Fanblogs.com: WAC media and coaches disagree on top team
4cornerz
· 1 year ago
Wow. I am the first again. Who cares.
Tigers318
· 1 year ago
I think Boise State is one and Freno State two
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
I generally find I agree more with the coaches in these polls. I think they generally know more about football than the media, especially when dealing with their own conference.
Fresno State is ahead of Boise in most pre-season rankings, but this may reflect their more difficult schedule strength.
I think Fresno is the team to beat, but Boise has every reason to think they can.
Tigers318
· 1 year ago
That is true. Well Boise State is really tough to beat at home.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Fresno, at least, is used to the ugly field.
Tigers318
· 1 year ago
No one can get used to playing on the blue turf against the broncos. .............. and they still do have Ian Johnson
dithridge
· 1 year ago
On the subject of media days in cities where there are no teams from the conference...the Big East media day is in Newport, R.I.
sportsbiz
· 1 year ago
The SEC media day is in Birmingham because that's where the conference office is. The Big East holds media days in Newport because well, where would you rather be in July - Newport or New York or Providence? The league offices are in Providence and basketball media days are usually held in NYC.
TigerEducated
· 1 year ago
So why is the SEC Office in Birmingham?
Why is Bobby Gaston's of the SEC Office brother working for Nick Saban all of the sudden?
Why is Mike Slive so proud of "No NCAA Violations"? It's because he instituted "The Fulmer Rule" that no coaches or member institutions could go to the NCAA with possible recruiting and/or other violations without running them through his office first.
He sweeps it under the rug...He should change his name to Mike Slime...
He's garbage, and a bagman that's hidden more violations than he's ever helped to stamp out...
Zac
· 1 year ago
Newport, RI, is a beautiful, but awfully expensive, little town. They'd be better off holding it in Hartford, CT, and that place is a friggen Zoo. Instead of in the "big city", or some expensive little substitute, why not hold the meeting elsewhere? Why not Williamsburg, VA or Charlotte, NC? By what rule does it have to be held in the northeast?
sportsbiz
· 1 year ago
Why Birmingham? Don't know but the offices have been there since 1948.
I agree with your assessment of Slive and I've probably watched him longer than most since I had to put up with him when he was commissioner of C-USA (I'm a Louisville fan at heart) He wasn't anymore above board then. The idea that he is the one who is going to deliver a real football playoff is laughable on its face. He couldn't convince any other conference to follow him across the room to an open bar.
The interesting thing about the SEC and NCAA violations is that the schools are always turning each other in. I think it happens more in the SEC than in any other conference. Elsewhere, violations come to the NCAA's attention through other means - newspapers, message boards, TV stations - just not so many fellow conference member tips. You get the schools who lost a recruiting battle but not so much your conference rival because you are all tied together economically. The more success everybody has on the field/court, the more money everybody makes. The SEC seems to care less about that and more about the rivalry and taking a pound of flesh out of the school who stole your recruit.
Besides, Ben gets very angry when we hijack his WAC threads with our silly SEC banter...
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
I even linked t it in the thread...
Don't you guys follow the links?
JB
· 1 year ago
hmmmm...... the WAC...i think i'll go to sleep now...:-)
Mars
· 1 year ago
You put 2 games against SDSU and 1 against UNLV in the "underdog" category?!?
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Idaho, Utah State. These teams are consistently horrible.
Mars
· 1 year ago
SDSU and UNLV are consistently horrible as well. Is hard to say that a crap team is an underdog to another crap team. In fact, SJSU should be favored against SDSU, and Utah State is 3-1 against UNLV over the past 10 seasons. UNLV has had equal success against Utah over that time period.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
I will agree that these games may be closer than some of the others listed as underdogs, but I can't say that they are a tossup either.
SDSU vs San Jose State, maybe that one should be a toss up.
Perhaps I am guilty of a MWC bias. Ok, maybe this is certain.
I plan on grading these conferences mid season based on these game levels. If I have over stated, or understate, a conference, it will appear then.
Tom_Blogical
· 1 year ago
Hawaii will not finish 4th. Unless their defense drastically improves, they'll be near the bottom of the pack.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
This is what the WAC media and coaches picked. It is closer to where they usually end up than last years results.
Frankly Hawaii has never had much defense and has been at or near the top 4 in the WAC without one.
Nyle
· 1 year ago
Hawaii has never really had a defense? I'm sorry but the last 2 years Hawaii's defense has been very good. Defense needs to drastically improves, dude the line backing core is the best in school history, and this defense could be way better than last years.
Kevin @ Fanblogs
· 1 year ago
93rd in turnovers and middle of the pack nationally isn't going to get it done. I don't think the offense will be able to cover for the defense this year.
And, let's be honest, the offenses Hawaii faced weren't exactly... BCS conference caliber.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
Like, for example Boise State...
Tom_Blogical
· 1 year ago
And, let's be honest, the offenses Hawaii faced weren't exactly... BCS conference caliber."
True dat. And they still won't be.
Tom_Blogical
· 1 year ago
"This is what the WAC media and coaches picked."
That's why I was so blunt. ;-)
In addition to not having a defense, they lost Brennan. I don't think the next QB will be as in tune with the offense, so I see them doing much worse. You know what opinions are like, though. Everybody's got one.
Ben Prather
· 1 year ago
I could argue that 4th in the WAC is significantly worse than a BCS invite. I see them going about 6-7, 4-4 in conference. This could easily be a tie for fourth place, especially if Fresno and Boise dominate the league as expected.
Tom_Blogical
· 1 year ago
"I could argue that 4th in the WAC is significantly worse than a BCS invite."
You could, and I would definitely agree with that argument. The point I was making was that they'll finish worse than 4th in the WAC. I watched them play several games last year, including the game in which they struggled mightily against San Jose St. With Brennan. Their defense is really bad; if I had the time, I would compare their defense of last year with their previous ones. Alas, I don't have the time and...it's the WAC! ;-)
Again, that's just my opinion. You very well may be right, and you bring up a very good point about Hawaii not ever having a defense to write home about, and being near 4th consistently.
Balldogs1
· 1 year ago
I agree....coaches know much more about their respective conferences then the media does. It is definitely going to be an interesting season in the WAC. I am particularly looking forward to the first four games Frtesno State is playing.....Rutgers in NJ....Wisconsin at home......Toledo away and UCLA at their place.........some good games await Bulldog Nation......see you there. Go Dogs!
All Comments
Fresno State is ahead of Boise in most pre-season rankings, but this may reflect their more difficult schedule strength.
I think Fresno is the team to beat, but Boise has every reason to think they can.
.............. and they still do have Ian Johnson
Why is Bobby Gaston's of the SEC Office brother working for Nick Saban all of the sudden?
Why is Mike Slive so proud of "No NCAA Violations"? It's because he instituted "The Fulmer Rule" that no coaches or member institutions could go to the NCAA with possible recruiting and/or other violations without running them through his office first.
He sweeps it under the rug...He should change his name to Mike Slime...
He's garbage, and a bagman that's hidden more violations than he's ever helped to stamp out...
I agree with your assessment of Slive and I've probably watched him longer than most since I had to put up with him when he was commissioner of C-USA (I'm a Louisville fan at heart) He wasn't anymore above board then. The idea that he is the one who is going to deliver a real football playoff is laughable on its face. He couldn't convince any other conference to follow him across the room to an open bar.
The interesting thing about the SEC and NCAA violations is that the schools are always turning each other in. I think it happens more in the SEC than in any other conference. Elsewhere, violations come to the NCAA's attention through other means - newspapers, message boards, TV stations - just not so many fellow conference member tips. You get the schools who lost a recruiting battle but not so much your conference rival because you are all tied together economically. The more success everybody has on the field/court, the more money everybody makes. The SEC seems to care less about that and more about the rivalry and taking a pound of flesh out of the school who stole your recruit.
Besides, Ben gets very angry when we hijack his WAC threads with our silly SEC banter...
Don't you guys follow the links?
SDSU vs San Jose State, maybe that one should be a toss up.
Perhaps I am guilty of a MWC bias. Ok, maybe this is certain.
I plan on grading these conferences mid season based on these game levels. If I have over stated, or understate, a conference, it will appear then.
Frankly Hawaii has never had much defense and has been at or near the top 4 in the WAC without one.
And, let's be honest, the offenses Hawaii faced weren't exactly... BCS conference caliber.
True dat. And they still won't be.
That's why I was so blunt. ;-)
In addition to not having a defense, they lost Brennan. I don't think the next QB will be as in tune with the offense, so I see them doing much worse. You know what opinions are like, though. Everybody's got one.
You could, and I would definitely agree with that argument. The point I was making was that they'll finish worse than 4th in the WAC. I watched them play several games last year, including the game in which they struggled mightily against San Jose St. With Brennan. Their defense is really bad; if I had the time, I would compare their defense of last year with their previous ones. Alas, I don't have the time and...it's the WAC! ;-)
Again, that's just my opinion. You very well may be right, and you bring up a very good point about Hawaii not ever having a defense to write home about, and being near 4th consistently.
Go Dogs!