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Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

Tommy_Trojan — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 00:31:15 -0000

OU_Fan:

If your point is that it is only "a preseason poll", and has nothing to do with the end result, then why shouldn't Western Kentucky be rated #2 in that poll? You know why. It's because they are not anywhere near #2 and won't finish there. The idea of a pre-season poll is to try and predict who might finish in those spots. I'm predicting that Oklahoma will not finish the final poll rated in the Top Two. That's all.

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

1Tomcat — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:06:21 -0000

Zac There is nothing to disagree about- reread my post-like Sgt Friday says Just the facts.
OU Fan said the past is the past+ funny coming from an OU -I have no disagreement
The RRS game is huge-its like a championship
In recent years it seems like the B-12 south has the toughest teams- The 3 way tiebreaker rule is in effect so that the highest ranking team goes to the CCG game=This is OK these are the rules that the coaches agreed to.
Now if you read what I just posted-it straight foward- no complaints
Believe it or not- some programs because of past history and alcolades tend to gain more respectability and higher rankings than others- this is just the way it is-Oklahoma is usually ranked higher than Texas every year-I'm cool with that
Oklahoma is usually favored in the RRS game-I'm cool with that too. Are they overanked-shoot I dunno- maybe in preseason it dosn't matter and towards the end it does. Over the past 5 year period Texas vs OU 3-2
Texas in Bowls 5-0
OU in Bowls 1-4
twice OU was in the CCG game after losing to Texas
During the past 5 years OU played in two MNc games-lost both of them-Texas played in one MNC game and won
These are just facts-nothing more than past history

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

Zac — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:42:03 -0000

OU-Fan, I have to agree with you and disagree with TC. OU/TX is one game and only one game each season. While it's the biggest game between the fans of your respective schools, it does NOT the entire season make. If anything, it validates a given season to one extent or another.

Given OU's overall record, even if your Sooners lost another BCS bowl, following another Big-12 Championship win, it's still only another bowl loss (just a loss) against a slew of Big-12 Championships and one hell-of-an-overall track record. In other words, OU's got nothing to be ashamed of, and I don't think they're over-rated.

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

1Tomcat — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:04:21 -0000

Tyler Tech
I agree BU will turn some heads this year and they have TTech at home
They lost three real close ones last year Mizzu,UConn & TTech had a respectable showing @ Nebraska- Coach Briles in his second year ought to be a good one-they have one of the toughest schedules- I'm looking at 7-5 or 6-6

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

Zac — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:14:13 -0000

I won't lie and say I know how to call this one. I certainly don't expect people to believe I know how to call it. For some reason, USC just feels right. They have this way of getting up for a big game, before being taken by surprise by an arguably lesser foe.

All things being equal, however, you make a compelling argument. USC visits the Shoe with an inexperienced QB. The Buckeye's QB has 2 seasons under his belt. If OSU wins, I don't know that they'll do it pulling away or by coming back from behind. But, I'm willing to bet QB play will have made the difference.

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

OU_Ron — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:02:43 -0000

If that's my only choice...answer= win the Fiesta Bowl...

But...here's my wish list..
Beat the $#%* out of Texas
Win the the Big 12 championship
Play in the BCS NCG
you can't win it if your not in it........

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

grover — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:19:52 -0000

I would not be...

Poll Q for OU fans: would you rather lose the BCS championship game this year, or win the Fiesta bowl? Gimme Tostitos!

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

TheMayor — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:17:15 -0000

Not sure that it means much...but it's nice to be on the top of at least one list.

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

Mr2Bits — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:35:40 -0000

Awww, I love this place. Go Gators

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

OU_Fan — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:10:56 -0000

I still think the expectation of USC is quite high especially with the whole new QB thing and all, but thats just me. I think Ohio State will pull away with the victory.

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

OU_Fan — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:54:58 -0000

True. But once again, why does this matter? Preseason = future, recent OU bowl loses and recent Texas bowl wins that have accumulated in the past = past. Last time I checked, OU is returning some serious talent which leads me to believe that they should be ranked where they are. However, I fully agree with anyone who believes that rankings should not happen until at least week 5.

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

NMLSooner — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:47:43 -0000

Here's an interesting page showing overrated and underrated over the past 20 years. http://preseason.stassen.co...

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

NMLSooner — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:11:04 -0000

That was my point. Short. Term. Memory. Anything past five years ago doesn't count? Stoops is a choke artist because of the last five years? What about five in a row against Texas in this decade! What about OU beating FSU for the NC when FSU was playing in their third consecutive championship game. They were a double digit favorite and considered one of the greatest offensive teams ever.
Oh that was way back at the start of a new millennium, I can barely remember that far back.

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

1Tomcat — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:49:09 -0000

OU is 2 outa 5 in BCS games-thats the point Tommie T was making- Texas is 3-0 in BCS games
won 5 consecutive bowl games and beat OU 3 outa the last 4
Hookem-Horns

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

1Tomcat — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:44:37 -0000

Thanks
BYU vs OU
Arkansas vs Texas A&M
Baylor vs Texas Tech
The Cotton Bowl
Any other games? how many has ole Jerry Jones scheduled in his new stadium?

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

OU_Fan — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:16:40 -0000

You're right. Texas got left out yet once again. Lets not consider the fact that the Big 12 3-way tie breaker rule has been in effect since the creation of the Big 12 conference. I mean after all, Texas absolutely deserved to play for the Big 12 championship even though they lost to Texas Tech! If it wasn't for that dropped interception. Poor Texas........ 2008 was a roller coaster season, and OU, Texas, and Tech all respectively deserved to play for the championship. If anything, Texas Tech deserved to play in the Big 12 championship more so than Texas. But, the Big 12 3-way tie breaker was created for a reason and thus the rule served its purpose. All of the Big 12 coaches seem to be satisfied with the rule after this year's meeting because if not, the rule would have been changed....BOOMER!

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

OU_Fan — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:02:03 -0000

I'm sorry, but title of this thread has the word "pre-season" in it, therefore I am assuming that it means for this upcoming 2009-2010 season. With that said, I find it hard to see how a team with a returning Heisman winning QB, the best TE end in the nation hands down, two running backs whom each rushed for more than 1,000 rushing yards last season, a veteran defensive line, 3 returning stud linebackers, and 2 returning stud cornerbacks would be overrated. Sure, OU has been in a bowl game slump these past 6 years losing 5 out of 6, but that has absolutely nothing to do with this upcoming season. As to Big Game Bob and chokelahoma, according to soonersports.com, "Stoops is 109-24 overall, 72-14 vs. the Big 12, 39-10 vs. the Big 12 South, 31-4 vs. the Big 12 North, 6-1 in the Big 12 title game, 37-10 vs. non-conference opponents, 60-2 at home, 31-11 on the road, 16-11 on neutral fields, 33-12 vs. ranked opponents, 4-6 in bowls, 3-5 in January bowls and 2-5 in BCS games." If this is overrated, I will be perfectly happy if these types of results are produced every decade for the rest of my life.....BOOMER!

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

TheMayor — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:52:06 -0000

I stand corrected we were 5-0, just still hard to believe...

Oregon lost too much on a suspect dfense and our offensive line. We never have your number in Eugene, unless it's an abberation (Sanchez 2007), we are not the Beavers.

Oregon goes 8-3, if they beat either Utah or BSU. Losses to USC and UA...my June prediction.

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

Ben Prather — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:18:38 -0000

I am high on TCU because they are going to be awesome this year. That said, picking MWC teams is a little tricky, take BYU last year for example.

Last year TCU gave Utah a tough game and they probably should have won. That was without anything on offense.

TCU is returning their QB and most of the key players on offense. This will give their offense lots of experience which I think will translate into more productivity.

They had some big losses on defense but they also have a tradition of depth on defense and have never failed to answer questions on defense with anything less than excellence.

So the formula is this:

Great team + offensive experiance - slight if any drop in defense = scary good team.

That and they have a favorable our of conference schedule compared to Utah or BYU.

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

Singularitarian — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:42:12 -0000

I was really excited to see this post (a MWC fan myself), but seeing that it was posted by you who has interest in the MWC kind of deflated my excitement. Don't get me wrong I would love the rankings to end like this (even though my cougars are only 25th) and its totally possible, but I'm interested in hearing why you're so high on TCU (I'm also high on them, but I don't know if my justifications are shared by you).

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

Zac — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:37:30 -0000

Why do I have this feeling you're sitting their with a $hit eating grin saying, "Made ya look"?

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

aVoiceInSC — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:15:05 -0000

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Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

War_Eagle_Atlanta — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:58:57 -0000

For the love of puppies, someone send me a link and I'll do a thread. It's sort of tradition around here...

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

jake — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:57:15 -0000

I truly believe the BE is just as good as the ACC and even the Big10. Unfortunately, the BE performed poorly in OOC but each team (save SU and UL) in that conference are legitimate teams. They often are perceived as a bad conference merely because the quantity of teams in the conference. If you look at the BE bowl performances over the past few years, you will be surprised at how well they've done.

Re: Who is the most overrated team this pre-season?

Tommy_Trojan — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:26:14 -0000

Mr.Mayor:

UCLA did not make it to a bowl game last year. The Pac-10 was 5-0 in bowl games. Are you back to the hard stuff? Best just to stick with the Burgundy. Furthermore, Looks like your gonna have to make "Grey Duck" your official gameday beverage.

What's your take on the Ducks this time around? It looks like it's gonna be our toughest game to me. I was kinda hopin' that Blount would go pro. He's one of the best lookin' backs I've seen in quite awhile. I hope that we can slow him down. If he goes off big on us - that might be the one we lose.