad for the entire game.
2. LSU fans and Nick Saban. how long has it been? 5 years.
your new coach, while pretty unlikable, has won y'all a NC. just embrace him please. and get over Nick Saban.
why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV6Bu83g86w&feat...
watch the whole thing.
hardly deserving of "F--- YOU SABAN" chants.
but then again, we're talking about Cajun Trash. worse than rednecks.
3. Tim Tebow commentary.
i love Tim Tebow. don't get me wrong. he is a GREAT competitor and leader.
but, and this may come as a shock to some, he is NOT the second coming of Christ.
We all know there's a bong picture out there just waiting to surface
4. Capitol One Mascot of the Year! wait. nobody really gives a **********************
i doubt anyone has EVER used this as bragging rights. if so, they should be shot on sight.
5. Champs. you know, the high school dropouts that come to games for one purpose only. to get drunk and start fights. (many "champs" are found in Baton Rouge)
6. dreadlocks. alright. so they were cool at first, when the baddest meanest LB from each team had BAD looking dreads making him appear like Predator. now, just about every black player in the south has them. i think it's time for a change in style
7. the clock rule. obviously.
8. the not-so-late hit out of bounds = 15 yds and first down.
9. the offseason
10. TE
But...
We all know there's a bong picture out there just waiting to surface...
C'mon now...
a beer funnel at least.
Right on...
Actually, we've all seen the pic with him and the girl with the, eh, bolt-ons...
No wonder he never fumbles...
Quite a few South Carolina fans that I know definitely have...
Great call on #8 by the way. I didn't think of that one but you're definitely right. That's one of the more annoying things in the game today, especially when the guy will tightrope it down the sideline, hop out at the last minute to take the "late hit" and get the call.
And ESPN, just do 2 things for me: show me the games &tell me who wonthe games you didn't show... all te oter crap can go away...
Byzantine Ticket Sales: Let's start by doing away with Ticket Master and other ticket brokers. By God, with today's technology, just about everyone should be able to get on line and buy tickets directly from a given college or university when they become available. That won't stop scalpers and all, but the days of ticket brokers & inflated ticket prices, in my opinion, are long past.
Independents: As far as I'm concerned every school has a right to be as it sees fit. Ya wanna be affiliated with a conference? Be affiliated with a conference. Ya don't wanna be affiliated? Don't be affiliated. However, the truth be known; in all of college football there are maybe a couple of handfuls of schools which could get away with it. All but one are conference affiliated. The other two "indies" which aren't, for the time being at least, nobody wants. And, that makes no sense to me.
Split Conference/Division Champs: I must admit; this is NUTS! There was one year the Big East had 4 of em. There has to be some kinda a tie-breaker. I know; the one(s) left out will belly ache, but ya takes the good with the bad. In conferences which have 2 divisions and a conference championship game, I can see proclaiming regular season Division Champions; the winner of the game between them being crowned Conference Champion. I can't see crowning a regular season champion, then proclaiming division champions, then having a conference championship; that makes no sense.
Pre-Season Polls: These are like pores; everyone's got em. (No, that wasn't what I was thinking, but it works for now.) As worthless as they are, they do spark a lot of debate, which is part of what makes a blog site like this one work. My only gripe involves the weekly polls during the regular season. I say reduce that to a poll after 4 games played, another after 8 games played, another to end the regular season, and the final poll after the NC.
Scheduling Cupcakes: I don't like BCS conference teams, especially Big East teams (They're only asking for trouble.) scheduling FCS teams for regular season games. If a team needs a tune-up or test to gage the rest of the season, there are plenty of Div-1 teams from "Non-BCS" conferences to fit the bill. (Note: I don't take issue with a BCS team scheduling an FCS team from the same state for revenue purposes. BUT, let's keep that to a minimum.) Now, I realize every FL, OSU, TX, or USC out there can't schedule all of the Armies, ID's, LA Monroes, Marshalls, NM St's, N TX's, San Diego St's, SMU's, Tulanes, UAB's, UCF's, & W KY's of the world. There aren't enough of em to go around, if teams have room for as many as 4 or 5 of em on a schedule. Yes, I know; there's an element of risk involved. Even the likes of Baylor, Duke, IA St, IN, MS St, Syracuse, WA, or WA St play a good game, if not have a decent season, once in a while.
Boosters Behaving Badly: Let's turn em over to Fosterkeats!
Renaming Stadiums & Fields, etc: I have only this to ask: What's in a name, anyway?
Championships claimed before 1934: Again, what does it matter? There are those who live in the past; those who live for the present, and those who work toward the future. If your team has won a legitimate NC (Now, there's the question: What makes a NC legit?) it doesn't matter if it's one or a dozen. Nobody can take the one away.
More Pet Peeves:
I absolutely hate the running into the kicker rule, especially when either the guy rushing the kicker is already in mid-air before the kicker gets the ball off, or the kicker stands there like the Statue of Liberty, up on her tip toe with the other leg sticking out just waiting for somebody to run into them. I've seen rushers miss the kicker, land on the ground, the kicker trips over them, and the rusher gets flagged. STUPID!!! As are the refs who call it.
On the other side of that coin are those receiving punts. It's my understanding the "halo" rule was dropped for the 2008 season. So, why were some (obviously stupid) refs still calling it?!?
Speaking of penalties, I'm to the point personal foul penalties should be reviewed. The refs don't always get them right, and too often, all involved are not penalized. I'm especially concerned with late-hits out-of-bounds. Oh, and lets not forget those REDICULOUS "Excessive Celebration" penalties. Let em play!!!!!
I stand with those who don't like the new clock rules; they haven't proven to save that much time. I stand with those who don't like names like the "Ever Love'n Footloose & Fancy Free" Degenerate Bowl, as opposed to just the Degenerate Bowl. As Fosterkeats has already pointed out, there's plenty of time throughout the game for the sponsor to air commercials basically saying, "Dig Me & my sponsorship." Not to mention, that does more to lengthen the game than has the old clock rule.
Speaking of bowl games, I agree: Abolish the bowl tie-ins, and let the best non-nc teams get the best pics. And, oh, we can definitely do away with elaborate half-time events featuring Janet Jackson & her...wardrobe issues, among others.
As usual, that's me and more than a mouthful, so, I'll stop for now. Enjoy...or not...
#1 no polls till week 4
#2 no more storming the feild- Ex RU and TTech
#3 all conferences use the same method for determining conf champs
#4 no more commercial time outs
#5 no more cutting away from the game being televised- we dont care lets not go to our John Saunders in New York- we dont care about it we are trying to watch the CFB game
#6 no more stupid interviews while the game is in progress- before,halftime and after-thats it
#7 no more leaving early for that other league
# 8 no more 6 BCS conferences- all teams from all conferences have legit chance
#9 no more MNC a true NC would be better
#10 Move the overtime spot back its too close
I positively HATE #'s 5 & 6! Bad enough when they do it during live game time, to show the highlight of another game, but too often it's for basball or golf or hockey, or NASCAR or something else. If it's during a college football game, then stick with up-dating college football!!!
#7: If USC is leading San Diego St 50-3 with 12 minutes to go, I can see them picking up another game for "bonus coverage", at least let it be Div-1 and let it be a good game.
I've been with you and your #8 since time immemorial. (I'm also with you on #9, but keep it quiet; Regan might be listening.)
#10: How would you feel about the 40 yard-line? That means a team could get just about to the 30 w/o making a 1st down, AND a FG from that distance wouldn't be guaranteed. Decisions, Decisions... Hmmm, I think I like it!
To you, and to one & all, Blessed Easter!!!
As for #7 I was referring to for example the Horns losing a great QB, RB and TE to that other league-the NFL-What if the Horns had a sure handed TE last season- Colt would have had another target- scary There are currently three former Longhorn Tight ends on NFL rosters.
2. kirk herbstriet, just about every college guy who has/had a g/f and was at a bar who spotted herbie, with said g/f, no need for details, during college gameday weekend...which brings me to...
3. lee corso
4. notre dame, i went to catholic school from 2nd grade through high school, about the only thing that was hammered through my head was 1. skirts are awesome, and 2. notre dame is awesome, i don't really follow catholicism any more
5. teams leaving old/real rivalries for new ones/cupcakes, or conferences un-acknowledging them, i love how the ACC kept some traditional rivals in their divisions, and i love how the sec has done so as well, the big xii could care less about nebraska v oklahoma, and at some point penn st could play pittsburgh again, ark v tex, unc vs. SC, im still praying for VT vs WVU, miami and florida are kinda trying to stir it up again, and the game in '08 was solid, til florida pulled away
things i like on the other hand:
1. having 3 tv's and espn360 on my laptop, each airing a game from noon-10pm every saturday
2. thursday night, homerism for lane stadium at worsham field (i love the double triple quadruple names), but nothing beats coming home to start the football weekend right with a solid thursday night game
3. mid major programs, i love tuning in on wednesdays and fridays and watching the wac, sometimes the mac and the mwc, i don't get cstv, so i can't watch c-usa, but its fun to watch these smaller programs, especially some of the talent most people miss watching the major programs, my only gripe is the fan support down there but you can't really blame 'em, most aren't "football schools" with awesome stadiums
4. oregon's uniforms, i f*ing love 'em, they're hilarious, creative, and add a twist to "tradition", whats oregon's tradition? "we change uniforms game to game!", i will admit, some are downright ugly, but at least they can break the mold and have some fun doing so
5. football in the south, from the carolinas to miami beach, and west to baton rouge, the pageantry, atmosphere, and sheer massiveness of sec and acc football makes the fall that much more awesome, and yes, the acc less so cuz its more of the liberal brother, but you can't dismiss what florida st, clemson, virginia tech, and georgia tech and nc state have done creating an "sec type" football atmosphere
Keep the faith, brother, and the College Football Gods will shine down upon the next Black Diamond trophy, and another ESPN Classic will be born. Go Hokies!!! Go Mountaineers!!!
If the football team can only get motivated by their fans wearing the same color, or by the team wearing a different color jersey, then I quote Dan Hawkins... "THis is Division 1 Football!!!!"
Just ask Georgia how their BLACKOUT worked against Alabama last season, a jersey isn't gonna win games, boys...
Utah & Florida St wore black jerseys last seaon, black isn't even an official color of the university... How low will schools go in order to sell a few more hats & jerseys??? Pathetic...
but yes the blackouts are along the lines of dumb when schools don't have black in their colors, utah does though, its a secondary color, i did not like the greenout for shonn greene, i thought that was ridiculous, they beat penn st though, and every1 know's alabama's coach's line "they're wearing black for the funeral" or something like that
Having a big time, big name, high-profile school come to town for a football game is a big boost for these schools & their respective communities. Especially those in smaller towns. As was (overly) chronicled on ESPN 2 years ago - most people, football fans included, couldn't begin to tell you where Appalachian State University is located. Having the LSU's, USC's, Florida's and Oklahoma's of the world come to town is a big deal for these teeny schools. Of course they aren't going to win, but the pay day is nice, their name gets mentioned on a national stage - even if only for a day, their stadiums are packed in and sold out possibly for the first time in years, local hotels & resturants see a nice bump, particularly for schools that travel well, etc..
So I say let Chadron State have a shot at its 15 minutes of fame. You never know when some undecided high school senior and/or his parents are sitting around looking at the tuition bills for Big Name U. and realizing, "We can't make this happen"....just might see U. of Edinboro getting rolled over by Wisconsin (not that Wisc would ever schedule anything like that........*eh*) and decide to send off for an admission package just to check it out. There's more to the story than just final scores and record padding. That 3-hour spot light on the little guys is often the only time they get in it. Let 'em have it.
There's plenty of very hungry mid-majors that need exposure and a paycheck AND by virtue of being non-BCS FBS teams, they're next in line to get the chance--not FCS teams.
Even so, the sentiment is intact. The smaller schools do gain from playing the bigger, other wise,....they wouldn't. There's still money, national television exposure, giving alumni/boosters a shot in the arm to keep coughing up, a recruiting carrot to dangle in front of both highschool and coaching prospects, [ "We'll be playing on national television at least 3 times in the next 3 years. ] Think of it as the Obamanomics of football - share the wealth! : (
Even if a total stomping, the game is still a 3-hour long commercial in Saturday primetime on NBC or ESPN or whoever, for Wassamatta U. That's worth sumthin.
All I'm pointing out is this cloud isn't without its silver lining. I'd rather see Auburn/LSU than Auburn/Charleston Southern any day. But, its not all, all bad.
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Tulane is an exception for us (LSU). It's usually held in the Superdome and more than half the place is filled with families that are divided on which team they pull for so it's alot of fun. I was glad they renewed that game and look forward to it each year.
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guess its kinda like Tulsa vs OU or Memphis vs Ole Miss
Texas has scheduled so called mid majors on the road lateley
Texas @ Rice
Texas @ UCF
Texas @ UTEP
and this year Texas @ Wyoming
I don't know about Tigervision, but just about every Horns game is televised- Big Alum Base- Big state-lot of fans
They routinely jack up their single game ticket prices...for the LSU game only...
We just signed a 10 year contract to play them annually, alternating games in Tiger Stadium with a game in the SuperDome, which does nothing but prop their AD up...
They just raised their "LSU Game price" in Baseball to $30 for one ticket...When at LSU, I can get a bleacher seat ticket for $5 if I want...All to bleed Tiger Fans who want to watch their team play down in New Orleans completely dry...
Eff Tulane...They're probably the only entity in collegiate athletics that would give me pause were I given the omnipotent-esque ability to end either them or B_C's existence...
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I think it's a jealousy thing man. It kills them that they aren't the premier athletics program in the state. Although, their baseball team has given us fits in the recent past.
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Personally, I got nothing against 'em. I pull for 'em when they're not playing the Tigers. But then again, I pull for nearly every in-state school as well.
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I gonna' go out on a limb here, and venture a guess that they're probably not particularly jealous of the local state school...
...maybe a different emotion going on there...
Just a thought.
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LSU's Law School is more highly ranked. We also teach Napoleonic, or Codified Law, which they don't. Which makes LSU a renowned Law School for those wishing to specialize in International Law, as we are the only state in the Union that has a large section of its system of laws & governance based on the old Napoleonic Codes...
Tulane is a place where kids who couldn't get into Ivy League Schools go where they want to chase their pain away for four years slobbering and slurring while pouring themselves out of French Quarter Bar Rooms over not getting into Yale with the neighbor's kids.
Don't let their athletes fool you, either. They created what is essentially a Junior College Curriculum for almost all of them that's called "University College" that's a complete and utter joke. Kids who've transferred from Tulane into Delgado Community College down there-which is a JOKE in and of itself-have actually LOST credits because their curriculum is so crummy.
Never let the facts and stats get in the way of your assumptions, TG...But, what should I expect from a Gator Grad?
Gradulations, TG...To parrot the famous words of Bocephus, you're just carrying on an old "[Gator] Fambly Tradition"...
Your lack of a sense of humor is in itself, hysterical.
First, according to US News and World Report, LSU's law school is ranked 88; Tulane's is ranked 44th. See:
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.c...
You'll have to work your way back UP to find Tulane.
["...Never let the facts and stats get in the way of your assumptions, [TE]...But, what should I expect from a [Tiger] Grad?..."
Second: Tulane, and Loyola, and probably UNO, also teach Civil Law (a/k/a Napoleanic Law, a species of Civil Law), since it's the law in Louisiana--as opposed to Common Law, the law in virtually every other jurisdiction 'er, State (apparently gotta' dumb things down a bit for a Tiger grad). Tulane also teaches common law, though I can't speak to the rest of them.
Third, and far more saliently:
You (and apparently GeauxTigers) completetly misunderstood my post. I did not insinuate that Tulane was on par with Harvard, or any Ivy League school (did y'all miss the " "'s?).
That quote comes from paraphernailia from the Tulane bookstore; bumper stickers, shirts...
It's a freak'n joke, fella's. A play on words. Rather than the cliche'd "X is the Harvard of Y region" (e.g.--Stanford is the Harvard of the West"), those cleverly cocky son's of guns turned it around, and made it "Harvard, the Tulane of the North", as if Harvard would be honord to be compared to them--genius! and hilarious!!
...and oh so much "chudspa" (a wonderful little word my Jewish friends introduced me to). Hence, any school with the "chudspa" to suggest that Harvard would be honored to be compared to them--is probably pretty damn comfortable about who they are, and their place in the world.
Factor in private school tuition that's 10's of 1000's of $$$ higher than LSU's, and admissions that are much more stringent than LSU's--and it's a fair quess to venture that they're not particularly hung-up on LSU's renowned athletic program.
Fourth:
There's also a basis for this "assumption" as you characterized it (I did say it was just a guess): my brother grauduated from Tulane. So while maybe my info isn't exactly up to date (certainly pre-Katrina)--it's also not completely without basis.
Finally:
Besides my bro, and his friends, I also knew a few tranfers from TU to UF, and still know some alumini around here. From that limited perspective, I can say this much: they generally appreciate LSU's athletics, certainly enjoyed taking trips to Red Schtick--but from what I glean, let's just say they don't exactly look upon Tigers as "peers", and I have yet to detect so much as a sentilla of Tiger-envy in any of them.
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I've attended a lot of games live and the fans of KSU,A&M,Tulane,Iowa were all really good folks- No offense to Porky, but as a Texas Fan Arkansas & Colorado are the worst-throwing stuff, foul language,vandalizing vehicles etc etc
We really had fun with the Iowa folks at the Alamo bowl couple years back-real classy and good sports
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Why thank you.
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Yeah...You have NO idea about true Tulane Fans, nor the fierce white-hot heat the rivalry used to burn with.
They were an original member of the SEC...
"...You have NO idea about true Tulane Fans, nor the fierce white-hot heat the rivalry used to burn with..."
It's been almost 50 years since Tulane was in the SEC, so I doubt that's what's irking you.
What happened, did they reject your application?
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Clemson/South Carolina? Georgia/GT? Alabama/GT? UF/FSU? FSU/UM? USC/ND?
What am I missing there? Oh, you think just because they've sucked for half a century that we don't care?
You think that since we play them, but they don't truly compete with us, there's no tradition or rivalry?
You think since we have a very active rivalry with them in other collegiate sports (Baseball, namely) that it must not count?
I was raised to hate Alabama, hate Ole Miss, & hate Tulane...To differing degrees, of course...
I hate them as Rivals, I don't hate the institutions at their core, nor the vast majority that root for them...
I will say that we had two Tulane fans ejected from our section in Tiger Stadium this past year after they called the folks we've sat next to in our season tickets for 15 years "stupid" for being fans of-and attending-LSU in college. After he took umbrage to it and asked how many of their team was in "University College" the guy got ugly, and made disparaging remarks about the guy's wife. REAL CLASSY IN SOMEONE ELSE'S STADIUM, huh?
But, that's an isolated incident that used to be way more prevalent, but is no longer a rule, and more like an exception.
I hate Tulane's AD for his raping LSU Fans with ticket prices, but as I stated earlier in the thread, they are HUGELY important to the New Orleans area, and the fabric of the Community.
Perhaps you missed that part...Maybe so...I dunno...Maybe you also missed the part where when I talked about them being the scum of the Earth, I admitted-readily-that I was joking.
Whatever floats your boat.
I don't care where you are, leave the wives out of it. That's off limits to me, and it's classless regardless of the setting.
Coach Mack Brown was a former HC at Tulane.
They came to Austin a few years back and we enjoyed tailgating with the Green wave- good folks.
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P.S. you know I like underdogs
The only problem is that LSU's Medical School became so good, they spun it off as the University of New Orleans...
UNO started out as LSU's Medical School in New Orleans...
Those folks you tailgated with are the scum of the Earth. I hope you didn't eat or drink after those vile, fuilth ridden vermin. They and their pestilence-filled ragamuffin ilk are a pox on the state...
(I kid...Tulane University is still-four years post Katrina-the largest Private Employer in the city of New Orleans right now. That's huge, and they are VERY important to the fabric of the City. It's just that I facking hate them, with a Purple (and Gold) Passion)
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Okay. Okay. Maybe as much...
I get it, though. You just like the good ol' Big Blue Ocean, and can't figure out why people want to make it change colors....
Beauty! I'm surprised your post hasn't garnered a scathingly defensive reply, especially with the dual bammer/Gator banner...
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My point was made perfectly initially.
Brilliantly played! Now that's "chutzpah"! (better?)
You get your azz handed to you on a paper plate, having your one great assertion of LSU's academic superiority over Tulane (law school) blown out of the water, off by a mere 44 schools to the bad...
...your claim that LSU's law school is the only law school in LA that teaches civil law exposed as blatantly wrong...
...exposed for mis-reading a comment clearly made in jest (Harvard/Tulane)...
...your claim about UNO disassociating from LSU turned on its head (your "point" failed to address TO's proposition--and b/t/w, UNO doesn't even have a med school, and in fact was conceived as a Lib-arts school, so the very premise was apparently factually wrong)...
...yet you pretend to treat me like a red-headed step child.
I guess I stand corrected--at least on the "sense of humor" part.
Funny stuff, TE...
LOL!
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Your still entitled to your thoughts my man but it is what it is.
Notice above that I stated "athletics program" as being the source of their jealousy. I live with 'em everyday, work with 'em and are related to a few of 'em (Wave fans). I think I would know.
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Yeah I noticed it. I'll just refer you to my reply to TE above.
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I'm with you on that. Without mentioning it earlier, that was the jist of my comments as well...that being that Tulane alum, fans, etc use their academic standards as a rebuttal to losing to LSU in athletics. I've heard it too many times...ribbing, in good fun though.
Something along the lines of "You might've won the football game but you couldn't even afford to come to Tulane, much less have the brains to stay".
FWIW, I've always thought pretty highly of Tulane's academic program. Although, I didn't get the jist of the "Harvard of the North" comment earlier. Just never heard it before, that's all. Thanks for clearing that up. I do recall a previous conversation some time back where you mentioned your brother being an alum and you spending time in Nawlins.
Contrary to my fellow Tiger fan, I like the Green Wave. Just root the other way when they play my Tigers, that's all.
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"...I like the Green Wave. Just root the other way when they play my Tigers, that's all..."
As well you should; they don't pose a threat to LSU in any way, certainly not on the gridiron.
Frankly, regarding Tulane's academic rep, I think it's source of pride for the state of LA; like Vandy to TN, Emory to GA, Duke to NC, Stanford to Cali...
Florida doesn't really have one. UF is its best school--like UM to Michigan, UM to Minnesota, or OSU to Ohio... (U/Miami is solid, but it's not as good as UF).
A reputable private school IMO, should be a source of pride for its host state--they usually attract excellent resources to the state, contribute substantially to the local economy, and bring a degree of prestige to the host state.
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Unless we're talking about baseball. Scelfo has given us fits in the past. Here lately though, Minieri (LSU's coach) has gotten the Tigers back to the top of the National Rankings and Tulane lost a few of the players that always stepped up against the Tigers so the pendilum may have swung back in out direction for the time being.
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Rick Jones is the head coach of their Baseball Team. "Sock Man" himself...Dude makes Tom Jones proud...
Won Coach of the Year in...what....04?
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I love the old rivalries man. Keeps tradition rolling.
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Texas vs Arkansas and Oklahoma vs Nebraska still ought to be played every year. The Hogs backed out on this years game, dropped the Horns and are going to play the Aggies
A&M will definitely be the underdogs a game against Texas would have been more exciting
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They dropped the Horns-didn't make any sense-except they accepted an invite to Jerry Jones new Cowboys stadium to play the Aggies- Jones an extremely wealthy Hog Alum and Cowboys owner cooked up the deal. A&M went way back after coach Fran left, they lost some key players at key positions this year- Sherman is going to have to simplify his gameplan and play more underclassmen. Every year is different, but the Aggs have really stuggled on both sides of the ball.
I'd like to see them be a bit more competetive next season- I went to two A&M games last year and they were not even close-poor Aggies
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2.) Ron Cherry
3.) Ron Cherry
4.) Ron Cherry
5.) That ACC ref...what's his name? Oh. Ron Cherry.
Okay, Joe. The fact that you know an official's name means you're obsessing...
There might be other officials in other conferences that are bad, but in the ACC it doesn't get any worse. When Clemson has a game not played at 12 or 1, I seriously log into a site covering every ACC game before ours to find out if he is at their game instead of ours. If he's at our game, I assume the worst.
He really is the worst head referee I've ever paid much attention to. I really just want him gone. Other than his famous call, I really don't think any ACC fans like him.
Like I said, there might be others out there in other conferences that are just as bad, but I've never seen them if they are.