DISQUS

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

Where it really gets interesting, is what would happen if I put my homer glasses on. A two-loss UF beating Alabama in the SECCG would really upset that apple cart. Under that scenario, it's possible to see Texas-Oklahoma in the NCG or something potentially more shocking.

For those that love the chaos and believe it will lead to the end of the BCS, you -- my friends -- just became FSU fans.

florido · 1 year ago

No way the Gators lose to the Seminos

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

Well... let's put it this way... they had better not or it is really going to cost them. Florida State has nothing to lose and the Gators are in a must-win. That's a classic rivalry storyboard.

Wardboy3 · 1 year ago

But it got f-ed up this week b/c they just had to rank us. If we were unranked I would have liked out chances a lot more.

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Nope, I'm a fan of chaos, but not of FSU (this week). I'll be cheering for Virginia this week. Go Cavaliers!!

Homerism aside, we've been down this path before and the BCS voters accepted temporary controversy and passed on sending two teams from the same conference to the CG (2006: Ohio State and Michigan) and it all worked out in the bowls. :-) Even as strong as the Big 12 South is, I can't see the BCS voters performing an act of self-immolation that would certainly demolish the BCS and their authority as voters.

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

...also, if FSU upsets UF and UF beats Bama, I'm pretty sure the BCS will send Southern Cal to the CG and not a second Big 12 South team.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

If USC loses to ND or UCLA would they send Utah?

While I believe Utah may jump USC this week, I do think USC retakes the lead with a win or two while Utah sits idle.

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

That's a good point. I would certainly hope the Utes would get a title shot from the BCS, though after yesterday (Syracuse > ND) it's hard to imagine the Trojans losing to the Irish.

UF is going to be a two touchdown+ favorite over FSU when the line opens, but these two schools have a long, weird history for knocking each other out of title contention in the last 20 years. I'm hoping the Gators don't get overconfident on the ride to Tallahassee.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

Oh c'mon... enough with the humility. All I've been reading is how FSU doesn't deserve to be on the same field with Florida.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Your ruining my dream season...

Let me enjoy the possibility that your team can pull off the big upset until they prove me wrong.

I must say I would like your odds better if you were not ranked. Ranked ACC teams have not done well this year.

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

I'm a natural skeptic with a good memory. The "Choke at Doak" has not faded from my mind, 14 years after the fact. It's not humility, it's fear. ;-)

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

Nonsense. I hope they keep writing it and both teams keep reading it. ;-)

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

If Utah plays 'Bama in the Sugar, you guys have me rooting for y'all to kick some crimson booty. Utah ...... BEAT the crimson tide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! L.S.U. is my favorite team and anyone playing Alabama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Geaux L.S.U. and Go Utah!!!!!!!!!

"BC" · 1 year ago

honestly, i think there's a better chance of Auburn beating Alabama, then Alabama beating Florida.
but, either way would ruin the college football post-season.

or wait, would Alabama still have a NC spot if that happened?

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

A one loss Alabama, with two of Oklahoma, Texas and Florida losing is an interesting combination...

Indeed if three of Oklahoma, Texas, Alabama and Florida lose, things will be interesting.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

Only if they got the same 'LSU' treatment from last year...

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

I thought of that possibility of Auburn beating Alabama, then Alabama beating Florida. It's not very likely, though. But, with Auburn vs. Alabama, anything is possibility no matter how big a favorite one is over the other team. But, your prediction is a possibility, in deed. However, Alabama beating Auburn, then Alabama beating Florida is highly, highly unlikely. If you want to see a great college football team, look at Florida. They're not just good. They're GREAT; and, to add to that, they're a VERY ANGRY AND FOCUSED COLLEGE FOOTBALL TEAM!!! And that's an understatement, too. Florida vs. Oklahoma in the National Championship game, I believe, is correct with Florida being the victor in a close game.

"BC" · 1 year ago

i can't believe it, but i agree with everything you just said.

Porcine · 1 year ago

What crazy person would be up this late?

"BC" · 1 year ago

a crazy person on the college night-life schedule that is now at home for thanksgiving

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

B.C., Thanks; But, what can't you believe about it? Is it that you just can't believe that you agree with me .... period? Is it just that you can't believe you agree with me that Floirda will most likely beat Alabama? Just let me know exactly what you can't believe. Once again; thanks!!!!!!!!!

"BC" · 1 year ago

i just cant believe im agreeing with an LSU fan.
i guess youre not all like TE

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

No; I'm not like T.E. at all, except that I am a huge L.S.U. fan (This is a real Understatement too!!!). as he seems to be also. I just see it like it seems to be realistically. Sometimes, I'm wrong and sometimes, I'm right. I guess that's true with everybody though. Hehehehehehehe ........ So, I'm not like T.E. probably in anyway except that we both really love the Tiger's. So, Geaux Tigers!!!! (L.S.U. is) We're down this year, but we'll be back, I'm pretty sure of that too. I'm probably just a little (Shshshshsh ............................. alot) more mature than T.E. is too.

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

I said a few weeks ago that it's possible to see Texas/OU in the NCG, but got pounded by a fan or two, it's really not that far fetched.................On a side note " GO NOLES "

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

I can accept the argument that Texas and OU are the two best teams in the NCAA, but I don't see a realistic scenario for both going to the BCSNCG. How's this for promoting a playoff system?

#1 - There isn't a precedent for sending two teams from the same conference to the CG.

#2 - There isn't a precendent for sending a team that didn't win their conference.

#3 - Regarding the super-conferences (Big-12, ACC, and SEC), there isn't a precedent for sending a team that wasn't invited to their conference championship game.

The most rational argument for a playoff - the two best teams in America may not be playing for the title.

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

For #2 & #3, I think they're ripe to establish that precedent real soon:

2006 --heavy lobbying for rematch of Ohio State and Michigan in the BCS CG...

2007--grumblings about Georgia getting left out, possibly even jumping conference champ LSU, even though Georgia didn't attend conference CG...

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Dude, this is unreal!

I'm taking the conservative viewpoint (i.e. these are principles that won't be violated) and you're taking the liberal/progressive viewpoint (i.e. these things are "ripe" for change).

What's going on here??!! :-)

War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago

No, RG, I wasn't advocating anything, I was just giving you my observations--with no spin!!!

You know how fair and balanced I am...

:-)

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

In all seriousness, your 2007 example is a good one (IMHO), but I'd argue that the BCS worked out well in 2006 (and not just from a homerific perspective).

FSU_Ben · 1 year ago

It did sort of work out in the end I agree BUT -- Florida should not have played in the national championship game from the perspective that they earned thier first national championship by REPLAYING A TEAM THAT HAD BEATEN THEM IN THE REGULAR SEASON. Michigan was asking for the same shot having lost by a smaller margin @OSU (Then florida lost @FSU in 1996). Either way Urban argued it, florida should only have one national championship (I grant the BCS did not exist then but that line of argument is a double edged blade as well, I would argue that we have a way to put Michigan in the game and didn't).

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

Good points, but as you acknowledged, the BCS didn't exist in 1996 so the contradiction with the 2006 season is a bit of an apples/oranges comparison. Prior to 1998, there was not a "coordinated" effort to select the top two teams to play each other in a bowl game. In fact, FSU was ranked #1 in 96, but UF was not ranked #2 going into the Sugar Bowl. The fact that they played each other twice had more to do with AP rankings and the Sugar Bowl committee than any effort toward a national title.

I do feel your pain, though. There's a chance that FSU and GT will be playing each other AGAIN in the ACC title game. While I'm sure all FSU fans want another crack at GT, all us GT fans are happily sufficed with the existing W and don't want to risk a split. :-)

FSU_Ben · 1 year ago

As it stands VT needs to lose one more game I think... Virginia has a streak of losses not unsimilar to the GT-Georgia string. Maybe both teams will break that this year (I like GT and Georgia so I find it hard to root for either team and both beat FSU last time they played).

gator joe · 1 year ago

during UF - fsu game abc had to show highlights of charlie ward years to remind viewers @ one time fsu had a decent team( bowden needs to go) still not a bad team for the ACC (ALL CUP CAKE CONF)

Chris · 1 year ago

I will be ok with both going so long as one of them is the champion of their conference. Have no problem if both teams are ranked 1 & 2 nationally. What would NOT be good is if the team left out of the Big 12 championship game somehow elevates to the BCS title game because the higher ranked Big 12 team loses in the Big 12 CG.

It could happen if Missouri upsets a once beaten Texas or Oklahoma in Big 12 championship game. If memory serves me correctly, a few years back Texas or Texas A&M defeated Kansas State in the Big 12 CG which allowed Nebraska to jump into the BCSNCG

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

RG, I was in no way saying that OU and Tex are the two best teams out there, I was simply saying that it was possible for those teams to play in the NCG....I honestly think Florida is the best on both sides of the ball.......however I do think OU and Texas can match Florida on offense, but we both know you have to have an excellent defense to go all the way......but it sure would be fun to find out...

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

I didn't mean to suggest you were claiming this (sorry for the vague wording). Actually, I was suggesting that UT and OU may be the best teams.

I'm basing this on something Lee Corso said he heard from Vegas oddsmakers: the four best teams are Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, and USCw (in no particular order). This is my opinion too, though there are a few more games to play before I'll be defending this as anything more than my opinion.

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

I know what you mean RG, we still have at least one more game to play against the Oklahoma Aggies, and it's not going to be easy, especially when it's in their house....if we can get by those guys then I'll be ready to form an opinion........I guess I'm a pessimist...:-)

Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago

I would like that as well OU ron. Would Tech get an at large berth if both NC teams come from the same conference????????

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

TT, I'm pretty sure nothing like that could happen, but don't give up on your team, we still have to play Okie State, and as you know, anything can happen....

Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago

That team that played Saturday night blows OK state out of the water, and everyone else in the country including Florida, and I have not given up on the BCS, just the NC.

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

I would like to agree with you, but the truth of it all is, the offense usually shows up every game, but the defense is another story.......if the same defense that played Saturday night shows up, it's gonna be a very long night for Ag's........if not, well I can handle the Cotton bowl..

gohorns1012 · 1 year ago

ryan reynolds out for season killed ou, but i think the d is getting better weekly

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

It sure hurt in the texas game, but Box is doing a good job now, we should be ok at that position....

USC1801 · 1 year ago

FSU beat Florida?? You've got to be kidding. NDame has a better chance of playing in the Gator Bowl than FSU winning over Florida. (Have I jinxed them yet?? I mean, I did mention NDame. . . that should help.)

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

As an SEC fan, you're a complete disgrace.

USC1801 · 1 year ago

LOL! Now, now, you should talk. . . a GT and Gator combination. Hey, I'm all for the good of the whole. But seriously, NO WAY FSU is going to beat Florida. And if it helps,

GOOOOOoooooooo SEC!!

USC1801 · 1 year ago

LOL! Now, now, you should talk. . . a GT and Gator combination. Hey, I'm all for the good of the whole. But seriously, NO WAY FSU is going to beat Florida. And if it helps,

GOOOOOoooooooo SEC!!

USC1801 · 1 year ago

LOL! Now, now, you should talk. . . a GT and Gator combination. Hey, I'm all for the good of the whole. But seriously, NO WAY FSU is going to beat Florida. And if it helps,

GOOOOOoooooooo SEC!!

USC1801 · 1 year ago

Don't ask me how this comment showed up three times. Sorry ya'll..

U.of S.C.1978 · 1 year ago

Methinks Navy better practice up for a team other than Clemson.

cctke455 · 1 year ago

As a Big East/WVU fan, I was wondering about the rule on a 6-6 team taking bowl games away from teams with winning records. I say this because WVU is in line for a Gator Bowl or Sun Bowl invite assuming they win out and defeat Pitt and USF, and it appears Notre Dame may get the invite over us. I'm not a cry baby here but a 9-3 Pat White led WVU team deserves the Gator/Sun over a 6-6 Notre Dame team that lost to Syracuse at home and Pittsburgh at home. They would be a Cellar team in our conference. If you could fine the rule on that I'd appreciate it. They are part of our conference when it comes to bowl affiliations, and I think the rule may be if they are team with winning records they must get in a bowl over a 6-6 team. and lets face it, Notre Dame is 6-5 heading to USC next week. The Big East should cut ties with these losers ASAP. The Perception is Notre Dame are world beaters yet lost to a weak syracuse team....has the thought ever crossed your mind they maybe Notre Dame is just that bad.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

The bowls may invite any team they would like, especially where the Big East is involved because all of the contracts have Notre Dame provisions. Just because the #x team normally goes to the X bowl does not mean that it is mandated. The bowls generally have a SELECTION order, not a PLACEMENT order. For example, the Gator Bowl picks third for the ACC, but doesn't have to take the #3 ACC team. Clear as mud?

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Actually, if the Big East has more than their number of bids with 7 wins, would the bowls not have to select the 7 win Big East teams over a 6-6 Notre Dame?

FSU_fan · 1 year ago

I thought the NCAA had rules concerning 6-6 teams specifically. I thought bowls could not take 6-6 over a winning record.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

The NCAA changed the eligibility requirements regarding .500 teams in 2006. 6-6 is just as eligible as 12-0.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

However, all teams over .500 must be taken before a 6-6 team can be taken.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

No... all teams over .500 must be taken before a 6-6 **AT LARGE** team may be taken. If the team's conference (or Notre Dame) has an agreement in place with the bowl in question, then a 6-6 team may be selected straight away.

Oscr · 1 year ago

This guy above me has it right...only if its an AT-LARGE bowl game, which the Sun Bowl is not.

Only if the Gator Bowl selects an ACC team does the Sun Bowl HAVE TO select a Big East team.

If the Gator Bowl selects a Big XII team, then the Sun Bowl gets to choose between going with a team in the Big East OR just Notre Dame, flat-out. Regardless if ND is 6-6, they can get chosen over a 7-5 Big East team.

I'm from El Paso. I've heard them talk about this alot in recently.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

You're mistaken on the Gator Bowl. The Gator Bowls agreements are with the ACC and then with a combo Big East/Big XII/Notre Dame. The ACC is always selected into the Gator Bowl, unless there is no ACC team available.

In other words, the Gator Bowl contract allows them to choose a Big 12 team OR a Big East team OR Notre Dame to face the ACC team.

But... you are correct... the Gator Bowl may opt for a 6-6 Notre Dame over any other Big East or Big 12 team.

That said... I feel like that Nebraska pick is much more solid.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

From NCAA BY LAW 30.9.2.1 (a) (Exceptions to bowl participants winning record requirement, regarding conference bowl contracts)

(a) The institution or its conference has a primary contractual affiliation, which existed prior to the first contest of the applicable season, with the sponsoring bowl organization. In the case of a conference contractual affiliation, all conference teams with winning records must be placed in one of the contracted bowl games before any institution with a record of six wins and six losses may be placed in a contracted bowl game. There shall be no contingency agreements with other sponsoring bowl organizations intended to enable an institution with a record of six wins and six losses to become eligible for those contests...

I would believe a higher bowl could defer a pick, forcing a lower bowl to pick a 7+ win team, if they really wanted a 6-6 team.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

I concur.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Kevin, I'm trying to understand something. The "rank" of the conference affiliations with a bowl is only the order that they must pick, and not necessarily the rank of the teams in the final conference standings, correct?

So, if Clemson is able to beat South Carolina, they will become bowl eligible. If that happens, do you really see the bowls above the Eagle Bank bowl passing on perhaps the best (if not the best then 2nd behind FSU) traveling fan base in the ACC? I'm thinking they'll want to fill seats, and taking Clemson is a good way to do that. I certainly wouldn't want the Tigers playing in Boise, or San Francisco over Washington, DC, but I just don't really think that both Nashville and Charlotte would pass on them.

Of course this is all hypothetical because the Tigers still have another tough one to win, but how do you see all of that playing out?

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

Yes, the bowl affiliations only set selection order.

I agree that FSU, Clemson, & VaTech are the most desirable fan bases on size & travel history, but you have to keep in mind that this year's selections are a total crapshoot because of the economy. Traditionally the thought has been the better the team, the more people will travel to support them.

Charlotte is very likely for UNC. Miami should be able to sell in the Champs. The Peach is the real question mark, because GT doesn't have a large base. So who does the Peach pick to sell out that Dome? GT could end up anywhere, honestly. The Peach guys traveled with FSU this week and are said to be wanting FSU/South Carolina and even FSU/Georgia, since the Noles haven't been in Atlanta since the early 1980s, so getting FSU is a priority, **if** they are ranked after the UF game. Once the Peach is set... the rest should just fall into place for the ACC.

Clemson definitely travels well, and there's a thought that the EagleBank needs someone like Clemson to add legitimacy to its inaugural game. A 6-6 Clemson team would be a great candidate and I would think that the Tiger fans will show up.

Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago

Clemson has to be 7-5 (6-5) to be bowl eligible. I agree that the Eagle Bank bowl would want a 7-5 Tiger team in Washington, DC, but I just don't think they would get passed on by the bowls ahead.

I absolutely agree about Orlando taking Miami, and I certainly see Charlotte taking North Carolina, as the Tarheel faithful would easily pack that one out. However, I just don't see Nashville passing on a 7-5 Clemson team with a new found passion.

shiguy · 1 year ago

It's actually sad for GT. I know exactly what you are talking about with their fan base. When we played them in the gator bowl the distance for them was about 1/3 of the total drive for WVU fans yet the WVU side was almost full and the GT side couldn't even fill the lower section of the stadium.

On that note.....sadly I see the same thing for Cincy. I was thinking about this the other day and as much as I would love for Cincy to make a name for themselves and take on some of the other major schools in the area (aka the instate fruits) at this point in time them winning the conference would be one of the worst things to happen. Not because they couldn't compete. I believe that who ever they faced from the ACC would be winnable. But from the stand point of fans it doesn't look good. Think about this just 2 years ago the team was at risk of loosing D1A status because they were getting scary low to the limit of average stadium attendance. Also this weekend's game against Pitt packed in a record attendance of........35,000. Just to put this in perspective Marshall's stadium holds about 40,000. So that being said as bad as the BE has had this season how is it going to look when the champion goes down to Miami with a wowing crowd of 18,000 fans. Who knows maybe they'll get more but i doubt it.

Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago

the distance for them was about 1/3 of the total drive for WVU fans

Only about 25% of GT alumni live in Georgia. In fact there are more GT alumni in CA (silicon valley) than there are in Atlanta. Add in GT's small student body and large proportion of international students (who couldn't care less about American football) and you have the whole story for the Gator Bowl and others too.

What's really sad is that with all the excitement surrounding the team this year (new coach, new offense, etc), they aren't even selling many tickets for home games, despite the fact that BDS@GF is a relatively small stadium. I may be wrong, but I believe the FSU game was the only sellout this season.

I'm sure Tech fans will again pay the price for this situation come bowl selection time.

FSU_Ben · 1 year ago

Well it should be noted that there would be more then just 18000 fans as you get locals and floridians (who love college ball almost as much as texans) who just come to see the game. They say that is as much as a third of the big bowls attendance is just football lovers. Granted better teams would attract more so pull for Maryland to beat BC and we will take care of the rest! Alternately you could pull for Syracuse to win again this weekend but wow does that seem unlikely.

shiguy · 1 year ago

What about both? I would then have to root for a VA tech win as that would actually make one of the best situations we could have with a Va Tech-WVU revival of the black diamond rivalry in the Orange bowl. sorry but I wouldn't be able to root for FSU if that was a possibility.

addicted · 1 year ago

GT as hurt really bad by the fact that we had just lost games to UGA, and more importantly, a 9-6 clunker to Wake a couple weeks earlier, in Jacksonville itself.

Also, the GT fanbase had pretty much turned away from our coach by then.

FSU_fan · 1 year ago

Um, Another florida player got arrested. I know we are all shocked to the extreme but lets get a news article about the highly touted, 4 star c ameron newton who PASSED a stolen lap top out his dorm window. Maybe we can get the yardage on that play? Goog thing the retard didn't kill a passing student.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

My policy on arrests has been pretty consistent for about 12 months. If it isn't a monumental incident, I don't want to talk about it - even if it's a Gator. Stay on the subject or go to the open threads, please.

FSU_fan · 1 year ago

The lower BCS picture will change quite a bit with an oregon state loss to oregon. That has quite a bit of potential to take place on ordinary years.

LLL · 1 year ago

In OU's last nine years under Coach Stoops they've been in nine Bowl Appearances and Lost five and Won four.... most recently losing to West Virginia, Boise State, and USC.... I'm just saying.... "Sooners....if you wind up playing Florida in the NCG.... then show up and PLAY!! ....;-)

hrposon · 1 year ago

Texas 45 - Oklahoma 35

gohorns1012 · 1 year ago

thats right, texas beat oklahoma when they were rated number1, o k state rated number 6 and what was missou rated when texas kicked them? anyway it was top 6. texas has won 3 or 4 straight bowl games including a national title. oklahoma , wow they stomped tech, at home, but i dont think they should jump texas even if they win at 12 o k state. head to head texas beat ou by 10 points, on a neutral site and that should say a lot because ou has a great team, and every year they somehow get to the big 12 championship, and win. this is the horns year. most noteably, texas' only loss was the last 9 seconds after coming back from 20something down and in the toughest place to play in the nation--------who had the better season? how many times did mac brown pull the starters and let the young guys take over, possibly costing texas style points in lopsided wins....everyone knows bob stoops loves to run up the score............anyway ou good luck with those gators ....hook-em

Jason · 1 year ago

Texas 33 - Texas Tech 39

hrposon · 1 year ago

You're right, and because Tech beat Texas in Lubbock when Mack didn't manage the clock, I believe you will beat Mizzo and go to the Fiesta Bowl.

gohorns1012 · 1 year ago

dude, have i said one bad thing about tech--hell im from midland! so what if tech won they played better and lubbock is a madhouse, i never said they shouldnt be in any game, best reciever in the nation, probably the next great nfl qb,

Mark · 1 year ago

Memphis is 5-6 and lost to UCF. Tough to think they are going anywhere.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

And you do understand that the season isn't over, right? They play Tulane next.

Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago

WHAT. Us playing #2 (as of last night) ?! We're not even ranked!

Hawkmaniac · 1 year ago

Did your little sister do these? Come on, Iowa beat Penn State, was oh so close against Michigan State, and put a beatdown on Wisconsin and then went into Minnesota and won 55 0. And your putting Wisconsin ahead of us. I think you should rethink these.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

#1 - Yeah... I probably let my little sister do these.
#2 - Good thing I did, as she realizes the Champs Bowl has the #4/5 slot for the Big10, while the Insight has the #6 slot.

Try to keep up, dude.

Potato Wagon · 1 year ago

Too bad your sister doesn't realize that Big Ten ranking have little to do with the Bowl Committee selections. I would be very surprised if Iowa went to the Champs Sports Bowl. The Outback is a strong possibility and if they don't go there they will go to the Alamo Bowl.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

OK. Got you down for "very surprised". Check back with us in a few weeks, I guess.

Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago

Lol. I wonder if these guys realize that the parody is in the Big XII South, not the SEC this year. Good thing they're Iowa fans, they would have a lot more trouble keeping up if they liked Iowa State.

deathvalley56 · 1 year ago

B.B., Overall, the best from top to bottom, I agree, is the Big 12 South. But, on the other hand, the best of them all is in the S.E.C. East, The Florida Gators. Florida over Oklahoma in N.C. Game!

TheMayor · 1 year ago

Oregon probably won't go to the Sun Bowl Kevin, they went last year. I thought the Sun Bowl would not accept a team in consecutive years...I couldn't find anything about this on their website

As much as I would like a shot at the Irish..and to see The Village People at halftime, I'll have to pass.

Also if Rodgers and Maoveo are both out this weekend for OSU, then Ducks would have a chance to beat the Beavers in Corvallis

Oscr · 1 year ago

you're exactly right.

The Sun Bowl would exercise it's NO-REPEAT CLAUSE.

I'm from El Paso and have seen this scenario happen before. It happened in the late 90s or early 2000s with a Big Ten team...AND it happened last year with Oregon St.

So, in my opinion, the Sun Bowl will chose Arizona (finishing 4th, just under Oregon). And Oregon might even slip to the Emerald Bowl instead of the Las Vegas Bowl since they've gone there alot recently.

Beaverfan · 1 year ago

ya true, but the beavers were underdogs at arizona, had two stars out, and still managed a HUGE win. Next week i think it will be the same

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

I'm not sure what provision is in place when the conference has no other teams eligible. For example, Purdue played in the Sun Bowl three out of four years in this decade, including two in a row. I don't know if the Sun can forgo a Pac10 rep if the outcome would be having to take an at-large. I presume the Pac10 would want the revenue split, so... we'll just have to wait and see.

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

1) Las Vegas Bowl: TCU is ahead of BYU in the MWC standings, but I believe the Las Vegas Bowl is released from that if the MWC champion goes to the BCS. If they have the choose to pick BYU over TCU then BYU would go.

2) Poinsettia Bowl: Talk is brewing that, unless they get an unlikely BCS BID, Boise State could go to the Poinsettia Bowl to play TCU. The WAC has a very flexible bowl arrangement that allows teams to be released from teh expected bowl arrangements, as was the case in 2004 when Boise State was released to go to the Liberty Bowl.

Nevada would then be a good fit for the Humanitarian Bowl and Fresno State could go to the New Mexico Bowl.

"W" · 1 year ago

it is good to see the MAC getting some respect this season... only prediction I can see is more tv coverage next year and the MAC will not perform like they have this year!

ADog · 1 year ago

Iowa will jump michigan state and will go to the outback bowl...Iowa travels better..Not fair I know,bit bowls given the chance do not pass on Iowa...especially in florida..They sell out tickets in record number and outback officials saw empty seats at MSU home games...the economy is terrible in the state of Michigan (worst in the country..jobs andhousing) May be a concern for a bowl reference travel.

PittsburghTiger · 1 year ago

I just don't see UF losing to the Seminoles. I think FSU is much improved but not THAT MUCH.

I know that I hate Penn State but that has nothing to do with my thinking on the lack of interest in the Rose Bowl now. That rematch just does nothing for me.

Utah against 'Bama sounds like fun. As does WVU v. UNC

Where is AU in there? oh yeah, the bowl game is this Saturday...ugh

Boise_Buster · 1 year ago

And Boise State gets to kiss its sister. Ask Oklahoma if they want to meet Boise State again. Utah deserves the BCS bid fromthe non-BCS conference. But what do you tell a 12-0 team that beat a couple of top teams this year?

Ben Prather · 1 year ago

Welcome to the Poinsettia Bowl and TCU!

FSU_Ben · 1 year ago

Indeed!

OU_Ron · 1 year ago

" But what do you tell a 12-0 team that beat a couple of top teams this year? "
Tell'em to change the color of their football field !!!

Cameron · 1 year ago

Everyone is saying that Northwestern will go to the Alamo Bowl over Iowa. They are tied in the Big Ten standings, but NW is 9-3 and Iowa is 8-4. Iowa lost to NW, but Iowa fans travel very very well. I think the Alamo Bowl will choose Iowa over NW.

Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
I stand before you a humbled man. I do not know what it was, but I know for dang sure the best team won Saturday night. It was a great atmosphere and we fell flat on our face. It was the worst performance I have seen out of this group in a long time. With that being said, even if we would have played perfect, we still would have lost. So you will not see any excuses coming out of my corner. We have proven that we cannot handle great teams on the road. I still am a firm believer that we are truly a top 10 team and did simply did not rise to the challenge. OU did. We were outplayed, and outcoached in every part of the game. Especially up front on both sides of the ball. Good game OU. You have my vote to go to the NCG if you win out.

TheMayor · 1 year ago

Tyler

Nice Man-Up on your part but the season is still not over, win out and you're a top 5 team. Did you expect any better back in August? You had the toughest road in the nation the last 3 weeks and held up admirably.

gohorns1012 · 1 year ago

thats crap....texas beat them i would rather see o k state send tech to the big 12 title then see ou get it cause they won at home........im a horns fan..tech will thrive more and more each year and probably could beat ou in lubbock. what has ou done on the road?

Kill_The_BCS · 1 year ago

At this point, it's just fun seeing this streak of bowl losses for Notre Dame. It doesn't make a difference if it's the Sun Bowl or the Gator Bowl. They'll get crushed. If they take a spot away from the Big East, big deal. That conference has had an awful year and none of the teams have a complaint about losing a Gator Bowl bid.

gobeaversosu · 1 year ago

IF Oregon State SHOULD happen to lose to Oregon next Saturaday it would be nice to go to Elpaso and whoop up on Notre "WHO" again. Although I am not sure why WE would be on the same field as them( do those words remind you of a few years ago when Notre Dame was like "Oregon State who, why are we playing a school that only seats 35K"). If my memory serves me correctly, OSU beat them handly. And again a couple years later. I don't know, but how many teams can claim a 2-0 record over the Irish?

TheMayor · 1 year ago

GBOSU

Great win Saturday! I can't believe I watched the Beavers and the Huskies...and rooted for them both!!! Goes against my nature, still what great games.

Any word on Rodgers and Maoveo playing this Saturday?

Best of luck...your Rose Bowl or our Holiday Bowl!

I put the spread at 8 for the Beavers with an over of 57...and you?

thebuckstopshere · 1 year ago

Say what you want about the BCS, but I doubt I would have been watching Oregon St. if there were a play off system in place....

By the way GO DUCKS

gobeaversosu · 1 year ago

Boy, it must be tough in your world, Mayor. I bet your guts are just turning with the thought of what you rooted for last weekend.

I think your 8 points are generous, with Quiz a maybe and sounds like thay may start Canfield (Although he did have a decent day, but some of those passes may not have got by ThurmanIII).

Last week I was ready for a rematch with Penn State but after watch the sloughter of Mich State I'm not sure I'm ready. Although I'd give Rielly the chance with 4 weeks to prepare.

Good luck Saturday and GO BEAVS

rss · 1 year ago

With the rumor of Bill Snyder being hired back at KSU, maybe they could create a new bowl for KSU to play Notre Dame this year to get hype started for next year.

rss · 1 year ago

I forgot to add, re: KSU: At least the fan base travels well, regardless how disappointing the team has been...Since that's the primary concern of the Bowl games (i.e., full stadia=revenue)...who cares what the records are?

nick · 1 year ago

there is absolutely no way the ducks are going back to the sun bowl. someone didn't do their homework

Oscr · 1 year ago

According to your projections, do you REALLY think the Sun Bowl is going to choose Oregon AGAIN??

An Oregon school has been in the Sun Bowl the past 2 years (OSU in 2006 and UO in 2007). Is it going to be a 3rd? Don't you think they want someone different??

cctke455 · 1 year ago

The following explanation comes from Greg Auman's blog on the St. Petersburg Times website:

Barring upset, Irish out of Big East bowls
The Big East's bowl picture, complicated by Notre Dame's potential involvement, has gotten a lot clearer, at least as it relates to USF and its chances of being left out of the conference's contracted bowls.

The easy explanation: Notre Dame cannot be involved in a Big East bowl unless the Fighting Irish can pull off a huge upset Saturday at No. 5 Southern Cal. A loss would leave Notre Dame at 6-6, and neither the Gator nor Sun bowls could select a 6-6 Irish team with any 7-5 team available.

There is a "two-win rule" that allows a bowl to pick a team if it is within two wins of the winningest available team -- say if Notre Dame were 7-5 and West Virginia were 9-3 -- but that rule doesn't cover 6-6 teams. The NCAA does not allow a 6-6 team to be chosen ahead of a team in the same conference (and Notre Dame is counted in the Big East as it relates to bowl contracts) that is 7-5 or better.

(You may have seen the Sun Bowl's Bernie Olivas quoted as saying he probably would be excited about a 6-6 Notre Dame team. He can be excited as he wants, but the NCAA won't allow him to invite a 6-6 team if there's a Big East team with seven wins available.)

FSU_Ben · 1 year ago

That is interesting to contemplate but I think they are somewhat seperate from the big east, I don't know for sure but they always take pains (it seems) to write big east team or notre dame. USF might be a good pick for bowls later but as it stands they have a very small fan base. It is likely that will improve but I can see where these bowls want just about anyone over the big east. Cincinnati (gag), USF, and Uconn have to be some of the most painful bowl picks possible. Lousville and WVU are good and USF will improve but I don't see the situation improving for cincinnati unless they were to start dominating thier conference for a decade and beating down OSU once in a while.

FSU_Ben · 1 year ago

What I am trying to say is the contract is INSTEAD of a big east team not AS a big east team. I might be talking out of my rear though.

cctke455 · 1 year ago

Hey Kevin and FSU_Ben. I think Mandel Stewart sees things the Big East/ WVU's way.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/s...

NOTE: A previous version of this column incorrectly interpreted selection rules regarding Big East teams and Notre Dame. Several Big East bowl projections, as well as Notre Dame's, have since been changed.

Now that Notre Dame appears headed toward a 6-6 finish, the Gator Bowl will set its sights instead on a Big 12 team. Word is the Gator is eyeing 7-4 Nebraska (assuming it beats Colorado) and its massive horde of traveling fans.

The Sun Bowl will covet the Irish even at 6-6, but cannot take them over a Big East team if the Big East produces six seven-win teams. I'm projecting Rutgers to become that sixth team, in which case Notre Dame falls to any bowl with an open spot. On a purely speculative whim, I'm placing them in the Texas Bowl, for now.

Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago

Thanks!

Eye_of_the_Tiger · 1 year ago

The National Championship game will be played this year in the SEC Championship. FLA vs. Alabama. Until there is a play-off I don't give a sh__ about the BCS NC. I am soo sick of seeing teams like OU and Ohio get in with no defense. Defense and depth wins Championships. We know a thing or two about that by now don't we?

Eye_of_the_Tiger · 1 year ago

and to think-Had OU not punded that sorry defense of Texas Tech, Kev, that's who woulda been in the Championship game. Now that's sorry.

On-Looker · 1 year ago

Explain how Boston College makes it to the Orange Bowl. I don't see them winning the conference.

4cornerz · 1 year ago

What if FSU beats UF, then UF beat Alabama. Will it be Texas and Oklahoma for the BCS title

murdoc chongo · 1 year ago

I agree the Big 12 has no defenses to speak of but the Big 10 has some of the best defenses in the country

Bevo_Boy · 1 year ago

Well, I disagree.

Art. · 1 year ago

Cal wil have 8 wins and there are 7 bowls that designate a pac 10 team. It appears that only 5 pac 10 teams will be bowl eligible ,so how is it that you dont show CAL IN ANY BOWL GAME?

Midwestmike · 11 months ago

Western looks completely unprepared and inept. This is a joke. If any high school senior was considering WMU- this performance and its COMPLETE INEPTNESS - would certify they would go to another school. Cubit should be FIRED, not given an extension!