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Fanblogs.com: Updated Bowl Game Projections

  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    But I want Utah to play someone good...
  • Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago
    Must... resist... taking... bait.... ;-)
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    As if pairing Utah and FSU was not bait...

    It would be interesting to see who the line picked for that one.
  • PittsburghTiger · 1 year ago
    Hey, I hear ya there. I remember the beating you all gave Pitt.
  • Cameron Carmichael · 1 year ago
    i can agree..maybe that will determine if teams in the "less prestigious" conferences should be allowed a chance at the title..(not being rude..just honest)
  • Earl · 1 year ago
    Utah can play my grandmother she got a bad hip but i'll ask her to take it easy on them
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    To the victor goes the spoils YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!
  • Zac · 1 year ago
    How does ECU rate 2 Bowls?!? They get Rutgers in the TX Bowl, then a presumably undefeated BAll St. in the GMAC Carquest Bowl??? IA has to play both Carolinas?!? They get NC in the Champ's Sports Bowl before playing SC in the Outback bowl??? Then, NC gets to play Ole Miss in the Chick Fil-A Bow??? ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS!!!

    Then there are some of these match-ups. S FL/Houston? C MI/IL? WVU/FL Atlantic? Howzabout swapping WVU for N Western and letting my Mountaineers play KS. I can live with that, if WVU doesn't at least take 2nd in the Big East. Yeeesh! Watta mess!!!
  • Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago
    Yeah, my mistake. Updated.
  • shiguy · 1 year ago
    If we're playing florida atlantic i don't even know if I will go to the game. Cost a lot, and I know if I can justify the money. Kansas would be worth it.
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    LSU would be good for me, it would be like a reunion, Miles vs Stoops.....it would be like old home week, after the game, Les congradulating Bob for getting the victory.......;-)
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    LOL.....I hear ya man. We're prime for the taking right now Ron. You probably know better than I do on this one...what's the history between these two coaches? No love loss, animosity, friends? Which is it?

    I would have to call BS on the site though. Well, on second thought, LSU has had a favorable bowl game site here lately. Therefore, I digress.

    And let me correct you last statement. I see an honest mistake in it. "It would be like old home week, after the game, Les congratulating Bob for getting another victory......STOLEN FROM HIM IN A BOWL GAME". The caps are just meant to highlight the change. I don't know the html tricks that most do.

    And if the MNC game ends up with TT vs Fla, I'll take the over....which ought to be in the neighbohood of 75....lol.

    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    GT, no love lost, in 03, the whole week before the OSU/OU game, Miles boasted of whipping OU in Norman, we won that game 52-9

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQR3oNZgLgU&feat...
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    Thx for the video. I enjoyed it. Looks like your guys O-line and D-line just dominated theirs. Then you guys were up 31-0 and run a reverse half back pass and scored again. LOL. Stoops was obviously sending back the message.

    Well if it all works out and we get to match up....and work permits.....I'm gonna try and make it that way. I know for sure we have a group of guys who go to nearly every LSU bowl game and I can jump in with them. Stay tuned for further updates.

    Besides, there's someone there I want to try and meet up with....an old friend who lives in the area.

    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    GT, if it's LSU and the Cotton Bowl, I'm pretty sure I will be making the trip, may be able to meet up and say hello....
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    Great minds do think alike my friend.

    Now if you'd be so kind as to only getting 3 right this weekend in the Pick 'Em, myself and Clemson Joe would definitely appreciate it...lol.


    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago
    LOL! Yeah, that'd be great.

    No, seriously, I'd rather not win unless it was done right and competitively.
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    No, seriously, I'll take it however I can get it.....lol.



    j/k
    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago
    LOL.

    This week should shake things up. My picks don't look good at this point.
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining Joe. You and Ron say that every week....lol. I bought it for about 3 weeks then figured out is was all smoke and mirrors.

    Maybe I'll try that. Makes my picks and then convince myself how bad they look......lol. I gotta try something!


    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    GT, you can do what I do, I first go thru and make my selections, then go back on thursday and reverse them to the other team, seems to work for me ;-).......except for OU, I'll always have to pick them..
  • Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago
    LOL.

    Honestly, they look terrible right now. However, I have not done any of my usual background research before I made them. At this point though, I have FAR too many favorites picked for them to be correct. I plan on revising it all tomorrow though.
  • GeauxTigers0107 · 1 year ago
    Honestly, with the points spreads, you can look at all the trends you want (and I've tried that), but it's really a guessing game when it comes to the spread...

    At least that's my take on it. It's easier in the NFL because players hang around longer. But in college, you've got so many coming and going that it's hard to be completely sure of the pick.

    For instance: I forget which game it was 2 weeks ago but the visiting team (we'll call them team A) had covered the spread against this opponent (team B) the last three years straight. And two of the games were played at Team B's stadium. Also, when Team A was favored by more than 9, they covered 65% of their games. So the stars are lined up and it looked like a lock.

    Wrooooooooooooooooong!

    Not only did Team A not cover, they lost the game. I can go back and look that up once I get home (that's were my trends book is).

    You know what....this week, I'm gonna flip a coin on every game. The team on the left is heads, the team on the right is tails. As the Good Lord as my witness, I'll follow the coin all the way out and not change a pick and see how it turns out.

    This oughta be fun!


    Geaux Tigers
    Geaux SEC
  • Clemson_Joe · 1 year ago
    Yeah, that's one way to do it. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

    I don't use historical trends. I just watch as many games as possible and look at this season's info.
  • Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago
    Man...I hope OSU doesn't get Texas. Not that I'm worried about the matchup necessarily, because any team will be favored against OSU in a bowl, and rightfully so. But we just did the Texas home-and-home thing. I'd like to see them get Alabama or Oklahoma.
  • BamaNez · 1 year ago
    Tom_Blogical,
    Do you really want to see OSU lose to another SEC team? I think you are better off losing to another conference and save all the heartache associated with losing to another SEC team. How cruel would 0-7, and 3 consecutive sound?
  • Tom_Blogical · 1 year ago
    Oh well...in that case, let's just not actually play the game if that match up happens because it's already a foregone conclusion. (I heard that same argument in 2002.)

    I want the challenge. How sweet would a win be? You can't be a champion unless you face your demons or beat the best. We all have to keep moving forward, bro.
  • PittsburghTiger · 1 year ago
    Isn't Ohio State 0-9 right now against SEC teams in bowl games?
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    We get OU every year and I would like to see Bama,Fla,LSU,USC,PSU anybody from those teams whose fans bost about defense- try and stop a high powered offense
    Bama cant outscore Texas, neither can USC
  • Kevin @ Fanblogs · 1 year ago
    I was pretty tempted to put Michigan State in the Rose Bowl and pair Penn State against FSU in the Orange.
  • Regan · 1 year ago
    I looked up the Bowl Selection Orders, and compiled everything based on that. It is fairly convoluted, but it should be accurate for a #1 SEC team vs. a #2 Big 12 team.

    I have been proven to be beyond fallible this year, though. :(

    I'm thinking (now) (besides Arbys...):

    TITLE: FLA vs. OU
    ORANGE: MIA vs. PITT
    SUGAR: BAMA vs. BSU
    FIESTA: TEX vs. UTAH
    ROSE: SCAL vs. PSU

    If an SEC team is #1 and a Big 12 team is #2, the selection order will be:

    Automatic berths for #1 and #2:

    1) TITLE (FLA): I think FLA will win out and hand BAMA it's only loss in the SEC CG. I think OU will beat TXT and clear the way for FLA to play the Big 12 Champ.
    2) TITLE (OU): I think OU will beat TXT and win the Big 12 and get the nod over TEX because they lost earlier in the season. (Which I don't agree with, but that's often the way it goes.)

    Automatic berths for remaining conference champs that have tie-ins:
    3) ORANGE (MIA): I think the 'Canes will win the ACC...because that's what I want and it's my list. :)
    4) ROSE (SCAL): I think ORST will slip up, leaving SCAL to win the Pac-10 as usual.
    5) ROSE (PSU): I don't see PSU losing again, and they'd win the Big Ten if they win out.


    At-Large Berths for Bowls that lose their tie-ins:
    6) SUGAR (BAMA) Since the Sugar loses it's SEC tie-in, they have first At-Large choice. [NOTE: It would be the first time a team lost a Conference Championship Game and made a BCS At-Large Berth, but I think BAMA will end with that as it's only loss and would be a great pick.]

    7) FIESTA (TEX) Since the Fiesta loses it's Big 12 tie-in, they have second At-Large choice. TEX is a no-brainer choice given the available teams.

    BCS Remaining At-Large Selection Order = A) Fiesta, B) Sugar, C) Orange

    8) FIESTA (UTAH) I think they'd be happy to take Utah, especially since they'd get two picks in a row, they would truly get to choose their matchup, and TEX vs. UTAH would be intriguing.

    9) SUGAR (BSU) This one I'm not so sure about, since they don't have to take a non-BCS team. However, they can't take another Big 12 or SEC team, and I don't see two BCS teams in the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, or Pac-10. Thus, a perfect Boise State would be a logical pick.

    10) ORANGE (PITT) Like it or not, the Big East's Champ will likely be the last kid picked at kickball. Given the recent ACC-Big East history that the Orange Bowl has had, this wouldn't be a big problem. Personally, I'd love to see a matchup that has something to it, which is easily possible, like MIA/PITT, or FSU/WVU...

    Ya know....since you asked.... :)
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    So you think the fiesta would take texas over us, even though we beat them head to head???? I have a tough time buying that one, and I think they would take us if it comes down to that because the head to head is a good cover for them. Just saying......
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    He has you losing to Oklahoma, that would put them just ahead of you in the BCS standings. The Standings actually don't mean anything though.

    Who is likely to bring more fans, Texas or Texas Tech?

    This is Utah's trump over Pitt also, as demonstrated in the 2004 Fiesta Bowl where Utah sold 10,000 tickets Pittsburgh could not sell.
  • Regan · 1 year ago
    Exactly as BP said...one fact of Bowl Season (sadly) is that "Tradition" (ie: huge traveling fan bases) trump specific results on the field.

    This fact elevates some teams to Bowls they don't belong in (causing huge Bowl Loss Streaks like the one at Notre Dame), and sinks others to Bowls where they overmatch their opponents (causing huge Bowl Win Streaks like the one at Boston College).

    Remember, Tyler, that all this is based on TEX, TXT, and OU all winding up tied with 1-Loss in the Big 12 South, and only one team controls their destiny - the Red Raiders...now that's something for you to smile about...
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    Yes that is true about fan bases, but I am not sure there has been a
    situation like this in the BCS era where 2 teams could be a up for a spot
    out of the same conference with the same record. I would assume they would
    take the head to head winner but who knows. I am chomping at the bit to
    travel up to Norman in two weeks to see one hell of a game. :)
    Wreck' em
  • Glass_Joe · 1 year ago
    I think the Big Ten qualifies two teams. That leaves out a non-BCS at-large. To not qualify two teams would mean Ohio State loses one of its next two against Illinois and Michigan. Not gonna happen (I hope I'm wrong!)
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    I agree with your objection, though I think Ohio State is more than capable to lose one of those games.

    Another wrinkle is that Oregon State could win the Rose Bowl bid by winning out, making USC an at large. Oregon State winning the PAC 10 is only palatable if USC manages to lose another game.
  • Glass_Joe · 1 year ago
    If Ohio State was going to lose a game they shouldn't I thought it would be against Michigan State but they throttled the Spartans. OSU is very good at winning the games they should, and getting blown up in games they shouldn't. With that said, Oregon State would have a heck of a time winning out with Cal, @ Arizona and Oregon left on the schedule, but if they were to do that then there goes any chance a second non-bcs team would have at the BCS.
  • Regan · 1 year ago
    That's more than possible; in which case I think the Fiesta would take Ohio State to play Texas as its second pick.

    However, I just don't know what's going to happen with ILL and MICH. OHST should win both, but I just have that feeling about BSU getting in, considering the excitement brought to Glendale from their win over OU a few years back...

    If it was the Sugar or Orange, though, I'd pick Ohio State to be chosen in a heartbeat.
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    If they pass on Ohio State the Fiesta would take Utah over Boise State, leaving Ohio State for the Sugar Bowl or even the Orange Bowl. The Sugar bowl might take Pittsburgh to avoid another SEC beat down of Ohio State in a BCS Bowl.
  • Zac · 1 year ago
    Does the Orange Bowl still have a Big-12 option? If so, FSU or Miami could just as easily be playing TX Tech or TX, and the Big East have to settle for the Gator Bowl. (Of course, if ND doesn't get one more win, they're in the Gator Bowl. If they do, they're in the BCS. So, what need it worry ya?)
  • Crew · 1 year ago
    Maryland will win the ACC. No if, and, or but.
  • Zac · 1 year ago
    That's a match-up I was hoping for! Question is, what do ya suppose would happen if they played, and after the game both men announced their retirements? Joe Pa's been look'n awful shaky over the last couple of post-game press-conferences.
  • Toddy · 1 year ago
    The frustration of coach Orgeron has finally left Ole Miss. Ole Miss finally getting back bowling, this feels like a national championship to me haha. Would love to see how Ole Miss would do against a strong North Carlina team.
    Hotty Toddy!!
  • War_Eagle_Atlanta · 1 year ago
    No one's picking Auburn to pull off a major upset with one of it's remaining games with Georgia or Alabama, therefore becoming bowl eligible?

    Seriously. I'll take Shreveport or Nashville at this point. Please?
  • Bama_Babe · 1 year ago
    WEA,

    What about the papajohns.com bowl in Birmingham?!

    (Of course meaning an upset of Georgia....)

    ;)
  • shiguy · 1 year ago
    Hey I'm not giving up. I'm still calling for the upset of the year with AU beating Bama.
  • fosterkeats · 1 year ago
    You've been smelling too many burning sofas, my man...
  • TidePride27 · 1 year ago
    bull shit there is know way
  • shiguy · 1 year ago
    We'll see all I know is that if Bama looses i'm going to be bragging that shit for weeks! hahaha
  • don't tempt me · 1 year ago
    WEA, You have the whole of TigerNation (y'know we other tigers) rooting for you! Can you say redemption?!
  • Fasteddie · 1 year ago
    Cool....
    Hawkeyes get to play in 2 bowl games this year. That should be fun.
  • Gatorader · 1 year ago
    With all that has happened in the last few weeks, I am not going to assume anything, especially that Florida is a sure thing against Alabama. Or even FSU. I've been hurt to many times :(

    However, that being said, I would love to see the Gators matched up against Texas in a bowl game.
  • Bob · 1 year ago
    I'm taking Iowa over V Tech in the Champs Sports Bowl, but I think they will then be too tired to beat South Carolina in the Outback bowl.
  • Glass_Joe · 1 year ago
    If TTU loses to either Oklahoma or in the Big 12 Championship, and Alabama loses in the SEC Championship, is there any way that Utah sneaks into the title game as the only undefeated team left (I know that Ball State is still undefeated but we all know they don't factor in anywhere)? An undefeated Utah would have big wins over TCU and BYU. It's still a long shot but could you imagine a Fla/Utah Title Game with the Urban Meyer tie-in?
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    Can Utah get to the title game? Yes, but...

    MWC: Utah still needs to beat BYU.

    Big 12: Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State would all need to lose one and Texas Tech needs to lose 2 to be below Utah. It is more likely that 2 Big 12 teams are ahead of Utah than none or 1 are ahead of us.

    SEC: Alabama must lose 2 and Florida must lose 1 to be behind Utah.

    PAC 10: USC needs to lose 1. BYU is not enough to get Utah over USC.

    BIG 10: Penn State may need to lose one. Michigan State might outweigh BYU, and SDSU is a serious liability.

    The Big 12 south alone makes it look ridiculously impossible for Utah, or even USC, to get a foot in the door. It is more likely that 2 Big 12 teams get in than that a team not now in the top 5 gets in.
  • Glass_Joe · 1 year ago
    I agree it's very unlikely, especially the way you've laid it out. I was just wondering what the sentiment around the country might be towards Utah if they were the only undefeated team left, regardless of who has one or two losses. Even though this Ute team isn't as good as 2004, they would have a stronger case for the Title Game due to their schedule this year and who they would've beat to go undefeated. Also more of a case than '06 Boise State and certainly much more than '07 Hawaii.
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    If Utah is the only unbeaten left standing and wins a BCS bowl against a Big 12 or SEC team they may be able to steal a split championship with the AP Poll.

    The only team in the top 5 I think Utah matches up with favorably (very long strech of the word I admit) is Alabama.
  • Crew · 1 year ago
    No Utah cannot get to the title game. The only way they will get there is to switch to a better Confrence. They will get their butt spanked by a fifth place SEC or ACC team.
  • Hotty_Toddy · 1 year ago
    I'll take it.
  • CinciSavage · 1 year ago
    There was an Orange Bowl rep at the OSU vs. PSU game.
  • CinciSavage · 1 year ago
    Looks like another bad year for the Big Ten in bowl games. If these are feasible projections both OSU and PSU will be crushed. The best game, i belive, will be the Spartans agaisnt the Dawgs. great match up.
  • c-dogg · 1 year ago
    who wants to see Wake Forest play Notre Dame in the Gator Bowl when Miami beat Wake forest? The bigger ratings in with Miamio vs. Notre Dame. That would be a great if we blow the ACC this year...again.

    Go Canes! give us Notre Dame!
  • Regan · 1 year ago
    Hey, c-dogg, if UNC loses to either Maryland, NC State, or Duke and Miami wins out, the 'Canes will win the Coastal and can make the Orange Bowl....

    Although talk about an awesome Gator Bowl if they don't....wow...
  • c-dogg · 1 year ago
    I'm not gonna get too excited yet Regan. I've seen a highly ranked Miami team blow it against Georgia Tech in the past. I've always felt that Miami will make a national title run in 2010. Now that I've seen Nick Saban make a run in his 2nd year...I believe Coach Shannon might have a special 2009 season...time will tell. All depends on how fast these recruits can grow up. so far, so good.
  • "BC" · 1 year ago
    dude i hate to tell you this because i have nothing against Miami.
    but.
    Randy Shannon isn't even in the same coaching WORLD as Nick Saban.
    Miami will be in the dumps until y'all hire a real coach.
    Shannon will most likely be gone after next season.
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    Bleed, I think I enjoy reading your post's more than anyone else on this blog, I either smile or laugh on every post.....but I think you copy and save your post's, I could swear you used this same post a few weeks ago, just the names were changed to fit the team...;-)
  • otowngator · 1 year ago
    Hey Kev!! (or anyone else who can figure this one out)........If the Gators lose the SECC, can you determine which bowl we would appear in??
  • Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago
    The Sugar Bowl
  • Regan · 1 year ago
    I doub't the Sugar would take FLA if they had 2 losses and lost the SEC CG.

    I think FLA would get the Capital One Bowl, and play Ohio State....whatcha think about that? :)
  • otowngator · 1 year ago
    I would LOVE a rematch with Ohio State, and i believe the Capital One bowl is in my backyard...........BTW National Championship tix are $1200 for 2 tix to NC and 2 tix for the other Orange Bowl game. You have to buy both........what a joke!!
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    Who would the Sugar Bowl take instead? Georgia? Boise State?

    If Florida gets knocked out of the BCS, requiring 2 losses, they would land in the Capital One Bowl.
  • Regan · 1 year ago
    I have no earthly idea. I'm on Permutation Overload right now; I'll hopefully have an answer next week....
  • Regan · 1 year ago
    Nope...
  • c-dogg · 1 year ago
    my guess is the cotton bowl . florida fans travel well. is there any conference tie ins that would prevent that?
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    Oklahoma is going to win the National Title!
  • Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago
    Obama's victory has you thinking positively, eh Lennie? :-)
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    I hope it does not have you thinking negatively!
    Crimson & Cream True!
    I Believe! I B-B-B-B-B-B-BELIEVE!
  • Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago
    Not at all, my friend. It's got me thinking the Gators could take the title. :-)

    Yes We Can/Did!
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    It had some think negatively BUT I don't concern myself with politics. This is college football! Oklahoma wins against a ranked Texas Tech, a ranked Oklahoma State, and a ranked Missouri. Like McFadden & Whitehead song in 1979...Ain't No Stoppin' (Oklahoma) Now...They Are On The Move!
    Crimson & Cream True!
    FGT!
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Hey Ramblin
    Our President elect wants a 8 team playoff
    1- loss Tex
    1-loss Fla
    1- loss Bama
    1-loss TTech
    1- loss OU
    1-loss PSU
    1-loss USC
    0-loss Utah
    that would be the best for everybody-
  • Ramblin' Gator · 1 year ago
    Ah, yes. However, in politics and college football, it's all about the money. :-(

    I suspect a number of schools will have to step up and rebel against the BCS and the bowls before we will ever get a playoff system. The precedent for this happening is the CFA, in which a number of schools joined together and blew away the exisitng TV contracts for college football. Could it happen again? Here's hoping! :-)
  • gobeaversosu · 1 year ago
    How about an Oregon State-Penn State rematch in the Grandaddy of 'em all
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    You would never hear the end of "Utah should be the PAC 10 champion" at this site.
  • Cougar_Fan · 1 year ago
    Come on put Utah against somebody good! Leave the ACC and Big East to have a pillow fight with each other!
  • Cougar_Fan · 1 year ago
    They need to free up Boise State so they can play BYU in the poinsetta bowl!! That woud be an exciting matchup!
  • TheMayor · 1 year ago
    Gobeavs....

    We're looking for a little payback from last year...with that said, I really would not want the Ducks to be the team to deny you your Rose Bowl.

    I said it all summer...Las Vegas, here we come!!! I have my reservations at The Wynn.
  • Ben Prather · 1 year ago
    Who do you want to see on the other sideline for that game?

    Utah, BYU or TCU?
  • "BC" · 1 year ago
    either way you spin it, there'll be an SEC team in the NC, and one in the Sugar Bowl.
    one will be Florida, one will be Alabama, and both will dismantle any team they're paired up with unless it's USC.

    that's my bowl prediction.
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    Let Alabama get by Mississippi State and Florida get by South Carolina first. What the college football fans like to say: Upset alert is on this week-end!
  • "BC" · 1 year ago
    well for florida i would agree.
    i can definitely see a letdown against south carolina.
    1. south carolina always plays 'em tough
    2. south carolina has a really good defense.

    for alabama. maybe against Auburn, but i'm not worried at all about losing to Mississippi State.
    they have a poor rushing defense. we have an amazing rushing offense.
    we lead the SEC in rushing defense. they depend on running the ball.

    as you can see, we will dominate.
    i think florida will win by 21.
    same with alabama.
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    Kansas will win against Texas!
    Mississippi State might win against Alabama!
    South Carolina might win against Florida!

    I better not say beat OR someone will complain I am promoting violence!
  • "BC" · 1 year ago
    ol' Lennie Collins.

    you stay cool man. alright. don't let the man get you down.
    fanblogs is a place to exercise your 1st Amendment right, as long as what you say isn't offensive to anyone....
  • Lennie Collins · 1 year ago
    You better be careful...Someone might complain that I am startin' a rebellion!
  • Jake · 1 year ago
    Maybe Texas Tech can get to the BCS Bowl. I don't know. I'm an SEC fan from the State of Alabama, root for Alabama, and the only spread offense I've seen down here this year has been run by Auburn (ugh, let's not go there). My question is . . . is Texas Tech really just as good as they look, or is there no real defense in the Big 12? Though a Crimson Tide fan, I am willing to accept either possibility. I just wonder how unbiased people (someone who roots for a conference other than the SEC or the Big 12) feel that Texas Tech's offense would do against a Bama defense, or a Florida defense, and LSU defense, etc., given the respective teams as they have played this year. Please enlighten me, because I've only watched two Texas Tech games my whole life (the last two), and they've looked like revenant spirits of the desert in those spooky helmets of theirs. Is Graham Harrell really Superman wearing black?
  • "BC" · 1 year ago
    okay. look. im an SEC/Alabama fan too. but i'll be as objective as i possibly can:

    the big xii has amazing QB play. Graham Harrell is a GREAT QB and can thread the needle.
    but here's the thing:
    no defense in the Big XII is as good as ANY defense in the SEC except for Arkansas.
    how can i tell?
    it's pretty easy. whenever you see a Big XII receiver catch the ball, he's wide-a** open. no matter what conference you cheer for you can see that as clear as day.
    second, you rarely ever see a Big XII QB face any kind of pressure whatsoever. however, on the rare occasion they do face pressure, they don't fare well.

    here's my bottom line:
    - the Big XII has better QB play than the SEC
    - the Big XII has more, good offensive attacks than the SEC
    - the SEC has different good teams than are traditionally good, so everyone thinks they are down (Ole Miss filled in for Auburn. South Carolina filled in for Tennessee)
    - the best teams in the SEC (Alabama, Florida, Georgia, LSU, SC, Ole Miss) are better than the best teams in the Big XII (Texas Tech, Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Kansas, Missouri)
    - essentially, Florida runs the same offense as their Big XII counterparts, only they have much faster players, and possibly the best defense in college football.
    and Florida has 1 loss in the SEC, to Ole Miss....

    SEC > Big XII
    Florida > Texas Tech - 99% sure
    Alabama > Texas - 75% sure
    Georgia > Oklahoma - 55% sure
    LSU > Oklahoma St. - 70% sure
    South Carolina > Missouri - 65% sure
    Ole Miss > Kansas - 65% sure

    but of course, that's just my view...

    this is funny. it used to be the SEC vs. Pac 10 debate. now it's SEC vs. Big XII debate. the only difference is, we'll get to see the answer come bowl season...
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?co...
    This guy pretty much disagreed with you on every point, not saying he is right or anything. Just saying I thought it was funny.

    We will see come bowl time. I will say that the SEC year in and year out is the toughest conference. BUT THIS YEAR I think the big 12 may be slightly better. It is tough to say what would happen if a Texas played say an Alabama. The only matchup we can draw to is Texas vs. Arkansas which was a 52-10 stomp, but I really do not think that is a fair estimation. Florida does not run the same spread at all though BC. Tebow throws the ball about 15 times a game, where at TTech, Texas, and OU throw the ball about 35 times a game. The kind of spread they run could best be related to that of West Virginia. I will say that the SEC is the best defensive conference, but it is all relative. The matchups I would like to see most are Texas vs. LSU. OU vs Florida and TTech vs. Alabama.(I am still pissed about that BS cotton bowl.) I think any defense would have a tough time stopping us, but I guess we will see in Norman and definitley in bowl time. I would love to play Bama in the N.C. so win out and I will do the same...........
  • "BC" · 1 year ago
    haha. yeah i can imagine. that BS kick at the end.

    but that's a good point. remember.
    Texas Tech's offense that year was said to be unstoppable. Alabama held y'all to 7 points.
    i think TT was averaging like 550 yards offense a game or something crazy like that.
    Then again, Alabama had the best defense in the country that year, and probably one of the best defenses this decade. up there with '04 LSU and '04 Auburn.
    lets see, Demeco Ryans (Texans star LB), Roman Harper, Anthony Madison, Ramzee Robinson, Jeremy Clark, and one other DL are all in the NFL from that defense.
    it was unreal.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    That game was the weirdest thing I have ever seen in my life, no joke. I am not taking anything away from the defense though. That unit was the sickest defense I have ever seen. People are soon to forget that year that Bama was ranked as high as number 3 and if they could have mounted any sort of offense could have been looking at an SEC title. After that game leach admitted that maybe you need some kind of running game. I laughed so hard! How many seniors were on that Defense? I heard some kind of stat that was like all the DB's had all played at least 3 years together!
  • "BC" · 1 year ago
    haha yeah no joke.
    im pretty sure all the DBs had been playing together for 3 years.
    i think there were 8 seniors on that defense. 6/8 were drafted.

    also, Joe Kines, the DC is now coaching at Texas A&M.
    even he couldn't turn that mess around.
    he is like in his 60s though.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    I hate texas A&M more than I should. I hope they keep they keep hiring old coaches to fix problems against new offenses.....,
  • PittsburghTiger · 1 year ago
    I picked 'Bama to win that game
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    13-10 with a fieldgoal boinked off their own helmet, and a TD where the knee was down 4 yards behind the line of scrimage are burned in my mind.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    BC You really make me laugh- trying to be as objective as you can -LOL
    Look take any team from the SEC including Fla and Bama and give them
    Colo,Ark,OK,Missu,OK St,TTech,BU,KU in consecutive weeks-Texas schedule
    Sorry bubba there is no comparison
    BU would do well against Ole Miss, Miss st, Vandy, Tenn, Ark,AU,USC etc etc
    BU held A&M to 64 yds rushing and got 4 INT's yesterday- no defense?
    BU 269 yds rushing- 241 yds passing
    BU would do real well in the SEC, but they play in B-12 south with a first year coach and a Freshman QB, they would be ranked and Bowl bound if they were in the SEC
    Teams like Texas dont get to play easy schedules like Bama and if yall get them in a bowl its going to be embarassing for the Tide faithful, because yall really aint ever faced a team like Texas and if yall had yall wouldnt be undefeated
    Hookem-Horns
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Jake:

    Any team that has a good defense will dismantle just about any team from the Big 12 this year. No team in the Big 12 has any defense whatsoever. It is going to be a total shock to any of these offenses, when they understand that the receivers are not open, and there are 300 pound people chasing the QB's who are faster than they are. This kinda thing is gonna happen in some of the bowl games this year. I'm not saying that any team could beat them. I'm saying that the teams with very good defenses will. Sadly, there are only a handful of teams that do have very good defenses, at the BCS level. USC, Alabama, Florida, Penn State, Arizona and maybe Ohio State would have a chance. I don't know of many other teams that play that good of defense that are BCS conference schools. We'll surely see somebody play a Big 12 team.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    The Trojans D couldnt stop them Beavers running attack, but yall really shut down Stanford congrats on yalls outstanding victory
    We will see if your predictions hold true come Bowl time
    BTW Texas D held KU to 7 points yesterday
  • Tommy_Trojan · 1 year ago
    Tomcat:

    And, that was by far the best defensive effort put forth by any Big 12 team this year. Texas, probably more than any other Big 12 team, has the ability to go out and play some dominant defense. They just need to do it on a more consitent basis. They sure did the job against Kansas. That 35-7 victory, was far more impressive, than anything resembling some of these scores like 65-37. When Texas gets into their BCS bowl game - they are gonna have to buckle down on defense. Those games are gonna be really tough, and the games will be won with ball control, and hard-nosed defense.
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Sad part is that UT may not go to BCS because only two from each conference can attend. If OU beats TTech they will probably jump Texas and get to play Missu in the B-12 game. That would really suck and Texas would finish 11-1 and be #4 in conference, unlike other conferences B-E for example or ACC could have 2 or 3 loss representative in BCS.
    We kinda have to pull for BU to beat TTech, which would be a huge upset and hope the Sooners stubble in Stillwater, both things could happen- ya never know. One thing is for sure- UT is gonna whup A&M in Austin Turkey day- it aint even gonna be funny. I attended the BU vs A&M game and the Bears stomped the Aggies, the A&M QB threw 4 int's and the Bears dominated the Aggs 41-7 at the end of the 3rd- game finished 41-21 after the Bears put in 2nd string and coulda scored again at the end but instead just ran the ball to the A&M 10 yard line, kneeled a couple of times letting time expire. Great Game
    Other than one big pass play and a blocked punt- A&M couldnt do nothing
    The Horns are gonna tear them a new one in Austin
    Sicem-Bears
    Hookem-Horns
    Go Owls
    Go Frogs
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    Why no " Go Red Raiders " :-)
  • 1Tomcat · 1 year ago
    Ron I'm laughing
    Look we dont like Sooners at all, doesnt matter who there playing
    Other teams we dont like in order
    Arkansas
    Texas A&M
    Texas Tech
    Houston
    SMU
    These are listed as old rivals by level of dislike
    Its really good to be a Longhorn fan because alot of teams dont like us and always give 100% in dreams of beating Texas on occasion. For Example Texas Techs win over Texas this year is a monumental moment in their programs history. When we beat them just about every year its no big deal and we have a history of knocking off #1 teams- so really no big deal- just putting things in perspective- To all the Tide fans I can just say welcome back- where yall been- targets on yalls back now.
    Hookem-Horns
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    delete
  • husker Dennis · 1 year ago
    I learn from more then 50 years of going though this when more the 2 team are in the running for a bowl trip userally the one with the most big spending fans, will get the nod . It stills comes down to the$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
  • 4cornerz · 1 year ago
    I am hoping Utah and BSU get a BCS Bid and Pitt goes to the Sugar Bowl
  • Jake · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the input, guys. It corroborated some of my own thoughts on the matter. Don't get me wrong . . . I think Texas Tech is amazing in many respects. Crabtree looks like he has tractor beams shooting from his hands . . . I've never seen anybody snatch a ball out of the air like that. It's just that, when he does catch one, there is often nobody within 20 feet of him! Growing up in the SEC, I'm not used to that. Usually there are 2 or 3 or more hostile, gorilla-like guys making a sandwich out of you about 1 second after you catch the ball. hehe All I can say is, if a spread offense like the one Mike Leach has been tinkering on for years can do that in the SEC, I'm very worried about some rumors I've heard that Tennessee may be courting him as a replacement for Fulmer. :)

    On another note, as a Bama fan, I must say that I am disconcerted to hear most people in the media postulating about whom Florida will play after they have beaten us in the SEC Championship. My only consolation is that a certain underestimated Alabama team I remember beat the bejeebers out of Miami once. I do think there is something almost metaphysical about college football, an unknown factor that can frustrate prognostications. For example, in my opinion, I don't think if you're Florida, you can say, "Well, Alabama beat Georgia this year, but we beat Georgia by a lot more points, so that means we're going to beat Alabama by a bunch of points." By the same token, Alabama could say, "Well, Ole Miss beat Florida at home, we beat Ole Miss, so we're a shoo-in to win." Either theory is untenable. As for how badly Florida and Georgia beat LSU, as compared to how Alabama beat them, all I can say is that LSU acted like they were playing for their lives against us last Saturday? Or could it possibly have been for the life of a certain former coach they don't care for?
  • BigTwelve · 1 year ago
    It gonna look kind of funny for Texas Tech to be playing FL in the BCS NC game after they lose to Okla in the regular season. Just remember they don't get to play at home all the time.
  • Tyler_Tech · 1 year ago
    Gonna look pretty funny too when we go into Norman and shut everyone up.
  • BigTwelve · 1 year ago
    Tech better bring their triple "A" game to Norman. This game will be won by the team that has the ball last.. Both teams will score at will but since its a home game for OU, they will win.
  • PittsburghTiger · 1 year ago
    I'd hold off putting Pitt in there yet. The Panthers have a lot of work to do still.
  • SECfootblal4ever · 1 year ago
    SEC football rules!!
  • OU_Ron · 1 year ago
    imagine that....