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Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Unbiased — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:39:38 -0000

Tommy_Trojan:

I officially rescind my statement from 2 months ago about USC. You guys looked AWESOME in the Rose Bowl, and your conference proved it was for real during the bowl games.

Congrats on a great season.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Tommy_Trojan — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 00:48:07 -0000

Porcine:

Try and get this stuff - it isn't that hard. What happened to your beloved Pigs the last two times they played USC? Well, they same thing happens to most teams.

The LVSC rates a top 30: They are...

1.) U.S.C. 113.2
3.) Florida 111.1
7.) Georgia 107.8
8.) Alabama 107.5
12.) L.S.U. 105.0
13.) California 104.9
18.) South Carolina 102.0
21.) Oregon 101.5
26.) Arizona 100.8
28.) Oregon State 100.5

So, there are ten teams here, and the PAC 10 has five of them - and so does the SEC. Now, clearly, overall the SEC holds an advantage of a few points per team.

Sagarin would rate the teams in this manner:

1.) U.S.C. 106.07
8.) California 86.25
9.) Oregon State 85.95
15.) Arizona 84.09
26.) Oregon 81.18
49.) Stanford 74.61
58.) Arizona State 72.85

2.) Florida 98.08
6.) Alabama 90.57
7.) Georgia 86.56
27.) Kentucky 80.02
29.) L.S.U. 79.63
32.) Vanderbilt 78.03
35.) South Carolina 77.6
39.) Auburn 76.72
44.) Tennessee 75.42
48.) Mississippi 74.78

Again, you should notice that there is not a whole lot of difference between the best teams in these conferences. But, there are more good teams in the SEC. There are not huge differences, in over all ratings for this particular year, although the SEC has a slightly higher rating per team of just a few points. Depending on what rating you want to look at, the SEC could be better, or the PAC might have a little more strength at the top. Flip a coin! We'll never know because we never meet in Bowl games. It's against the rules dontcha know!

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Tommy_Trojan — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:26:25 -0000

Greathaze:

Man, you've got to chill on the purple haze, dude. Vince Young was probably the best player in the nation, 2005 Texas is rated the # 3 team in history, and the PAC 10 has had the best record since the BCS era began against all OOC competition. Also, USC has played and beaten more Top 25 teams in the last several years, than anybody else has even played. That's why their SOS is always rated so high. You are quite wrong about everything that you have mentioned. Do you need me to back it up one more time? Oh, looks as though Ohio State is gonna do pretty well this year. And, here we got another guy who can't put a team avatar up there. Looks like another disgruntled BYU fan - or possibly Boise State.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

1Tomcat — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:14:25 -0000

Look I dont like Mangino or the Jayhawks
I dont like OK State or Texas Tech
I would have included OK State instead of KU IMHO
thats all Tommie-the long and short of it
Texas Tech and OK State usually faulter- somebody is gonna win and somebodys going to lose because the B-12 south is sick- every game every week anybody can beat anybody- there is no clear favorite- like what exist in the PAC-10
BTW you were right about BYU who lost to the Frogs

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Ben Prather — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:58:44 -0000

Eggs, chickens, counting...

Should have listened more when we were younger...

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Porcine — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:02:59 -0000

So the professionals think that USC will dominate their inconference opponents, but the pac-10 is not weak? Or is it that they are both just so good? I seem to think of a conference fanbase that has been accused many times of this line of thinking. Looking at the Fanblogs pickem' the biggest spread involving SEC teams is Georgia at 14.5 over Vanderbilt. i guess these professionals are expecting tougher competition for the SEC teams this week than USC is facing this week and faced last week.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Dan — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:43:46 -0000

How in the name of this green earth we live on does one place U
SC above OU?

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Tom_Blogical — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:30:46 -0000

Double T:

If you're referring to the ESPN story, I think it's a story where the writer of the article had an approaching deadline and needed an angle. Voila! QB controversy!

Are the players frustrated? Yeah. It would help the team if they'd just keep their mouths shut and play ball though. Truthfully, all the issues they have start with the O-Line. They've been terrible this year, and I honestly believe Steve Rehring is the worst lineman in college football. Plus, the receivers don't get open because they're not running their routes well, they aren't exactly speed demons, and when the ball is thrown their way they tend to drop it. It would be helpful if the QBs would look at the wide open TEs once in a while, but the problems they have aren't truly QB related. Poor QB play is a symptom, not a cause, in this case.

Here's another way of looking at it. Terrelle Pryor is the starting QB because he erases mistakes made by the O-Line. Todd Boeckman needs perfect protection to play well. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out, and I think this writer is trying to blow the situation out of proportion.

If there is a locker room problem, I don't believe it's any worse than any other locker room in College Football right now. And if I'm wrong and it is, all that has to be done is for Boeckman, as a team captain, to call a team meeting and put an end to it all. Especially if he means what he says in the press about caring more about winning than playing.

So that's the scoop as I see it.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Ryan — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:24:30 -0000

Heres my 2008-09 College Football Rankings (Week 7)

1.Texas
2.Alabama
3Penn State
4.Florida
5.Oklahoma
6.USC
7.Texas Tech
8.Oklahoma State
9.Georgia
10. Utah

2008-09 College Football Bowl Projections (Week 7)

BCS National Championship (BCS #1 vs. #2)

#1 Texas V.S. #2 Florida

Sugar Bowl (SEC vs. At-large)

#4 Alabama V.S. #7 Utah

Orange Bowl (ACC vs. At-large)

#10 Virginia Tech V.S. #8 Pittsburgh

Fiesta Bowl (Big 12 vs. At-Large)

#5 Oklahoma V.S. #9 Boise State

Rose Bowl (Big Ten vs. PAC-10)

#3 Penn State V.S. #6 USC

Comments welcome guys

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Tommy_Trojan — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:08:20 -0000

Tom:

I'm counting on Ohio State or Iowa to take those guys out. But, I hear that there is some rumblings amongst the players and that they want Boeckman reinstated. I don't like to go on just what we hear in the National media. Any truth to those rumblings? Is the team getting ready to revolt? What's up with that?

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Tom_Blogical — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:43:29 -0000

"What if Penn State only has one loss and it's to Ohio State?"

LOL! You're asking a lot out of Ohio State this season.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

JB — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:26:16 -0000

I totally agree about all of that. I dont think we should praise BYU or Utah or TCU yet..untill they beat a quality team. Same with Texas Tech.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Tommy_Trojan — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:32:18 -0000

JB:

Oh, okay, the NC game was in 2004. Sorry about that. You were referring to the 2003 season in general. I don't see as to where we're in disagreement on too much. I just look at things in a different way than most people do. The problem that I run into - is that my team is the USC Trojans. I do try and be as impartial as I possibly can - but it's real tough for me to do. I believe that there are a few very good football programs out there - that very much rival ours. But, I do not believe that certain teams can make the quantum leap, all the way to the top of the heap with just one good year. We saw what happened to Hawaii against Georgia last year. That is a classic example of how some team has one really great year, goes up against an established power, and just gets pasted. The same thing happened to Illinois when they ran into Southern Cal last year. It's happened to Notre Dame every time they've had a decent team. The only school that really broke that trend, IMHO, was West Virginia in the last few years. They actually have gone out and won two BCS bowl games - while emerging from obscurity. Boise State got lucky one year. Kansas won a game last year. Utah won a game once. Sometimes, a non-traditional team, can beat a traditional National power. But, it's not very often. Happens about once a year. I'm not too sure that Penn State can come from where they have been in the last couple of years - all the way to the top of the heap. They may get plastered if they make it. Those are my arguments about the whole system in general. I would make the statement, "that if Texas Tech was unbeaten and ranked # 1 in the country, and that USC was only 10-2 and ranked 8th, that USC would beat that team by twenty points". That's just the way that I see college football. I would also make the claim that LSU would beat them down as well.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Tommy_Trojan — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:17:36 -0000

AUtigerman:

Texas has about five more brutal games to play. It's very unlikely. But, as I mentioned, I surely would not mind.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Tommy_Trojan — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:12:56 -0000

AUtigerman:

Yes, I'm not even in disagreement of that. It's all a "Mythical National Championship" anyway. There was change to the system after the 2003 season. That was a farce. Fact is: USC did play a weaker schedule than LSU and Oklahoma did and were duly punished by the computers for it. Nevertheless, it didn't make them any worse because the competition was. So, the system was tweaked. Now, the "voter polls" include about 2/3 of the weight in determining who should play the game. Still flawed? Of course it is. It's now more like it was in the "old days". So, why do we even have a BCS System? We'll only know who is really the most deserving teams, after a short playoff, and the winner takes all. That is gonna be the only way of ever knowing exactly who was the best team in any given year. I would surmise that at the end of any season, there are still about 4-5 teams, that have displayed the ability to be just as good as anyone else out there.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

JB — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:55:17 -0000

I never dispute that USC shouldve joined LSU in New Orleans. The fact is that the werent. What i am saying is that if we arent going to honor the system then why are we gonna have it. And the games were in 2004.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Tommy_Trojan — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:45:55 -0000

JB:

That was 2003. And, USC was rated # 1 in both polls, and the BCS system picked LSU and Oklahoma to play in the game. That was a total shaft and everybody knew it - except for you. That's why the AP voted for USC as the # 1 team in the nation - regardless of what the "BCS system" had determined. There were even some coaches from the "coaches poll", who were bound to vote for the BCS Champion, who voted for USC as being # 1 instead. That's how ridiculous the whole situation really was. Go back and learn your history befor continuing to babble on about things that you know nothing about. USC is only favored by "the media" as long as we are undefeated. That's it.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

AUtigerman — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:44:11 -0000

Tommy

Whos pretenteding....na just kidding. My hopes are that a one loss USC team gets left out and heres why.

When a team with the clout of USC or Notre Dame starts to get screwed then change has to be on the horizon.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

AUtigerman — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:32:45 -0000

Tommy

You dont really think Texas is going undefeated do you?

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Tommy_Trojan — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:32:17 -0000

UofSC:

This looks real good. You've done a great job. I can assure you though, for a fact, that the PAC 10 has played a tougher level of competition than any other conference has. Is the PAC 10 down this year? Yes, they are. They are currently rated as about the 5th toughest conference overall for this particular year. I would surmise, and watch out for Bowl season, because there are about three teams in here that are improving drastically every week.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Tommy_Trojan — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:29:04 -0000

UofSC1978:

Several other coaches have been contesting that talent since time began. The only two guys who ever made an impact were Don James at Washington and Terry Donahue at UCLA. Those guys have been long gone for years.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Greathaze — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:24:03 -0000

Tommy Trojan:

I think everyone in the nation would agree that USC has some of the best talent and best coaches in the nation. year after year they have by far the best freshman coming in. It seems like usc is always getting atleast 25 % of the top 100 prospects every year. so they're probably getting about 25 players from the top 100, and that number could even be higher. so that leaves about 75 (give or take 5) projected top 100 players to all the other teams in the country. On top of that, it seems that they are putting 4 to 5 players in the 1st round of the nfl draft every year. When ever ur bringing in the best talent and then shipping out the best talent into the nfl every year, then u better be one of the best and most talented team in the nation. Now after saying all of that, i just can not understand why a team that has the best freshman and atleast 4 future 1st round picks doesnt just dominate every team every game. Sure, they will beat 90% of the teams they play by 50, but why is it that they always, or atleast since 2005 seem to blow it in conference play. Losing to teams that are not even in the top 25 and sometimes teams not even in the top 50. losing to stanford last year would be like texas or oklahoma losing to baylor, or like florida or lsu losses to mississippi st.. Which hasnt happend the them in i dunno how long. So when ever they do lose one games its always hard for usc to get into the bsc championship, and it should be. look at the pac 10. U say ur a football expert and u act like u know alot. and im sure u do. But even you ( a true college football fan) can say that the pac 10 is probably one of the 2 or 3 weakest conferences in the bcs conferences. Really, just look at the rankings. You have the big 12 who have 6 teams in the top 25 and 4 of them are in the top 7. wow thats unbelievable. and then u have the sec who has 5 teams in the 25. Even the big 10 has 3 teams in the top 25, and up untill just this week usc was the one and only top 25 team outta the pac 10, and now u have cal who is like 25 or 24. Why would u try and say that usc should be looked at first out of all the one loss teams. Really i think they should be looked at after all the big 12 and sec teams that have one loss. oh and by the way im not sure if its the mountain west or the wac or whatever but whatever conference that tcu, byu, and utah, that small conference has more top 25 teams then the pac 10. It just shows that usc is a monopoly on the west coast. They recieve all the best talent every year, but seem to blow it against standford or other weak teams year after year. Man with a team that is mostly soon to be nfl players playing against teams that maybe just maybe might have 1 st round talent on the team and maybe just a couple future nfl players. its like taking a minor league nfl team and playing them against the stanfords of the world. They should never lose those games, and if they do lose those games then they shouldnt be invited to the bcs championship, im sorry but i dont want to watch a team that lost to stanford or whatever weak team play against the cream of the crop outta the big 12 and sec. ohio st. has shown that flaws of the big ten and pac 10 the last 2 years. ohio st. is alittle like usc in the fact that in the last 3 years the have by far been the dominate team in the conference. theyve had the best talent and beat every team convincenly, kinda like usc does. but then ohio st. goes to the championship with 0 losses or 1 loss after playing and beating all the weak teams in the conference by alot (just like usc) and they go up against a sec team. and what has happened the last 2 years. This team that was just so talented and just ran through their conferences got blown outta the water 2 years in a row by teams that werent even undefeted. Sorry for the rant but everyone is tired of hearing how much talent a teams has, and even though they have lost a game their still the best and they should get a shot at the championship even though they only have 1 (ohio st.) top 25 team they have to play all year. i dont care what u look like on paper but the fact is that usc already blow their chance and now its to late cuz theirs no good teams left for them to play to make a point. so lets see a good bcs championship for once and lets get a sec team florida vs a big 12 team texas. Oh and by the way tommy. i do live in texas and i am a huge huge texas fan, and the single greatest moment of my sporting life was the bcs champion ship in 2005. Do u remember. ill remind you. Usc, the best team of all time, they havent lost a game in 3 years, and they have the last two heismen trophy winners on the same team. wow 2 of the last 2 college mvps are on the same team and on the team that has the best surrounding players to play beside those 2 great players. and then they played a big 12 school, texas, who had not one mvp on the team, was not being called the best team in the history of college football. they went all the way to ur house, played in cali. which was basically a road game and played the best team every with the 2 best college football players in the nation. Guess what happen. texas and i mean vince young took yall out. shut everyone of those high and mighty usc fans up. he just showed how much better he was then everyone on usc's teams including their two mvps. That day was they start of the world noticing that the pac 10 wasnt all that great. well good luck this year, maybe you can pull off a win against stanford this year. atleast you still have something to look forward too.

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

JB — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:21:28 -0000

That has to do with the weakness of your conference schedule. And i am pretty sure that USC is highly favored among the media. Think about it ..they didnt even play in the NCG in 2004 and they somehow were AP National Champions.....sounds like favortism to me

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

Ben Prather — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:00:25 -0000

Utah vs Florida looks good to me!

Re: Unofficial BCS standings - Week 7

U.of S.C.1978 — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:22:12 -0000

Like the rest of the nation, I recognize how all the major talent in a ten team conference, has been concentrated,at one school. All that I am saying, is that inevitably, parity will see usc west ,sucking the hind teat. Mark my words boy. Several other coaches, will eventually contest for that talent.