Two Oklahoma teams in the top 5, has that ever happened ????
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
OU_Ron:
No, and it never will happen. Either way - one of them won't be in the Top Five when it's all said and done. I can't understand why Oklahoma State has risen - when Missouri has been exposed as a complete joke. Who else has Oklahoma State beaten?
JaredIsKing
· 1 year ago
Who has USC beaten...the joke that is ohio st? Who has Ok St lost to? Let's see, no one. Who has USC lost to? Oregon St, maybe?
You're a smart one; that's for sure.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
JaredIsJanitor:
USC has played the 13th most difficult schedule in the country right now. That rates higher than any other team in the Top Ten. Texas is about 24th and Georgia is about 22nd. Oklahoma State has played the 87th most difficult schedule. Their day is on the way.
JaredIsKing
· 1 year ago
Any reasonable person would agree that a schedule that includes wins over Oklahoma and Missouri is a tad more impressive than one with wins over Ohio St and and a bunch of Pac-10 scrubs.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Were in the world did you come up with this Crap, Did it come out of the back end of a bull or a beaver? Texas has the #24th toughest schedule- Do What?? They play 4 top ten teams 7 ranked opponents probably the #1 toughest schedule in the country period Stanford,Org st, AZ, AZ st, Cal, UCLA,tOSU,UVa or FAU,UTEP,Rice,Ark,Colo,OU,Missu,OK St,TTech,KU,BU,A&M KU or Missu again no comparison Tommie
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Tomcat:
This is gonna be hard to understand - but I'll do the best I can. Texas has played Florida Atlantic, UTEP, Arkansas, Rice and Colorado. All five of those lousy teams are on the schedule. Therefore, they count as part of the schedule strength. That's why your overall schedule is ranked around 24th. And, 24th isn't too bad. In fact - it's pretty good. Figure that there are 120 Division I teams - and that puts you in the Top 20%. With the brutal schedule that Texas will now be playing - that SOS should continue to rise. Texas should be in the Top Ten in the SOS before it's all over.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Thanks Tommie for your explaination, however the true SOS can only be determined after the season is over. Who would have ever thought that Arkansas or Colorado would have ever been considered lousy? Both had good 07 seasons Ark knocking off LSU and Colo knocking off OU and TTech and dont knock Rice or FAU, Rice has improved alot beat S Miss and FAU were the 07 Sunbelt champs. UTEP aint exactly Chatanooga and although they got hammered by Tulsa, they did beat UCF. I was just curious as how you got this info?
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Tomcat:
Your right. The SOS will flucuate all year long. It will stay pretty consistent from here on out. Playing bad teams does bring it down - just as playing good teams will bring it back up. I'm just using the "Sagarin Ratings" at www.sagarin.com. I think he's by far the most accurate. Some of the other "BCS Computer Rankings" are just wrong. Some have Boise at # 4. Others have Ohio State at # 4 or Ball State at # 9. They are just ridiculous. Sagarin's are always in "the ballpark". They may be a little off - but not much.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
As loathe as I am to admit it, Ohio State is looking better now and is almost back into the top 10.
I am not ready to argue that USC is not better than Utah, but I am also not ready to argue that Utah is better than LSU.
I'll take it, and quote it, but not defend it.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Great comeback-Dude Hookem-Horns
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
Oklahoma St beat BU a team that destroyed Wash St and IA St
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Tomcat:
What's up with this rant? Baylor, Washington State and Iowa State all suck. What's that prove - that two of them are in the Big 12? Is that your point? Does this somehow make Oklahoma State into a Top Ten team? You better just hope that they're not. Don't worry. I'm sure that they are not. Don't get me wrong, they are good, but you've got to be real good to be Top Ten. My guess is that they'll end up at around 9-3 before bowl game time.
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
BU is 3-4 so far this season, wonder what their SOS is, I'll check myself later Face UCONN, WAKE,OU,UT,OK St and TTech in the same season, They might beat Neb & A&M these guys dont suck they compete week in and week out against some of the best in the nation
dave
· 1 year ago
Best oklahoma team offense is the Tulsa Hurricanes
Mr2Bits
· 1 year ago
I'm still not seeing how in the realm of possibilities that USC is in the top ten.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Mr2Bits:
It can't be done when you don't have a brain. Maybe you ought to get yourself back on the "yellow brick road". Your appointment with "the Great Oz" awaits you.
Mr2Bits
· 1 year ago
Ill hold my tongue until you drop another game this season most likely to the Irish. You are case in point why most people hate USC on this board.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
Mr2Bits:
No, you hate USC because you are a loser and can't stand anything that is good. I'm not gonna go on with everything that makes you up psychologically, but the reason you hate USC so much, is probably got to do with some form of ineptness inside of yourself.
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
Can't we, as college football fans, all get along?
GA_Boy
· 1 year ago
Get used to Mr2BIts. If there are no undefeated teams, USC is in the thing. "Did you see them put 69 points on Washington St? Sanchez and the boys have it rolling in Los Angeles (in my best Brent Musberger voice)." Nevermind that 3 other teams have laid more than 60 points on the pathetic Cougers. Washington St should seriosly think about cancelling their football program. Anyway, Tommie T will tell you how PC called off the Trojans or they could have scored 100 points so that's why they should be in the BCS championship game.
Kevin @ Fanblogs
· 1 year ago
Just for grins - Wazzu has allowed 60-plus points to 4 of its first 5 Pac-10 opponents this season and lost those games by an average of 52 points. The Washington State win did nothing to help USC in the computers.
Tommy_Trojan
· 1 year ago
GA_Boy:
Fact is: Washington State has the worst defense I've seen in a long time. They need to get rid of that head coach. This is the most hapless WSU team ever. And, yes, Pete did leave some points on the table. This was purely a practice game. It means nothing.
USC honk
· 1 year ago
I agree.....when things shake out...we will do quite nicely....minus Oregon State
1Tomcat
· 1 year ago
That was a tragedy in the Making, Wash St got destroyed by Baylor a team that OK State beat Hookem-Horns
Daniel
· 1 year ago
And it has nothing to do with being in the PAC 10 without any competition. If they were in Big 12 or Big 10. more likely be in top 20.
GeauxTigers0107
· 1 year ago
Anyone know what time the "official" BCS rankings come out today?
Kev, hope you're enjoying yourself, which it sounds like you are.
Geaux Tigers Geaux SEC
PennState
· 1 year ago
1:15 pm EST, bro!
FishMartin
· 1 year ago
I'm also interested in what time comes out. Can't wait to see BYU out of the top 25... go Utes!
FishMartin
· 1 year ago
"The first BCS official standings will be unveiled Sunday during the NFL postgame show on FOX."
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
8 PM eastern we will know for sure.
I disagree with one thing in the above analysis.
If Utah beats TCU, TCU is out, but if Utah loses to TCU in a close game they both could end up in the top 14, especially when one considers Utah would have a chance to redeem themselves against BYU.
Bev
· 1 year ago
Clemson Joe wherer'd you go ---you're ususally number 1 comment on this blog whatever the topic.. Are you still mulling the benfits of SC football aka "As a side note, Dabo has moved Billy Napier and Jeff Scott (if you follow SC high school football, you'd know this guy does amazing things with offenses) up into the booth to help him call plays on Saturday. With those 3, I full expect to see some drastic improvements to this offense. I doubt that it can happen in one week, but we'll see." As we see this is not SC high school football , got some bad calls, but there were some major improvements and even CH redeemed himself on a few. Have to give Korn credit pacifying a very uncomfortable situation. But wow on Kelly---we have hope---I'm still looking for a Speweik-Kelly connection. Yeah Dabo--GO CLEMSON..---you ask what this comment has to do with BCS standings---nothing ---Just wanted to say --YEAH CLEMSON.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Actually a few more things stand out now that I look carefully.
The AQ spot for the BCS non-AQ conferences is limited to one team, so only one of Utah, TCU, Boise State, BYU, Ball State or Tulsa can claim it. Utah and TCU control thier own destiny. BYU can get a shot by beating Utah with a Boise State loss. Only the highest ranked conference champion of this group gets an AQ spot, if in the top 12 or in the top 16 and Higher than the ACC or Big East Champion.
I would argue that Oklahoma State and Texas Tech also control their own destiny. With unlikely wins over both Texas and Oklahoma they would pass Penn State. They also play each other.
Florida and Georgia, with a win over each other and Alabama in the SEC championship, could jump over Penn State as well, though this would require a few ugly close wins by Penn State or a good dose of style points.
If this standing were final the selections would be (using top ranked team as conference champion):
AQ: Rule #1) Texas, Alabama Rule #2) Penn State, USC, South Florida, Georgia Tech? Rule #3) Utah Rule #4) Oklahoma
At Large (2 slots): SEC) One of: Georgia, Florida, LSU Big 10) Ohio State Other) Boise State
The likelyhood of all three of Texas, Alabama and Penn State finising undefeated is negligable. I still like Oklahoma's chances without even going to the Big 12 championship game.
Oklahoma Penn State is not an unreasonable lineup.
bevo
· 1 year ago
usc=overrated. ohio state =overrated. the play in pansy conferences and unless penn state wins by two touch downs, they are overrated. ill take, ut, ou, and osu against any team in the pac 10. missouri wasn;t exposed as a bad team, they were just shalacked by a very good team. they could play with any team in the pac 10 and probably any team in the big ten.
USC honk
· 1 year ago
USC losing to Oregon State did suck...2 weeks off in the first 4 weeks sure didn't help when you are starting an inexperienced QB...the system is what it is...not perfect...you lose early...and you can recover...lose late..and you are done...always been that way..
bamafan
· 1 year ago
Th way Bama played on Saturday they do not need to be ranked in the top five. I have been a fan of Bama for more than 30 years, they are still my team, but we need to learn how to put teams away when we should.
Kevin @ Fanblogs
· 1 year ago
Here's some stupidness: Penn State loses to Ohio State or Michigan State. PSU ends up as an at-large selection in the Orange Bowl against ACC champ... Florida State. We could get Vince McMahon involved and make it a loser-leave-town, steel cage career match. ;-)
Average Joe Theorem:
· 1 year ago
Please allow me to introduce the Average Joe Theorem: What began as a hypothesis has become a theorem and soon to be proven as the Law of Average Joes. The Average Joe Theorem states: A Conference of SEC and Big 12 is nothing more than a bunch of Average Joe's forming a conference of their own, so that they may play no one other than themselves and a few Div I - AA teams for a single purpose of identifying the Ultimate Average Joe. And if that isnt enough, they match the two best average Joes at the end of the season. To prove this point, SEC and Big 12 is the only conference that would be proud to say they returned 12 players from last year's 7-5 season and expect to win their conference (because 7-5 is a rebuilding year). In any other conference, it is said that if you return a bunch of losers from a 7-5 season, you have nothing more than a bunch of losers that cant do better than 7-5. In the SEC, O'Miss beats FL, FL beats LSU, LSU beats O'Miss...but...Florida and LSU somehow should be crowned. Average Joes dude. Average Joes
GameCocksFan
· 1 year ago
I do believe Bama should be punished slightly for not killing Ol' Miss, but remember, Ol' Miss is one of the best offenses in the SEC. They beat Florida. They are coached by Houston Nutt (Arkansas coach last year). As the season has progressed this is my top ten:
Texas, Penn State, Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Florida, Oklahoma, Southern Cal, and Ohio State
As for strength in schedule, unless you are in the SEC or Big 12 you can't talk about your schedule without feeling shame. There is no comparison this year, so just on conference scheduling, the SEC and Big 12 are far superior. Granted, there wasn't any conference play in the big 12 for the first four to five weeks, so their scheduled play for those weeks were pretty weak; however these past two weeks have produced huge Big 12 conference games. When was the last time you could say that about the PAC 10. I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't try to build SoCal up on its schedule, you wont convince anyone. They are a solid team that needs to make up some ground if they want the invite to the big dance.
Bamadude
· 1 year ago
Mizzou is a complete JOKE!!!! Texas kicked them all over the field last night. I cant believe they were ever ranked in the top ten. They looked like a youth league football team. I think Texas just got bored and ended up letting them score.
mbajacobs
· 1 year ago
Missouri would have to go out and rent a defense before you could say that they would play with any team in the PAC10 or BIG10. They gave up 42 to an Illinois team that is struggling to score 20 against the good teams in the BIG10 (24 against PSU with a late excuse me touchdown).
Hotty_Toddy
· 1 year ago
The Rebels are definately better than the record shows, and we have everything we need to easily be 7-0 or at least 6-1 right now. The problem is mentality. We're still very fragile mentally, and thats something that takes a season or two to recover from, maximum. They have to start BELIEVING they can win, and then they will. In the meantime, i'm patient -- and trying to not to have a stroke after watching our receiver break from his route wrong on the 4th and 5 play.
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
We? The problem is on the field. They are not winning the games!
Hotty_Toddy
· 1 year ago
..Can you not make the connection that the reason they're not winning is because we've been on a drought since 2004, and just now getting back up on our feet? They have to learn how to win, and believe they can win.
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
I am just messin' with you. I always wonder when fans refer to their teams they say "WE". By the way I was born in Meridian, Mississippi.
ROLLTIDE_73
· 1 year ago
Hey lennie How long did you live In merridian?.....Just wondering im from Montgomery Al.We played Merridian a few years times in football In the early 90's.
Lennie Collins
· 1 year ago
Rolltide...I was born there in the year of 1,968 and left in 1,977. I went back in 2,004 for a family reunion!
Hotty_Toddy
· 1 year ago
Interpretation:
He's old.
;)
ROLLTIDE_73
· 1 year ago
Ok I was just wondering if you grew up there then moved. thought maybe we had played ball against each other.
Hotty_Toddy
· 1 year ago
Its just a connection you make when you've been raised on it your whole life. Lots of my family are alums from Ole Miss, and alot of my friends do/have play(ed) on the team.
Paul S
· 1 year ago
I would match up Penn State against any team in the country. Do you people not watch college game day. Corrso and Kirk both agree that Penn State is the best over all team in the nation. As everyone knows Corrso does not like PSU at all. So for him to say that is something. They have put up no less than 38 points a game and averaging 45/game. I do think that Texas deserves the #1 spot and yes Alabama at #2. But to say USC is going to win out and get invited to the BCS championship game is just stupid. Come on USC lost to Oregon State. Penn State crushed Oregon State. I agree the Big 10 is having a down year, but that does not take away from just how good Penn State is. Plus who, other than USC, is even worth talking about in the PAC-10? I would put Big 10 against the PAC-10 any day. GO PSU!!!
All Comments
No, and it never will happen. Either way - one of them won't be in the Top Five when it's all said and done. I can't understand why Oklahoma State has risen - when Missouri has been exposed as a complete joke. Who else has Oklahoma State beaten?
You're a smart one; that's for sure.
USC has played the 13th most difficult schedule in the country right now. That rates higher than any other team in the Top Ten. Texas is about 24th and Georgia is about 22nd. Oklahoma State has played the 87th most difficult schedule. Their day is on the way.
Texas has the #24th toughest schedule- Do What??
They play 4 top ten teams 7 ranked opponents
probably the #1 toughest schedule in the country period
Stanford,Org st, AZ, AZ st, Cal, UCLA,tOSU,UVa or
FAU,UTEP,Rice,Ark,Colo,OU,Missu,OK St,TTech,KU,BU,A&M KU or Missu again no comparison Tommie
This is gonna be hard to understand - but I'll do the best I can. Texas has played Florida Atlantic, UTEP, Arkansas, Rice and Colorado. All five of those lousy teams are on the schedule. Therefore, they count as part of the schedule strength. That's why your overall schedule is ranked around 24th. And, 24th isn't too bad. In fact - it's pretty good. Figure that there are 120 Division I teams - and that puts you in the Top 20%. With the brutal schedule that Texas will now be playing - that SOS should continue to rise. Texas should be in the Top Ten in the SOS before it's all over.
Your right. The SOS will flucuate all year long. It will stay pretty consistent from here on out. Playing bad teams does bring it down - just as playing good teams will bring it back up. I'm just using the "Sagarin Ratings" at www.sagarin.com. I think he's by far the most accurate. Some of the other "BCS Computer Rankings" are just wrong. Some have Boise at # 4. Others have Ohio State at # 4 or Ball State at # 9. They are just ridiculous. Sagarin's are always in "the ballpark". They may be a little off - but not much.
I am not ready to argue that USC is not better than Utah, but I am also not ready to argue that Utah is better than LSU.
I'll take it, and quote it, but not defend it.
Hookem-Horns
What's up with this rant? Baylor, Washington State and Iowa State all suck. What's that prove - that two of them are in the Big 12? Is that your point? Does this somehow make Oklahoma State into a Top Ten team? You better just hope that they're not. Don't worry. I'm sure that they are not. Don't get me wrong, they are good, but you've got to be real good to be Top Ten. My guess is that they'll end up at around 9-3 before bowl game time.
Face UCONN, WAKE,OU,UT,OK St and TTech in the same season, They might beat Neb & A&M these guys dont suck they compete week in and week out against some of the best in the nation
It can't be done when you don't have a brain. Maybe you ought to get yourself back on the "yellow brick road". Your appointment with "the Great Oz" awaits you.
No, you hate USC because you are a loser and can't stand anything that is good. I'm not gonna go on with everything that makes you up psychologically, but the reason you hate USC so much, is probably got to do with some form of ineptness inside of yourself.
Nevermind that 3 other teams have laid more than 60 points on the pathetic Cougers. Washington St should seriosly think about cancelling their football program. Anyway, Tommie T will tell you how PC called off the Trojans or they could have scored 100 points so that's why they should be in the BCS championship game.
Fact is: Washington State has the worst defense I've seen in a long time. They need to get rid of that head coach. This is the most hapless WSU team ever. And, yes, Pete did leave some points on the table. This was purely a practice game. It means nothing.
Hookem-Horns
Kev, hope you're enjoying yourself, which it sounds like you are.
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
I disagree with one thing in the above analysis.
If Utah beats TCU, TCU is out, but if Utah loses to TCU in a close game they both could end up in the top 14, especially when one considers Utah would have a chance to redeem themselves against BYU.
Are you still mulling the benfits of SC football aka "As a side note, Dabo has moved Billy Napier and Jeff Scott (if you follow SC high school football, you'd know this guy does amazing things with offenses) up into the booth to help him call plays on Saturday. With those 3, I full expect to see some drastic improvements to this offense. I doubt that it can happen in one week, but we'll see."
As we see this is not SC high school football , got some bad calls, but there were some major improvements and even CH redeemed himself on a few. Have to give Korn credit pacifying a very uncomfortable situation. But wow on Kelly---we have hope---I'm still looking for a Speweik-Kelly connection. Yeah Dabo--GO CLEMSON..---you ask what this comment has to do with BCS standings---nothing ---Just wanted to say --YEAH CLEMSON.
The AQ spot for the BCS non-AQ conferences is limited to one team, so only one of Utah, TCU, Boise State, BYU, Ball State or Tulsa can claim it. Utah and TCU control thier own destiny. BYU can get a shot by beating Utah with a Boise State loss. Only the highest ranked conference champion of this group gets an AQ spot, if in the top 12 or in the top 16 and Higher than the ACC or Big East Champion.
I would argue that Oklahoma State and Texas Tech also control their own destiny. With unlikely wins over both Texas and Oklahoma they would pass Penn State. They also play each other.
Florida and Georgia, with a win over each other and Alabama in the SEC championship, could jump over Penn State as well, though this would require a few ugly close wins by Penn State or a good dose of style points.
If this standing were final the selections would be (using top ranked team as conference champion):
AQ:
Rule #1) Texas, Alabama
Rule #2) Penn State, USC, South Florida, Georgia Tech?
Rule #3) Utah
Rule #4) Oklahoma
At Large (2 slots):
SEC) One of: Georgia, Florida, LSU
Big 10) Ohio State
Other) Boise State
The likelyhood of all three of Texas, Alabama and Penn State finising undefeated is negligable. I still like Oklahoma's chances without even going to the Big 12 championship game.
Oklahoma Penn State is not an unreasonable lineup.
ohio state =overrated.
the play in pansy conferences and unless penn state wins by two touch downs, they are overrated. ill take, ut, ou, and osu against any team in the pac 10. missouri wasn;t exposed as a bad team, they were just shalacked by a very good team. they could play with any team in the pac 10 and probably any team in the big ten.
Texas, Penn State, Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Florida, Oklahoma, Southern Cal, and Ohio State
As for strength in schedule, unless you are in the SEC or Big 12 you can't talk about your schedule without feeling shame. There is no comparison this year, so just on conference scheduling, the SEC and Big 12 are far superior. Granted, there wasn't any conference play in the big 12 for the first four to five weeks, so their scheduled play for those weeks were pretty weak; however these past two weeks have produced huge Big 12 conference games. When was the last time you could say that about the PAC 10. I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't try to build SoCal up on its schedule, you wont convince anyone. They are a solid team that needs to make up some ground if they want the invite to the big dance.
He's old.
;)