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3 non BCS teams will START in the top 25 (could be any three of Boise State, TCU, Utah or BYU, with the fourth in the ORV with Fresno State)
I think Mark Schlabach's rankings are the closest to what I would expect at the start.
At least 2 will end in the top 14, thought one may have started unranked.
An undefeated Utah, TCU or BYU would be flirting wiht #2 if they are the only undefeated team next year and the MWC wins 2/3 of their OOC games again. If Boise State starts in the top 15 they would be added to that list. With one loss they would be in a BCS bowl unless a WAC or C-USA team goes undefeated, beating at least one top 25 team in the process.
In short, a team from outside the big 6 will get a BCS Berth.
There's going to be all this Mumbo Jumbo until the season starts. There are so many teams that are going to do well. Of course I'm hoping the SC does well, because I am an alum. I think that MISS looks pretty darn good. Here is my personal top 5:
Texas
Florida
USC
Oklahoma
Bama
We'll always have an arguement until there is a playoff. So let's talk after the 5th game of the season...
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Not saying the rebels are a joke, but i think that may be a little too high
Utah at #8 is a little high to start next year. Once the dust settles Utah should be between #15 and #20.
If the Rebels are able to continue to play the way they ended this last season, it's not too high. The Rebs return 17 starters and one of the nastiest D-lines in college football - and they became dominating in their last 6 games.
I really dont see any teams going undefeated, but if by some miracle a couple or more do, then all the BCS mess will continue as was the case 04,06,07,08 etc etc
right now the USC vs OSU and the UT vsOU games are huge Ole Miss vs Bama as well
Hookem-Horns
Go Frogs
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I find it extremely comical, that a Mississippi team that finished up at 9-4, would somehow be "classified" as Top Five material. Also, Alabama loses their QB and top RB, and with no QB in sight - is placed in the Top Five. This just reeks of the bias that exists within the media. These dipshits really do not have a clue. Can't they even remember what LSU went through just last year? Do they really think it's gonna be any better for Alabama?
I'm not tryin' to bag out any of these three teams. But, Top Five is a quantum leap. For all that matter, why is an Oregon State team that finished at 9-4 (and has just about everybody coming back), not ranked in the Top Five? You know why? Because they really don't belong there. And really, neither does Alabama or Mississippi, who have never proven that they do. Virginia Tech, maybe, but I really doubt that. They have at least been a consitant ten game winner for several seasons now. And, as far as Mississippi having a good defensive line, so what? They better have a whole lot more than that if they intend to finish in the Top Five.
It's true that Ole Miss didn't have any success under your boy Ed Orgeron, but this year's team didn't look anything like O's once they got rolling. Ole Miss returns nearly all the offense including Jevan Snead (who should be the second best QB in the SEC next year), and nearly all the defense. 17 returning starters in all.
Any of the teams in anyone's top 5 can certainly implode, including Florida. USC is probably most likely to end the season where they started after they beat up on the Pac10 and another Rose Bowl snoozer - with one close loss to Stanford, Oregon State, or some other 30 point dog, of course. The SEC teams are less likely to make it out alive, and the Big12 may be a little easier with Texas Tech taking a big step back.
The bottom line is that preseason polls are pretty much complete bunk and the only reason people publish them for the yak factor.
Here we go. Dontcha remember me all up in Bleed_Crimson's culo all year long? What happened at the end? Was I not correct in my assumption that Alabama was not far enough along to belong in such select company? Make the argument all you like. One decent year does not make Mississippi into a perennial "powerhouse" football program. You'll no longer be able to sneak up on anybody next year. I watched Mississippi play many games last year. They were a fine team. I made alot of money on the Rebs last year. But, next year is the litmus test. Let's see how they roll when everything "gets real". I'm not saying they will fall apart either. I'm saying that 3-4 losses is probably realistic and a very fine season. Our Boy from Bama really thought they were goin' unbeaten. Man, I'm sure glad that Florida and Utah took him to school. Mississippi is doing great. But, it's still a long way to the top. I still do not consider that Texas Tech is anything like an elite program either. In fact, I racked some pretty good cheese on that collapse against the Rebs. That was not too hard to see. Nevertheless, when you can beat some Top Ten teams consistantly, then you have arrived. Alabama was not able to do that last year. You'll get your shot next year.
What you got coming back is a team that lost four games, three of which were to some teams that were just good (Wake Forest, South Carolina and Vanderbilt), and gave up more than 20 points in 8 of 13 games - playing in the "offensively challenged" SEC conference. That's what you got coming back.
No, what we got coming back is a team that was about 19 points away from being in this year's national title. What we got coming back is a team that only won one game when have 2+ turnovers, and undefeated when having one or less. What we got is a team that had a complete mental and athletic turnaround after going winless in the SEC in 2007, and whose best record the past few years under Orgeron was winning only 4 games.
What we got is a team that pitched two shutouts, and who went on a winning streak that outscored its opponents overall 222-75 on that winning streak. Nah... offensively challenged? Don't think so. But i'm sorry if everyone can't be as great as the almighty USC Trojans. Maybe thats why you won a national ti.... oh wait, nevermind.
That's funny. I deliberately left out that the four losses were by only nineteen points. Looks like you know your team. Four more scores and you would have been unbeaten. I was kinda amazed when I saw it myself. I do see where your right there with my team though. Try losing only seven games in the last six years, none by over one score, and then we'll talk. Other than that - Mississippi had one hell of a year.
You sure like to bash Orgeron - but he got you all of your players. Now, he probably isn't the worlds greatest head coach - but he sure is one hell of a recruiter. The real bad part is that he is now at Tennessee. Let's see if Mississippi continues to find the kinda talent that "that dumbaz Ed" was able to come up with.
I didn't say anything about you being "intellectually deficient". My statement had to do with past tense, "Dontcha remember me all up in Bleed_Crimson's culo all year long"? And yet you turned it into this: "I can't see into the future no more than you can". But, if you not "intellectually deficient", then that's cool with me. Glad that your not.
Ark,Tenn,AU,Miss St are all rebuilding LSU ?? I dunno couldnt beat Ark then whuped G Tech- The Bama vs Ole Miss ought to be a great one again and yall's QB ought to be better
Good Luck
Not too upset about Sanchez at all. Mitch Mustain is the better QB. You better hope like hell that Houston Nutt never has to look over at the opposing sideline - and see Mitch Mustain standing there.
Looks like your schedule got a little tougher this year, with some harder games away from the Coliseum. This last year was the window for SoCal, but if they can get steady QB play from Mustain they will still make some noise.
He knows that he doesn't need anymore of the QB's doing it after only starting for one year. We have Mitch Mustain, Aaron Corp and Matt Barkley here. We really don't need Sanchez, but we don't want the precedent set, that underclassmen QB's should leave the program early. RB's are a whole different story.
Maybe a squeak.
The rest sounds about right, but we need something to talk about other than uniforms until September...
If Jevan Snead isn't quite as good as Colt McCoy I'm ok with that. Colt McCoy is really, really good.
However, rumors about Big 12 defenses were true. They simply..... don't exist. Though I give props to Oklahoma's great defensive standing against Florida. Wow.
And by the way... put a little pressure on that Big 12 QB with an SEC D-Line, and they'll be flustered and rattled all game. We did Snead a favor, we're getting him ready for them NFL lines...
I thought the B-12 did purty good in the Bowls 4-3, Texas won and thats all really that matters- you see unlike SEC fans we dont like other teams, just because they belong to the same conference. The SEC myth was exposed this season, long as yall play each other, yall can clain to be the best-ya right.
I didnt see a Tex vs Bama or a Texas vs Fla or a Tex vs Ole Miss game.
I saw Texas play a tough team with a tough defense OSU-close game and Texas won against a top ten team, who's only loses were against top ten teams. Given the parity that exist, really there is no one dominate team, but alot of really good ones than beat just about anybody. Look yall beat TTech-I knew yall would same goes for Fla vs OU- doesnt mean that the SEC rules-whatever- give me a freaking break- Texas beat Arkansas 52-10 OK That same Ark team that beat LSU, that same team that almost beat Bama like yall.
conference comparision arguements are really kinda stupid-especially if its with an SEC fan- football does exist outside the SEC- Fla beat OU big deal so did we- Hookem-Horns
5 consecutive bowl wins
8 consecutive 10+ win seasons
832 wins #2 NCAA all time
Texas Longhorns the real #1 B-12 team
Actually.. I was just referring to the Big 12-SEC matchups... should've stated that beforehand.
Agreed, that iz, unless demz unafomz iz modled by da chear-leadahz...in da rain!
Unfortunately, I see Florida winning another SECC and playing for MNC.
It should be a fun year!
USC and UT... gads, they're a mystery wrapped in an enigma. Will Garcia be good (maybe)? Can Kiffen engineer a first-year turnaround(no)? There've been a lot of coaching changes. I have a hard time imagining Vandy not falling apart at some point in the season, but this may be their year to step forward.
And, deservedly so. Just remember; it's the final poll that counts, not the pre-season-lets-see-how-good-a-psychic-I-am poll.
I'm gonna go with Feldman from ESPN. That's pretty much how I'da ranked 'em. Just bring the title back to the SEC...who ever it is...lol.
Geaux Tigers
Geaux SEC
Alabama will not be Top 15 by the end of the year.
Mark it down. You heard it here first.
Ole Miss will be Top 25, but will not get the same benefit of the doubt after losses in the eyes of the pollsters next year.
Bama will have McElroy at QB not JPW and can only improve IMHO
Any of the teams in anyone's top 5 can certainly implode, including Florida. USC is probably most likely to end the season where they started after they beat up on the Pac10 and another Rose Bowl snoozer -
If USC ends up winning a "Rose Bowl snoozer" as you say......wouldn't that make them National Champions??
The Rose Bowl will still be played Jan 1st, then the BCS National Championship game will be played in the Rose Bowl on Jan 7th. Confusing, I know.
What now?
GO GATORS!!
I predict another 10 win year, another dissappointing trip to Jacksonville, and a lot of great looking women at tailgate parties.
GO DAWGS!!
Go Gators!!!
although many here would love to see us play those hillbillies again, we don't exactly miss 'em all that much, there were about enough fights each time these two teams played to fill out 10 years worth of ufc fight cards
as for 2005, we had rose bowl written all over our team, after the debacle that was michael vick, many here are claiming the miami loss as marcus paying his brother's dogfighting debt, several boosters supposedly stopped giving money after the vicksburg defeat, so to speak, the florida st acc cg just sucked, we made it close in the end, but we shoulda had either 1 loss or gone all the way, hands down
whats more dissappointing, isfor the second time, notre dame "earned" a bcs bid, while we got snubbed, first in 2000 (michael vick's second year) and 2005
VTmechE, you bring up some interesting points here, some of which I've not heard, or of which I'm unaware.
WVU AD, Ed Pastilong: Trust me; I've had some issues with him, but he was never in favor of ending the VA Tech/WVU rivalry. At least, not from what I've heard. As I understand it, Frank Beamer put a stop to it, actually requested it, and that was based upon the way WVU fans were allegedly treating his teams. While I agree, games against VA Tech were not guarantied wins, they were tough, hard fought, and usually close. The Black Diamond trophy was one of those things for both teams to aspire to winning, and in fact, had been a recruiting point.
MD offering more money? I suppose that wouldn't surprise me; this business being what it is, is all about money. Odd thing: WVU didn't play MD this past season & won't be playing them next season. I think they resume play in 2010, the same year WVU plays FSU in the 1st of a home/home series with the Seminoles. So, WVU playing 2 teams in the ACC isn't an issue; it certainly hasn't been in the past.
I honestly don't know what the truth is. I have good friends in WV, who to a certain extent are "close" to Ed Pastilong. So, from time to time I get caught up on some of the behind-the-scenes gossip. Sadly, that doesn't mean it's entirely accurate. What ever the truth is, there is one sad fact we as fans have to live with: We don't get a choice. We have to put up with what ever decisions are made by the Admin's of our respective schools. Hopefully, they'll find it within themselves to consider the fans' wishes, mend those fences which need it, and return the rivalry to what it once was. Till then, all we can do is talk about it...& dream.
Just remember; in the past 3 seasons, there have been only 3 undefeated teams, and only 2 of them turned out to be legitimate. Last season there were only 2 1-loss teams in the Top-10. One of them went to the NC game, but a 2-loss team won it. This past season, there were lots of 8 & 9 win teams and lots of notable 1-loss teams. While it's arguable that there are a number of 8 & 9 win teams which could win 10 or more games next year, it's just as arguable that every team that finished with only one loss this past year, could just as easily finish with 2 losses next year. We can make some well educated guesses based upon existing fact, but we really won't know until it's all said and done.
So, when's the next game? Anybody up for scheduling a few on the early side...say 1st weekend in June?
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look folks there aint nothing like Texas vs Oklahoma
I'm sure my Okie buddies would agree- it just dont get no better than this
Hookem-Horns
BTW, send Kevin a e-mail, you might be surprised...a thread might pop up....be safe and remember I owe you a Thunder ticket when you get home....
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I feel for you and the Utes. That was a perfect example of why we need a playoff. You guy's were scary good..
In the end we went undefeated, scored the biggest win in the 100 year history of the program, and got national attention that is likely to remain as long as we can keep up the 10+ wins per season. Nothing to feel bad for.
Feel for the BCS, they are the ones getting the media beat down...
They lost their starter at Center. They lost their starter at Left Tackle. They lost their starter at Quarterback.
All of them were Juniors or Senior, multiple year starters.
Did you see what happened to Alabama against Spread Offenses? Did you see what happened to Alabama when they lost their Left Tackle?
I just don't see it. I really don't.
As for our chances...I'll just remain quietly optimistic. Our offensive line needs a Center to step up, because right now, our starter is going with a Green non-contact jersey in Spring Drills. This creates an inability to truly develop continuity & cohesiveness.
As a result, the DL looks to be other-worldly. Which is why seeing the OL struggle & the DL excel is something that gives me cause for concern during LSU's Spring Practice.
We just don't know how much stock to put in those two crucial positions because of that one injury. The OL was outstanding last year. The DL was sub-par. That one issue in Spring Drills is something that leaves a lot of question marks heading into Fall Camp.
As for linebacking, The Chief's got us covered there. Secondary is going to be vastly improved.
On offense, at tailback, we again return the deepest, most talented and experienced depth chart in the conference. We do have a hole at FB, but I'm thinking that our philosophy this year is going to reduce our use of that position, to a large degree.
Wide Receiver will be improved, greatly. Having said that, we return a 1st Team All-SEC Wideout in Brandon LaFell. What's more important than that is that we'll be vastly improved at quarterback. We'll return the deepest, most experienced two deep there, as well. On top of that, we'll introduce Russell Shepard to the SEC, and the nation.
I'm happy with where we are, but I'd like to see the Center take some live action snaps and stop going against the sleds & in individual drills. It will tell us a great deal about how our season goes. If he steps up, we'll be great. If the DL is actually legit, we'll be even greater.
BUT, Saban seems to be very happy with the unit during spring practice, and our freshman class with Fluker hasn't even arrived yet.
obviously, it won't be as good as it was last year, but i don't see it being a problem for us.
Greg McElroy is looking pretty good. like i've been saying, i think we'll definitely see more INTs next year, but i think more big plays too.
but our defense is the reason for all of the top 5 hype.
our defense might be the best in the SEC next season.
OL -
WR +
HB +
QB =
TE +
LB +
CB +
S -
DL +
but i mean, really, GMac is a wild card. he could come in and be better or worse. there's no telling. but he certainly won't be as bad as yall's QBs last year. this guy has been in the program for a WHILE. whenever he came in last year, he was verry solid. im sure you saw that TD pass against Auburn right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kerm7fp_960
we'll wait and see.
i think the alabama/lsu game will be just as good as it was last year.
if there is anyone overranked EVERY YEAR its the trojans. usc plays some of the weakest teams in college football but then they gripe when they don't get to play in the National championship. the reason you never play in it is because you never beat any tough teams and don't deserve it. beat a team from the sec or big 12 and prove that your the team that you THINK you are.
Their problem has been losing to lesser conference opponents.
USC would gladly play teams from the SEC or Big 12. Just brecause they aren't afraid of you. Scheduling teams like OSU and VT and Nebraska, Colorado(when they were good), BYU, Auburn,etc. I believe your programs don't want to play us. Also USC has defeated the SEC teams that it has played in the pc era. So get your facts straight. One last thing if USC would have played LSU in the championship game(which they should have) it would have been a great game with USC taking care of another SEC team.