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Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

Mike — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:36:22 -0000

Why is it that every fanblog you go to SEC fans have to constantly talk about their conference? Do SEC fans have favorite teams or is there a new conference poll I don't know about? Is it so when your team has 2, 3 or 4 losses in the SEC you can justify to yourself that your team is still a powerhouse because it came out of the almighty SEC even though there are no OOC games to judge from? How do you know today that Florida could beat Utah or BYU right now and deserves to be ranked so much higher than them? Oh that's right, SPEED. The truth is you don't know, no one does but the media (especially ESPN) tells you they are better, more football fans in the south=higher ratings. Makes sense to me but I guess I understand the business side of it. It is pretty simple math though if you put 5 SEC teams in the top 15 and they don't play anybody OOC they lose a couple games to each other than they will not move down in the polls too much when they lose because they are "beating up on each other". Then at the end of the season when the SEC goes .500 in bowl games we can all talk about how tough the SEC is because they "earned" a spot in the title game with 2 losses and then beat a obviously poorly coached OSU. Then the other teams in the SEC that lost to the champs that year will be a top 10 team next year even though they lost 5 games and didn't prove anything (example Florida). Gimme a freakin break. Are SEC defenses that good or are the offenses just that inept? Hmm, questions you would never hear debated about the SEC on ESPN. I love ESPN myself but just because they don't do a story or talk about a particular team (or conference for this matter) all the time doesn't mean they aren't good or worthy of being a BCS team and just because they do stories or cover the SEC more doesn't make them the superior conference. I will be the first to admit the SEC is a great conference and is the top conference 2-3 times every 5 years lately but just because you have more ESPN 150 recruits year in and year out doesn't mean you have the best teams it just means you have more supporters. The sad part of College football these days is even though there is more parody in the league FBS football is nothing but a popularity contest based off of recruiting "talent" rankings which persuades the joke of what is called college football polls. Look at any other sport, the team with the "most talent" doesn't win a championship every year and the teams with the "most talent" sure as hell aren't voted into the championship game in any other sport. Truthfully though who the hell can blame SEC fans, they had to hear about the big ten all the time when those were the only games on ESPN before the BTN.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

JAMES — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:45:00 -0000

Hey any Michigan or Ohio State fans listen up. All I gotta say is win a national championship. Oh wait Michigan is too busy loosing to App st. and Utah wow. Ohio State can't beat any SEC team in a bowl game, they are 0-9 versus the SEC in bowl games. Oh and Michigan LSU and UF did something yall haven't in the last 4 years, beat Ohio State. The pac-10 is a joke name one team that can contend with USC. I'll wait thats right you can't because the conference is horrible. 0-5 against the Mountain West for the pac-10 WOW. No one can name a clear favorite in the SEC because its loaded with teams that can compete. Ask Arizona State and Clemson if the SEC are for real. We just saw what Florida did to Tenn. at Tenn. so don't give me that UCLA beat Tenn. in OT nonsense.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

Matt — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:40:34 -0000

BCS opponents isn't that accurate a measure. By that standard, playing BYU, Utah, Boise, Miami-OH, etc. is being chicken and playing Ole Miss, Duke, Baylor, Stanford, Indiana, etc. is scheduling tough opponents.

It also doens't take into account teams who CHICKEN out of games against SEC teams. BCS teams have backed out of games against LSU and Auburn the past few years and left them scrambling to find a I-AA bottom feeder.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

KURT — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 01:03:23 -0000

ACC IS 115-95 WITH IS DATA SEC IS 53-61 THE MYTH EXPOSED

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

aVoiceInSC — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:58:32 -0000

Winning in Columbia has been quite difficult for my Tigers over the years. We might as well put the Tiger Paw on the side of the building.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

Bama_by_Birth — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:53:53 -0000

Did you ever stop to think that maybe these "big time BCS" teams didn't want to come play in the SEC during the regular season. I could name a few, including one on the list up top, and why would they. No point in ruining a season till the very last game, just ask JimTressel.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

WestCoaster — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:30:32 -0000

Cal blew it BIG TIME. Granted, Maryland has shown that it can play big against ranked teams (reference Rutgers and BC last year). However, there are no excuses. Overall, the PAC-10 just looked bad last weekend. I don't know if ASU and Cal were caught looking ahead to match ups they though would be more difficult, but the results were unacceptable. Hopefully ASU can upset Georgia, which is possible since Dennis Erickson has shown that he can coach in big games in the past and there is home-field advantage. However, I'm not getting my hopes up.

At least the ACC did a good job last week to improve its profile. However, I'm starting to think that conference comparisons are just impossible to make as the parity among all teams increases. After all, how can UCLA beat Tennessee and then lose like THAT to BYU? Ridiculous.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

WestCoaster — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:21:59 -0000

Hate to butt in, but the SEC just celebrated its 75th anniversary. (The current line-up with SC and Arkansas is less than 20 years old, however.) You might get eaten alive for making such an off-base comment. Just a heads up.

I find Wikipedia to be a useful tool when I am unsure about something.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

PrinceMarko — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:07:27 -0000

Uh, we are 2-0 vs Florida(2003, 2007) and we are 20-5-1 vs the SEC all-time. And as i remember it correct...isnt the SEC relatively young? I dont think the SEC is even 30 years old.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

AdamAL — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:14:38 -0000

I think that teams from the ACC and PAC 10 know that they are not going to get respect for their confrence scedules, even though that probably not fair, so they go out and get who that can to showcase their ability. Cal, UCLA, Oregan, Wash, well heck nearly all of the PAC 10 schools have went out of confrence to test their mettle. Its the same for the ACC. Now in the SEC we know that we will get respect for our confrence play so there's no real motivater to go get a Wisconsin, or a Mizzo to play us. We are working the system just as bad ans anyone else, if not worse. BTW AU was looking at LSU, thats why MISS ST snuck up on them. The SEC is good, and I don't think many would disagree with that unless we tick them off enough with our arrogance. I still think we need to go out an see each year how good we are, we cannot claim to be the best if we dont strap it on againts other BCS confrences. I thin Nick Satan has began to change AL's scheduling, but its not to add glory to the SEC, it is to add recuits to his team. We'll see if over the next few years the SEC want to revel in their tuff confrence, or if we want to go play with the other big boys and see how we really match up top to bottem.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

JB — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:23:14 -0000

this is true except for now the SEC has 5 teams in the top 10, but that will have to change as they start conference play this weekend

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

Rob — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:09:52 -0000

On probation...duh...thats what teams do while on probation...duh

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

Rob — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:08:07 -0000

Exactly and SEC team BEATS THE CRAP out of a good SEC team, that being Clemson, and they drop out of the polls, OSU drops from 5 to outside the Top Ten, Clemson dropped almost 3 TIMES as much as OSU????...WTH?

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

Rob — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:06:01 -0000

Uh, The SEC plays, dominates, and owns the ACC....ask Mark Richt.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

Rob — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:04:43 -0000

Florida lost because UF as usual when the bowl game isn't worth a crap THEY DON'T SHOW UP....Florida has been and ALWAYS be "pretty"....as in not tough and giving a crap unless its for all the marbles....just look at the Gainesville culture, its the plastic surgery capital of the world outside of SoCal.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

Rob — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:01:44 -0000

So your 2-1 against Bama, 1-1 against Barn, 0-1 against Tenn, 1-0 against UF, 2-0 against Arky, and 1-0 against Miss....

Arky and Miss had all on-conference losses, UM has 5 total losses against the SEC.....If I remeber correctly 8-10 legit MODERN wins against the SEC....and then a bunch of wins of Vandy and I think Kentucky before the SEC ever existed.....back in the days BEFORE the foward pass.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

Rob — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:54:58 -0000

The SEC plays tougher opponets out of conference than the WAC-10 which of course got OWNED by the MOUNTAIN WEST CONF this past weekend 5-0....

Georgia every year plays GaTech, Florida every year plays FSU, Kentucky ditto with Louisville, USC ditto with Clemson, Arkansas has played Texas on and off, Bama has played OU and a variet of good opponets over the year, same for UT, you silly notion off SEC scheduling of "weak competition" is pathetic, and these so called statistics are fishy, and atypical of a WAC-10 agitprop artist.

1 more thing, bow down to the MWC...bw down.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

Bama_DevilDog — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:09:46 -0000

You can through out stats and out of confernce games because When you have to play week after week of tuff games like the SEC, it doesnt compare to playing a good team and then getting two or three weeks to really prepare for your next true test, like the Big 10 and PAC-10 and all the other cup cake confernces. SEC teams are built to play SEC teams also. That is why Mississippi State is tuff on Auburn even when you don't really think they have a chance. Saying all this nonsense about the SEC, shows that your ignorrant to true college football. You think just because you win one tuff game and beat up on cup cake teams all season makes you a BCS contender than, you dont understand the grind of college football. And your just working the system.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

Tommy_Trojan — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:41:48 -0000

AdamAL:

Your lying, right? You made too much sense to actually be an Alabama fan. You were actually being honest about the assessment of your team. This is clearly not right and something has got to be wrong with this picture.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

U.of S.C.1978 — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:35:12 -0000

One last thought, This the internet. The whole nation has an equal chance at it. SEC fans dominate this site, that is true. Some of you others sort of snidely point that out. Not our fault if we quite rightly recognize our dominance. Apparently, most of the rest of the nation recognizes that as well, and quite wisely choses to remain silent. That leaves just a few dummies for us to argue with.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

U.of S.C.1978 — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:23:25 -0000

NCAA football parity is for real. If you understand that even numbers of schollys for schools,
means that big money/status schools, can no longer sign a lot of top talent, to ride the bench. Then, you must try to understand that traditional powers, are the ones that will take the hit. That being said, strength of conference will, over time, occasion a major shift of where the top talent will go. It is inevitable. You mark my words, and watch over the next ten years as some of the top left coast talent, starts to enroll in the southeast.
Considering strength of schedule, and parity. A traditionally dominant team, in a weaker conference, must eventually start to lose more often. That sucks for you, EVERYBODY else likes it. Stay with me now, traditional Powerhouses, start to look beatable to everybody else, can I hear an Amen from Appalachian State, AMEN!

This argument to the next level.
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Arizona State lost UNLV
Oregon won Purdue
California lost Maryland
Stanford lost TCU
Oregon State won Hawaii
Washington lost Oklahoma
Washington State lost Baylor
Arizona lost New Mexico
USC won OSU
UCLA lost BYU

I don't care who you are, that is not a very impressive day.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

U.of S.C.1978 — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:03:58 -0000

At this point, I'll settle for another Outback bowl and a shot at going 3 and 0 over OSU.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

joeanybody — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:49:03 -0000

I followed, however, I don't think the SEC is as strong this year as it has been in the past. By the numbers, the Big 12 is better by a fraction of a point. Although with Kansas' loss last night to South Florida that might change.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

AdamAL — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:20:14 -0000

It seems to me that the discussion here has gotten off track. It was not about wins and losses or national champs, but just simply straping it on and playing someone tuff. Now I'm a Alabama fan and I think that our scheduling has been crap the last few years. OOC games with OK, CL, FSU aside, we haven't played many. Notice that 2 out of 3 of those teams have a BCS title and I think that bumps the anty up a bit from Virgina and other bottem feeders. Plain and simple, the bottem feeders in the SEC suck just as bad as the bottem feeders in the other BCS Confrences and a teams shouldn't get respect for beating down MISS St. no more than duke or northwestern or baylor or Arizonia. I know because AL has been a bottem feeder for a few years now. 16 yrs since a NC, 9 since an SEC title we've only finished in the top 25 twice this century. I think a better way to guage the balls of a program to play other top teams is to take each team's schedule and count the number of oponents who finished in the top 25 that year. go back as far as you want, this story went back to 1998. Who played the most OOC oponents that finished in the top 25. Whoever tops that list is the bravest team in the country.

Re: Which BCS teams live any one, anywhere, any time?

RazzMaTazz — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:05:14 -0000

I was really shocked, SHOCKED to see this dicussion turn into a conference-strength argument. I've never seen that here before.

I'm impressed that the ACC had 7-out-of-14 of the top fearless teams. I wonder if that has any impact on how poorly the ACC has fared lately. I don't really see how.

I enjoyed seeing UNC stomp Rutgers last night for a bit of ACC pride. However, it makes me worry about my beloved Clemson playing UNC later this season because UNC was VERY impressive. I'm just not sure how good Rutgers is.

Can't wait to see Kansas-USF tonight for some Big-12 vs Big East pride.

I wish McCain and Obama would pledge to enforce more BCS-BCS OOC games.